Obama On McCain's Troop-Level Gaffe: "Anyone Running For Commander-In-Chief Should Know Better"
The Obama campaign is in good spirits as Friday's happy hour rolls around, chiefly because they clearly won today's political skirmishes with John McCain. They got McCain to admit he was wrong to use General Petraeus' photo in a political attack. And they put him on the defensive over his flubbing of a fact about troop levels in Iraq.
And Obama will continue to squeeze the troop-levels gaffe -- in which McCain wrongly said that we'd drawn down troops to pre-surge levels -- in a Montana speech tonight. Prepared excerpts from the campaign:
He's been proposing a joint trip to Iraq that's nothing more than a political stunt. He's even been using it to raise a few dollars for his campaign. But it seems like Senator McCain's a lot more interested in my travel plans than the facts, because yesterday - in his continued effort to put the best light on a failed policy - he stood up in Wisconsin and said, "We have drawn down to pre-surge levels" in Iraq."That's not true, and anyone running for Commander-in-Chief should know better. As the saying goes, you're entitled to your own view, but not your own facts. We've got around 150,000 troops in Iraq - 20,000 more than we had before the surge. We have plans to get down to around 140,000 later this summer - that's still more troops than we had in Iraq before the surge. And today, Senator McCain refused to correct his mistake. Just like George Bush, when he was presented with the truth, he just dug in and refused to admit his mistake. His campaign said it amounts to "nitpicking."
"Well I don't think tens of thousands of American troops amounts to nitpicking. Tell that to the young men and women who are serving bravely and brilliantly under our flag. Tell that to the families who have seen their loved ones fight tour after tour after tour of duty in a war that should've never been authorized and never been waged.
"Well I don't think tens of thousands of American troops amounts to nitpicking."
Niiiiiice
May 30, 2008 6:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I thought I liked Democratic Primary Obama. This General Election version is something to behold so far.
By August, folks will be calling him George W. McCain.
May 30, 2008 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain and Co. will tell you that the problem with the war in Iraq has been in its execution. The war was not the problem, just bad management. Yet, contra McCain, others insist that had we known then, what we know now, we would not have gone to war. But the fact is that many of us did know, or at least knew enough, and were angry and demoralized because there was nothing we could do to stop the war. Through poor judgment or political calculation (or both), our representatives in the House and Senate voted to authorize Bush’s war on October 11, 2002. Just five five months later, on March 18, 2003, the war began. And now, five years later, in some sort of bizarre parody of Churchill, we have McCain calling for victory and promising never to surrender. (Never surrender to what or to whom?)
"Iraq: It was Never the Right Choice (and we told you so)"
http://msa4.wordpress.com/
May 30, 2008 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama had a little problem of his own today.
Looks like his church is trying to bite him in the ass.
May 31, 2008 12:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Me = happy. Five more months of THIS wouldn't be so bad.
May 30, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
You mean five months + 4-8 years.
May 30, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm so happy the we're into the GE.
And it helps that Obama has the moral ground Clinton could never have in debating anything to do with Iraq.
May 30, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
EXACTLY! That is the point I keep making. When her and her supporters were trying to say Obama's opposition to the war from the beginning wasn't a big deal, he kept saying that we will be in a MUCH stronger position against McCain if we didn't have pro-war baggage on the ticket, and he is showing that clearly.
Now do the doubters see why it was important?
May 30, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
You said what I have been saying for months on end.
Obama doesn't have a Kerry/Clinton problem with slamming the war and leaving McCain holding the bag with bloody hands.
May 30, 2008 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
The same goes with Iran. HRC's Iran vote disqualifies her to criticize McCain's stance (effectviely).
Obama is SO much stronger as a candidate than Clinton could ever be in an election against McCain.
She'd be McCain-lite (Lieberman, really)
May 30, 2008 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, McCain is Lieberman-lite.
I'm sure one guy who's being drummed more than McCain on youtube is the irregular Joe.
May 30, 2008 11:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the rest of the excerpt:
May 30, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
{{{{SWOON}}}}
May 30, 2008 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
HALLEULIJIAH!!!
praise JESUS!!
AMEN
This is OUR Moment.
May 30, 2008 8:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fabulous!
May 30, 2008 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sen McCain is making it easy to take back foreign policy from the GOP, leaving them with, well, nothing.
