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Rasmussen: Virginia And North Carolina Looking Close For November
In a further indication of just how closely contested this Fall's campaign could be, a new round of Rasmussen polls in Virginia and North Carolina show that the elections for even these Republican base states are running close:
North Carolina
McCain (R) 48%, Obama (D) 45%
McCain (R) 43%, Clinton (D) 40%Virginia
McCain (R) 47%, Obama (D) 44%
McCain (R) 47%, Clinton (D) 41%
North Carolina hasn't voted Democratic since Jimmy Carter's win in 1976, while Virginia hasn't gone Dem since the 1964 Lyndon Johnson landslide.
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Obama can absolutely win Virginia - I'm less sure about North Carolina, but if he can make McCain play defense there, all the better.
May 12, 2008 8:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
He can win in NC too. There are still a lot of voters who didn't participate in the primary who will vote in the general election. And if he gets a fairly good turnout from his new voter registration drive, he can seal the deal in NC.
May 12, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
There is no doubt in my mind Virginia will go Democratic for the first time since 1964. Gov. Mark Warner did much of the original groundwork. Barack Obama has reinforced what Mark Warner began, adding more constituencies. Obama's VP choice should ensure victory in Virginia.
But Obama can win in North Carolina also.
Comparing the 2000 and 2004 returns in North Carolina with the number of new registrants in North Carolina in 2007 and 2008 is instructive.
In 2000, Bush beat Gore by *373,471* votes, with Bush getting 1,631,163 and Gore, 1,257,692. (Nader was not on the ballot in NC in 2000.)
In 2004, Bush beat Kerry by *435,317* votes, with Bush getting 1,961,166 and Kerry, 1,525,849. (The Democrat beat the Republican for the Governorship by roughly the same margin on the same day, 427,822)
The North Carolina Board of Elections said that the total new registered voters in the state since January 2007 is about *522,000*, of which 25% were Republican.
You can safely assume that Obama is bringing about 400,000 new voters to the race in North Carolina. This is about he needs to win. Given that North Carolinians have a recent record of rejecting woeful Republicans candidates, Obama may win in North Carolina with some to spare.
May 12, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are there any blue states turning purple?
May 12, 2008 8:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm less optimistic than das about Virginia. My hopes were dashed to bits in 2004 here.
May 12, 2008 9:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't be...he really can win here. Turnout in my (very Democratic) city was approaching Webb's Senate turnout for the primary, and BHO carried with well over 60%.
We have Mark Warner on the ballot for Senate to run with him. Mark is wildly popular, still maintaining 70% approval ratings, and we estimate that he might personally bring as high as a 4% bump.
A lot of us were crushed in 2004 when Kerry, despite being within 10, pulled out early from VA. I don't see that happening this year- BHO is better funded and much more organized, he has Dean as chair with his 50 state philosophy, and Kaine would very much like to deliver VA for his friend.
May 12, 2008 9:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
And he's 100 times the candidate that Kerry was...
May 12, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Kerry campaign never put any significant resources into Virginia. Probably not a bad strategic decision, since they probably wouldn't have won here anyway, but it was still disappointing. If we're starting out this close, and there's a real campaign in VA (which it looks like there will be), we have a good shot this time.
May 12, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Considering the states involved and the traditional Rasmussen "tilt" toward GOP candidates in their results, three point leads for McCain in Virginia and North Carolina don't suggest how "closely contested the November election could be." They suggest a Democratic landslide.
May 12, 2008 9:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Woah, does Hillary have a white problem in Virginia??!! OMG!!!
Both polls totally blow her white voter claim. Apparently the people of North Carolina and Virginia aren't as racist as she would like.
May 12, 2008 9:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, too many well-educated professionals in those states. She better look elsewhere.
May 12, 2008 9:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Group pushing Clinton as VP choice secretly
tied to her campaign
By Margaret Talev McClatchy Newspapers
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008
WASHINGTON — A group called VoteBoth has been leading the charge for Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama to team up on the Democratic ticket.
But the people behind it come from just one of those camps — Clinton's — and one of their goals may be keeping Clinton's White House prospects alive.
The group's founder, Adam Parkhomenko, until recently worked as an assistant to Patti Solis Doyle, who was Clinton's campaign manager until February. Parkhomenko in 2003 founded the Draft Hillary for President Committee.
VoteBoth's spokesman is Sam Arora. He's a law school student who in recent years worked for Clinton and for former Democratic National Committee chairman Terry McAuliffe, Clinton's presidential campaign chairman.
