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Obama Wins Guam By A Hair, Even Delegate Split Likely
Barack Obama has officially won the Guam caucus, held yesterday local time, by a very narrow margin.
The numbers, with all votes now counted: Obama 2,264 votes, Clinton 2,257 votes, a margin of seven votes for Obama.
With only eight pledged delegates casting half a vote each, it looks like this race will be a wash at two full delegate votes apiece.
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Full of win.
May 3, 2008 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Next stop, Indiana and North Carolina.
But don't just read about it... make those calls today, Obama supporters!
Let the other side spin the news. We've got work to do!
May 3, 2008 8:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mission Accomplished!
GO GUAMA!
May 3, 2008 9:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Full of win.
May 3, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
A win is a win!
May 3, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
"You know, Jessay won Guam in ettyfore and ettyett, so it's not that big of a surprise..."
But in all seriousness, why can't Hillary seal the deal?
May 3, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not quite a wash, since they are not tied.
They get the same number of delegates; that is, Obama is still the leader and she still trails behind by the same difference.
But Obama is a little closer to the magic number (2024). The winner is the first one to get there...
May 3, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not a wash at all, considering that they have elected Obama-supporting superdels on Guam today.
May 3, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
OMG! GotNOlife was wrong. The Queen o' the Clintoids did noy win Guam by 699% thus the math gap still exists . . . dshungu must be sad.
May 3, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hard to believe with over 170,000 people in Guam that only 4500 voted.
Are these actual popular vote numbers or precinct delegate numbers?
May 3, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe a lot of Guamanians don't vote because they don't think their votes matter in US primaries. I think they are more interested in their own general elections. Here are the results of the 2006 General in Guam which might give a more detailed report of the voting habits of Guamanians.
And, maybe some are Republicans.
May 3, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's close, but still a win... just like the rest of America.
Since Guam has the equivalent of 9 electoral votes, what this apparently means is a 1 delegate advantage for Obama.
He won 14 out of 21 districts overall.
May 3, 2008 7:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
+1 is a win.
May 3, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama campaign's biggest success was getting people to vote for Lujan/Paulino. That's +2 superdelegates for Obama, and if Bordallo follows the popular vote, it's a 6-3 delegate swing.
May 3, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you give Clinton Nevada and Texas, which you have, than Obama definitely gets Guam.
May 3, 2008 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's all about the delegates. She got the official victories in both Nevada and Texas but he escaped with the delegates. As such, she continues to lose.
May 3, 2008 7:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm citing precedent. Like it or not, the media has been giving them to Clinton.
May 3, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually Texas isn't as simple as Nevada. Their Texas two-step system gave Clinton the win in the primary and Obama the win in the caucus with Obama winning the overall delegate contest.
May 4, 2008 7:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yep... although I was off on one of the SDs, it appears, so it's only 5-4... but a delegate win is a win, especially since some in the media had made a mistake in giving Clinton two of those SDs, which she just lost today in the election that went along with the caucus.
May 3, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eric, I'm a little confused about Guam's offerings to the convention. According to reports, the four pledged delegates are, indeed, being split between Obama and Clinton, but there were also apparently 5 superdelegates coming out of the election in addition to these 4 pledged delegates.
One report said the concurrent Guam elections for a Party Chairman and Vice Chairman happen to be superdelegate positions. Both these winners are going to support Obama. But what of the other three?
May 3, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
One of the other three supports Obama... and two of them don't.
So that makes Guam 5-4 Obama on superdelegates, or a one delegate gain.
May 3, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
How can Clinton win the White House if she cant win Guam, this reasons many questions on her ability to get elected in the general. Well thats what the Clinton's would say if they won.
May 3, 2008 7:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
No kidding. It'd be all about how he couldn't close the deal with working class islanders and how this definitely shows that he's not electable. People are having doubts about him. Buyers remorse. But now they can brush it away and say it was a caucus, they don't even count in the general, they're all coconut latte sipping, flip-flop wearing, beach dwellers that don't contribute to the economy.
May 3, 2008 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
GotaLife has been strangely silent on Obama's win.