Oh, wait, lower taxes. And record war/oil profits, all invested forever beyond the reach of justice.
They'll spend it on avoiding buggary behind bars.
The country is just sick to death of war, and not just in Iraq. The U.S. declared war on autism last summer. The U.S. recently sold that bastion of terror Argentina fighter jets. You don't put a gun on the wall in Act I you do not intend to see used in Act III.
We must demand real justice from a President Obama.
May 30, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is going to be a fun GE.
May 30, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
If after this and the past two weeks anyone still has any remaining doubts about Obama's preparedness for a heated foreign policy campaign debate, then nothing will convince them.
However, we are yet to be impressed some more, I am sure.
May 30, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
BAM! BAM! BAM!!
I feel like come August McCain is just going to fall apart and the Republicans are going to have to put Romney or Huckabee in as a new candidate at their convention.
Easy Obama, save a little for October ;)
May 30, 2008 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
rotflmao!!
that is such a great visual...they said he couldn't bowl ...but he knows how to STRIKE the GOP pin after pin after pin..just falling down
May 30, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice.
A good day for Obama, bad day for McCain.
He could argue he heard Petraus testify and hope he was telling the truth.
Or how many times is McCain going to forget the facts or his positions.
May 30, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wha, wha, whaaaaat?
May 30, 2008 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, his day was not without kooks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H11x6bMu4Y
May 30, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
sigh...
May 30, 2008 7:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Humor the poor dear. His entire worldview is crumbling as we speak.
May 30, 2008 7:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gotcha.
Sorry, the corporate media is all over it and even McCain called it disgusting.
Great day for Clinton thanks to that radical, racist, divisive, bs.
Shame on Obama.
Shame he will not quit that radical kook church.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
May 30, 2008 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are just so adorable when you're mad.
May 30, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
So the Catholic church are kooks?
May 30, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
OOH!
I can answer that one!
May 31, 2008 2:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, I know. It's like some logic circuit reversed polarity. It may be False Cheese, however...
May 30, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seems authentic, even the syntax.
May 30, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
No Surrender
May 30, 2008 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel like I'm watching Rocky IV, and McCain is Apollo Creed (okay, more like Mickey), and Obama is Ivan Drago...and, spoiler alert, it is a massacre. And McCain never saw it coming.
May 30, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are all in for a terrific treat. I have been following Sen. Obama's career and words for nearly 5 years now and he has never ceased to amaze me.
I almost envy y'all your next few years :-)
May 30, 2008 7:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, we've been supporting him since he ran for Congress in 2000. He's both an amazing guy and a hell of a fighter. He's totally going to Rope-a-Dope McCain.
And Michelle! Talk about a first lady you'd REALLY want to be President some day.
May 30, 2008 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Indeedy, a treat it is.
May 30, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
O you're giving me the shivers, Radha.
I already feel like it's been a treat.
May 30, 2008 7:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kaboom!
Hit the "stunt" touch again too. He is already showing some chops and after next week and the psychodrama of the nomination is over... he can rev it up in slowly increasing pressure until John McSame blows a gasket.
The Obama Ferrari engine is beginning to purr nicely and will be nicely warmed up to growl when he punches the accelerator as the wheels come off the McSame Studebaker.
May 30, 2008 7:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
i think one of mcSame's grandkids drove a studebaker.
May 30, 2008 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL
Touché
May 30, 2008 7:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
AND DOWN GOES McSAME!!!!!
Nicely done.
Full speed ahead!
May 30, 2008 7:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
The circus has started at the DNC.
They are protesters screaming count our votes.
What a freaking joke of an election.
And we are forcing this crap on other countries while bombing the crap out of them.
Insane.
May 30, 2008 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Live blogging with the "count our votes" clowns are we?
May 30, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh, if you don't like the circus, maybe you should stop being a clown.
May 30, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
gotalife for president!
May 30, 2008 7:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
...truth...
May 30, 2008 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
No - the protestors are a fucking joke, and I think that's exactly how the supers will see them.
It's a canned protest - just like the Brooks Brothers Riot of 2000 and everyone knows it. It does Hillary no good at all.
Plus it is all starting to remind me of Terri Schiavo - Clinton's campaign is dead. But Clinton is putting on a dog and pony show in Florida and throwing a fit saying No it isn't It's Alive! Just like Terri Schiavo's deluded parents and the vultures who turned out as part of the thing.
May 30, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
And unlike 2000, thanks to the Great Bloggery, we practically have the protestors' playbook, their plans, and what they had for dinner the night before!
May 30, 2008 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!!!!!! Just LOL on that. A morbidly hilarious analogy.
May 30, 2008 9:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's a great exchange for him except that apparently both NBC and ABC felt Father Pfleger was a better lead for their newscasts.
I am so tired of people u have no idea
May 30, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you KIDDING me?!
This is just too much. We are in a major campaign and they are going to cover this man's church INSTEAD!
Unbelievable.
That's precisely why Rev Wright called it USKKKA.
No political figure has ever had his church demonized.
This is flat out unconstitutional.
May 30, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anything to avoid facing culpability for Iraq, which is simmering now, and will continue to boil through Monday at least. It will attain a life of it's own soon enough. The President authorized treason.
May 30, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
The good news?
Nobody watches the Nightly News in the Internet world.
May 30, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Richard Reeves, from May 23 column:
Whatever one thinks of the war and the officials who planned it, those soldiers and reservists out there deserve more than moral support. My stomach literally turned when I read this paragraph in The New York Times last Thursday morning:
"President Bush is threatening to veto a bill that would pay tuition and other expenses at a four-year public university for anyone who has served in the military for three years since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. A main reason is that it would hasten an exodus from the ranks."
Secretary of Defense Robert Gates put it this way: "Serious retention issues could arise."
I bet they could. And should. The war is being fought by a tiny percentage of the American people, and many of their lives are being ruined. You want a war, Mr. President? Then ask Congress to declare one. You want soldiers to be retained? Then ask for a draft. You want to support our boys and girls? Then support their education as other presidents and Congresses have done since the passage of the great GI Bill of Rights during World War II — legislation that is still benefiting this country.
What is being done to our troops in Iraq is more than a failure of political leadership; it is an outrage. Forget the fact that we never declared war, or that we never had a real plan about what to do in Iraq, or that we are fighting on credit, leaving the bills for our children and grandchildren. Remember that only a small number are involved in this — the same people, professionals and reservists, are being called back into harm's way again and again.
Those young men and women, serving a government without the guts to even talk about a draft, are essentially indentured servants. Worse. At least indentured servants knew when their obligation would be over. This is more than unfair; it is shameful, a stain on the democracy and its leaders. And now the president is considering depriving them of a reward they deserve because some of them might actually take it and not re-enlist.
This is a professional army? There was a time when troops treated that way, no matter how well-trained or equipped, were called cannon fodder. We owe them. The president whose ignorance put them in the Middle East owes them. The Congress, which is ever looking the other way and has not declared war on anyone since 1941, owes them.
This war is not worthy of a free country. And unless we do something for the young people bravely taking the punishment for the failings of their elders, we have no right to claim this is a land of the free.
link to the complete column: http://www.richardreeves.com/latest_column.html
May 30, 2008 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, great column.
May 30, 2008 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for that.
All words are now testimony. All acts are now evidence. The President ordered the outing of a CIA agent, a crime his father considered treason.
Only a matter of time. 28% approval BEFORE Scott.
May 30, 2008 8:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
At least O'Bama knows how many troops to surrender
May 30, 2008 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
You must be part of the sacrifice party. Sacrifice our solidiers and treasury for the Bush Fallacy. These last 5 years must make you proud.
May 30, 2008 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Turn on the snark-dar, buddy.
May 30, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
A true soldier knows any war launched on immoral grounds can never achieve victory.
Add this to the 3,427,328 things Sen McCain has forgotten.
May 30, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Amen
May 30, 2008 9:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow! Just a week ago I posted that John McCain would self-destruct on the campaign trail, citing among other examples, an incident mentioned in an article in NYmag: While speaking to a group the teleprompter malfunctioned and McCain stood for a full four minutes in total silence until it was fixed. Sheesh, not a synapse firing. Given all the lapses previously mentioned it's going to be sad to watch. If the phone rings at 3am---we're all toast.
May 30, 2008 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
If the phone rings at 3am---we're all toast.
No we aren't - cause Obama will be answering it.
Of course, if the phone really rings at 3 AM in the White House, the chances of the president answering are pretty slim. Like - none.
May 30, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
"It’s time for a debate that’s based on how we’re going to end this war – not a debate that’s based on raising a few dollars for John McCain’s campaign."
Grand slam!
I'm honored and proud to have him as our nominee. I'll be even mre honored and proud to have him as my president.
May 30, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know - isn't it great? We actually have someone who stands up and says what we've been begging someone to say. And he's - god he's the only candidate I've ever supported I was so completely without doubts - I really love this man and I really believe in him.
May 30, 2008 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Well I don't think tens of thousands of American troops amounts to nitpicking."
HOT DAYUUUUUUUUM!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm so glad HRC is outta this race...Obama is free to take on McCain like he never could with that whinning crying crap HRc always pulled!!
It is ON!!
YeeeHAAAAAAAAAAW!!!!
May 30, 2008 8:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gah! More fucking Geraldine Ferraro. This woman is desperate to relevant.
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/05/30/healing_the_wounds_of_democrats_sexism/
May 30, 2008 8:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
She is the face of the entitled core of the dem party, and both are cracking apart as Time overtakes them.
May 30, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
She is nothing but Archie Bunker in a skirt.
GEEESH!~
May 30, 2008 8:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ferraro is so full of shit.
In fact, she's a fucking lunatic.
It's Clinton supporters/insiders like her, Lanny Davis, Terry McAuliffe, Taylor Marsh who prompt me to continue to call her Shrillary.
Blaming Obama as being out of touch with white racists for where he and his wife went to college and law school?
But a Wellesley-Yale grad married to a Georgetown-Yale-Oxford grad is just so "middle America?"
Are you sure McCain wasn't yelling at her, when he called his wife a trollop and a word that rhymes with "punt?"
May 30, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damn skippy
TELL IT!!!
May 31, 2008 3:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
nice.
May 30, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
But the fun fact (as pointed out already by Andrew Sullivan) is that she asks for a Shorenstein study unaware, evidently, that the report on one was just released by them yesterday! And it finds that Clinton has been very well treated by the press:
http://www.hks.harvard.edu/presspol/
May 30, 2008 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hehe, I saw that. How could she not have contacted them before this tripe went to print? It completely destroys her whole argument. It seems, absolutely nothing can go right for her...the question is, is this a self-fulfilling prophecy?
May 31, 2008 7:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
If the study proves that Hillary Clinton's campaign was indeed racist and sexist, what will Ferry do? Will she apologize? Or will she cry foul, again?
May 30, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed. She is a parody of the Clinton campaigns old-school mindset.
May 30, 2008 10:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
No whining, Geraldine. It's the goddamn whining from you and Hillary - you've set women back 20 years.
Now shut up, you old, irrelevant, nothing!
May 30, 2008 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've seen her on Fox recently. She is one weird person. Unfathomable to me, how or why, she was ever a VP nominee and part of a ticket.
May 30, 2008 8:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Three words: Joe Fucking Lieberman
When it comes to VP candidates, the Dems have a lot to answer for.
May 30, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Hillary and Geraldine and Bill don't stop whining - it's like representing a bunch of convicted felons - I"m not kidding. It's never their fault = it's always the system. They were always out to get them.
Shut the fuck up already you hags! You're making me look bad, dammit. And the rest of the women in this country who don't agree with you.
May 30, 2008 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just imagine if HRC was President, she would WHINE each and every time when challenged on foreign policy or any major decision and then she would spin it as SEXIST!!
How in the HELL could we even THINK she is electability of has the temperment or judgment to be the President.
She is nothing but a whinning termagant.
May 30, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL Tena.
You sound like my wife!
I still recall that old assclown, Morton Downey, Jr. shouting down some old lady on his show with:
"Shut up, ya old hag!"
How appropriate to aim it at Geraldine "The racist-who-would-have-never-been-a-VP-candidate-if-she-wasn't-a-woman" Ferraro.
May 30, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's really infuriating to me.
There isn't any one way to be a feminist, goddamn it - and I've run into a lot of women of that generation who do not get that to this day.
May 30, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Evainne - Don't ask me what Mondale was thinking. She wasn't vetted well, since it turned out to be a disaster - her husband is connected.
May 30, 2008 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's really hard to see what she sees in the dem party. The entitlement to be disrespectful to a party leader just makes no sense whatsoever. And what has she said on the issues?
(...crickets...)
May 30, 2008 8:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Answering your page.
May 30, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
Cricket - I read that trilogy about 3 years ago and cannot remember her name - Rhapsody?
May 30, 2008 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hush chicka. There's a dude on another thread trying to find out info on my avatar. Shhhh!
May 30, 2008 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess I was mistaken there, Cricket - not the picture I thought it was.
May 30, 2008 9:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
heh heh
Old Rupert made Keith's Worst!
Brilliant!
May 30, 2008 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
john "100 years" mccain is just making it too easy.
May 30, 2008 8:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is an inspiration.
May 30, 2008 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Could he play it any cooler, I'd like to know? Just brilliant campaigning, and you can tell by his carriage and demeanor that he is first in line to be done campaigning when it's time.
May 30, 2008 9:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, I have nothing new to add, but I have to say just how fracking thrilling it is to have a Dem candidate who is willing and able to bodyslam the Republicans. Seriously, no mincing of words, no faux "I really respect my opponents opinion, but I believe blah blah blah" type of crap. Just straight up "He's a dumbass". I AM LOVING IT! :)
May 30, 2008 9:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah and he just tells the truth.
I swear that is his whole strategy - he fucking tells the truth!
It's breathtaking -
May 30, 2008 9:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
He was raised right proper!
May 30, 2008 9:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah my friend, well... What was i going to say? Oh yeah Bomb um...No.. negotiate yes ...well I can't remember.
Well whatever it is their fired and it won't happen again.
May 30, 2008 9:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
What you all said above. Woo-hoo!
All I can add is ... check out the cute little guy and his shirt at the bottom of this page on Barack's Great Falls, Montana rally!
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/caitlinharvey/gGB4nk
May 30, 2008 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sends chills up my spine. Dare I believe in the future? It's been so long wandering in the darkness.
May 30, 2008 9:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hasn't it though? Not sure my eyes will be able to handle the light of day. :)
And his first 100 days, with the promise to review all the executive orders issued by Bush/Cheney will have me crying I'm sure. It will be so great to get this country back on track.
May 30, 2008 10:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's more on McCain's "love" for vets. I've written a post on it but frankly I'd rather have you read the article if there's a chance you missed the post:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-humes30-2008may30,0,132421,print.story
Shocking, appalling, but if you want some great talking points for your next 'discussion' with a Republican, print it out and post it prominently.
May 30, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
In case you didn't get this:
http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,164859,00.html
May 30, 2008 9:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great links!
Thanks!
May 31, 2008 12:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain: "Bomb, bomb, bomb..bomb, bomb Iran"
Clinton: "...Obliterate them"
President to-be Obama: "...We should talk not just to our friends, but our enemies as well. ...From a position of strength..."
Just what a world that prays for peace deserves-
(paraphrasing above)
May 30, 2008 9:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh God, I am SO happy! I just love listening to that man talk!
May 30, 2008 9:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can't believe it. just like the Clintons.
Comes in with an advantage military wise...turns it into a SNAFU and it blows up into a FUBAR!
SNAFU=Situation normal all F*** Up
FUBAR=F*d up Beyond all Recognition
May 30, 2008 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
ROFL! Everything should have an acronym!
May 30, 2008 10:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Been there done that
May 30, 2008 10:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
BTDT
May 30, 2008 10:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like your posts mar
May 30, 2008 11:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
The feeling is mutual!
May 31, 2008 12:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
You should go to this site:
http://www.businessballs.com/acronyms.htm
May 30, 2008 11:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
The federal government, every department - civil or military - damn near, requires everything to be reduced to an acronym.
May 31, 2008 12:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
We're just now getting the first glimpses of Obama The Fighter. He showed restraint against his fellow Democrats, but he will not show similar restraint against McCain.
I can't remember the exact details, but a few years ago McCain made a few headlines by lobbing some shots at Obama... a transparent ploy to boost his appeal among the party of pointy white hoods by taking the uppity young black man out to the wood shed. I don't believe the younger man has forgotten or forgiven this and is now going to take great pleasure in driving Grandpa Simpson to the brink of a coronary.
May 30, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the reminder of that-
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/02/an_outraged_sen.html
I had forgotten about it, but yeah, no love lost between those two. The absolute best part is this-
"His last line suggests that Obama will not soon regain McCain's favor.
Writes McCain, "I understand how important the opportunity to lead your party's effort to exploit this issue must seem to a freshman Senator, and I hold no hard feelings over your earlier disingenuousness. Again, I have been around long enough to appreciate that in politics the public interest isn't always a priority for every one of us. Good luck to you, Senator."
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Can't wait for Obama to kick his ass in the GE. Good luck to you Senator Obama indeed. :)
May 30, 2008 11:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup, that was the exact dustup I was thinking of.
Obama's been waiting for this. He wants McCain bad.
May 30, 2008 11:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Talk about the high road! Check out Obama's reply to McCain's rant:
http://obama.senate.gov/letter/060206-sen_obama_and_sen_mccain_exchange_letters_on_ethics_reform/index.html
(So much for age having anything to do with emotional maturity.)
May 31, 2008 12:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Again, I have been around long enough to appreciate that in politics the public interest isn't always a priority for every one of us.
Sounds like a confession.
May 31, 2008 1:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
We had a FP debate of the first degree the last three weeks- Iraq, Iran, Cuba, etc. How long has it been since two candidates went back and forth on legitimate issues? Also, when was the last time a democrat went on the offensive and challenged his opponent on FP?
If only Nation (and the media) focus more on this fascinating debate rather than spending time on pastors and gaffes?
This is the debate the country needs, so badly.
May 30, 2008 11:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
How about the McCain folks yelling BOHICA?
BOHIHICA=Bend over here it comes again.
May 30, 2008 11:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
My Friends..
Obama handed me my ass today...I didn't even see it coming.
Thank you!
May 30, 2008 11:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
That makes Obama a t-cup...
Total control under pressure
May 30, 2008 11:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The job of uniting the Democratic Party after a long and divisive primary season just got tougher, thanks to yet another Chicago Christian leader who's a longtime friend and associate of Illinois Sen. Barack Obama. "
Great day for Clinton. Count all the votes tomorrow then a huge landslide in PR.
It was great to see them get the respect and loyalty they deserve in PR.
For the rest of you, they owe you nothing.
May 30, 2008 11:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
And great news for Hillary, too.
We've come full circle.
G'night.
May 30, 2008 11:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
"For the rest of you, they owe you nothing"
Quite the contrary. Those of us who admire good performance art owe the two of them a debt of gratitude that they can never repay.
May 31, 2008 3:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
55-45...she needs at least 65...bad news for Clinton, again.
May 31, 2008 8:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
You know when you're down to touting a "huge landslide in Puerto Rico" as a Huge Victory, it's time to pull the plug, disengage the feeding tube and let the poor damn campaign go.
Honest to god.
It's the really merciful thing one could do for Hillary if one really cared about her.
May 30, 2008 11:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, let's not get too hasty. Maybe we should have Frist do a video diagnosis of the corps...er, campaign. There may yet be signs of life!
May 31, 2008 12:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama had showed some mercy to Hillary in this campaign when she was throwing the kitchen sink at him. He has demenstrated leadership and restraint in my opinion.
Debates will produce clear differences in positions, character and the critical issues of our times.
May 31, 2008 12:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's been said before, but I'll say it again.
Obama is not afraid of Republicans.
May 31, 2008 12:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
And this scares the hell outta the GOP. Wait until the indictments start. Scott could well turn out to be our era's John Dean. Cancer on the Presidency, indeed!
It does not appear that a President Obama would have much sympathy for it.
May 31, 2008 12:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think it is time for all women who supporter Obama to defect and dissemble as Hillary supporters. That way we can perhaps persuade the true Hill supporters to see the folly of their ways.
I too was a Hillayr supporter from 92-96 I thought she was awesome THEN..based on that I can sing her praises and commiserate with 2008 Hill supporters.
Hopefully this intentional deceit to manipulate, persuade and cajole 'true' Hill supporters to face reality.
Nothing like common ground as a starting point for unity...even if it is false...I learned that from HILL
May 31, 2008 3:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
My friends, I predict that mcbush will stop doing town hall meetings in a month or so because he is gaffe prone. He can't keep his facts straight possibly from age or the fact that he isn't very bright to begin with, 3rd from the bottom at annapolis. Straight talk my a**. In reality, he has never been in an election probably for decades where he had to go against a strong democrat. All his campaigning has been before diehards within the republican party. Also, he is not getting any media attention right now. The general is a different animal. The more media scrutiny he gets, the more his numbers go down. Also, I predict that mcbush will get slaughtered in november. Thank you.
May 31, 2008 8:57 AM | Reply | Permalink