VoteBoth's Facebook page lists three others as administrators, all with Clinton connections.
One is a Richmond-based Democratic technology consultant, who was quoted in a New York Times story about the Iowa Democratic Party's 2006 Jefferson-Jackson dinner, where he was passing out "Hillary for President" stickers. Another appears online in a photo with Hillary Clinton and others at a summer leadership program from 2006.
A third is a history professor and campaign contributor whom Clinton named earlier this year in a press release of prominent Virginians to endorse her. wrote When VoteBoth
On Friday, when word went out that Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., didn't see Clinton as Obama's pick for a running mate, VoteBoth released a statement offering respect for Kennedy. But it added, "We think that the millions of Democrats who have voted for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have something to say, too. Why stop at having a nominee who has the support of 51 percent of Democrats when we could have a 'Dream Team' ticket that has won 100 percent?"
VoteBoth first filed with the Federal Election Commission on April 8, two weeks before the Pennsylvania primary that Clinton won and that was considered a crucial window for her comeback. The group's original mission promoted the idea of Clinton as the nominee, with Obama as her running mate.
On May 1, days after the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's latest divisive remarks and Obama's renouncement of his former pastor, VoteBoth amended its mission. It now would support a joint ticket in either order, so long as Clinton's name was on the ballot.
Last week, as Obama's strong showing made him all but certain to clinch the nomination, VoteBoth leaders began putting themselves in the spotlight, sending regular press releases, posting blogs and appearing in interviews.
Parkhomenko wrote a widely circulated piece on The Huffington Post on Tuesday as voters went to the polls in North Carolina and Indiana primaries. "VoteBoth does not aim to pick who leads the ticket," he said. He wrote of friends who "believe in Barack as strongly as I believe in Hillary" and wanting to be inclusive "as a matter of fairness, practicality, experience and hope."
On Friday, when word went out that Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., didn't see Clinton as Obama's pick for a running mate, VoteBoth released a statement offering respect for Kennedy. But it added, "We think that the millions of Democrats who have voted for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have something to say, too. Why stop at having a nominee who has the support of 51 percent of Democrats when we could have a 'Dream Team' ticket that has won 100 percent?"
On Friday, Parkhomenko said through a spokesman that his decision to change the mission came after talking to an Obama supporter. He also said he gave neither the Clinton nor Obama campaigns a heads-up about his group.
In an interview Friday, Arora said VoteBoth is not coordinated with Clinton's campaign, and is "just a bunch of us volunteering our time because we think this is a good idea." Despite the lopsided Clinton connections, he said it isn't just about supporting Clinton but about bringing together the rivals' historic turnout and fund-raising machines and constituencies.
"There's been a lot of talk about a unity ticket and we think that's where the conversation should be," said Arora, choosing a word — conversation — that Clinton used to frame her campaign appearances. "If we've been able to help the discussion forward, that's what we're focused on."
"If Barack Obama is the nominee and he takes Senator Clinton as his vice president, you've got a ticket that's already won 100 percent of the Democratic vote, that's turned out a record number of Democratic voters and that has shattered fundraising records. A unity ticket is the way Democrats win in November."
Obama's campaign declined comment on VoteBoth. The Clinton campaign did not respond to a request for comment.
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May 12, 2008 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just goes to show how well the old GOP playbook of terrorism and racism is working. I hope they continue doing the same crap until November. Keep up the good work, McCain, you clueless idiot.
May 12, 2008 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Five and a half farging months out someone is paying to poll in red states?
file this under: WTF.
May 12, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Obama picks Jim Webb as his running mate, he'll lock up Virginia. That would be a good choice for many other reasons, as well, including Webb's strong "natioanl security" cred and appeal to independents and some Republicans.
May 12, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Voter turnout will determine the end results. If conservatives discouraged by McCain stay home and Obama backers show up the way they did in the primaries- he will win.
Infact, this is the dillemma McCain faces. Will he pander to the extreme right and risk loosing the more moderate base? Or the other way around.
Voter registration drive is a good start for Obama.
May 12, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's going to be a landslide victory for Barack in November, I have NO doubt!
May 12, 2008 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have no doubt that VA and NC will be inplay come November, but I think that adding Jim Webb to the ticket in order to get votes in VA is a big mistake. Nothing against Webb, but being at the bottom of the ticket will carry no weight in VA. Same as it was in 2004 for Edwards in NC.
Obama will be competitive in NC and VA regardless of who he picks as his runningmate -- unless he picks Clinton of course.
May 12, 2008 12:30 PM | Reply | Permalink