Obama Wins North Carolina, Networks Project
CNN, NBC, and Fox all call the state for Obama.
Late Update: The race was called virtually at the moment the polls closed, suggesting the likelihood of a decisive victory for Obama. Adding to that likelihood, MSNBC exit polls show that he won 36% of the white vote in this southern state.
Late Update: First-time voters helped fuel Obama's victory: According to exits, the 18 percent in the state who said it was their first time voting in a primary favored Obama overwhelmingly, 68%-26%.
Late Update: Obama chief strategist David Axelrod, speaking to reporters just now, pushed back on the claim that Obama is struggling with whites by pointing out that he won among white voters under 65.
Late Update: Obama advisers believe that tonight's results make it more likely that May 20th will be the campaign's D-Day.
Well, duh!
May 6, 2008 7:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
And not just a win, but a blowout apparently!
CNN exit polls say
That suggests about a 13% win for Obama!
May 6, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow!
I have a great big smile.
May 6, 2008 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, wonder if the actual votes will follow the exit polls? It is something great if Obama took the women's vote!
May 6, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you, North Carolina!!!!!
May 6, 2008 7:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Game Changing!
May 6, 2008 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
The tide is turning. ;)
May 6, 2008 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tide?
No, this is more like an ocean current.
May 6, 2008 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, it is more like Tsunami.
God, did I woke up to an "excellent news for ....Obama !!!"
May 6, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
According to Clinton, North Carolina was a game changer.....
Does that mean game over?
May 6, 2008 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Game over, man... game over!
Guess gotalife is soon to have no life whatsoever.
May 6, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's always telemarketing for nolife.
May 6, 2008 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
yeaaa!
May 6, 2008 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
boo-ya!
May 6, 2008 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Woohoo! I did my part in Charlotte for that win. :)
May 6, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good on you, as the Aussies say, elvigy!
Now, I hope my work in Indiana bears some good results, too.
BTW, I traveled a lot of southern Indiana, and in this small town near the KY border, right in the one intersection mid-village was a pretty large homemade sign that announced, "WELCOME, MICHELLE OBAMA"........ I've taken that sign as a good omen, as the deep south of Indiana was supposed to be a lock for Clinton.
May 6, 2008 7:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
anyone know the margin?
May 6, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does anyone know if gotnolife's parents are brother & sister?
Just wondering.
May 6, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gotnolife, gotalife or goatlife?
May 6, 2008 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not sure. They were just two goats that passed in the night.
Meheheheh.
May 6, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
My apologies to you dear goatlife...
I call gotalife, gotnolife (for obvious reasons).
May 6, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
gotnolife.
May 6, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I always prefered goatlove myself.
May 6, 2008 7:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
You mean - personally? [she asked, edging over just a little further...]
May 6, 2008 8:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meheheheh.
May 6, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!!! FOR HILLARY!!!!
May 6, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
idiotic never disappoints!
May 6, 2008 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
He received 92% of the African-American vote, but they only account for about 21% of the demographic in NC, I think, so he needed to win a lot of white votes as well. And it looks like he did just that.
A bad night for Hillary, considering how many more delegates he'll get from this evening.
May 6, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
AA were 33% of the voters.
May 6, 2008 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
only 33%? are you sure?
May 6, 2008 7:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
"21% of the demographic"
UH. NO.
They represent 33% or slightly more in N.C.
May 6, 2008 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
21.6%. I'm talking about population--not registered voters.
May 6, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mmm, not quite. That's as a total of population. As a percentage of the Democratic primary voters, that would be about double. So, around 40% of the Democratic voters. Give or take.
May 6, 2008 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thats the same thing that was mentioned on CNN. The only way the race in NC could be called so quickly is if BO got a decent white vote percentage.
May 6, 2008 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
North Carolina does not count. Senator Obama was on the ballot there.
May 6, 2008 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damn you to hell!
May 6, 2008 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, that did make me laugh. :)
May 6, 2008 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
O o Excellent!
May 6, 2008 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was rich!!!
May 6, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
HILLMENTUM!
May 6, 2008 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looking at the CNN exit poll - Indiana is Clinton 52 Obama 48. So looking like a 3-5 point spread overall depending on the demographics of the exit poll
May 6, 2008 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
and in the NC exit poll - 55 Obama to 45 Clinton - so a 9-11 point spread.