May 3, 2008 8:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
What a horserace!
Big Brown showed his true colors.
Sad about the filly...
Very sad.
May 3, 2008 8:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
please tell me you're talking about the horse race
here's to obama winning the triple crown - US senate, democratic nomination, and general election!
May 3, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
by the way, i don't mean to be politically incorrect here, but could it be a sign that a horse named big brown came in first and the female came in second.
May 3, 2008 8:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
*sorry, should have read "only female in the race"
May 3, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope Hillary won't get euthanized, however.
I don't dislike her that much.
May 3, 2008 9:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Self-"euthanize", may be ? Just saying, you know (God, I hate those last two words)
May 3, 2008 10:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
*AND* that the female had to be put out of her misery.
Now it's time to make those calls into Indiana and North Carolina and put Hillary out of her misery. And ours.
It's the only humane thing to do, really...
May 3, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm thinking May 7th will be judgement day. You will start to see more movement by the SD's.
Can I also just say that I'm really fed up with the MSM. These "pundits" should all just be gagged!!!
May 3, 2008 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
As Wolfson put it: A win is a win.
But why can't Hillary close the deal?
Is this buyer's remorse?
May 3, 2008 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Markkraft hit the nail on the head. The pledged delegates are most likely (although not yet definitely) split 2-2, but Obama picks up at least two super delegates. So it's a good win for him overall.
May 3, 2008 8:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
oh no! Guam doesn't count anymore!
May 3, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wolfson is an ass.
May 3, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gee - Obama still takes the PV and the SDs - despite Hillary's offering a chicken in every pot and a new Toyota PRIUS in every garage!!
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May 3, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I bet this race has kept them occupied for awhile and I'm not surprised they split.
I'm not being snarky - I know what a really small population is like - I bet they enjoyed the hell out of this for weeks.
May 3, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's one of the beautiful things about this election. Every state counts, every vote is precious, and rules matter. Sen Clinton did not spark it, nor is she any longer sustaining it.
Now, very shortly, this wave of We the People is about to impact a broken federal system. Disassembly of the Clintons I consider suitable ante.
Pax,
M.
May 3, 2008 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Speaking about a horserace as omen...
Did anybody notice that Chelsea was at Churchill Downs dressed like the Princess of England?
http://sports.yahoo.com/rah/photo;_ylt=Ao0PgClfeI_VrwH3qxIykeF__rkF?slug=cef045fad1b44bb2a478ec0b3e2f55aa.kentucky_derby_horse_racing_kyd199&prov=ap
Guess when you got money and are "elite" you go to the biggest race of the year, wear a funny hat, and put all you money down on the only filly in the race.
Well guess what?
Second place and two broken ankles.
Clintons! Put that in your superstitious pipe and smoke it!
May 3, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, they killed that poor horse. Nice pastime,that horse racing. Apparently killing an animal on the track warrants nary a mention.
But though I hope Hillary goes the hell away, I don't wish upon her the fate of the poor filly. So there, the parallels end.
Go Big Brown!
May 3, 2008 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
It seems rough to kill a horse like that but it's really for the best. Horses are so massive that injuries to their legs are almost impossible to fix. It's sad.
May 3, 2008 8:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
liberal historian -
you are supposed to dress over the top for the derby, dipshit.
aren't much of a historian, are ya?
May 3, 2008 9:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
"liberal historian" you are a Grade AAA asshole.
First, everybody dresses funny at the Derby. It's tradition.
Second, they euthanized that horse. I suppose you cheered when you heard the news.
Sick, disgusting, mindless little 'bot.
May 3, 2008 9:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
East side...
West side...
All around The Troll!
May 4, 2008 12:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, he was predicted to win in a blow out but won by only 7 votes.
Upset and two more are coming Tuesday:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080503/ap_on_el_pr/obama_working_class_whites;_ylt=AtZBiyX_PwDkqBek_XcwYjsDW7oF
It is all over but your whining.
May 3, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary was ahead by 30% at the start of the presidential race. She has failed miserably.
May 3, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, you're saying that Obama won then?!
And this supposed "blowout" that was supposed to happen in Guam... would it have gotten him any more delegates there?
