Obama Goes Up In Indiana With Second Ad Responding To Hillary's Gas Spot
The Obama campaign goes up on the air in Indiana with an ad attacking Hillary over her earlier spot attacking him for opposing a so-called "gas tax holiday."...
Obama already released an earlier response ad on the gas tax dispute. The Hillary camp is still up with their spot in Indiana and North Carolina.
As I reported yesterday, Hillary senior adviser Geoff Garin claims that the Hillary campaign's internal polling shows that her attacks on Obama -- should we call them "gas attacks"? -- are working politically.
The fact that Obama has a second response ad up suggests either that there may be something to this -- or that Hillary's backing for the gas tax holiday are backfiring for Hillary and that the Obama campaign is looking to maximize this.
"gas attacks"?
Now I'm laughing on Friday morning. Thanks!
May 2, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
No doubt.
The Clinton campaigns tactics do tend to stink, I guess this explains it.
May 2, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, and if you want to see something really funny check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8lvc-azCXY
May 2, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
OMG!! That is the best video ever. I love it. Make a reader blog with that link, nisleib! It made my morning. :O)
Thanks for sharing. I assumed it was the Indiana voters spot and almost skipped it.
May 2, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
As presented downthread by others, this next video is the pick of the day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_nQOHj__s
May 2, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
We need to air that in IN. Ha!
May 2, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
I meant to reply to the star wars one.
May 2, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why is that YouTube link no longer working?
May 2, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great video. Thanks for posting it.
May 2, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great video! I'm sending it to everybody I know!
May 2, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Send them this one as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_nQOHj__s
May 2, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, well, well. So his first response didn't have anything about a windfall profits tax. He added that to his second ad. What a jerk. Oh! Oh! Me, too. Windfall profits tax. Me too! Change! Honest! Believe in. And the first ad says: Hell, you folks don't need $30 bucks a month. And the audience laughing at folks who might need $30 a month. Catastrophe of an ad. Hillary ought to pay to run that one for him. Second is better. Steals her windfall profits tax and makes it look like it's his. I'll be canvassing in South Bend tomorrow. Going to be a pleasure to kick this one around.
May 2, 2008 10:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not 30 bucks a month. It's a maximum of 30 bucks over the summer. Total. And suggesting people would actually save that much is, to paraphrase Hillary "not in line with what Hillary knows to be true."
Besides, she's now promised to commit the windfall profits tax to TWO things. Vote for the liar if you want. But you're going to get a liar if she wins.
May 4, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Considering her campaign is all just hot air, no surprise we're seeing these gas attacks.
May 2, 2008 9:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Or that Obama thinks he's found a weak spot he can hammer her on. He's in a tough position though because he's got the burden of having to explain why it's a bad idea while Clinton just yells "FREE MONEY!" and dances around to Fleetwood Mac.
May 2, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yup. Which do you think they are going to choose, the economics lesson, or the "free" $30?
To keep up with Hillary, Obama needs to start throwing more bread, and staging more circuses.
May 2, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
So Clinton and Obama both tax windfall profits. But Clinton gives working families 30 cents a day off their gasoline bill. What exactly is wrong with that except that Obama got scooped? He's me tooing the windfall profits tax now, why not the gas tax holiday. Every little bit helps. It's about doing something instead of just talking about it. It's a real bill. Shows folks she cares. Sends a message. Now. What's wrong with that?
May 2, 2008 10:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
No. She doesn't. She promises them 30 cents a day in exchange for their vote, knowing that they'll never see the savings. There's no elasticity in gas prices. There's NO WAY retailers will pass any savings on to consumers. None whatsoever. Support her if you like, but stop acting like a freakin' schmuck.
May 4, 2008 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ahh, shameless pandering and attack ads, the sweet smells of Spring!
May 2, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Indiana voters: next time you hit a pothole and spill your coffee on your lap, thank Hillary for taking away the gas tax $ to fund the pothole repair...
May 2, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton's gas tax holiday would buy me about 1/2 tank of gas.
Yeah, that's going to make everything better.
May 2, 2008 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, you won't see a penny. The increase in demand ensures that prices will rise throughout the summer.
May 2, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's no way to win with this subject and headlines,
"Hillary's Gas Spot?"
I have to giggle...sorry...
Maybe "fuel" would be the better word.
