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Obama Hits McCain For "Schoolyard Taunts"
Earlier today, John McCain responded to Obama's criticism of him for not supporting Jim Webb's 21st Century G.I. bill by saying: I served in the military; you didn't.
Here's Obama's response:
"I am proud to stand with Senator Webb and a bipartisan coalition to give our veterans the support and opportunity they deserve. It's disappointing that Senator McCain and his campaign used this issue to launch yet another lengthy personal, political attack instead of debating an honest policy difference. He should know that this is not about John McCain or Barack Obama -- it's about giving our veterans a real chance to afford four years of college without harming retention. Senator Webb's bipartisan bill will do this, and the bill that John McCain supports would not. These endless diatribes and schoolyard taunts from the McCain campaign do nothing to advance the debate about what matters to the American people."
This is about the people impacted by our policy decisions, "not about John McCain or Barack Obama," he says -- trying to strike at McCain's effort to make the G.I. bill debate about his war heroism.
The McCain campaign, of course, will try to make the conversation all about his bio for the next five months.
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I'm soooo not looking forward to the nine page essay that will be the McCain campaign's response.
May 22, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dayum!
Dude's got crazy skills!
May 22, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
You got it Zonk!
May 22, 2008 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama needs Webb on his ticket to prevent this GOP onslaught about Obama's lack of military experience!!!
OBAMA/WEBB '08
May 22, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely! The more I learn about and listen to Webb, the more he seems to be the perfect fit. He was on Olbermann last night and I got that 'tickle up my leg'. And I had no idea he'd written a book about the Scottish-American history of the Appalachians. It just sealed the deal for me.
May 22, 2008 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
NO he doesn't. I would be happy for Webb to be on the ticket (though that puts us even further back from 60 votes or a working majority in the Senate) but having Webb on the ticket will do nothing to blunt the stupid and disgusting attempts at smearing Obama for not being the military. I posit that doing so actually highlights what you think is a weakness for the GOP.
Bush served in the military and started the war in Iraq... so much for military service being worth spit when it comes to having the judgment or qualities needed to be a good POTUS and exercising sound policy and judgment in using our armed forces.
I would also note that FDR never served in the military and he seemed to do a pretty good job during WWII and Lincoln never served (and served less time in elected office before becoming President and he seems to have been pretty effective as CinC during the Civil War and gotten himself carved on Mt. Rushmore for it.
Not saying Obama is destined to be an addition to Mt. Rushmore, but the notion that one has to have served in the military (besides not being a requirement according tot he Constitution) simply doesn't hold water.
May 22, 2008 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
co-sign
May 22, 2008 6:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is going to have to be a grassroots effort to fight media bias for McCain. This means blogs, YouTube, emails, publishing the truth about the plasticity of McCain.
McCain has established a disturbing pattern of misusing his role as a lawmaker by creating laws and loopholes that benefits lobbyist, his friends (only the rich and powerful), his family, and indirectly benefit him.
McCain has consistently demonstrated throughout his political career that he is guilty of double-speak. He consistently attempts to appease whatever audience he's standing in front of at the time.
In a string, spanning decades, of McCain engineered land swaps benefitting "his friends", Rob Smith, director of the Sierra Club's Arizona affiliate states, "When the public trust intersects with private interests, basically, he (McCain) has favored land development . . . in every case,"
Rob's statement can be applied to all of McCain's grandstanding. McCain is an accomplished "Pretender", and all these land swaps, the flip-flops, the McCain-Fieingold bill that birthed the 527’s, the loophole laws demonstrate that upon closer scrutiny of his political life, McCain, dumber than Bush-43, is just plain scary. Per those Viet Nam Vet who spent time at Hanoi Hilton, McScary eagerly broke The Code and told the enemy about his dad to get special medical treatment, eat oranges, cookies, drink tea, and get interviewed while he gave away military strategy. Survivor – yes. Hero – no. He’s milked his POW celebrity status too long, saying one thing and consistently voting against bills that support the troops.
McCain graduated 3rd from the bottom at Naval Academy, not ready for prime time in 2000 and past his prime in 2008 - - clueless on the economy, foreign policy, flip-flops, double-speaks, extremist and flawed spiritual advisors, close ties and friends with unscupulous lobbyist - - at best he’s an enigma and at worse he’s the 16 personalities of Sybil.
May 22, 2008 9:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. One of the best things about the Obama campaign is that it seems to totally reject the mentality that there are "safe" choices that will avoid Republican attacks. (Max Cleland, anyone?)
Right-wing attacks, especially on national security and military matters, are completely dishonest, and even if you choose a person or a path that there's no rational basis for attack, it won't stop them.
How you respond to attacks is important. Trying to maneuver to avoid them is a sucker's game.
May 22, 2008 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bush being a member of a Texas Nat'l Guard Unit that flew outdated fighters hardly qualifies him as an active duty member of the armed forces. Nonetheless, Bush's placing us in this position has noting to do with his military service. As for Military leaders making good presidents, we've had a few, Truman, Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt, they aren't all bad. Bring back a national service draft, we'd settle this stuff immediately.
May 23, 2008 12:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't disagree. But we have to remain factually accurate.
May 23, 2008 3:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have my fingers crossed that he'll pick Webb too!!!
May 22, 2008 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
hit him with the chair, as we used to say.
May 22, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good response. I like how Obama highlighted that Webb's bill had bipartisan support. I also like how Obama's response is brief and calm, while McCain's original release was basically a long-winded rant.
May 22, 2008 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
...and in terms short enough for soundbites yet easy to understand and convey the message.
Every time McCain opens his mouth, Obama slaps him down. This is getting to be fun to watch.
May 22, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
You'd think that it might occur to McCain that the biggest thing harming retention would be that endless war he's so in favor of.
May 22, 2008 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. They've "failed to retain" at least 4,000 now, right?
May 22, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
You really shouldn't have gone there. That wasn't Jeppy's point and could easily be misconstrued by someone who is unfamiliar with you as speaking ill of the soldiers who lost their lives in this tragic war. I assume that wasn't the case.
May 22, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
On the contrary, it's speaking ill of the morons who sent them there unnecessarily and support keeping them there.
Just so it's on the record, I have the highest regard for the men and women serving in our armed forces. I've a son in the U.S. Navy.
May 22, 2008 6:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was referring to the soldiers attempting to leave the service because they didn't want to join the 4000+ you were referring to.
And let me add my respect to all those in the Armed Forces. That includes a few members of my family as well. Let's give them a CiC who treats them a better than Bush.
May 22, 2008 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
You mean someone stupid might think that?
How in the fuck can it be construed to reflect negatively on the soldiers that their leaders are abusing and wasting their sacrifice?
If anything, that kind of "thinking" implies some pretty disturbing projection.
May 22, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Endless diatribes" and "schoolyard taunts"...them's fightin' words!
I am so enjoying seeing a candidate stand up and call BS when it's appropriate.
May 22, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remember the halcyon days after NC and IN when we thought we could concentrate on Obama kicking the crap out of McCain every day until November instead of "watching his '6'" from interparty bullcrap.
Sigh...
May 22, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
*snicker*
Obama is getting good at this. This is really like watching a good tennis match (only more interesting - and I like tennis.)
This is going to be good to watch. I have to say this election cycle has been the best reality show. Ever.
I just hope that the MSM covers this stuff fairly. Of course that would assume they have people with intelligence in the MSM.
May 22, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good tennis match?
This is more like watching me lob underhand serves to a roided-up Arthur Ashe and getting smacked in the face with the returns.
May 22, 2008 7:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Which would be no less awesome to watch.
May 22, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sweet! Obama once again smacks John where it hurts! "Schoolyard taunts"....I feel John's pain here...
Obama ..not this time....not now...not again..and not for at least 8 years!
May 22, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, notice how McCain tries to focus this issue on Obama and not Webb. Kinda hard to have a public spat with a vet like Webb -- look how well that worked for Bush in their famous meet and greet at the White House after the midterms.
FWIW I listened to Terry Gross' Fresh Air interview with Webb earlier this week, and it really sounded like he is not interested in the veep slot; more interested in being a Senator in the mold of Daniel Patrick Moynihan. At any rate, well worth a listen as Gross always asks intelligent questions.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90595861
May 22, 2008 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the link. Don't they all have to seem like they don't want the slot? He referenced his predilection for bottom up governing...
May 22, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lame and weak.
May 22, 2008 6:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
You or McCain?
May 22, 2008 6:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why does he have to choose?
May 22, 2008 7:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. Both and I would say.
May 22, 2008 9:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
John McCain comes off sounding like a snob on this one. I have tremendous respect for career military people, but it's as if he looks down on people who don't re-enlist. Our first President, George Washington, certainly didn't think of himself as better than others because of his military service. But John McCain has repeatedly used his military service to deflect valid criticisms of his policy.
One might even call him "elitist" for his position on those who enlist but then leave for a second career.
May 22, 2008 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
"But John McCain has repeatedly used his military service to deflect valid criticisms of his policy."
That's because that's pretty much ALL that's on his resume. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he's been in the military and then used his POW story to springboard him into public office. It's like Biden's joke about Giuliani: "A noun, a verb, and 911...". I think the same can be said for McCain.
May 22, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has made his supposedly more mature and experienced adversary seem utterly immature and childish.
May 22, 2008 6:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Translation: John McCain is a Republican troll
May 22, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
ROFL
Aye and indeed, Herr Blinkerblousen!
May 22, 2008 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
best collar joke EVER
May 23, 2008 2:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Where was McCain when the Republicans were mocking wounded vets by wearing those disgusting "purple heart" bandaids at the last Republican convention?
Where was McCain when wounded vets were being made fun of and the Repukes were acting like AWOL George was more of a vet than Kerry or Max Clelland, who lost both legs and an arm in Nam?
Where was McCain when the Walter Reed scandal hit?
McCain has never stood up for vets unless it has served his political purpose and that needs to be said.
One more thing: after starting the deadly fire on the USS Forrestal in the Gulf of Tonkin in 1967, McCain got out of his jet alive and left the burning deck of the carrier, while his fellow crewmen went rushing back to the deck to try and save their crewmates who were burning to death, McCain left the deck and was transferred off the ship with the first of the wounded, probably to keep his ass safe from his fellow crewmen. He was, after all, an admiral's son.
# of men burned to death on the Forrestal that day - 134
# of years collaberating with his captors - 5
40 years of milking the military for all it's worth - priceless
McCain - more destructive than Bush?
USN '77-'82
May 22, 2008 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Never never never forget the crowing glory of McLame's "career" :
After being tortured and hearing his comrades screams while they were tortured, he voted for allowing America to torture prisoners.
The single most immoral act I've seen take place in Congress probably ever.
May 22, 2008 6:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry but your assertion quoted is bullshit. McCain didn't start the fire on the USS Forestall CV-59 in 1967. It was another aircraft's ordinance (i.e. an unguided 5-inch Mk-32 "Zuni" rocket, one of four contained in a LAU-10 underwing rocket pod) mounted on a F-4 Phantom II, which accidentally fired due to an electrical power surge during the switch from external power to internal power. The rocket flew across the flight deck, striking a wing-mounted external fuel tank on an A-4 Skyhawk, either Aircraft No. 405 piloted by LCDR Fred D. White[1] or No. 416 piloted by future Arizona Senator, LCDR John McCain,[4] which were waiting to launch.
That is what caused the fire, explosions... and the resulting deaths and injuries.
McCain is an asshole for many varied and legitimate reasons and has no business being anywhere near the Oval Office (except if he was taking the public tour)_ but lying about his actions on the Forestall that day is bullshit. McCain acted not just properly, but yes even heroically that day.
Stop spreading outright lies.
May 22, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain and the Forrestal Fire
http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1055
May 23, 2008 12:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
And the point of that link was?
May 23, 2008 3:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bush served in the military? He went awol from a cushy guard spot, which he failed to show up for more often than not. and back then, the guard's weren't sent to war. Bush started that
May 22, 2008 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
John McBushCain in the schoolyard.
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:S0_VckM5UDyMOM:http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/fullmulletalchemist/nelson_ha_ha.jpg
May 22, 2008 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama using the term "schoolyard" is way dangerous. Just can't get away from that skinny little dude with his pants falling down running away as fast as he can. Not in comparison with, you know, that guy tied down to a cot.
May 22, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
O please!
ROFLMAO!
That immoral jackass who turned around and voted in favor to you know, strapping other prisoners to cots and - you know - torturing them?
That guy?
Puhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze.
May 22, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it's perfect. It paints McCain as a bully - which fits in nicely with all of the stories of him calling his wife that awful name (that I can't even bring myself to type)and all of his near fistfights in the Senate.
May 22, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Worst. troll. ever.
May 23, 2008 8:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
As some of you may have seen me say here in comments, we should expect an unceasing effort on the part of the McCain campaign and the media to try to somehow make this election about Vietnam, as every election for the past 40 years has been about Vietnam. That's why they brought up that weak-ass Bill Ayers "connection" in the first place - it was the first feeble attempt to try to move the playing field back to the only game they know how to play, which is: "let's fight about Vietnam some more, and how the dirty fucking hippie evil liberals stabbed us in the back and made us lose by leaving, cause otherwise we SO would have won". Besides racism and fear, it's the only trick in the GOP bag...they've never bothered to replace it or develop newer ones because they haven't had to. And the media? The media is clueless about how to cover any national political race through any lens other than Vietnam...again, because for 40 years, they've never had to. Anyone who knew anything about running or covering a race based on anything else has long since retired or died.
May 22, 2008 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
ooooooooooo, well put, Ms. Ark...
A President Obama will have broken the backs of both political parties at a time when the intertubes are coming of age. While the People's govt. may be broke (and not just in spots) the People themselves are on the move. This grass-roots campaign is utterly remarkable, and sets the new mold for the future, turning away zealots, war-mongers, and threatening letters from large donors. It even mortally wounded Bubbuh and Jane.
It's not teflon. It's armor.
Since McCain insists on the "you kids get offa my lawn" campaign strategy, Obama need only remain himself to sew it up, and handily. The bleeding in the Old Sooth has just begun.
And then the true test comes: what will an Obama DoJ do about the criminal enterprise currently posing as a presidency? We must demand a constututional lawyer enforce the full weight of the law.
Pax,
M.
May 22, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Very good point, JennofArk. This was covered (excellently, if I may say so), in a HuffPo blog about 3 weeks ago, about "Generation Jones", those people like me who were born between after 1963 but before "Generation X".
We don't think in terms of Viet Nam, the civil rights movement, etc. We don't make it part of our arguments, we don't remember it all that well. What we remember instead is the outcome of it all. It made for a lot of pretty cool and interesting and mind-opening childhood experiences, in my opinion.
May 22, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aye, I can only recall the aftermath. In 1973, you got 3 channels, and only two came in well. If a budding TV addict was going to do his lines, he watched Watergate hearings, thereby beginning Yet Another Addiction. No real political memories prior to that, except Nixon's landslide.
Now that people our age, such as Sen Obama, are coming into power, the wedge issues become more difficult to maintain with a straight face. And we really have had it with govt. Our votes are breaking the backs of both parties.
Pax,
M.
May 22, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I remember pleading with my parents to vote for McGovern ... They didn't ...
May 22, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
we ain't "generation jones"
we're "BLANKS"
as in "The Blank Generation"
we're way outnumbered by the boomers. we're totally disaffected by government. most of us don't vote, serve on juries. except for going to court and collecting unemployment and welfare, e don't interact with our government much
and malcolm maclaren bestowed our official title
THE BLANK GENERATION
1956 TO 1965
1966 TO 1975 ???
UBER-BLANKS (they're even less visable than us)
May 23, 2008 2:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Born 1964 here.
May 23, 2008 3:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
If there was an award for "Best Reaction Time Mixed With Best Response", Obama, and his campaign folks and advisers would win it. They are like a well-built, well-running machine. Like a BMW motorcycle.....you don't even hear it coming until it's passed you by.
May 22, 2008 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would have said, "Go yell at the clouds, old man." But that's one of the many reasons I'm not running for pres. Obama's response is spot on.
May 22, 2008 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Some say he betrayed his country as a POW.
Some say that
We know what he did to Pastor Hagee, not to mention all those loyal lobbyists he fired
Don't forget also that McShame betrayed the Episcopal Church, which baptized, confirmed and educated him
Now he's betrayed Veterans
May 22, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
He reminds me of a spirograph in which fully half the teeth are missing.
May 22, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's betrayed the veterans, alright.
The Repugs love the military - love it to death.
The Democrats and liberals hate the military - all we want is to keep the mofos alive and well, and to make sure they are cared for if they can't stay well, and to give them the opportunities when they come back that they gave up to go over there.
I just love warmongers. I'll never forget all the letters to the editor in the Dallas paper about 6 months into the war from old armchair warriors, safe in their houses, railing because the News dared to print the casualty numbers. I had no idea that "Patriotism" meant you didn't honor your war dead, but ignored them and pretended they never existed.
May 22, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
WHOA!
What's this?
The Field can now confirm, based on multiple sources, something that both campaigns publicly deny: that Senator Clinton has directly told Senator Obama that she wants to be his vice presidential nominee, and that Senator Obama politely but straightforwardly and irrevocably said “no.” Obama is going to pick his own running mate based on his own criteria and vetting process.
http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=1248
May 22, 2008 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, that has been posted several times now, so I need to know - how reliable is ruralvotes.com?
May 22, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sorry - The Field.
doh
May 22, 2008 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
love the field. al giordano rocks. he's like the atrios of this century.
May 22, 2008 9:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would love to have it be confirmed, in a way that can be published. Here is my reason.
If Hillary asked for the VP spot; then she has admitted that she can not win the presidential nomination. That would expose the fact that she is just being an obstructionist by continuing to run, after she has already conceded by asking for the VP spot.
Do you see how potent a weapon, in the court of public opinion that would be. It would force her to step aside.
May 22, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dammit. I've had a busy day and hadn't been online as much as normal. I just saw it over on Andrew Sullivan.
May 22, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I only hope it's true, Tena. And it does make sense. Things were quiet that week when all the feelers were being sent out and Terry McAuliffe was touting the "dream" ticket on national tv. And then it switched again and she went all pathological and take no prisoners again. True, she is pathological, but it seemed she was reacting to not getting the response she wanted to all the feelers. That's how it seemed to me anyhow. So that there was an actual personal approach made would make even more sense.
May 22, 2008 8:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Very.
Al G is very very respected and often cited by dailykos, huffington etc. Not that that instantly gives him cred but he is reliable.
May 22, 2008 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
alright, then - could it really be that she is just pissed off because she was rejected for Veep?
O that would be sweet. That gets around and she looks just like what she is - a woman scorned, as someone else said upthread.
May 22, 2008 8:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think there's a good chance that's probably the case. If the Clintons thought they already had leverage to get on the ticket, they wouldn't need the very public campaign to get there. (Mouthpieces like Lisa Caputo have seemed really, really desperate to push the VP thing the last couple days.)
They're trying to get that leverage, to be sure. And the MSM is working for her. (Not because of bias in her direction, I don't think, but because it's a story for them; and just imagine how much they must be salivating over the prospect of covering the intrigues of Bill and Hillary shadowing Obama in the White House.)
I think leaking the VP search stuff today was very smart. The media was still pushing the Hillary VP line, but they were also talking quite a bit about other possibilities.
May 22, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain's "schoolyard taunts" are coming across as if he were the last kid to be picked for kickball at recess.
May 22, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please!
These memories are still very painful for me!
May 22, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's give McCain a break. After all, the poor guy has nothing to run on, except his record as a POW in the Navy. He used to be a rather entertaining and occasionally free-thinking maverick, before he caponized himself winning the Republican nomination, proclaiming himself as the new Ronnie Reagan of the far, far right.
And now he's stuck in that role and can't figure out how to distance himself from the most hated president in history.
So give him a break, huh? He has to make some headlines, after all, or everyone will just see him as the frustrated grump he's become.
Or perhaps always was.
May 22, 2008 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hear hear! You go, Obama! You always seem to have the perfect response to any and every childish attack McCain brings against you. Keep it up!
May 22, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
God, what a difference between Obama's rapid and generally pitch-perfect responses to this kind of crap, and the lameness of Kerry's campaign. We haven't seen a candidate this skilled since, ironically, Bill Clinton.
May 22, 2008 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
You see, uhhh, what Senator McCain, whom I have nothing but the greatest respect for, uh, fails to understand about this particular piece of, uh, legislation, is that it was a bipartisan effort, in that it was, uh, sponsored by Senators from both parties, the, uh, Democrats and the Republicans and I think it's a very good piece of legislation and Senator McCain, whose opinion I respect, disagrees with that.
May 22, 2008 8:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really would like to hear from some Hillary supporters who were worried about him not being enough of a fighter. I knew all along that he was going easy on Hillary because she was a fellow Dem and once he got his hands on McCain we'd see a different Obama. I don't want to pay myself on the back but I do love being proven right on this particular issue.
May 22, 2008 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
From what I can tell, this is getting a good bit of uproar, especially from vets and military types. With his diatribe, McCain has brought attention to the bill and why he isn't supporting it. If there is one thing that your average joe (& joesephine) can agree on regardless of party affiliation is that our troops deserve to be treated with respect and taken care of.
I think this bill in particular and mccain's lack of support really shows him for the fraud that he is.
One more piece of info to fuel the slow burn of anger in this country.
If this keeps up, Obama will win big in Nov.
May 22, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oo goody!!!!!!
I'm loving this.
May 22, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is another data point of McCain taking the bait.
Remember his nutso response to Obama saying that Obama said that McCain seems to have "lost his bearings" and McCain went goofy and foamed-at-the-mouth about how terrible it was that Obama was attacking him over his age... ah, Mr. McCain, YOU are the one screaming about how old you are.
Now he is screaming that 'since Obama didn't serve, and Obama needs to shut up because he is calling me out for fucking over you vets on this bill'.
Who's side in that argument are vets going to take? (wry grin)
Way to go John McNugget.
May 22, 2008 9:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep.
Had he just made a brief statement in response to Obama about how there are many ways to get the same place and while he admires Webb and the substance of the bill, he disagrees with the implementation. While he agrees that we should support the troops, this is a difference in opinion in how to do so.
The story would have died there or at least not have been such a big deal. Instead, by having a mini-tantrum and insulting Obama, he put this on the radar.
I am not sure if Obama is doing this on purpose or it is just working out that way but Obama keeps poking McCain. It reminds me of when I used to pick on my little brother. I knew exactly how to get a rise out of him and get him in trouble with Mom & Dad. It never failed. (of course then my brother grew up and got a lot bigger than me - then I was sorry... but you get the point)
Starting the McCain meltdown watch...now.
May 22, 2008 11:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
McBush's response sounded more like a two year old temper tantrum. McHypocricy is living up to his name since he defended the chicken hawks in the white house who did not serve as well when they sent our brave soldiers to war.
May 22, 2008 9:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
NBC News reported tonight that McCain decided to hit Obama on his lack of military experience because Obama's comments "personally offended him". Suggesting that McCain is letting his emotional reaction to Obama drive his response strategy.
Is Obama getting under McCain's skin? If so, how long until we see McCain publicly blow a gasket?
May 22, 2008 9:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Methinks Obama will successfully invoke McSame's inner berserk for our youtube consumption.
May 22, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bank on it.
Obama is already making him jump like a dog with his nuts wired up to a garage door opener.
"Lost his bearings" --- (McCain's head explodes ... "I'm offended that he is picking on my age")
McBush will be dancing like a puppet on a string in a few months.
May 23, 2008 3:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Obama is already making him jump like a dog with his nuts wired up to a garage door opener."
LOL. Now that's an image I won't soon forget.
May 23, 2008 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here is a good statistic about friggin 'maverick' McCain. There were 3 senators that didn't vote on today's bill. 1) John McCain 2)Coburn (R-OK) and 3) Ted Kennedy
I have no idea about Coburn but obviously Kennedy had a good reason for not being there. So McCain and maybe Coburn were the only 2 that didn't have the guts to vote yea or nay. The nays are slime but at least they are slime that are willing to stand by their votes. Not only is McCain slime, but he is a weasel chicken-shit slime.
I hope McCain gets crucified over this. He deserves it.
May 22, 2008 11:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not that I'm one to come to the defense of the likes of Coburn, but he was at a funeral.
May 23, 2008 9:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bushie Repubs - Love the War - not so much the warriors.
Teddy K. had a note from his Dr., McCain too scared to be counted, or maybe got lost on the way to the Senate.
From HuffPo.
NAYs ---22
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennett (R-UT)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
DeMint (R-SC)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lugar (R-IN)
McConnell (R-KY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Voinovich (R-OH)
May 23, 2008 12:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Could McCain's response be any longer, jeez.......almost fell asleep reading it. If this is how the debates go, the man is over and out.
May 23, 2008 12:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain has won this round. We are all talking about Obama's response to his taunt.
Nobody is talking about the fact that except for Ted Kennedy (deathly ill) and Tom Colburn (I don't know) McCain is the only senator who chose not to vote on the Webb bill. This wasn't some procedural vote, it was McCain's chance to either stand with the veterans or with the Administration. Instead McCain cut and ran from his duty. He was just about the only senator to do so.
May 23, 2008 8:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's not true at all. Look up thread.
May 23, 2008 8:56 AM | Reply | Permalink