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Rahm: Obama Is "Presumptive Nominee." Rahm Flack: That's Not News!
Rahm Emanuel said today that Obama is the "presumptive nominee." Sounds like news, no?
Not according to Rahm's spokesperson. Ben Smith gets the following from Rahm flack Sarah Feinberg:
Easy. Everyone is getting a little over their ski tips. It must be a slow news day. All Rahm said was that Sen. Obama is now the front-runner, which by and large means, because of the calendar, he is the presumptive nominee, at this point. He was stating the obvious.
Don't know about this. Rahm also said that "Hillary can't win." For a party leader like Rahm to declare the race effectively over seems like news to us.
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Screw Rahm and Hillary and the rest of the DLC. You are the past. We are the future.
May 9, 2008 12:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's new "seal of the President already in his own mind" is visible at this idiot thinks he's already the President.
The Democrats have almost nominated a certifiable poop-eating loonie!
Hoo ha! They are the future... of insanity!
Obama is probably walking around with a crown on his head right now!
Kneel, suckers!
June 21, 2008 10:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Which translates: Drop out Hill, or we're going to cut you off at the knees.
May 9, 2008 12:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seems like good news to me. Even the DLC is waving the white flag.
Yes we can? Yes we did!
May 9, 2008 12:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, he's probably getting some heavy-duty blowback from the Clinton campaign, so his spokesperson had to dial it back somewhat. But he said what he said, and it is indeed news. Perhaps a little cue to the supers that it's OK to come out of hiding now?? ;)
May 9, 2008 12:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Roy Orbison song for Clinton.
I know. I posted this elsewhere. I just like the song.
May 9, 2008 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Feinberg added:
May 9, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why is everyone so afraid of stating the obvious? Are they afraid of political retribution? When are they going to wake up and finally realize that this is Obama's party.
May 9, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
it will be all his when the disenfranchised Clinton supporters
exit the party.
May 9, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Screw this, the Democratic party needs an F'n exorcist, nothing less will get rid of Hillary. She'll keep playing the race card and do everything she can to make Obama unelectable in November.
Disapointing.
May 9, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ruh Roh, right now Shrillary's campaign is scouring Rahm's past for any tarnished Reverends...hey, was that a middle finger we saw when Rahm scratched the side of his face when he mentioned Shrill's name????
Just how will Wolfson concoct something to respond to this!
May 9, 2008 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wolfson is too busy trying to write his book about the cluster fuck that is the Hillary campaign to create any new lies.
Did anyone watch last nights Hardball? Wolfson was on saying how Puerto Rico's vote should be a big part of Hillary's popular vote victory even though Peurto Rico can't vote in the General Election. Is there any level Wolfson won't sink to?
May 9, 2008 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your grapes are so sour I can taste them from here.
May 9, 2008 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, certainly all the Operation Chaos Limbaugh dittoheads will leave the party again, that's for sure. No one is being disenfranchised, Present. That's a ridiculous and intellectually dishonest statement and you know it.
May 9, 2008 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sure Rahm.
Nevermind the rising gas prices, lets go skiing.
Iraq, fund them for another 100 years.
There is your leadership.
May 9, 2008 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Goatlife, now that the Indiana primary is over, where is Hillary on the gas tax holiday? I haven't heard a peep out of her about it since Tuesday. I guess the gas tax holiday pander was just that - now she's on to WV and Kentucky, where she feels the "hard working White Americans" dog-whistle is a better fit. But hey, she's got integrity and honesty, huh?
May 9, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
She is waiting on Obama to lead like I am. He can't follow her lead anymore, he has to step up with a solution.
He has nothing to offer.
May 9, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Leadership:
You mean like building a national organization from scratch which raised over 1.5 million donors, won 32 states, more pledge delegates, more votes and the Democratic nomination against the biggest political machine ever?
That kind of leadership?
What about coming out against the Iraq War when it wasn't popular?
That kind of leadership?
What about stating that the Gas Tax holiday was a pander when it would've been politically expedient to offer voters 'something for nothing'.