Answer: No. His supporters did, however, get two superdelegate positions elected today, giving him an overall advantage in Guam of 1 delegate...
... which means that Obama now has more delegates than he did before Pennsylvania!
May 3, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't run away gotachicken.
Back those claims by a fair and honest wager. You won't because your avatar is more important to you than the words you write.
CHIRP!
May 3, 2008 10:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
for those wondering, here's the context:
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/05/saturday_superdelegate_roundup.php#comments
May 3, 2008 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but he's underpredicted a bunch of other primaries.
And he won Guam. Not by much, but it still counts as a win.
Hillary WON Texas and got less return for that.
He's now erased ALL the delegates she won in Pa.
Have a nice evening.
May 3, 2008 10:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay... complete Guam breakdown.
elected delegates
Obama 2
Clinton 2
Superdelegates:
Obama: 3, apparently.
Paulino (endorsed), Lujan (uncommitted, but runningmate Paulino endorsed). Also, either Sen. Benjamin Cruz or attorney Mike Phillips (both Obama supporters) will be named as a superdelegate.
Clinton: 2
Taitano. Bordallo.
So yes... a one delegate advantage for Obama.
May 3, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Guam is the latest example of why caucuses are bad democracy. Around 1.25% of the population does not make a winner nor have any credibility as a reflection of the population's choice.
Matthew
May 3, 2008 8:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep.
"A Territorial Convention made up of all interested voters meets to choose 8 of Guam's 13 delegates to the Democratic National Convention (together representing 4 of Guam's 9 delegate votes at the National Convention). Guam's caucus is conducted like a party-run primary where voters cast secret ballots in their respective precincts. Polls open at 10 a.m and close at 8 p.m. local time (UTC+10 hours). A mandatory 15 percent threshold is required in order for a presidential contender to be allocated National Convention delegates."
May 3, 2008 8:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
More loser talk from the Eight Belles contingent.
May 3, 2008 8:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Matthew, it's not good for babies to be cried upon while so young...
May 3, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hereby denounce and reject Matthew Weaver's avatar pandering with two newborns, especially with all his racist bilge.
May 3, 2008 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where do you get off with your "racist bilge"? Haven't anything more substantive to say when faced with criticism of Obama, and my comment was instead focused on caucuses, not on Obama anyway. It is pathetic to see the ready use of insults and accusations by Obama supporters.
May 3, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's pathetic to think little babies grow up to be racists.
May 4, 2008 12:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
They were run just like primaries except the people were voting directly for the delegates (which technically made it a caucus). The only thing a primary might have changed was the number of spoiled ballots. I suspect the caucus format was a bit more confusing so whoever had the most supporters with reading comprehension problems probably lost some votes.
May 4, 2008 7:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
I demand a recount!
May 3, 2008 8:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Matthew Weaver: It's called a caucus but it was a primary.
May 3, 2008 8:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe you are correct, they actually vote for the presidential nominee on paper ballots.
May 3, 2008 8:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Hillary won it would have been a fine win, a vision of political strategy and precision.
May 3, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
You left out "game changing".
May 3, 2008 10:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The DPG noted a high number of spoiled ballots in Dededo".
Recount!
May 3, 2008 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Give it up Eight Belles.
You lost!
May 3, 2008 8:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's get this straight: An animal breaks both legs and has to be put down, and Obama's supporters think it's funny. Big freakin' joke there in that junior high school boys' room of yours, Bucky.
Sick, demented little children. Pathetic, twisted, tiny little minds laughing at tragedy.
Is this the sort of "change" your Dear Leader stands for? Is this the "hope" He wants to bring to this country?
Losers.
May 3, 2008 10:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gesundheit!
May 3, 2008 10:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please don't paint all Obama supporters with the same brush. I for one am VERY sad about Eight Belles, and am disturbed by the comparison.
May 3, 2008 11:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eat shit, you humorless, monster-loving blowhard.
May 4, 2008 12:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Grade school chump.
There. Ya feel better now, Bucky?