May 2, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Sen. Barack Obama's break with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright is putting black pastors and their congregations in a difficult position, their loyalties divided between a politician who could be the first black president and a celebrated preacher who many believe has been vilified."
Unity? No.
Divisive? Yes.
His whole message is a lie.
Just like w.
May 2, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Cool avatar! Find it at hater.com?
May 2, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Go find us an expert that thinks the gas tax holiday is a good idea.
May 2, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
He can't, so what does he do? What he always does; yell, "Wright, Wright, Wright," as loud as he can.
The GOP trolls did the same thing with Rezko and Present. What they lack in intellect (and that is a lot) they make up for in repition.
May 2, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Can you ever, ever stick to the topic of the post? Like, can you tell us what you think of her ridiculous gas tax holiday which has been roundly criticized across the political spectrum? You are getting extraordinarily boring and, again, you need to cite the quotes that you post because otherwise it's plagiarism. No one wants to read the crap that you post and not know where it came from. Stop being a fraud and have some integrity, would you?
May 2, 2008 10:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
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May 2, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
My guess is that this is working for Hillary, and that's part of the reason why she's been polling better the last few days. I would bet that Wright has less to do with Obama's bad week, and that the 'gas attacks' (LOL) is the killer here.
As we all know, Hillary's plan is outrageously stupid and would hurt consumers while helping big oil. But I could see where it would be appealing to those voters who might not be as informed on this issue.
May 2, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have a hard time buying that because whenever it's referred to in the media, it's called out as political pandering.
May 2, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Agree. This is going to work against her.
May 2, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Off this topic, but why don't we have a post about the fact that Obama is besting Hillary nearly 3 to 1 on receiving donations from supporters previously backing the democratic challengers Biden, Dodd, Richardson, Edwards, etc] who've dropped out of the race? There is a link on the front page, but that is all. Seems to me that this matter is another measure of the relative support for Obama and Clinton.
May 2, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with you and I think that sounds important, myself.
May 2, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh yeah! I say, Obama/Biden'08!!!!!!
May 2, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
The fact that Obama has a second response ad up suggests either that there may be something to this -- or that the gas attacks are backfiring for Hillary and that the Obama campaign is looking to maximize this.
Wow, that's brilliant analysis! "The Obama ad means either one thing or its complete opposite."
May 2, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately the average American voter can be pandered to and bought. The tax holiday may be one of the dumbest ideas out there, but to the average Indiana voter all they hear is you are going to lower the price of gas. At this point they stop listening or thinking.
Let us hope the large number of undecided voters in Indiana are one with a brian break for Obama instead of Hillary.
May 2, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think they are as naive as you think they are.
I think Americans are generally suspicious of promises of something for nothing from politicians.
I honestly do.
May 2, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
BREAKING!!
Clinton Camp in '92: Indiana whites are "ShIt... worthless white n*ggers."
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/2/93316/53926/838/507664
May 2, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, they made zero fuss over "screw 'em", so I imagine this too will get pushed off to the side.
May 2, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
it's like there's bias or something
May 2, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
O. My. God.
Mickey Kantor, James Carville, George Stephinfechitolpoulos - what a trio of scum. Scum scum lying nasty scum.
You know what Carville said about one of the women who sued Bill for sexual harassment?
"Just drag a dollar bill through a trailer park and see what follows it - that's what she is."
May 2, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Even if this was in '92, can you imagine if anyone... ANYONE... in Obama's staff had called Indianans "white n*****s"?
Obama would be CRUCIFIED.
Will the media show this to the American people and let them decide?
Stay tuned...
May 2, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Stepin Fetchit, one of the few black entertainers to make it during a period when black actors had to play demeaning roles as bumbling, slow-talking, dim-witted, lazy "boys" who had to "step and fetch" and be subservient to and never "upstage" their white screen counterparts.
To have made a lasting and iconic career from something so limited, so negative and so demeaning is remarkable and to have been able to become a millionaire while doing so, in a time when most people would have earned just two or three thousand dollars -- if that much -- during the depression era.
Lincoln Theodore Monroe Andrew Perry -- the man's real name -- should not be lumped in with a two-bit part-time media shill and political operative or "scum." That is offensive to this unashamedly black American.
Please disparage Mr. Stephanopolous by associating him with someone else.
May 2, 2008 11:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just saw this...
Fuckin A diddy bag, Eric, Greg, do a piece on this, will ya?
May 2, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's going to be like the bank-crash scene from "It's A Wonderful Life" around TPM today... Josh, Eric and Greg watching the clock, waiting for Friday to end.
If this were broadcast to Indiana residents, her numbers would PLUMMET!
May 2, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree - this would be a huge scandal.
May 2, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
The good Kossacks at Daily Kos are sending the video out to all of the Indiana newspapers, to Drudge, to Ben Smith at the Politico, etc. It's up on YouTube and we have a few reader blogs about it, so here's hoping that it goes viral and by the weekend will be viewed by hundreds of thousands of people - many who are going to vote in Indiana's primary on Tuesday. ;)
May 2, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Does anyone have the YouTube address for this video?
May 2, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_nQOHj__s&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/2/93316/53926/838/507664
May 2, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_nQOHj__s
It doesn't seem to work if clicked on from TPM, another of TPM's cyber mysteries I guess. But if you copy and paste it into your bar it will take you there.
May 2, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't get too excited. Apparently, the video was altered - "those people are shitxxxx... in the white house."
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/02/972175.aspx
May 2, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
wow
May 2, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Soooooo tempting to run with this, but take the Obama Road.
May 2, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
watch this instead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8lvc-azCXY
SO funny.
May 2, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama should take the high road, while letting surrogates do the work. People in IN deserve to know the kind of people they are dealing with. If Hill wants to run on Bill's record, well there it is, in all its cynical glory.
I just listened to a story on the radio about Bill Clinton in NC, where poor white, rural voters still think he is their champion. What a crock.
May 2, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I kind of agree. I am conflicted on this. People should know what's being said, but on the other hand, Obama surrogates and Hillary surrogates eventually need to get along. That's my theme for the week. This sort of issue won't help with that if we use it to beat Clinton over the head.
Condemn Stephanopolous and the other idiot in the clip? For sure. But assume this is how Clinton herself feels? Eh...maybe not.
It will certainly make the town hall meeting interesting. I wonder if it will still happen?
May 2, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think this might be toxic if you get too close. If it's false (and that looks likely), then he gets hit over the head with it over and over whether or not it was is surrogates or himself. Best to let the MSM do what it will.
May 2, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
So much for Obama supporters wanting to get rid of the "politics of destruction." Obama and his supporters are showing their hypocrisy, and it's disgusting. How can you credibly say you want a united government when you are doing so much to tear our own party apart?
May 2, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's strange that you would post that here.
After being beaten over the head with endless, petty attacks from the Clinton campaign for the last few months, it is difficult to be civilized with a clip like this, and YET...Barack Obama hasn't said a word about it (nor will he), and the MSM hasn't either...and I am swallowing my disgust and suggesting that we as supporters should take the high road and not blame Clinton for a surrogate's comments.
So, what exactly are you criticizing?
May 2, 2008 11:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Holy crap... and George Stephenapoliar is in the vid.
Will this be something they discuss at Sunday's Happytime Town Hall?
May 2, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, this one is a twofer. Not only making people from indiana angry, but blacks as well. Think George is going to mention this when he does Hillary's town hall meeting on Sunday.
May 2, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah! What a perfect opportunity to talk about it, and to show the relationship George has had with the Clintons, and why he should not have been moderating a debate she was in.
May 2, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
George has totally lost my respect.
May 2, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ugh - he never had mine. I've always thought that he's a little weasel.
May 2, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
O yeah and if Obama had said this or someone close to him - it would already be headlines.
May 2, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
And running 24/7 on all of the cable news channels.
May 2, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
If we had Republican rules, we'd already have the gas tax holiday.
May 2, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Keep hitting her and hit her hard Barack! She has gone too far and this scheme of hers perfectly illustrates everything that is wrong with her:
http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/05/hillary-goes-after-democrats-in.html
Make her eat it.
May 2, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
She's really willing to follow this stupid issue off a cliff, isn't she? This might help her con some voters but in terms of winning the superdelegates - which, again, is the only way she'll win this nomination - it's not helping her at all. Any politician who took Econ 101 is watching this and shaking their head.
May 2, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Greg - thank you for qualifying what this might mean.
I really appreciate the fact that you worded it like you did - and I agree those are the two possible reasons.
Thank you.
May 2, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here here!
May 2, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sometimes Greg totally rocks.