That kind of leadership?
What about being willing to meet with our enemies as well as our friends, even though Democrats and Republicans scoffed at the idea?
That kind of leadership?
What about taking the stance of attacking Al Qaeda in Pakistan with or without Pakistani permission, even though some Democrats scoffed at the idea?
That kind of leadership?
Gotalife, the leadership and substance is there. Whether you choose to see it is a different matter.
We can extend a hand in friendship and ask for your support and vote. Whether you choose to accept it is entirely up to you.
You choices are effectively Obama (D) McCain (R) Barr (L) and Nader (G)
If you value Democratic values and positions, the choice is easy.
May 9, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you kidding me? She was supposedly SOOOOO passionate about the gas tax holiday. What a crock of bullshit - why should he lead on the gas tax holiday issue being that HE WAS AGAINST IT? You just honestly can't see her failings, can you? She pandered big-time on that issue and it didn't matter - she won Indiana by less than 1% (probably due more to Operation Chaos than to anything else) and she has dropped the Gas Tax Holiday like a hot potato because she has better panders on the horizon.
May 9, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dead on GL - all Obama does is give complicated answers to all these issues - and like you - it makes my head spin too! I want a simple message that tells me what I want to hear - is that to much to ask for from the dems (democrats).
People need to stop drinking the Cool Aid and realize that Hillary is gonna win this thing - in big states like Kentucky (blue grass!) and West Virginia (Coal!). Further proof that Obama cannot win diverse states with hard working americans who believe strongly in states rights - something that Gotalife and I are totally about - right?
May 9, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, but I just have to say this:
You are brilliant, gotalifefan.
May 10, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly Gotalife - it's outrageous that Rahm would say this. Having more delegates and having won more states and more popular votes does not make you the front runner! Being a leader does!
I wish Obama would lead for a change - instead of just getting people to vote for him - disgusting.
May 9, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hilarious.
May 12, 2008 6:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great. Now he'll feel compelled to "clarify" that of course Clinton can still win. He never meant otherwise.
May 9, 2008 12:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
And, in fact, here's the rest of the statement from M.A.:
2. The "presumptive" quote is only accurate if you ignore the several sentences proceeding this half sentence and the several minutes of conversation that followed it. I'd call it selective quoting. Congressman Emanuel also stated about 90 seconds after this that he thought Senator clinton can still win the nomination and he stands by that.
What did I tell you??
May 9, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know, "getting a little over their ski tips" sounds just a bit elitist to me...
May 9, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree.
May 9, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree - and I'm suspicious of anyone who'd ever get on a ski. Gotalife would probably agree that it just seems a little "foofy" (ha!).
May 9, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Skiing is elitist?
How about digging in supermarket dumpsters for food, is that elitist?
I've done both.
May 9, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Speaking of elitist: Has it struck anyone else that Obama's pronunciation of "formidable," as in "She's a very forMIDable candidate" reeks of latte?
I'm surprised it hasn't become a campaign issue by now. "He used that pronunciation for 30 years after he knew that most hard-working white Americans say 'FORmidable.'"
May 9, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oops forgot "/snark"
May 9, 2008 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
The media needs to start treating Hillary like they did Huckabee and Romney at the end of their campaign runs. IGNORE THEM
This constant paying attention to her now that Obama has gotten more delegates, both in elected and super (ABC), the popular vote and 32 (almost 33 lacking 1 pct in Indiana) out of 47 States.
Why are they even following her anymore? It's over. They treat her as though she a front runner and TIED or something. SHES NOT!
May 9, 2008 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because the media loves this shit. They're no better than National Inquirer "journalists" - gossipy, shallow, brain-dead and lacking in substance. It's really sad that many citizens have to get their "facts" and learn about the issues from these assholes.
May 9, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, MSNBC is saying she is playing the race card.
Might as well, Obama did, so it is fair game.
Remember the speech after wrightgate.
Lets talk about race.
May 9, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
It'a a topic we'd love to talk about...
...in a debate with the Republican nominee.
Wasting valuable days arguing in a fight that is effectively over is wasted time we can't get back later.
Obama is doing the right thing simply ignoring the other Democratic candidates.
May 9, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tell it to the chicken.
May 9, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Totally GL - it's not like Obama has weathered the Rightgate thing and dealt with it in a straighforward or even remotely honest manner. I think it's our duty to repeatedly, and as simply as possible, hammer in guilt by association. Hillary has managed to keep her nose super clean over the years - there's no dodgy stuff in her past - that baggage has been checked 1000x! TIme to go with a winner dems (democrats!).
May 9, 2008 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly Gotalife - like you - I didn't even bother to listen to any of Obama's long speeches (no time - busy typing these things!). The guy is so hateful!
I for one thing the best thing we can do is to keep hammering a simple message over and over - even in really poorly worded posts - keeping it at a 4th grade reading level (tops!) - and eventually everyone will catch on.
Following your lead!
May 9, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is definitely news. I think Presumptive Nominee and Front Runner are two totally different things. Obama has been the Front Runner for a long time now. Declaring him the Presumptive Nominee is quite different, and coming from practically anyone, I think it's news worthy.
May 9, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is the 'frontrunner', but Hillary 'can't win'. Hmmm, what is the implication then?
I know - the race is finally down to Obama and Gravel!
May 9, 2008 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I say, Give a little love to Rahm here. His work as DCCC leader 2 years ago one of the reasons we have a Dem majority in the house.
[I disagree with him about Dean's 50 state strategy, but Rahm's brains, hustle, and guts were part of the 2006 puzzle. It wasn't all just voters being pissed about Iraq, Foley, etc. Someone had to pick candidates and convince them to run, etc.]
May 9, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I find myself pretty much in agreement with you.
In addition, Rahm might be suffering from PTSD after being on the receiving end of Bill's purple-faced, unhinged explosions. (Which doesn't excuse his profanity-laced tirades either.) Which might explain the effort to dial back on what he did, which again, was simply to state the obvious. Somehow, I expect he may not be answering his phone today.
I don't know if anyone here has noticed, but his brother has posted a number of strongly pro-Obama pieces on HuffPost.
May 9, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow...Bill's a little unglued here. I know the transcript was posted on an earlier thread, but seeing Bill in action is another thing. He really needs to be put in a room somewhere and not allowed to speak.
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=1017
May 9, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rahm is such an elitist.
May 9, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
To say that Hillary can't win hardly seems like news on TPM, considering how many times it has been said.
Interesting news today from the Daily Gallup. Shows Hillary's strength. Meanwhile Stephanopoulos has been talking Obama/Clinton ticket. Sounds like a good idea to me, considering how many Democrats say they won't vote for Obama. He'll have time to soften them up by November, barring more revelations. But certainly some percentage of them still won't vote for him. Having her on the ticket seems a very good idea.
May 9, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with you. She would make a very promising part of the administration. There's no doubt that there are many positives (and some negatives) to an Obama / Clinton ticket.
I know that many Obama supporters poo poo the idea, but more than anything, I want a Democrat in the White House, a Democratic Majority in the House and Senate and I want our party to choose the next 5 Supreme Court Justices.
If Hillary puts us over the top, I'm all for JFK Inspiration and LBJ Process in an Obama/Clinton ticket.
I think their joint constituencies supersede ANYTHING that the GOP can throw at them.
May 9, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with the unifying sentiment but don't think it will succeed. Better a break with the past. No joint ticket.
May 9, 2008 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
The choice facing voters in November will be Obama or McCain. No Democrat or progressive or liberal voter would think twice about it - Obama gets their votes. "Moderates" would have to suffer a brain spasm to not vote for Obama. So, I don't see what it is that adding another Senator from the eastern half of the country brings to the ticket.
If done correctly, the Democratic campaign strategists (as big a joke as that is) will sit down and figure out where they can get enough electoral college votes to win in November. Then, if they come up short, they pick a VP candidate who can expand that vote total. In other words, give the ticket a much better chance in a couple of states.
May 9, 2008 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I understand the need for Clinton supporters to vent and share their disappointment with their candidate's inability to secure the nomination. It wasn't wrested from her hands, rather, many errors on her team's part doomed her back in January. It's been over for some time.
Her latest racist arguments for electibility over Obama astonish me. Senator Clinton has too little faith in the American people she wanted to serve.
It's time for all Americans, no matter what one's affiliation, to pat ourselves on the back: we are going to elect the first African American to the Presidency in November. Lucky for us,he happens to be a member of the Democratic Party. But does anyone doubt, I don't, that if Colin Powell had ran in 2000 he would be president now? Or if Bush's policies hadn't been such a disaster that Condi Rice would have had a chance this year?
I live in rural America, in Texas. Even in my small town people are excited that a black man will be the nominee even if they don't agree with his policies, even if they're a Republican and will vote for John McCain. On the days I wear my Obama button, at least one person will approach me and say he or she is a "recovering" Republican and plans to vote for Obama. Bob Dylan's song, The Times They Are A-Changing" was some forty years too early.
I am also a woman of middle age and before my death, I do hope to vote for a woman for President. It just wasn't meant to be this woman.
I hope the superdelegates end this quickly, like ripping a bandaid off a wound, or Sen. Clinton will self-destruct. I'm sure many times in her life, people discounted her because she was a woman, but this is not one of those times. She does her gender and her supporters no good by playing the shrill shrew who jumps up and down and says, "it's not fair. I was supposed to win!"
May 9, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Added to which, she's made the so-called Nuclear Option of bypasing the will of the electorate (assuming it could ever have been digestible to the party) even more untenable by articulating her case for electability in starkly racist terms. Even if the uncommitted superdelegates were inclined before this to hand her the nomination on such specious grounds, they won't touch it with a bargepole now lest they come off like a political lynch mob.
May 10, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
What do you think of Richardson for VP?
May 9, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's a good choice. I have, perhaps, a better one..
What about Bob Graham of Florida?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Graham
He's former Gov, former Sen. former Presidential candidate and well-liked in FL.
May 9, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like Richardson plenty. Put the southwest in play. As Clyburn said in his National Journal interview today, "Any one of those states -- Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona -- that had been carried by Kerry would have delivered the presidency."
May 9, 2008 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
How about Inouye as VP
May 9, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
By the way Inouye voted against going to Iraq!
May 9, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
i'm falling in love with gotalifefan.
welcome to TPM.
May 9, 2008 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
ted kennedy just put the kibosh on a obama/clinton ticket. check it out at politico---i don't have a link unfortunately.
between kennedy & pelosi both shooting the "unity" ticket idea, i don't think it has a snowball chance in hell of happening. and besides i don't think obama wants her on the ticket reports indicate that his wife is strongly against it as well.
May 9, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gotalifefan,
ROFLMAO!!! You are so cracking me up.
Thanks!
:)
May 9, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
In re: PRESUMPTION
It's a little like how Princess Elizabeth was George VI's "heir presumptive" rather than "heir apparent" because it was *possible* that her middle-aged mother might yet give birth to a boy.
But nobody was thinking up boys' names for the next King of England. And nobody's designing Hillary's inaugural-ball gown.
May 9, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sen Graham is a very interesting option - one I haven't heard before. Gravitas, intelligence commitee, opposed to Iraq war, FL. Hmmmm.
May 9, 2008 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was all for a unity ticket... until Hillary did her best to make it a nearly unworkable option.
I mean, there's triangulation and there's adopting right-wing talking points wholesale. A lot of the Clinton Administration's second-term confusion of those two strategies cost them credibility with the Democratic base back in 1996-2000.
Her positions on Iran and Israel, her C-in-C threshold and "hard-working Americans - white Americans" comments, and the recent flap over the gas tax holiday are weakening her case for a unity ticket. I'd rather see someone on the ticket who hasn't yet demonstrated this kind of lack of sensibility: someone like Graham, Kaine, Sebelius, or Webb (the latter despite his blue-dog stances; I mean, I agree with HRC that there are plenty of voters who aren't part of the progressive wing, it's just that I don't think those people will vote for *her* in the general).
May 11, 2008 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Graham is a loon. Not a chance in hell. Plus, he's a tired old white man.
Granholm would be a GREAT choice - if she hadn't been born a Canadian, thereby making it impossible for her to succeed Obama in the event of a catastrophe.
Richardson is a nice nod to the Hispanic vote.
Sibelius is another (more remote) possibility.
May 11, 2008 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Michelle Obama’s Writings Display Disturbing Racism
Americans must ask: ‘Do we really want this woman in the White House’?
By Pat Shannan
Just what kind of “change” is Barack Obama offering and just how much influence has his wife, Michelle had over him in their married life the past two decades? It appears that Michelle LaVaughn Robinson Obama does not look into a crowd of Obama supporters and see Americans. She sees black people and white people, eternally conflicted with one another.
In her senior thesis at Princeton University, Michelle LaVaughn, the future wife of the Democratic presidential candidate, stated that America was a nation founded on “crime and hatred.” Moreover, she stated that whites in America were “ineradicably racist.”
The 1985 thesis, entitled Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community, was written under her maiden name, Michelle LaVaughn. Michelle Obama writes that the path she chose by attending Princeton would likely lead to her “further integration and/or assimilation into a white cultural and social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society, never becoming a full participant.”
Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America, but emphatically elevates black over white in her world. As first lady, would she insist the White House be painted black? That’s been a standard joke in this venue since the civil rights movement of the 1960s, but this next ominous quote from her thesis suggests that she would in fact urge her husband toward just such an extreme position.
“There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost.”
She seems to justify those feelings with what she claims to see on the other side of the issue: “Predominantly white universities like Princeton are socially and academically designed to cater to the needs of the white students, comprising the bulk of their enrollments.”
Michelle added in her thesis that to “whites at Princeton, it often seems as if, to them, [I] will always be black first.” However, it was reported by a fellow black classmate, “if those ‘whites at Princeton ‘ really saw Michelle as one who always would ‘be black first,’ it seems that she gave them that impression.”
Michelle Obama’s poll of black alumni concludes that other black former students at Princeton do not share her obsession with blackness. But rather than celebrate, she is horrified that black alumni identify with our common American culture more than they value the color of their skins.
“I hoped that these findings would help me conclude that despite the high degree of identification with whites as a result of the educational and occupational path that black Princeton alumni follow, the alumni would still maintain a certain level of identification with the black community. However, these findings do not support this possibility,” she wrote.
Most black alumni ignored her racist questionnaire. Only 89 students responded, out of 400 who were asked for input.
The thesis provides a trove of Mrs. Obama’s thoughts and world view seen through a race-based prism. For a potential first lady, this is a very divisive view that would do untold damage to race relations in this country in a Barack Hussein Obama administration.
During this presidential election year in which the term “transparency” has been frequently bandied about, candidates have buried a number of potentially revealing documents and papers. In Hillary Rodham Clinton’s case, there’s been a clamoring for tax records, White House memos and other material the candidate’s team has chosen to keep from release.
The 96-page, 1985 Princeton thesis, restricted from release by the school’s Mudd Library, has also been the subject of recent scrutiny. Commentator Jonah Goldberg remarked on National Review Online, “A
reader in the know informs me that Michelle Obama’s thesis is unavailable until Nov. 5, 2008, at the Princeton library. I wonder why.”
“Why a restricted thesis?” asked Pastor Louis Lapides on his website,
Thinking Outside the Blog. “Is the concern based on what’s in the thesis? Will Michelle Obama appear to be too black for white America or not black enough for black America?”
Will an Obama administration really offer constructive “change” or just an intellectually refined racism?
May 14, 2008 11:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
You again?
May 21, 2008 9:38 PM | Reply | Permalink