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Obama Nabs Another Super-Delegate

His campaign announces that he just picked up another super-del: California DNC Member and superdelegate Ed Espinoza.

On the super-del front, ABC News made a big splash this morning by reporting that Obama has passed Hillary in the super-del count, 267-265.

It's worth noting, however, that the Obama campaign's own super-del count doesn't find this. According to them, she leads 274-265.

It's possible that ABC -- unlike the Obama campaign -- is counting super-dels who have privately committed but not gone public, perhaps explaining the disparity. Either way, the campaign says that he's 163 delegates overall from securing the Dem nomination.


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Most TPMEC readers likely know this already, but it's also worth noting Ed Espinoza is the man behind the mysterious -- until yesterday's reveal -- mrsuper.org superdelegate blog.

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Bottom line: it is over.

That being said I am making a plea to Eric and Greg: please ban the republican spammers like Gottalife, Present. Now that this is over they have shown themselves to be GOP trolls that do nothing but attempt to hijack threads.

LOL.

Please, don't feed the trolls.

Very nice!

If anything - Gotalife should have earned everyone's respect - with his (her?) well written, simple (very), message of Obama being complete Kool Aid. It's not like he's some unemployed bum with a dirth of free time on his hands, an elementary school reading level, and the IQ of a large rabbit. I mean come on!

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You're right, he has the IQ of a small rabit.

A small rabbit turd.

It's not like he's some unemployed bum with a dirth of free time on his hands...

er,

a) "dirth" is not a word...the word is dearth

b) "dearth" is a synonym for "lack", i.e. it means the exact opposite of what you're trying to say.

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Hee.

I think Gotalife would agree with me - correcting someone's blatant misuse of the English language is "elitist" Cool aid that leads us nowhere!

I don't know. Gotalife is hostile, and hardly ever produces what might be called argument or new information, but his/her comments are generally on subject. Doesn't seem to warrant the extreme measure of a ban. Plus many of us seem to enjoy him/her in a perverse way.

I confess that I do feel a certain perverse affection for Gotalife, not unlike the exasperated affection I feel for the squirrels who rob my birdfeeder. Annoying, infuriating, yet entertaining. (The difference being that the squirrels are also both remarkably clever and kind of cute.)

Perverse -- as the way that some people like to pick at scabs?

I have to respectfully disagree.

We are a collection of different voices and opinions and we should respect and cherish the opinions of Hillary's supporters. They ARE fellow Democrats. We may squabble, but we're family.

I would, however, appreciate a perma-ban of ludmilla who has nothing to offer but the MOST incendiary posts possible.

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Stop, OK? Outside of votenic, there are no spammers on this site. Everyone's got a right to express their opinion. It's America. Remember free speech?

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I don't support banning the trolls, with the exception of "Present," who deliberately prevents other users from replying to his comments.

Okay, ban ludmilla too.

May 9, 2008
Gallup Daily: Obama Not Yet Pulling Away
Democratic nomination preferences remain evenly divided


PRINCETON, NJ -- According to Gallup Poll Daily tracking, Democratic voters remain closely divided in their presidential nomination preferences, with 48% favoring Barack Obama and 46% backing Hillary Clinton.

These results are based on May 6-8 interviewing, with roughly two-thirds of the interviews completed after the results of the North Carolina and Indiana primaries were known. The discussion among political experts following Obama's big North Carolina win and Clinton's slim Indiana victory has centered on when, not if, Clinton will drop out of the nomination contest. With just six smaller state primaries remaining, it is unlikely Clinton can overcome Obama's lead in pledged convention delegates.

Despite this talk, Obama remains in a statistical dead heat with Clinton for the 16th consecutive day. (To view the complete trend since Jan. 3, 2008, click here.) After a stronger showing in Wednesday's interviewing, Obama just barely edged out Clinton in Thursday interviewing, leaving him with just a two percentage point advantage in the three-day rolling average that also includes Tuesday's night-of-primary interviewing. Saturday's update will be the first to include completely post-Indiana/North Carolina interviewing.

Obama and John McCain have run within one point of each other for the last four days of tracking of general election voting preferences. In the May 4-8 data, 46% of registered voters say they would vote for Obama if the election were held today and 45% would pull the lever for McCain.

Clinton fares slightly better against McCain, 48% to 44%. Ironically, that four-point advantage is her best to date since Gallup began tracking general election voter preferences in early March. - Jeff Jones

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Um, so what?

It is over, she lost, quit whining about it.

Is this a race of polls or a race for delegates?

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Totally irrelevant poll this far out from the general election when Clinton is still deluding herself that she has any chance whatsoever and is dominating the news cycles right now. Give it up, Otto - it ain't gonna happen for your girl. She fought the good fight (well, not good in the sense of fair or honest) and she lost. Time to move on to defeat McCain in the generals.

She will crush him in West Virginia and KY.

And yet he will still have an insurmountable lead in all metrics. Sucks doesn't it.

Please, don't feed the trolls.

True dat (that) Gotalife - If Obama can't close the deal in a swing state like Kentucky or WV - he's toast! I think you can agree with me that if HRC (Hillary Rodham Clinton) has to scuttle the ship (election) to be the captain (nominee) - then so be it! The SS Kool Aid is bound to sink.

I am gotalife's fan (#1).

I love you, man.

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Yes she will. She will crush him. Grind him to little bits. Chew him up and spit him out. And then she will concede.

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And?

Electablity Isn't Enough

The standard now is much higher--Clinton also needs to convince Superdelegates that the party will stay unified behind her if Obama is denied the nomination.

THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!

He's "pulling away" on Ramsussen Otto.

50 to 42, Obama, since Tuesday.

But, you saw that, I'm sure, right above the Gallup number.

Pulling away so far that Ramsussen is suspending it's daily tracking poll of Clinton/Obama.

The AP has 5 listed so far today, Vernon Watkins is the other one
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OBAMA_ENDORSEMENT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAUL

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Keep 'em coming!!! ;)

Obama just got the endorsement of the popular Peter De Fazio in Oregon. This is a big one south of Portland in the university of Eugene. Obama speaks this afternoon at the college.

Clinton campaigned in the middle of nowhere (in Oregon) with Gov. Kulungoski. This is endorsement that only hurts her in the state.

Sorry. My fingers are ahead of me. Left out words. "The University of Oregon in Eugene." Too excited. Wondering about going. It will be massive.

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This is awesome - from the Daily Show regarding Hillary's "hard working White Americans" dog-whistle, as only they can do it:

http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=1012

Greg, Obama's camp announcement lists Espinosa as number 268 in their camp. Slightly off from what you quote as 265.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGB9ny

DCW has Obama down by 5.5, so I don't know where ABC is getting their numbers from. There is an add-on being declared today for Utah and 4 being declared tomorrow from Ohio and Massachusetts, so Obama will take the lead in Supers by Monday or Tuesday most likely, after the WV primary.

David Letterman:

"On Tuesday, Hillary barely won in Indiana, and was beaten badly in North Carolina, but here is the good news; she has a substantial lead in The State of Denial!

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Here's the link to that clip - he was on fire last night! ;)

http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=1020

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Ouch.

Now he's 5.5 supers behind.

Am I the only one loving this slow death?

"It's possible that ABC -- unlike the Obama campaign -- is counting super-dels who have privately committed but not gone public, perhaps explaining the disparity. Either way, the campaign says that he's 163 delegates overall from securing the Dem nomination."

I think this would only make sense if Obama's numbers were *smaller* than ABC's or if a number had told ABC that they had uncommitted from Hillary but not committed to Obama.

Vernon Watkins, super delegate endorsed Obama.

Ed Espinoza is such an elitist.

I'm hopeful.

I'm hopeful that the Clintons aren't nearly as dumb as they appear to be.

Imagine the US Army playing war games. Each side probes, surveys, feints, attacks, etc. in order to strengthen both sides. After the war game, they can compare notes, see the "enemy" plans, strengths and weaknesses in preparation for the real war.

How important is race? How can the race card be trumped? Can Hillary's ploy -- especially in Kentucky and West Virginia -- actually help Obama in the fall. Should some states be written off? Who is contributing; who contributes on the basis of race. Who are allies and who are opportunists?

I can't believe the Clintons will destroy the party for the sake of an impossible goal; even assuming that Sen. Clinton wins the primary and the general, the scum who get paid to destroy people will be out in full force. The industry of personal destruction in the nineties will return like Jason or Freddy.

We need a new (actually old) political dynamic in this country. That won't start until the rule of law is re-established. That won't happen with McCain in the WH. The Clintons have to be as aware of this as anyone in the country. They couldn't govern anyway if they steal the nomination from Obama. They have to know that too.

Does this explain their behavior?

I'm hopeful.

No, Hillary wants to win it ... there isn't any calculated positioning.

I do not believe that Hillary was being racial, I do not think she was trying to offend. It's my firm belief that she was attempting to use a metric that she felt helped justify her position for the nomination and didn't word it very well. She's grasping at straws as it were.

I was a Hillary supporter, but have myself switched camps to Obama. I was once actually offended that the woman who made Hillary cry was voting for Obama. Obama's message of hope has really hit me and while he might be lying to me I'll hold on to the possibility that change can and will occur with him as President.

As much "damage" as many perceive Hillary has done I think time will erase it. To me, it already has.

That's excellent news thewolfe. Welcome to the future.

David Duke to Hillary Clinton:

"You had me at White Americans."

All this talk of "nabbing" superdelegates always makes me think of a big car screeching to a stop beside a superdelegate walking down a sidewalk, guys jumping out of the car, throwing a big sack over the head of a superdelegate, throwing around a couple of turns or rope, shoving the delgate into the back of the car and roaring off to a secure undisclosed location where several other superdelegates sit bound and gagged.

(Oops. I shouldn't have said that. Now I'm imagining Hillary asking Ickes "ya think that'd work?")

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Hillary asking Ickes "ya think that'd work?"

Ickes replies "ya, hill, they're in the bag."

[rim shot]

That's Plan X, the one before the Nuclear Option gets exercised.

Gotalife hasn't been the same since Tuesday. Neither have the others. Where, for example, is f'ing dembillc, or whatever he calls himself.

Gotalife actually pretended to try to climb on board for about 5 minutes. He wrote "Go Obama" in one post.

He's returned to trolling, because otherwise no one pays any attention to him.

So I present this alternative to you. I think that trolls - commenters who just try to bait others and who always say more or less the same crazy things - should be banned. I think if they were gone the rest of you would enjoy yourselves more, and engage in more intellectual debate.

That's one possibility. But the other possibility is, this isn't really a place for true debate. Conversations can't really be typed, and true intellectual sustenance cannot be doled out in narrow columns.

Therefore the trolls here are for entertainment. They stimulate people to get off witty puns (well, not that goddamn witty), and they facilitate commenters' forming friendships. And therefore they should be banned, in this alternative as well; because they are not doing their job anymore. We need to motivate them. I think that if gotalife were banned, he would come back again and again in some thinly disguised form. Same for the rest of them.

In order to get them to do their jobs, which are similar to the job performed by grains of sand inside an oyster, we need to kick their asses off this board. Either that, or "Better Trolls!"

Wile E. Coyote dropped her brand new Acme Power Point Anvil, but at the very last second, the Road Runner veered off to gobble up five more super delegates, and then speed ahead. Meep. Meep.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

Wilber Lee Jeffcoat, the Democratic Party Vice Chair in South Carolina and superdelegate endorses Barack Obama.

Apparently the previously undeclared add-on superdelegate from NM has endorsed Obama as well. Once it's confirmed by DCW, that's 3.5 down.

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