May 4, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dededo was the last area counted, to this point Obama had a 7% lead? Not saying anything, but are you sure you got the spelling right on your name?
May 3, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Hillary wants a recount, she can certainly pay the money for one. Either way, it's a 2-2 delegate split there, with Obama getting a 3-2 edge on superdelegates.
And a one delegate win is still quite definitely a win.
May 3, 2008 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dededo was strongly won by Clinton. Really want that recount?
May 3, 2008 9:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
chirrrrrp!
May 3, 2008 10:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's spreadsheet predicted an 11% win in Guam. Has his momentum shifted? And, BTW he also predicted a 7% win in IN.
A new NH poll on RCP has Clinton losing to McCain by three and Obama losing to McCain by seven. He loses worse than Clinton among Independents.
Hope you are not superstitious.
May 3, 2008 8:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
In spite of all that, she is still losing to him. This poses significant problems for Senator Clinton.
May 3, 2008 8:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
So is Guam like the Mason Dixie States?
May 3, 2008 8:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Until a nominee is chosen the national polls against Sen McCain don't say much, and supers are not really paying attention to them, mostly because they are, with few exceptions, all within the margin of error.
Undeclared elected super dels are slavering over the Obama money machine, however, knowing it cannot be inherited by Sen Clinton. Green is the color which motivates them most.
Also, unless you are part of the Obama campaign, I'm sure this Oracle of Excel of which you speak has probably been updated once or twice since the version you worship came to light.
Once Obama has clinched it, the campaign will return to issues, and the GOP looses on pretty much all counts.
I do not understand the "superstitious" reference. Should I be knocking over salt, or avoiding sidewalk cracks?
It will all be over soon.
Pax,
M.
May 3, 2008 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I know it will be, but the part that's really annoying me is that until then, it's more
clap, clap, point, point, nod, nod.
God, I hate that.
May 3, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me, too. Reason #442 why we need change.
May 3, 2008 10:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
With the philly finishing second today and then being euthanized, the superstitions are shifting against the Shrillary forces of triangulation and bullshit.
May 3, 2008 8:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's not just an asshole, he's a semi-literate asshole.
Maybe next year, in Junior English class, they'll teach you the difference between a city in Pennsylvania (which The Dear Leader lost, by the way) and a young female horse.
Assuming you finish sophomore year first, Bucky.
Twit.
May 3, 2008 10:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yo dumbass.
Obama WON Philly.
Now shove your condescension up your ass.
May 4, 2008 12:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yo dumbass!
Obama WON Philly.
Now take your monster-loving condescension, and shove it up your ass.
May 4, 2008 12:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Reading is fundamental, Bucky.
Semi-literate, chump asshole.
May 4, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for keeping us up to date on the latest Clinton talking points!
May 3, 2008 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's spreadsheet predicted a 2-2 split in Guam, which is exactly what he got.
May 3, 2008 9:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
All of these races are local, so citing momentum really only goes so far.
Ultimately, Hillary didn't lose Guam by as much as predicted because Bill went there, and Hillary made a bunch of panderpromises.
... but the Clinton's shaving a few percentages in Guam made *zero* difference in the delegate outcome, while Obama stayed on focus in Indiana and North Carolina, which is where he needs to be in order to make a real delegate difference.
So yeah... he coasted on Guam, and still won.
May 3, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
BTW, she "predicted" that she was the inevitable nominee. She was expecting victory by the end of Super Tuesday. Too bad she lost the crown.
May 3, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
The difference is that he supposedly does not engage in the old politics,so should we be pointing her as a role model for his word and actions?
He votes for tax holidays trice in IL and them slams her for the same thing. Sure sounds like recycled politics on his part.
May 3, 2008 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you would bother to study the issue, you would hear him say "we tried that in IL, and it was a failure." Politics is trial, failure, and trial again until you get it. Sometimes you do not.
A gas tax holiday does not stir the National Anthem in me, not with such bigger fish to fry. This is Sen Clinton's core problem: she does not inspire. She only endures. Like pneumonia.
Sen Clinton admits failure with the same frequency as W. They also have obliteration in common.
Pax,
M.
May 3, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think I actually meant "legislating" not "politics" with regard to process.
We've been in a campaign for, what? 16 years now? Bill Clinton never stopped campaigning, and the existing criminal enterprise posing as a presidency has its own propaganda problems.
We need to end the campaign. Once the votes are counted, of course.
Pax,
M.
May 3, 2008 9:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sounds like spin on your part.
May 3, 2008 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Guam is having an automatic recount. 500 "spoiled" ballots.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/3/203619/3196
May 3, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Doesn't matter much though, as the delegate results will be the same.
May 3, 2008 10:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
One of the superdelegates is endorsing the popular vote winner so it could flip one superdelegate.
May 4, 2008 7:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
eric klondike, 2,257 "regular" people 2,264 negroes and latte sippers on guam...oh i gotta go poop...too many lattes.
i'm back. where was i? oh yeah read on the kos that the day finished 7 to 3 delegates for obama. but he is having such a bad newscycle wright?, wright, wright, wright, wright, wright, wright, wright, wright,...WRONG!. good thing he is so damn good at raking in delegates cos that happens to be the currency of victory.
May 3, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Officials Say Recount Is 'Imminent'
Pacific News Center Staff Reporter 04.MAY.08
*9:30 a.m.* Guam - The Democrat Party Nominating Committee said officials will look over the large amount of "spoiled ballots" in the coming days.
At issue is the small margin of victory of Senator Barack Obama. He beat his rival, Senator Hillary Clinton by 7 votes, but well over 500 ballots were deemed invalid during the tabulation process.
Herbie Perez, chairman of the nominating committee, said she will not certify the results because the Committee needs to ensure that all the uncounted ballots were properly identified as "spoiled."
She said officials from the Party and representatives from both candidates will meet probably Monday or Tuesday to address that issue.
Perez revealed she is also looking into the missing ballots.
More than 8,100 were printed in response to reports of shortages at precinct sites. But when the final tally came in, only a little over 4,500 ballots were used.
Article Here - its a long url:
http://www.pacificnewscenter.com/default.asp?sourceid=&smenu=97&twindow=&mad=&sdetail=24109&wpage=1&skeyword=&sidate=&ccat=&ccatm=&restate=&restatus=&reoption=&retype=&repmin=&repmax=&rebed=&rebath=&subname=&pform=&sc=1718&hn=pacificnewscenter&he=.com
May 3, 2008 9:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
enough about guam, let's get back to reverend wright. that is what really matters
May 3, 2008 10:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
OBAMA WON GUAM!!!! WOO-H0O!!!!
The Dear Leader can't win the swing states, but he sure took Guam by storm. Sorta. Maybe. If you squint a little.
Wow. There's jubilation in Study Hall tonight.
And the best part? It's Saturday!!!! You kiddies get to stay up late celebrating!!!!
Word up!
May 3, 2008 10:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can't win swing states: He won Wisconsin, Iowa, Missouri, Minnesota. Her swing states: Pennsylvania and Ohio.
May 3, 2008 11:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
EastWest...
Nice work honey buns.
Keep playing the sour grapes card.
If the Indiana pricks are dumb enough to fall for my gas tax holiday they might also be dumb enough to think the grapes are sour too.
You are doing a heck of a job honey...
May 3, 2008 10:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
A BIG yawn in Guam!
May 3, 2008 10:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah but I bet it's not for the people in Guam.
:)
May 3, 2008 11:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wasn't it sort of funny that Obama was ahead by six percent with 95% in--and only one precinct left. Did Hillary win one precinct by 90% or is Guam a County in Texas?
May 3, 2008 11:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think 95% was in terms of precincts 19/20 not in terms of total votes.
May 4, 2008 7:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
The great thing is that every time you post, you make Hillary and her supporters look bad. Keep it up!
Word.
May 3, 2008 11:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
but what about his pastor? i heard that the pastor was humping girls half his age in the church rectory? can you imagine?
May 4, 2008 12:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
i heard the pastor called his wife a cunt.
May 4, 2008 12:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why can't clinton win the big states?
May 4, 2008 12:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
his own wife that is, i mean the pastor's wife. then the pastor was telling tall tales of braving sniperfire.
May 4, 2008 12:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
erich klusterfeel, did the pastor have anything to do with the guam vote? are there any exit polls? are they pissed about the pastor? was it the cunt quote?
May 4, 2008 12:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
EastWest:
I call bullshit on this horseshit.
Let's get real here:
Hillary Clinton made an issue out of the filly.
She sent her daughter on a Lear jet to the race for a photo-op; while at the very same time her husband is in West Virginia slamming Obama for being an elitist.
Got that?
Obama is an elitist while poor working class Chelsea is dressed up as Queen Anne at Epsom Downs betting a grand on Hillary's horse-avatar.
Horse piss!
Let's get real here:
If the horse won Hillary was going to use it for political advantage. She would beaten that angle to death. There would have been photo-ops: Hillary feeding the horse an apple. Chelsea scratching it behind the ears. Bill stroking its butt with a big grin. Endless photo-ops. The MSM would have spread this feel-good story far and wide.
That was the Clinton plan.
And if all that had come to pass, it would be just fine with Clinton folk. The horse is a winner. Hillary is a winner. And both are females. Yipee-ki-ay.
The problem is the horse didn't win. Problem is the horse didn't know when to stop running. Problem is the horse got destroyed. Problem is you don't like the fact that someone is pointing out the hypocrisy of the situation and using the very metaphor Clinton had hoped to use against Obama... against her.
And so you cry foul...
And pretend to ride the high road.
Bullshit.
It is all horse shit.
The metaphor works both ways.
Like or not.
May 4, 2008 1:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bravo, you sure lived upto your "name" there. I think it was exactly her plan to literally "beat that horse to death" and you know what, she did just that. ...
Yeah, yeah I know it is a bit unfair but fuck with being PC anymore.
May 4, 2008 1:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Truthful deconstruction is never cruel. We've had enough lies.
May 4, 2008 1:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
You haven't addressed the basic issue: You 'bots are masturbating over the death of that horse. Mindless animal cruelty, and you adolescents are getting off on it.
Yep. The Dear Leader's bringing "change" to the Democratic Party, all right. His mindless 'bots are changing it into the Republican Party.
Congratulations, Barack.
May 4, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
More Bullshit from the EastWest Clinton-apologizing asshole.
May 4, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
9:30 a.m. Guam - The Democrat Party Nominating Committee said officials will look over the large amount of "spoiled ballots" in the coming days.
At issue is the small margin of victory of Senator Barack Obama. He beat his rival, Senator Hillary Clinton by 7 votes, but well over 500 ballots were deemed invalid during the tabulation process.
Herbie Perez, chairman of the nominating committee, said she will not certify the results because the Committee needs to ensure that all the uncounted ballots were properly identified as "spoiled."
She said officials from the Party and representatives from both candidates will meet probably Monday or Tuesday to address that issue.
Perez revealed she is also looking into the missing ballots.
More than 8,100 were printed in response to reports of shortages at precinct sites. But when the final tally came in, only a little over 4,500 ballots were used. - Pacific News Center - Guam, Saipan, CNMI, Asia-Pacific
May 4, 2008 2:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
I simply want to commend the person who posted on the appropriateness of the title. I was appalled by how many major news sources failed to include that it was only seven votes.
May 4, 2008 4:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
obama won because of his 'democrat for a day' drive to fish for Republicans votes. Thats the kind of candidate Obama is, he'll say anything and does to get even youto vote for him even a state that won't vote in the general.
I wouldn't even be surprised if he flew some voters from the states over there.
with 7 votes win that you're all atwitter over, theres going to be a re-count, don't get your hopes up, echo chamber, there is also a few thousand disqualified votes that someone will take a 2nd look as well.
May 4, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, not a wash at all. There's 5 superdelegates, and Obama will get at least 3 and maybe four of them. Why? He won 14 of 21 voting districts in Guam.
This race was close only because Hillary lied to the people listening on the radio in the largest towns that she would fight to get them full voting rights for Federal elections (only one problem - that would not be possible until Guam became a state).
May 4, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink