The EPIC-MRA poll was taken before the RFK comment.

And the "dramatically different results between the two reputable firms" is exactly why this isn't worth the, um, bandwidth it's printed on.

I hope to GOD McCain is stupid enough to pick Romney!

Oh, and according to pollster, McCain and Obama are tied in MI.

Let's go over this again...

We have five months left until the election. Once Shrillary is out, everything will shift to him.

Once she is out, states like California, New York, Massachusetts, (possibly) Ohio, (possibly PA), etc. will go to him! Right now there are TWO Democratic candidates...in November, there will be ONE candidate.

Just because Obama lost California in the primary does NOT mean he will lose it in November!

The fact that some people still need to be told this (present company excluded...I'm talking about her supporters) shows just how low America's IQ has dropped over the last eight years.

The EPIC-MRA poll has Hillary bringing an astonishing 11 points into Obama's column, putting him well ahead of McCain in this must-win state.

So, basically, a truthier headline to this item would have been, "Why Eric Kleefeld thinks Hillary should be Obama's Veep."

Interesting. But more interesting will be seeing polls taken once it is heads up between Obama and McCain. I can't help thinking these numbers are skewed by the fact that Hillary remains in the race.

Eric never fails to give us his daily dose of Shrillary spin.

Give it up!

This is a stupid poll.

Obama can take Michigan alone, other polls have shown this. Michigan is not a problem for Obama.

Put Romney on the R ticket and see how they do in the Deep South. Florida and Texas included.

Too soon, means nothing at this point. I think these polls are silly.

"... But Hillary As VP Might Help..."

How do you know what will happen in November?

However, what will help is for this morbid trainwreck to end -- After MT and ID have voted -- Obama will be the nominee and it is up to the SD's and for the Democratic Party leadership to get behind the nominee -- up until that moment the Democrats will continue to be deemed as weak -- hence, I believe, as shown by these polls.

After Tuesday this has to end. JMHO.

I am not woebegone about our chances in MI, but I do think that both of these polls get an important truth about Michigan - the democratic party brand there is badly tarnished right now. For better or worse, Gov Granholm and Sens Levin and Stabenow have not been able to reverse Michigan's rapidly declining fortunes. Add to this that Kwame Kilpatrick keeps re-appearing in the news (never for good reasons) and you have a state very well poised to buck the democratic wave sweeping the rest of the nation. Moreover, John McCain is a very strong candidate to ride that wave in MI. An important portion of the electorate in MI is made up of Vietnam vets who greatly admire McCain as a former POW. Obama will need to spend a great deal of time and effort on MI, because we need to keep it in our column this time around and it is not a foregone conclusion that it will stay there.

All I can say is he'd better pick her for his VP. There's a whole lot of mess coming, and he's going to have to pull the Democrats together in a hurry. The Jeremiah Wright mess isn't over yet by any means. A quick glance at the recent video of all those black parishioners at Obama's church waving their arms and shouting approval as the guest preacher dredges up slavery and blames white America tells you what kind of divisiveness to expect this Fall.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Mocking_Hillary_at_Trinity.html

f you want to know what the current polls tell us about November, just go back and look at where Hillary stood in the National Polls, compared to Obama, last December. How did those poll projections work out. Exactly. Current polls about what will happen in November are about as credible as some Fairy Tale about a Tuzla airport sniper attack.

Of course, they want President Clinton.

Count their votes, democracy haters.

Another example of how we are making it easy for the Terrorists to claim that we are in Iraq as "Crusaders".

Someone please ask Senator Bush McCain why we are still doing such stupid things as this:

Iraqis claim Marines are pushing Christianity in Fallujah

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/38820.html

Excerpt:

FALLUJAH, Iraq — At the western entrance to the Iraqi city of Fallujah Tuesday, Muamar Anad handed his residence badge to the U.S. Marines guarding the city. They checked to be sure that he was a city resident, and when they were done, Anad said, a Marine slipped a coin out of his pocket and put it in his hand.

Out of fear, he accepted it, Anad said. When he was inside the city, the college student said, he looked at one side of the coin. "Where will you spend eternity?" it asked.

He flipped it over, and on the other side it read, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:16."

"They are trying to convert us to Christianity," said Anad, a Sunni Muslim like most residents of this city in Anbar province. At home, he told his story, and his relatives echoed their disapproval: They'd been given the coins, too, he said.

Pol Pot 44%, Mandela 40% (see footnote 1)
Mandela/Thatcher 51%, Pol Pot/Mugabe 44%

(1) Please note that some Thatcher supporters may have voted for Pol Pot in protest in the initial match-up, in protest of the perceived unfair treatment of their candidate during the Mandela vs. Thatcher primary contest.

Obama Fares Well With Key Voting Blocs The AP reports Obama "is competing strongly against" McCain "for women, Catholics and other groups that have shunned him in the Democratic primaries but will be pivotal in this fall's presidential race, early polling shows." Besides "women and Catholics, these include the elderly, the less educated and suburbanites, leading" primary rival Hillary Clinton "to argue she is her party's stronger candidate." But polls "this month show" Obama "leading McCain among women, running even among Catholics and suburbanites and trailing with people over age 65."

The Wall Street Journal reports for the "first time since the presidential election of 1988, the observant white Catholic vote might be up for grabs this November." The shift "may be bad news for" McCain, "but "it also poses a challenge for Sen. Barack Obama in some critical swing states where a majority of Catholic voters supported Sen. Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primaries."

And in a New York Times op-ed, Democratic pollster Mark Mellman says, "Democrats running for president have been losing white, non-college-educated voters since before Mr. Obama was elected to the Illinois legislature." Al Gore "lost them by 17 percentage points while winning the national popular vote," and John Kerry "lost them by 23 points and the country by fewer than two and a half points." By comparison, Obama "is only two percentage points behind John McCain among these voters in the latest New York Times/CBS News poll."

from U.S. News.com

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_080529.htm

Why again are we parsing random polls months before the election, before either candidate has a running mate and before the Democratic party has coalesced around its nominee?

It seems Andrew Golis's tut-tutting admonition that people should quit posting diaries/comments arguing against Clinton could equally apply to his fellow officemates who daily post the latest irrelevant polls and whispered sweet-nothings from Harold Ickes.

No direct correlation of my spoof candidates to the actual candidates intended. My point is that these polls are poop at this stage of the game.

Lifting his right leg, and crossing the fingers on left hand might help, too. Who cares?

Of course, at this stage in 1984, Mondale was beating Reagan; in Summer 1988, Dukakis was beating Bush. Those predictions turned out REAL well.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Wait! Wait! Wait!

Go over to Politico...

Ben (who tends to be in the bag for Hillary) says the Survey USA poll has Obama only winning 68% of the African American vote in their breakdown of voting groups.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

68%? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Try 95%!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my gosh this polling is a joke! What is the sprad when Obama takes 90 to 95 percent of the African American vote in MICHIGAN? I'm going to say Obama up by 6 at least.

Good lord you have to read the fine print on this crap!

For what the situation looked like 4 years ago, Check out this map from Ben Smith at Politico to see what the electoral map looked like, according to polls, on May 28, 2004. The prediction for the electoral college was Kerry 327, Bush 211.

I don't care if every poll known to man shows McCain winning Michigan. He won't.

The Dems will win Michigan without breaking a sweat, regardless of candidate. Bank it.

And Romney is not popular in Michigan, regardless of what a lot of pundits who've never lived there tell you.

COLORADO (Rassmussen):

McCain 47
Clinton 44

McCain 42
Obama 48

Quit worrying about states we've got in the bag and start working on the one's we can steal.

Wow, that's a terrible pair of polls for McCain, because right now, especially in FL and MI, it's pretty much his best case scenario. Once Obama actually campaigns there, gets his operation up to full speed, McCain would have to choose Gordie Howe as his running mate to win MI.

In Virginia, McC is ahead of Obama by an average 1.3 points. If Hillary were the nominee, he would be ahead by an average of 10.

A bit early to tell, anyway.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/virginia.html

But, hey, Murdoch's the guy who brought us headlines like "HEADLESS BODY IN TOPLESS BAR." Who knows what the tabloid version of progressive journalism might yield?

Until the nomination process it's just not even an interesting measurement.

Hillary is not the VP.
There is no way that you invite a woman who brought up assasination when asked why she was still in race to be your VP... even if she says it was 'unintentional'.

The Clintons have been lying, distorting and manipulating every day. It sickens me to see them use the american people the way they do. Senator Obama has run on bringing change to Washington... that doesn't happen with the Clintons in tow...

Thanks, but NO THANKS!