May 6, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
This can't be!!!!! Gotalife Predicted a Hillary sweep!!!!!
May 6, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
The first numbers in show Clinton leading in NC.
Methinks they called it too early and should call Indiana for Clinton.
May 6, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sad, really.
May 6, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
(pat on head)
Back to bed with you, Mister!
May 6, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
They should just stop counting the votes now and give everything to Hillary because our resident GOP troll says so.
May 6, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude = they called it.
May 6, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
You ARE brain dead.
May 6, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
You guys realize nolife is just a troll right? I bet he doesn't even support Hillary.
He's probably a Republican trying to bait people and stir up resentment within Democrats. He could even be some loser paid to troll. Most likely of all, he's unemployed and trolling you people between porn sessions.
May 6, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Go to littlegreenfootballs.com and read a some posts. Lot of Nolife there.
Some of the most inbred, lead paint chip eating, brain damaged alcoholics and knuckle draggers to ever to crawl out from under a rock and onto keyboard. They make Archie Bunker seem sophisticated by comparison.
May 6, 2008 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Methinks thou doth protest too much!
May 6, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary's also has been leading in Indiana since the polls closed like NC. But as you see the networks have projected Senator Obama winner in NC. The networks didn't project Hillary Clinton winner in Indiana, so you know what that means. Its a barn yard burning close race in Indiana. :D
No landslide victory, it's OVER HILLARY!!!! The Celestial choir is singing!
May 6, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey gotnolife... this is you, tomorrow, after the superdels start to pour in for Obama.
May 6, 2008 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
When all is said and done, you'll be off in your prediction regarding North Carolina by nearly 25%, you know...
Oops?!
May 6, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
they've counted maybe one county.
As someone brilliant (me) has been saying for a while, NC will be a Barack Blowout.
May 6, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
May 6, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude, promise me you won't take the cowardly troll's way out when Clinton eventually withdraws from the race. Promise me you'll stick around, calling us racists and party-dividers, maintaining the talking points even in the face of utter defeat.
May 6, 2008 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Methinks you should take 2 ambien and call me in the morning.
May 6, 2008 8:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
NC can no longer count. It is a small state.
Small states do not count. Only big ones do.
I wonder how many shots of Crown gotalife's already had this evening.
May 6, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
NC is bigger than NJ. Is NJ a small state now, too? Do we un-count it? ;-)
May 6, 2008 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where is goatboy, who predicted a Hillary win in N.C.?
May 6, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dammit! He posted just before me. Nice to see his idiocy continue, though.
May 6, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
BARACK IS BACK BABY
May 6, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
He jumped 3% today on the In-Trade graph.
May 6, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I noticed Hillary's drop this morning, even before any actual voting took place.
May 6, 2008 7:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Once again CNN (wishful thinking?) has the percentages backward on their Web site: Clinton 73, Obama 23!
May 6, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wolf Blitzer literally cannot help himself. It's patlological.
May 6, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I had a separate post on this, but this is where the action is. Directly after calling NC for Obama, MSNBC began to talk about what would happen if Hillary wrested the nomination from him. Would African American voters feel disenfranchised enough to stay away from the polls in the Fall? What's up with this bullshit?
Great victory though!
May 6, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hmmm. With that late update we have:
92% of 34% + 36% of, say, the rest (64%)
That gives us a spread of 55%-45% for Obama.
May 6, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
And it gets even worse for Clinton...
CNN exit polls suggest 14%!
May 6, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is great news... for Obama!
NC was the "game changer" wasn't it? How so?
May 6, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh. My. God. Scarborough. In the tank for Obama.
May 6, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know I was shocked, shocked I tell you. Lately it has gotten so bad I usually mute when he starts blathering. Maybe I will jsut mute Buchanon and whichever stooge HRC sends to yap about her win in IN.
Maybe there is hope for Morning Joe after all.
May 6, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lyin' Lisa Caputo is back on. Time to hit the mute!
May 6, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I couldn't believe it! I wonder if he hit his head or something.
May 6, 2008 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
On the other hand Tim Russert and Tweety are making my ears bleed. It is positive for Obama but they are just such idiots. If it wasn't for Keith, Rachel & Chuck Todd I would switch to CNN.
May 6, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rachael kicks ass.
May 6, 2008 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
My exact MSNBC trifecta! Where has Chuck Todd been all my life? And Rachel rocks. They better give her her own show, those dorks.
May 6, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
DirkVA writes:
"Once again CNN (wishful thinking?) has the percentages backward on their Web site: Clinton 73, Obama 23!"
It's not only CNN.
MSNBC called OBAMA as a win in N. Carolina, yet their numbers were also backwards!
Same thing on the front page of TPM.
Whassup?
May 6, 2008 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
They aren't backwards. They're getting updated. It's not 46 Obama, 49 Clinton. Yet they're still calling it for him, so these numbers will change dramatically.
May 6, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nothing's up. Nothing unusual anyway. The C73/O23 figure was for only the first few hundred votes officially reported. It's not so unusual that the first results do not resemble the final numbers at all.
May 6, 2008 7:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
YES YES YES..I STAYED AWAY FROM THIS RACE FOR A FEW WEEKS NOW..HILLARY NAUSEATED ME. BUT I"M BACK AND SO IS BARACK.
GOOD NEWS. I SAY 20 points.
May 6, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Glad you're back.
May 6, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome Back kash79.
May 6, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks guys. BTW seriously, I can't watch a mini-sec sound bite of Hillary anymore. She was on letterman last night and I flipped the channel that moment I saw her face.
Good to know she is fade way sooner than later. NC confirms it.
May 6, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have the same reaction. Bush, Cheney or Hillary comes on TV, I change the channel. I can't stand to look at her or hear the sound of her voice.
May 6, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Totally agree. They're all like nails on a chalkboard to me.
May 6, 2008 8:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
You must have moral fiber that is revolted by evil.
May 6, 2008 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
BLOWOUT!
CNN exit polls say
This suggests about a 14% win for Obama!
Decisive! Can't wait for those superdels to start rolling in...
(This, incidentally, is about 25% better than predicted by gotalie. Oops!)
May 6, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton Obama Undecided
Female 42% 54% 3%
really? wow!
May 6, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Didn't gotnolife say that woman would win by double digits in N.C.?
LOL.
May 6, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
He really meant to say she'd lose by double digits. So the prediction was spot on.
May 6, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why yes. Yes (s)he did.
We should perhaps remind him/her of this in what little future (s)he has left, I suppose.
May 6, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
SD gap is now 14. John King on CNN is using his big map to show us all why they can't call Indiana yet. Obama lovin' territory is still being counted and sloooooooowly reported.
John and his big map....no wonder Dana loves him.
May 6, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
O my god - this is turning into a great night!
May 6, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you counting the SD he just picked up?
http://projects.newsobserver.com/under_the_dome/council_backs_obama
May 6, 2008 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
14 points is too high, I'd say 9 or 10 points.
May 6, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was talking about the current Super Delegate gap. Obama got another North Carolina Super Del this afternoon.
May 6, 2008 7:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interestingly, he won among white voters under 30, and tied among white voters between 30 and 44. White voters 5 and up is where she won.
May 6, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
They are letting white 5 year olds vote in NC?
May 6, 2008 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know why not. Here in GA we let them get married....
(Alright, just joking, folks....)
May 6, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I heard here in deep south, you guys marry your own cousins" - Northern questioner
"Well, you wouldn' want me ta marry a complete stranger no would ya?" - Southern respondent
j/k
May 6, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
My apologies to you dear goatlife...
I call gotalife, gotnolife (for obvious reasons).
May 6, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary nauseates and disgusts me. What an utter disappointment and fraud she's become. I really don't know what to believe. Perhaps she was always this way and I just never saw it. But my gawd, she embarrasses this woman and feminist to no end.
May 6, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I liked Bill so much before all this happened...it's sad really. He was everything that she isn't - the key word there is was, wow has he changed. Anything for a win now.
May 6, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Moi aussi.
The 3 balls, the boilermakers, the guns - I'm not that woman and I don't want to be that woman and I don't think it's necessary to be that woman to succeed.
I think she's set women back 50 years with those stunts.
May 6, 2008 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
not to mention "pansy."
May 6, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I couldn't agree more.
I work in a male-dominated field, as an undergrad I was the only female in all of my upper level classes and there wasn't a single female professor around - I feel like I've paid my dues as a woman and have worked very hard to get where I am and to be taken seriously by my colleagues. Watching her pull all of this crap that she's pulled - riding Bill's coattails, the whining, the crying, the shrieking, telling people to vote for her because she's a woman - I believe that it has made it harder for all of us women and everytime I see some feminist carrying the Hillary banner, it just makes my blood boil. I'm sorry, but Hillary is the LAST woman I want my daughter to see as a role model.
Sorry for the rant....
May 6, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Come on.
No one has done more for the Democrats in North Carolina than Barack Obama.
May 6, 2008 7:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
welcome, Idiotic's calmer sibling.
May 6, 2008 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's over folks. All he needed to do was win NC.
Cheap tickers on sale for Arkansas. Woo....Woo.....
May 6, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now. Where do the delegates from from? Add +1 to Obama for the night's total because another super went fort Obama tonight. NC is twice the size of IN, and Bubbuh went to every hollar and swamp to no avail.
May 6, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fact: Hillary Clinton has LOST.
There is no way she can make up what she lost this evening in the remaining contests. It's over. Finished. Stick a fork in her, she's all done.
May 6, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do we have an estimated gap in NC yet?
May 6, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
If he gets 57% in NC it erases all of Clinton's gains in PA, both in delegates and popular vote.
May 6, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Never underestimate the Hillzombie. She can keep her campaign going till January. 2025.
May 6, 2008 7:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where is GOTALIFE? is he/she on life support?
May 6, 2008 7:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Goatshite is busy trying to close the deal with his inflatable Hillary. He is trying to smooth talk her out of her Pandersuit.
May 6, 2008 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well it's not easy seeing how she can hold her liquor like an Irish longshoreman... as far as I know.
May 6, 2008 8:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
he's busy at little green footballs or free republic, where he fits right in. he'll be back after he's soaked up all the repug snark he can carry back here to share with us
May 6, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
This may be a reach, or at least a theoretical squeeze-play, but if I were Obama, I'd have to think about threatening a 3rd party run as an independent if he gets the requisite number of delegates but loses the nomination. Clinton could not win if Obama ran as an independent.
I can't even imagine what kind of numbers he would generate in a three-way race, but if it's a remotely viable strategy, Clinton would face two likely outcomes. First, Obama could win, theoretical but plausible. Certainly, he has less of a stake in democratic voters than he does in particular subsets of that vote. Second, he could lose, but completely spoil Clinton's chances by continuing to pull virtually all the black voters and a good number of the small money contributors. I don't see a thrid possibility. My conclusion is that Clinton could not win the presidency if Obama ran independently.
Under this scenarion, Clinton's pre-convention choice would be between (1) losing as a Dem. presidential candidate, or (2) stepping aside, making up with Barry, and winning as Obama's VP.
Does anyone think that Obama has a viable campaign as a third-party candidate? Or that a threat of a third-party run could force Clinton to take the VP slot?
May 6, 2008 7:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
The same gambit could be floated by Clinton to sabotage Obama. Not a good road to go down.
May 6, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think in a three way Obama/HRC/McCain race, all bets are off. Except I can't quite see Hillary winning. Republicans can just vote for the real thing, the candidate of experience is not Hillary, the candidate of change is not Hillary. I don't know who would win such a race, but I'm pretty sure Hillary would come last.
May 6, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
He wouldn't do a third-party run. He's got an eye on the big picture, and he's supportive of the Democratic party (unlike Clinton who is willing to destroy the party).
May 6, 2008 8:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's 64-33 at this point, but that's with 1% counted. It's gonna be big, I think.
May 6, 2008 7:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you, NC!
A round of applause for North Carolina, please.
May 6, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously. They didn't buy the B.S. Not by a longshot.
May 6, 2008 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Poor Bill... he's spent the last week stumpin' down there.
He also did some campaigning for his wife.
May 6, 2008 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's been stumping here since MARCH. He's made more appearances here than in PA or IN. Hillary has made 20 stops here to Barack's 12. Chelsea has been all over the state - probably between 20 and 30 stops? (I don't have figures for her). Bill has made between 50 and 60 stops.
Now who can't "close the deal," hmmm?
May 6, 2008 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCaskill is about to be on msnbc
May 6, 2008 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Indiana still too close to call, and their polls closed earlier. A tie, or close loss even, goes to Obama on this one as he's already ahead.
Looks like it'll be a good night for Team Obama. Some more super-dels should come over tomorra.
May 6, 2008 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rock on NC. Rock on!
May 6, 2008 8:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Goatshite is busy trying to close the deal with his inflatable Hillary doll. He is trying to smooth talk her out of her Pandersuit.
May 6, 2008 8:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Have y'all seen what that disgusting fuck Ickes (was there ever a more apt name?) has said?
Which as the article Josh links to points out, is just about what Karl Rove said awhile back about Obama.
motherfuckers.
May 6, 2008 8:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Josh has been a pretty great ref throughout this thing. I know he's said a few things that, as an Obama supporter, really pissed me off, but at the same time, he's consistently called Hillary on her bullshit.
May 6, 2008 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I had always heard what an a-hole he was but I had never seen him give an interview or anything until I saw him yesterday on MSNBC. I have to say his level of "a-holeness" did not disappoint.
May 6, 2008 8:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am looking at CNN's map of IN. BO got his but kicked in the rural areas 2-1. But in the urban areas, early on, he is kicking HRC testicle.
May 6, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
All three of them?
May 6, 2008 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
just one of them?
May 6, 2008 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Holla!
May 6, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, Holla, back!
May 6, 2008 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
hi Hamsun.
May 6, 2008 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Tena!
May 6, 2008 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
For the Clintons, desperate times call for desperate measures. Pathetic. Nothing admirable about their tired, out-of-date act. The End.
May 6, 2008 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Poblano and Kos show Obama trending better in the counties Hill was supposed to win in Indiana. Indiana is in play.
May 6, 2008 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
My work's firewall blocks the orange satan... any number range the final may work out to from the posts you mention?
May 6, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
CBS calls Indiana for Shill. Poblano thought Hillary +2....We'll see
May 6, 2008 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
to all you susa lovers...take note.
May 6, 2008 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love Claire McCaskell. I have the female version of a man-crush. She has been such a great supporter of Obama and has had his back when he really needed it. She was one of his first big supporters even when it was a much riskier proposition.
May 6, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Missouri is so lucky to have her. She's just breath of fresh air, one I would not cross!
May 6, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you like her, I would be happy to donate her to your state. I am glad that she is backing Obama, because that is the only thing that she has done right so far. She actually voted for retroactive immunity for telecoms. If that had passed, I would not vote for her in 2012 when she next comes up again. Because it did not pass (at least not yet) she is on probation with me. She is far from a breath of fresh air, however. She is just less bad than the Republican whom she unseated (little as I like Claire McCaskill, Jim Talent was much slimier and more destructive).
May 6, 2008 9:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good he won NC. If he can keep Indy under 6 tis a decent night. Then maybe we can getakinfe and end the oxygen thief troller..nah wishful thinking
May 6, 2008 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
In Hawaii we call a wave "Nalu" pronounced (Nah Loo)
May 6, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Woohoo!
May 6, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
demographic tidbit: Obama is currently carrying my county with 70% of the vote. The county is 78% white, about 14% African-American. it's not "rural" or "blue collar," but it is "white."
and why the f*ck do we care, exactly? dems haven't carried the white vote in the general in a while, anyways. but I still just wanted to point out that Obama is dominating here.
May 6, 2008 8:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. There's a lot of Archie Bunkers out there.
May 6, 2008 8:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's people saying he'll have it locked up for real by May 20th.
May 6, 2008 8:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama won first-time NC primary voters, 62 to 28 percent (that includes Independents and Republicans changing their registration) And the number for R's was 68 to 26--guess Rush's Operation Chaos Dittoheads did not show up. Wonder what the numbers will be in IN.
May 6, 2008 8:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Howard Finemen on MSNBC is writing a new narrative that is closing the books on Sen CLinton.
May 6, 2008 8:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
No other network is calling Indiana....yet
May 6, 2008 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
She'll never give up. She's like the Terminator. Obama will have to crush her in some sort of giant industrial press, or melt her down in a vat of molton steel.
May 6, 2008 8:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL, I hear the terminator music every time I see HRc now.
May 6, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wonderful news. Meanwhile, I predicted a win in IN, so those folks had better come through for me.
May 6, 2008 8:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nah, no one actually thought you were serious ;)
But it looks like it might end up being close!
May 6, 2008 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg,
We don't have to worry about the "Dodo" anymore. do we ?
I am still "counting" on your IN call.
May 6, 2008 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone watching the vaunted "popular vote"? Hillary is currently up 50K votes in IN with 51% reporting, but Obama is ahead by 130K votes in NC with only 14% reporting.
If the trend holds, this is going to make it so much harder for the Clintonites for bullshit excuses to continue this travesty of a primary.
May 6, 2008 8:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looks like Obama will get enough of a spread to get a boatload of extra delegates. Anyone seen an analysis of how delegates might break down in North Carolina?
May 6, 2008 8:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
According to the percentages at the moment (8:45pmEST), at the end of the night Obama's delegate lead will expand by 31 delegates. Hillmentum is going downhill.
May 6, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is important for the supers, too. Obama is the one energizing voters and bringing new people into the process, and that's what the Democratic party, not just for winning in November, but for the future health of the party and all the down-ticket races.
May 6, 2008 8:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Most of the AA vote in IN has not yet been counted, and Chuck Todd admits there exist models where Obama could win.
May 6, 2008 8:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Makes you wonder if Zogby maybe wasn't smoking crack after all... wouldn't that be a hoot if he ended up getting it right!
May 6, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Crushing beat down in NC.... Obama took her to the woodshed
Indiana is still out imo. Northeast Indy is still yet to report......
May 6, 2008 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. The MSM is turning her ship toward the rocks.
May 6, 2008 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
IN Hendricks county not in yet...
He kicked butt in Fayetville...Home of the AA
All American 82nd Airborne!
May 6, 2008 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
IN down to 6pts.
Visions of Missouri's returns dancing in my head...
May 6, 2008 8:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just want to hear what Carville has to say... I used to have respect for that guy in 2004 as a more rational surrogate. Now he just looks like a snarky alien!
May 6, 2008 9:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the Rajin Cajun will say he lost his ball!
May 6, 2008 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Donna Brazille kicked Paul Begalia's ass on CNN and then turned around and kicked the ass of the two Republican commentators (Bill Bennett and ?). Look for this clip tomorrow. She was amazing !!!
May 6, 2008 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I saw it. It was the most entertaining TV I've seen in weeks!
May 6, 2008 9:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
He went all in with a pair of queens...OB had a pair! Guess he didn't have the nuts after the turn or the river.
The above is for those who play poker.
May 6, 2008 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Safe to say NC and its 15 electoral votes are up up for grabs in the presidential election, eh? Yet you never hear about this state. It's always just Ohio and Florida...
May 6, 2008 9:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
My sense is Obama will be erasing many red/blue lines we've been forced to endure. I think he'll continue his 50-state strategy right through to the end.
May 6, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that he will challenge some traditional blue/red assumptions. I don't know if he'll actually change many, but maybe a few.
Let's not forget that once Obama can shift his focus from Hillary, McCain is a lame lame candidate.
May 6, 2008 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
We desperately need to return to an issues campaign. The GOP has no winning agenda items. In this can the healing begin, and there will be healing. People love the smell of a winner, and will want to be on the winning side.
Luckily, Obama has not threatened 70 million people with erasure by nuke, so the blood is not likely to be as bad if he wins. For example.
I am actually breathing easier...
May 6, 2008 9:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like former Gov. Warner said, no more of this "win blue 17 states and hope for a triple bank shot" crap. Time to go on the offensive.
May 6, 2008 9:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's right. A mandate must be earned. The GOP seat turning over in LA cannot be misunderestimated [sic.]. It is the stuff of which landslides are made. This after a whole heal of Wrightness was unleashed. Fart in church, it was.
May 6, 2008 9:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Marioth, I like your style.
May 6, 2008 11:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
22pts with over 1/4 of the vote in. Fuck. She's getting crushed.
May 6, 2008 9:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Speech time.
May 6, 2008 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
"This primary election on Tuesday is a game changer. This is going to make a huge difference in what happens going forward. The entire country -- probably even a lot of the world -- is looking to see what North Carolina decides," - Senator Hillary Clinton.
For once, I agree...
May 6, 2008 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Many of my retiree buddies are going Obama, they got tired of getting screwed. So did many of the families of vets and future vet.
May 6, 2008 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looks like Hill may have loaned her campaign money again:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/06/new-hillary-clinton-loan_n_100492.html
May 6, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
MSNBC now calling Indiana 'too close to call' from 'too early to call'
Missouri anyone....
May 6, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Keep the commentary on cable TV coming folks; don't have cable.
May 6, 2008 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
"This is the time to end it." - Sen Barak Obama
May 6, 2008 9:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
"We will do it by telling the truth"
May 6, 2008 9:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Down to 4 pts in IN, many votes yet to be counted. The media narrative is Good Night, Hillary Clinton. Until IN results are in, we will not know the true level of the ass-beating, but raised welts are a minimum...how am I doing?
May 6, 2008 9:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
tks marioth...Please don't beat that ass too much...too much flatulence from the Clintons for me! That was their gas plan by the way.
May 6, 2008 9:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
IN is by NO MEANS a done deal. He only needs 55% of the remaining vote in his known strongholds to win.
May 6, 2008 9:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Indiana is in play.....Hillary is toast
May 6, 2008 9:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Russert tsk-tsking over his big win and her wimpy yet-to-be-decided contest, his big state v the home of the kkk (my editing)...like a father, "I just don't see how it's going to happen..."
May 6, 2008 9:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Brokow: money money money. Going to be tough to pick up the phone tomorrow morning given THIS REVERSAL OF FORTUNES....
Narrative is shifting as we speak...
May 6, 2008 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's fucked, ain't she?
May 6, 2008 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nine ways from Sunday, which I never understood, but probably rocks set to music.
May 6, 2008 9:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Brokow seems to praise Obama for calling for unity rather than treating his speech as a coronation.
May 6, 2008 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/06/new-hillary-clinton-loan_n_100492.html
May 6, 2008 9:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
And if I may, I much prefer Chuck Todd's calm brutal analysis to Bug-Eyed Butch and his (change you can Xerox) clip-board...yeesh...
May 6, 2008 9:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not until gotalife tells us the truth will i believe it!
May 6, 2008 9:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now comes the panel...Gregory, Maddow (swoon!), Robinson, and Patrick Jockstrap Buggary Buchanan.
An "amazing win" for Obama, turning the tide, doing exactly what he said he would do, look for supers to start moving tomorrow.
I want to write the ballad, "They Made Me Tell Bubbuh His Tab Done Come Due"
May 6, 2008 9:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
By the way, while at Bragg and Benning, I heard that term used in the sense of: "It will never happen."
May 6, 2008 9:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
kawika49...dude where ARE you?
May 6, 2008 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can we get Maddow her own show, please? She's brilliant.
May 6, 2008 10:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously. She and Keith are setting a new bar, and Matthews ain't cutting it.
May 6, 2008 10:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Over 300,000 votes left in Lake County, no count until 11pm EDT
May 6, 2008 10:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
They ordered pizza's. It is hard to count with ballots in one hand and a slice in the other.
May 6, 2008 10:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Harold Ford now tries to sell us Obama/Clinton.
May 6, 2008 10:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm in Hawaii
May 6, 2008 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hawaii, gave up cable to donate to obama...could not afford both!
May 6, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, are you getting all that volcano haze reported?
May 6, 2008 10:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, I live in Hilo; the wet side!
May 6, 2008 10:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did you see this ? polls kept open in IN?
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/05/ins_rokita_keep.html
May 6, 2008 10:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even Pat Buchanan is saying "Really, at this point... what is the point of Hillary continuing?"
May 6, 2008 10:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh God, They are chanting "Yes we will" at the Hillary speech.
May 6, 2008 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
in it to win it. go to hrc.com. i'm from Ill. she's making me ill.
May 6, 2008 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh yeah, growing up in Park Ridge was sooo hard. Anybody remember the movie Sixteen Candles? That is park ridge. I don't doubt she had her own phone line.
May 6, 2008 10:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, where's NC State Dem? You know, the guy with the John Goodman avatar? He was predicting a solid Obama victory in NC, and calming down those of us on the roofs. He should be here basking in the glory too.
Thanks for your sage advice!
May 7, 2008 12:02 AM | Reply | Permalink