May 2, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think we could have figured it out by ourselves, could we, Tena? ;)
May 2, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Response to STEMPER who said Hillary's plan is eliminating funds going into roads by eliminating the gas tax, She proposes to institute a windfall profits tax on the oil companies to pay for the taxes used for roads. McCain proposed eliminating the tax but not have the oil companies pay. (No surprise)). Some of the "experts are trying to have it both ways. They are saying elimnating the taxes will drive up demand because the prices will be lower, but also saying the oil companies will just increase the prices and take extra profits. Both cannot be true. Also, if they raise prices this money could also be subject to an additional windfall profits tax. Maybe a windfall profits tax is a good idea regardless of what happens. Nationalize the companies if they are trying to screw the people. Or, regulate them at a fixed 3% profit margin.
May 2, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
not that i think things are not screwed up, but what makes you think dry gas stations will make the problem better?
May 2, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary talks about a windfall profits tax like she's going to just snap her fingers and it's going to happen. From everything I've read, it's going to be incredibly difficult to get it passed as even several Dems are against it.
May 2, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
So what? It's not a good idea because the oil companies and dems in their pockets will oppose it? Good. Let them get on the record. Obama with them.
May 2, 2008 11:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
First, the Clinton campaign has already said that they could not commit or guarantee that the Senator would take a break from campaigning to return to D.C. to sponsor a bill for an oil company windfall tax.
Second, Congress has been talking about this for what the last six or seven quarters--every single time quarterly profit reports of oil companies have come out there's some stupid hearing and nothings been done.
Third, what guarantee is there that the windfall tax profit would equal or exceed the loss incurred from a gas tax holiday to fund our continuing work on infrastructure?
Finally, what evidence is there that gas prices will be static enough for families to really benefit from this? What evidence is there to guarantee increased supply so that gas prices could stabilize or even decrease? What would convince oil companies to not raise prices especially if a windfall tax bill actually passes? Don't you think the oil companies will try and pay for that tax by passing on the cost to consumers?
May 2, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/
Let's see, who do you really think is getting there first?
They're basically going to split the remaining 400 or so upcoming pledge delegates. (Yes, that's all that remain in the upcoming contests).
So that's a split of 200 each which is being slightly to generous Clinton.
That means Obama it left with 91 so to come from super dels but Clinton will need 221 or so.
Yo, gotnolife! What part of this makes you think Clinton has a chance?
Eric?
Greg?
There are approximately 50 - 60 super dels under the "wings" of Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid, ready to go in the same direction.
Which direction would that be? Hmmmmm.
This race has been over for 2 months already. The supers made a terrible mistake in not coming out right away for Obama after 11 wins out of respect for Clinton and hoping she'd do the right thing. They regret it now, I assure you. So because they delayed, missing their opportunity top shut it down then, they now can't just all come out for Obama out of fear that Clinton's lunatic base of supports, like gotnolife, et. al., will be the ones who bolt the party. So, they've been coming in in bits & pieces, but they keep coming out.
The 90 supers Obama needs gets less & less every day.
Her count remains the same, esp. as supers switch from her to him.
Have a good day everyone!
;-)
May 2, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Word.
May 2, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
May 2, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, and I mentioned this in another thread yesterday but here's the more complete quotation. Bloomberg's take on the gas tax holiday:
"It's about the dumbest thing I've heard in an awful long time, from an economic point of view. We're trying to discourage people from driving and we're trying to end our energy dependence ... and we're trying to have more money to build infrastructure.
"The 30 bucks is not going to change anybody's lifestyle," he said. "The billions of dollars that we would otherwise have in tax revenues can make a big difference as to what kind of a world we leave our children."
May 2, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Greg! I was all wrong about you yesterday! Forgive me? I looooove this ad!!!
May 2, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
The best part is, the average American will get less than $18 from her plan (according to recent estimates for a person driving 4,000 in the summer, which is high), and the oil companies? $10 BILLION!:
http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/05/hillary-goes-after-democrats-in.html
May 2, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Pfft, there's no way the oil companies would keep their prices the same in order to pocket those extra billions of dollars. They don't like money.
May 2, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
This gas tax holiday strikes me as one of those things that if implemented, we'd eventually hear how badly it hurt us. The state lottery here was supposed to save our schools. I don't know where the money is going, except to run the lottery -
Lowering prices for a little while isn't helpful, especially where once they go back up they will probably go higher.
Why not speak to the oil companies about their totally obscene profit margins?
May 2, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't that exactly what happened in IL, which is why Obama now knows how stupid the idea actually is?
Oh, but to Clinton supporters (and Bush) learning from past mistakes is called flip-flopping.
May 2, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
I know - and it's just so disappointing, it really is.
I honestly expected better out of the Clintons. I was that dumb.
May 2, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Big oil got their money's worth out of Obama.
We do not need another oil man in the WH.
May 2, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
You say that, but who's shilling for Big Oil right now? She wants to hand them a few billion dollars this summer.
May 2, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Its not so much that voters are stupid- is that politicians and the media have made them ignorant.
If you do talk to working people about an intelligent energy policy they will listen and they do get it.
The people who often refuse to listen are the better off, SUV driving political donors - they will not listen on energy.
By the the way the gas tax should never be described as tax since in reality a massive tax (accompanied by reduced taxes elsewhere)would drive down the price of the raw material in which case taxpayers would be saving money.
A lack of a proper gas tax has cost US consumers trillions of dollars, Wars etc. Lack of a massive gas gas tax is perhaps the stupidest policy since stupid policies created te great depression.
May 2, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
I could not agree more.
If we had been paying what they have paid in Europe all along, we would be so much better off right now. They always paid what it cost for the oil they used and we have never paid the whole price.
Gas should never have been $.35 a gallon.
Someone should have had some foresight - but hell, no one would have listened.
Our culture and economy are totally consumer based at this point and it's all about waste in ways no other country on earth wastes things.
Did y'all know that there is a plastic continent in the Pacific Ocean, that is bigger than the United States? True. It's made of milk bottles, and pop bottles and the rings from around coke cans and disposable diapers and trashbags and on and on and on. When I found out about this I just about died. I do not understand why countries haven't gotten together and cleaned this damn thing up - but where will the countries put the plastic?
I don't know that we are going to be able to pull this out. I think it may be too late.
May 2, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
What are you smoking? A tax drives down the cost of raw materials, perhaps you have been listening to too many politicians. Capitalism 101, supply and demand drives prices, taxes add to their cost and supply the government with revenue. Maybe this is why people support the gas holiday, really shows the importance of schools are to our nation.
May 2, 2008 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Holy Crap!
May 2, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Discovery - that's where I read about it, a couple of months ago right after I had the most amazing conversation with the man who manages my gas station. This is what I mean about Americans aren't dumb - his daughter is an oceanographer. She's the one who presented a very alarming report about 3 months ago to Congress - she has just been in Antarctica. Congress did not want to hear it and she told them she'd go public and did.
She was on the Today Show, he told me.
This man manages a service station. Americans are not what y'all sometimes think they are - they are smarter than y'all give them credit for. Same man lost his only son in Baghdad. I thought I hated Bush.
May 2, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama needs to borrow a page from the Republicans and re-name the "Gas Tax Holiday" a la "The Death Tax."
May 2, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Looks like Bambi is going to bite on this gas tax. This from the guy that voted for Dick Cheney's Energy Bill. Now they have him on record expect that ton of bricks to drop on him soon!
May 2, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
How does Hillary propose to win the general? By "me-tooing" every harebrained tax giveaway scheme McCain launches? By trying to be tougher on Iran than he and his neocon foreign policy advisers? By being as dirty as Rove?
All that is not only stupid, it can't be done. Voters who want to vote for a Republican are going to vote for a real Republican, John McCain, not Hillary Clinton. She can only drive up her own negatives with that garbage.
May 2, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton's gas tax crap is about like Bush's tax cuts. Useless.
I think that up here in northcentral/northwestern Indiana, people won't fall for those Clinton ads easily if he responds to them which is what he is doing.
Chocola, the old House member from the 2nd district, the South Bend area, tried to lie, lie, lie and lie to keep his seat in 2006 and Donnelly, their new House member called him on it every time. Chocola's ass was sent packing to come back to Bristol, Indiana and Donnelly got a free ticket to Washington DC.
I still think she will win in Indiana though. Southern Indiana you might as well call Kentuckiana. They will throw the election to Hillary.
May 2, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is also funny: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gOA7kjIaEiPUNTGf6aXuekaDrp_AD90CDUV02
May 2, 2008 10:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you - just for that picture of Barack and Michele where he's rubbing her back while she speaks to those people.
God I just love these people - they are human beings!
Look at the McWars - are those people human? Her face hasn't moved in 35 years at least.
May 2, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
So where is Hillary's economic plan that she supposedly has up her sleeve? Illinois tried this gas holiday, which Obama originally supported, and it was a complete disaster. Gas prices are based on supply and demand, and reducing taxes is not going to change that. Just do the math, if you used 20 gallons a week and taxes were suspended that is a whole $3.60 for a total of $43.20 for the whole summer. Quite the economic plan I have to say, not to mention the billions the government would lose in revenue. The only winner with the gas holiday is the oil companies and they don't really need any help, so GO OBAMA!!!
A side note, the idea that Bush is really an oil man is completely wrong. Your company has to actually make money in the oil biz to be seen as an oil man. Do people really still buy into his ranching, oil drilling, ahh shucks kind pf person? Guess so, must be that 28% we keep hearing about.
May 2, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Humm, anyone hear Clinton talking about the debates that didn't happen? That didn't quite stick, did it?
May 2, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Obama was doing to Hillary what Hillary is doing to him, he would air a commercial with Bill sticking his finger up the nose of the American people as he said "I didn't have sex with that woman Monica Lewinsky." Let's face, Hillary and her Swift Boat friends are doing the work of the Republicans for them, and this weekend one of her former employees, Stephanopoulos, is hosting a "town hall" meeting for her. It's clear that the Bush/McCain/Clinton Axis is piling on. When the Axis is that afraid of someone, it's clear that he's interested in doing the most good for the greatest number of Americans instead of serving his wealthy clients as Clinton and McCain are doing. Vote against the Axis. Vote for Obama.
May 2, 2008 11:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Another negative ad from Barack Obama, presented as a response to Hillary's negativity. But it's a negative ad just the same.
May 2, 2008 11:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
All experts on the issue, as well Nancy Pelosi and Mayor of NY.
M Bloomberg said this gas break during the summer was the most dumb thing he had heard for a long time...
I hope the voters can be explained that this is a stupid thing, but I guess they might just buy the Clinton gimmick...Like they belive Clinton is against Nafta or China...
May 2, 2008 11:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
This whole pathetic site speaks like true leftist commie pinko elitists and its fitting Obama is your guy. Gas is being manipulated by Wall Street NOT supply and demand. And for your info commies 35 dollars is alot of money to some people in America. But you don't care do you elitists? You silly people think the rich are going to elect the next president!! Your more like bush than you care to admit aren't you lol!! Bush has his base and Obama has his base in the elites.
May 2, 2008 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Commie pinko? Thats so 80s, don't you know the Berlin wall and communism both fell? Obviously living in your bunker you have missed what's going on in the world. As for the $35, not sure where you got that, unless your reading skills are a bit off. Finally, what truth are you attempting to hurt us with, your lack of economic understanding, whoo news flash wall street is based on supply and demand. Amazing you even found this site, must be listed on some neo-nazi, we hate everyone but our mom's website.
May 2, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
The truth hurts doesn't it? Slapped speechless. I love it.
May 2, 2008 2:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the pain is coming from your head while you are attempting to think above a 3rd grade level.
May 2, 2008 6:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton is going to introduce the Gas Tax Bill today!?!?
How many of her colleagues need to say it's a stupid fucking idea before she gets the hint.
May 2, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gee isn't it funny how them educated elitists always vote and grouse against their own interests?
Oh, wait, that's supposedly the blue-collar workers. My bad.
An excessive profits tax has been the norm since wars were instituted.
It's a bad idea now, why?
May 2, 2008 11:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't have a problem with the windfall tax. In fact, I think it's a good idea. However,
1, I see the chance of a windfall tax getting passed on the oil companies while Bush and Cheney are in charge about as likely as purple polka-dot pigs flying. Particularly in the next 28 days.
2, Using it to fund the highway fund, even if it could be done, seems like circular logic to me, particularly if the cost of gas is going to end up back at the equilibrium point anyway, as many economists are predicting.
If we're really trying to help people out, it seems the proposals Senator Obama had made as to how the windfall tax money would be spent would be better.
May 2, 2008 11:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is not a good ad because it fails to point out that Hillary's plan would save consumers nothing, and would cost them millions in lost infrastructure repair funding. It's not a good ad because it doesn't attack Hillary strongly enough. If I had written the ad, the last line would have been: "Hillary Clinton--too fucking stupid to be president."
I think that would have been much better.
May 4, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink