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News Orgs Instantly Project Big Win For Hillary In West Virginia
As expected, the news networks all called West Virginia for Hillary Clinton as soon as the polls closed -- meaning her win is likely to be by a very wide margin.
It's unclear how much this will change the fundamental delegate math. After all, the state only has 28 pledged delegates in total. That said, the Clinton campaign will likely use this as an opportunity to change the perceptions surrounding Obama's electability, and as a tool in their effort to sway the remaining super-delegates and generate a media narrative of momentum.
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Oh noes!
May 13, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not unclear. It will have no meaningful impact on the delegate count. Obama picked up 27 super delegates since last Tuesday. There are only 28 delegates at stake tonight.
The math is pretty simple.
As far as the Clinton spin goes, it's pretty meaningless, unless you are going to go with the counter spin that her crushing weakness with African-Americans makes her unelectable.
That said, congratulations Senator Clinton on a commanding victory tonight. 5 primaries to go before you return to the Senate.
May 13, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't care if HRC wins, even by a large margin - it doesn't change anything. My only problem with this is having to listen to the Baghdad Bobs of the Clinton campaign -McCuliffe, Wolfson & Davis spewing their BS for another week.
Hillary is going to be the nominee! Anything can happen! White hard working people won't vote for Obama! Stupid people won't vote for Obama!
May 13, 2008 7:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
The easy solution is to watch the NBA playoffs.
May 13, 2008 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Go Pistons!
May 13, 2008 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Screw that.
Go Cavs!
May 13, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Go Red Wings!
May 13, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yikes!
Exposed as a Blue Jackets fan!
May 13, 2008 11:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meh, I am a Bucks fan (no throwing of objects please) so it is too depressing to watch. Maybe I will jsut catch up on summer movies. I hear Ironman is worth the popcorn and Speed Racer is good if you are really drunk.
May 13, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish the Cavs had Michael Redd....
May 13, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
go bucks, and yes, Iron Man is worth it.
May 13, 2008 8:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I second your take on Ironman.
May 13, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or the NHL playoffs. :-)
May 13, 2008 8:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary promises to establish a nationwide education program based on the West Virginia model. She will call it:
Every Child Left Behind.
Congratulations to Hillary on her victory in West Virginia.
Dressing up in her Annie Yokely Buckskin Pandersuit appears to have paid off.
May 13, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ahhh,Liam , I loves ya so. You always makes me smile.
May 13, 2008 8:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder how the coverage affects the Kentucky primary. If she wins 2-1 and the news reports focus on the racist and nativist claims made by several West Virginians (as many newscasts/sites have during the day), does that make Kentuckians rethink their vote? Despite the new White Guys Love Hillary meme, does Kentucky decide that race isn't an issue and won't define the state?
Thoughts?
May 13, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you mean the racists rethink their vote? Or the non-racists switch their vote just so their state doesn't look backward?
May 13, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
The non-racists actually vote or switch their vote. The undecides decide to make a statement that their state would elect a black president. Just a thought.
May 13, 2008 8:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree actually. I think there will be a few people who change their vote or go and vote in order to try and change the perception of their state. However, I doubt it will be anything significant.
May 13, 2008 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a native Ohioan knowledgeable of the demographics of both KY and WV, I wouldn't be holding my breath. Now KY does have Louisville, but it's as Appalachian as WV, western PA and SE Ohio.
Obama will run better in KY, but he'd be very lucky to get close to 40% there.
May 13, 2008 8:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
[\exhaling\]
May 13, 2008 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just trying to clairify something...is any white guy who doesn't vote for Obama now a racist? Can West Virginians prefer one candidate over another without being racist? Is South Carolina a racist state because they backed Obama overwhelmingly?...or is it only the "white racists" that have become the bane of the "New Democrat's" Big Tent party?
May 14, 2008 9:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yawn.
I'm not even watching MSNBC. First time all primary season.
May 13, 2008 7:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I turned off MSNBC's coverage last evening once I heard Pat Buchanan express his delight that West Virginia will "rejoin the Confederacy" with today's vote . . . and nobody picked up on it.
When is somebody going to pension off that antideluvian jackass?
May 13, 2008 9:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good luck with that.
May 13, 2008 7:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
For some quality snark, check out this post from Jed Report on Daily Kos:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/13/163154/935/693/514928
May 13, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Congratulations Senator Clinton, WV and KY abet you to exit on a high note.
Anyways, Who is a bigger dick between ABC's George and Gibson?
I cracked the code, it's Gibson- atleast tonight.
Here is a paraphrased conversation between Goerge Stephnapoulis (sp?) and Charles Gibson
Gibson: This loss raises questions regarding Obama's ability to win White blue collar voters. It's a problem, isn't it?
Goerge: That's what Senator Clinton will argue and that's why Obama is in MO and MI tommorow to specifically appeal to that demographic.
Gibson: But just campaigning is not enough isn't it. He is not winning, just not winning.
When did a white voter for WV became representative to white voters across America? True assholes.
May 13, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
To are SO devastated Clinton isn't the nominee they can't think straight.
It's actually shocking watching these two buffoons stumble over each others' ignorance.
May 13, 2008 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
The most surprising part of that anecdote is that someone was watching ABC for political coverage.
May 13, 2008 8:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
And we thank Kash from the bottom of our hearts for doing it, so the rest of us don't have too.
May 13, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know. I feel filthy. I was flicking through the channels and it was an accident...believe me..lol...anyways...will take a shower or something...lol
May 13, 2008 8:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Luffa?
O'Reilly's got one.
May 13, 2008 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
AND, they even talked about the fact that Obama was wearing a flag pin in Missouri. Oh, those ABC boys, so smart and perky! Just gotta love 'em.
May 13, 2008 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's be clear: West Virginia is a completely anomalous state. It is no more an "electability test" than Arkansas or Oklahoma -- two other states which Hillary won by Mack-wide margins -- were electability tests.
May 13, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely Nailed it.
May 13, 2008 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup, old, white, uneducated people love Hillary.
May 13, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
West Virginia crushes Obama and spit out the kool aid.
Better make her VP to win these States.
Clinton with cheney power.
Karma.
Keep the WH for at least 16 years.
May 13, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton couldn't win this state if she spent her entire 100 million+ and two years running in the state.
Stop deluding yourself.
May 13, 2008 8:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nothing has changed. She'll be back in the Senate in less than a month representing the great state of New York.
May 13, 2008 8:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
How come everything you write sounds like a Nostradamus quatrain? Could you at least attempt a complete sentence?
May 13, 2008 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
And she who traveled once to the lands of the Dalmatian shores leaped from arrows of the Zouaves, shall in her time know the defeat of the moonbeam in nineteen and seventy-six.
May 13, 2008 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
ROFLMAO!
May 13, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
ack... the "arrows of the" and the "Zouaves" are separate links. Should have not included "of the" within the tag for the first one.
May 13, 2008 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fucked that up too.
arrows
and
http://freethesaurus.net/s.php?q=sniper
Damn. I really wish TPM's commenting system had preview (among other standard commenting features found in real website CMS software).
May 13, 2008 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Either way - it was still fricking hilarious.
May 13, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks.
May 13, 2008 11:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Per usual, Racism is alive and well in the Mountaineer state.
May 13, 2008 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chris Matthews called her the Al Sharpton for white people.
May 13, 2008 8:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's hilarious! I can't believe I missed it - I just turned the channel.
May 13, 2008 8:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Chief White Woman in America wins the primary in one of the whitest states in America.
Hail to the Chief White Woman. (When she enters a room they play Bobbles, Bangles and Beads instead of Ruffles and Flourishes.)
The math though doesn't know the Chief White Woman from Adam.
The math says we're just 142 (including the 9 projected delegates he'll get tonight) from winning...
Does anyone other than Tuzla Terry -- aka Baghdad Bob -- believe she's winning? I'm waiting for McAuliffe's head to fly off and spin on the floor like a top. Wobble wobblewobble and she's down.
May 13, 2008 8:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, out down the cool aid whiners!
Cheney VP power!
The dems!
McSame!
....GL - wanna help me out here - there's one I'm missing?
Oh - NO LEADERSHIP!
Hey - this is pretty easy to get a handle of.
May 13, 2008 9:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think gotalife would agree with me that the both of us are all about the Cheney power!
May 13, 2008 9:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
You mean like the margin Obama had in NC where they called it the second the polls closed? I just fail to see how this is that big of a deal, she can't make up that much tonight even when she wins by a sizable margin...
May 13, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh for fuck's sake. Stop being so stupid and sloppy with your MSM style reportage about this. It doesn't change the math at all. Obama, not Clinton will secure the nomination by June 3rd, just as it was the case last week, and the week before, etc.
The only thing that might fluctuate is the way idiots report this as if there is any race left to really be decided and the furious spin from a campaign that is desperate and blocked out of any viable path to winning in trying to keep the attention on the absurd proposition she can still turn it around.
Stop it.
May 13, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well said!
IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE DELEGATE MATH AT ALL.
Some people are still clinging.
May 13, 2008 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eric's spin on the math being unclear is like a bizarro-world echo of the line from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy writ large:
Where in Eric's imagination there is some unclear, unresolved question as to how much the "big" win in West Virginia will somehow damage the delegate math of Obama's bulldozer.
May 13, 2008 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL.
Or a Three Stooges skit (Eric, Greg & Hillary's Campaign).
May 13, 2008 8:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Say hello to Kleefeld's continuing terrible analysis of the primaries.
May 13, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
What on earth do you mean "it's unclear how this changes the delegate math?".
It's perfectly clear that it doesn't change it at all. Everyone has predicted this win and Obama beat Clinton about 20 to 2 in superdelegate declarations over the past week.
I expect this kind of shallow horse race crap when I watch MSNBC or read CNN, but the whole point of the blogosphere is that it's supposed to be a bit smarter than this.
The reporting on the race has become no different than reporting on Evolution: two sides with an "equal" say, and no one willing to tell the one side that they've just been making shit up for months (or decades) on end.
Crimony.
May 13, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually Obama picked up 27 super delegates. Plus he picked up an additional two delegates out of Ohio after they completed the provisional ballot count.
The math hasn't changed. She's still 160+ delegates behind.
May 13, 2008 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Poor Charlie Gibson, he really is empty upstairs, isn't he?
May 13, 2008 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great minds, Lestatdelc.
May 13, 2008 8:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Only 2 to 1?
What a lame victory, I was expecting 3 to 1 or even 4 to 1.
Onward to Oregon!
May 13, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly.
what happened to 80 to 20, or 90 to 10?
Inquiring minds need to know!
May 13, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
The only thing that bothers me is that the talking heads will roll with that, even the ones that clearly know it's BS. When this election is all over, the one true loser (other than the public) will be the reputations of so many of these MSM talking heads, analysts and pundits. Their crass eagerness to continue to stir this pot long after it has lost its boil really has left a sour taste in my mouth.
May 13, 2008 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not on NBC - When they broke in both Brian Williams & Tim Russert were very clear that this hasn't done much - cut only 10 extra delegates from Obama's lead.
May 13, 2008 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
You said you weren't watching!!! You addict.
May 13, 2008 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm NOT - It interrupted NBC for an update Between shows!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:-P
May 13, 2008 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Congratulations to Senator Clinton.
May 13, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
You set a fine example for the Obama, kool aid drinking, Clinton hating, it is all about Obama, me generation.
Too bad they will not follow your lead.
May 13, 2008 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry gotalife. The "me generation" is the boomer/Reagan demographic as they left the 60s and entered the 70s.
May 13, 2008 8:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gotalife is right - I DISPISE the hate of the Obamianacals! Death to all extremists!
May 13, 2008 9:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fixt!
May 13, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you! That sentence popped right out at me when I first read it.
May 13, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eric - It is NOT unclear. It DOES NOT change the delegate math in any measurable way.
Tim Russert: She'll net maybe 10. He net 27 this week alone with Supers.
May 13, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well well Hillary got those White Working Class votes like we knew she would - what a surprise.
I heard while I was in Taos that Barack is ahead in SDs - is that right?
And hi guys :)
May 13, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now that is funny!
May 13, 2008 8:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
He took the superdelegate lead in all of the counts either today or yesterday. He picked up 27 since last Tuesday, 1 shy of the delegates at stake tonight.
In other words, nothing has changed by today's results.
May 13, 2008 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome back Tena. Yes 27 delegates in one week ahead by about 10 supers. Watch out a few more his way to appease Hillary's WV show.
May 13, 2008 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. Obama is now ahead by 12.5 in SDs. He is ahead by 165.5 in pledged delegates and Clinton will cut into that by at most, 10 because of tonight.
So even if Clinton nets a whopping 10 delegates out of WV. IN the last 72 hours she has actually lost ground in overtaking Obama's delegate lead by 1.
May 13, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome back!
May 13, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome back, Tena!! Missed you! ;)
May 13, 2008 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Switching over to Beloved Sockpuppet Mode for a moment so you'll recognize the Warm Welcome Back.
You did miss a wonderful bit by the inimitable Mort Saul while you were gone that I thought you might appreciate. He summed up the race as Senator Clinton playing a doting mother figure, wondering why you'd ever want to leave home, while Senator Obama was the tall dark + handsome newcomer with a vision of the world beyond that old house, come to sweep the voter away. "But Mama - I Love Him!"
Classic Mort that I'm certainly doing no justice to - if I find it on YouTube I'll post a link.
Welcome Back :)
May 13, 2008 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hurray! Welcome back to one of our favorite Texans. :)
May 13, 2008 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome back, Tena!
And on such a glorious day for the waning Clinton Campaign, too.
Please give a hearty congrats to our friend, GotALife. You know, he has so few of these celebratory moments. :(
May 13, 2008 11:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama may be bought and owned.
Today Clinton owned Obama.
On to Kentucky.
May 13, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
How's the Obama Hate-fest going at Taylor Marsh?
May 13, 2008 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Zzzzzz....Yawn....
What? Huh? Did you say something? I just hear this vague buzzing like a fly or an annoying mosquito - and about as much substance.
May 13, 2008 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
You mean like this?
Blah, blah, blah, blah, comeback, blah, blah, blah, not over, blah, blah, blah,...
May 13, 2008 11:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Out here on the intertubes thing its: PWNED!
May 13, 2008 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I find your avatar and your play on 'bought & owned' wording despicable.
It's NOT funny.
May 13, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
holy shite, is that intentional?! if so... who's got the digital brain sanitizer?
May 13, 2008 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's got to feel good supporting a candidate whose success depends on antipathy towards black people.
May 13, 2008 8:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Have no fear, while Clinton and you are short-stroking it over West Virginia, Obama is busy drinking your milkshakes in the delegate count, popular vote, states won, and who will be the Democratic nominee.
Obama has already gained more delegates than Clinton will win tonight this past week, and Oregon will more than offset Kentucky next week.
May 13, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Holy fuck I love the milkshake reference... 10 points.
May 13, 2008 9:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay... Gotta do it...
While she was over there in the big states, focusing on winning those, we sat in the small states and drank her milkshake! We drank it up!
Not that I like the comparison, per se, but it seems fitting at the moment.
May 13, 2008 10:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
DRAAAAIINNNAAAGGEEE... gotalife, you BOY!!
May 14, 2008 1:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Excuse me?
We outlawed slavery in the 19th century.
May 13, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nothing like a little light-hearted talk about black people being bought and owned!!
May 14, 2008 2:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
(I was being sarcastic.)
May 14, 2008 2:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Did anyone see Chris Matthews call Hillary "the Rev Al Sharpton of white people" just now on MSNBC? that was hilarious.
May 13, 2008 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Considering the demographics of WV (age, race, etc.), all the exit poll data, and the lack of campaign presence in the state, I'm starting to wonder how Obama is poised to pull off 30% of the vote? I'd say 1 out of 3 ain't bad here. Is this at all worth a mention?
May 13, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ahem - I certainly think so.
May 13, 2008 8:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, yeah, yeah it is all about Obama.
I disagree. It is about gaining a larger Dem majority and Dem President in the long term. Say 16 years or more.
See, w has screwed our country so bad, it will take longer than 16 years to get back in the right direction.
No, it is not all about Obama.
I think long term and what is best for the country.
May 13, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
We are all thinking long term, you seem a little too preoccupied with your Hate of All Things Obama.
May 13, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
For once I actually agree with you.
Which is why -soon - you should stop your trolling and get behind the dem nominee whether you agree with him 100% or not.
There are serious stakes at hand and Clinton has lost. If you and your fellow Clintonistas can't get over your pique soon, welcome to 100 years in Iraq and an economy in the shitter.
May 13, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
If we're going to be theoretical about it, how about this vision for the longterm... an electorate that doesn't EXCLUDE based on race or gender? a political party that stands for principles, not just greater numbers?
on a lighter note, that avatar is truly hilarious!
May 13, 2008 8:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
GL is right - if everyone was thinking as hard as he was - we'd ALL be voting for Hillary RIGHT NOW!
Kool aid leadership dems Cheney VP!
Gotalife - I am #1 fan and will be right next to you till you stop posting.
May 13, 2008 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your love and devotion to GotALife makes me want to cry.
I love you both!
Did I say that out loud?
May 13, 2008 11:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
One time I confused my pea puree with my poopy.
May 13, 2008 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
So let me get this right...tonight's outcome is going to be exactly what everyone has been predicting for weeks now, and suddenly this is a game-changer for Hillary?
Is it any wonder we all think the media is retarded?
May 13, 2008 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see that the Dead Enders are still around - another surprise.
I can't wait for them all to switch to trolling for McWar -
May 13, 2008 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh, I flipped to Fox News and O'Reilly is interviewing someone about Rev. Wright and saying that he "doesn't know what Obama believes in" until Barack comes on his show. I guess O'Reilly has some sort of supernatural sense like Bruce Willis in Unbreakable.
May 13, 2008 8:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
O'Reilly's been fantasizing for so long about getting Obama on his show... I can picture him alone, late at night, devising, practicing the devastating questions in the mirror mwahahaha
May 13, 2008 8:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love Eric's " she will use this as an opportunity to change perceptions about Obama's electability."
ROFLMAO.
Yeah, them perceptions are gonna be changing like the autumn leaves.
May 13, 2008 8:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kinda like the aspens that turn turn turn?
May 13, 2008 8:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, I love it when the Aspens turn and those assholes ruined it for me.
LOL!
May 13, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Outside of their home state, VP candidates do not
change any voters minds. People vote for or against the top of the ticket. That being the case, and New York being a safe Democratic state, Hillary would be of no help to the ticket.
This dream ticket claim is absurd. It is actually a nightmare ticket. Expecting that America is ready to elect both the first Black, and the first Woman on the same ticket is sheer folly.
Finally. Who would bell Bimbo Bill. Think about it.
Why would a President Obama step on that land mine.
His Presidency would be ruined if the Husband of his VP was caught in another sex scandal, and you know that it very easily could happen. President Obama could not punish Bill, and he could not fire the VP that Bill is married to, but President Obama would take a huge hit for showing such bad judgment, because Bimbo Bill's history should have been enough of a warning sign
Governor Strickland of Ohio is the proper choice. He is a big Clinton supporter, so that should be enough of an olive branch to her supporters, and he can deliver Ohio.
May 13, 2008 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Matthews did that on purpose....he knows im gonna start calling her the al sharpton of white people.
May 13, 2008 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tweety is an idiot.
That's all he will ever be.
~
May 13, 2008 8:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
O my god, yes, liam - it is a nightmare ticket and it so isn't happening.
May 13, 2008 8:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hello Tena,
Welcome back.
May 13, 2008 8:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
If I were Obama, I'd say "Hillary, if you concede tonight, I'll appoint you Ambassador to France. If you hold out, I'll appoint you Ambassador to Myanmar."
May 13, 2008 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL.
Haven't the people of Myanmar suffered enough?!
May 13, 2008 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
She could take her wrath out on the junta. Safer than obliterating Iran.
May 13, 2008 8:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
True.
But if we're going to use her evil powers for good, can't we send her to Afghanistan to finish the job she helped W sideline by invading Iraq?
And besides, the added plus is winters there are horrible. She'll hate it.
May 13, 2008 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
It is a funny comment but joshuablog does have one hell of a point.
May 13, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
28 delegates down 189 to go.
Obama will lead by 155 pledged delegates after tonight. HRC will need 82% of the remaining delegates which equals 91% or the vote. Cause that is going to happen...
May 13, 2008 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not really a question of how much she'd need to win the remaining primaries by. It's a question of how many illegal alien hookers Obama would need to be caught with.
May 13, 2008 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 13, 2008 8:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Illegal male hookers at that.
May 13, 2008 8:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Illegal male MUSLIM hookers.
May 13, 2008 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
...who refuse to wear flag pins while the are friggin' in the riggin' and only get paid in Euros.
May 13, 2008 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. Those alien hookers are really troublesome.
May 13, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
My guess is 5 illegal alien hookers. Depends on their pastors though.
May 13, 2008 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whose delegate count are you following? MSNBC has it at 151... not including what he picks up tonight...
May 13, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
He has a lead of 165.5 in pledged delegates before the polls closed tonight according to Green Papers whose numbers are the most accurate. So if she nets 10 delegates tonight (which is about what she will do)... she will still be 155.5 behind him in the pledged delegate count, still behind him by 12.5 according to DCW, whose numbers are the most acucrate and eveyrone is sourced.
May 13, 2008 8:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
if you need a good laugh, check out Hillaryis44.org. There's this little gem in the current thread:
Too cute.
May 13, 2008 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ever wish Hillaryis44.org was an actual building so you could streak through it with "No she can't!" written on your chest" on May 20th?
...Yeah, me neither.
May 13, 2008 8:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do! But it wouldn't be written on my chest.
May 13, 2008 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Awwww...ignorance is SO cute, when it's combined with irrational optimism, isn't it??
May 13, 2008 11:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you, West Virginia!
I am proud and honored to accept the Democratic Party's nomination to be the next President of the United States of America.
I would also like to thank my opponent, Senator Obama, who, despite the fact that he has now officially lost the nomination, did a super job. Just super. He really tried, ladies and gentelmen! Isn't that cute.
May 13, 2008 8:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pat Buchanan: She is the Queen of West Virginia...
May 13, 2008 8:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
With 3% reporting:
Hillary: 58
Obama: 36
I know 25% of those vote for Hillary think white color on your skin matters, but I wonder whom the missing 6% are voting for?
All those who can't vote for a woman and for a black man? Or is it too early?
May 13, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Edwards will probably get a sizable share of the votes.
May 13, 2008 8:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
John Edwards is on the West Virginia ballot, so I suspect that around 4% of the vote was cast for him, and the remaining 2%, given the education standards of the state, was cast for American Idol contestants.
May 13, 2008 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
RACIAL DIVIDES ARE EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!
May 13, 2008 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I lost track of how many times you kool aid guzzlers played the race card.
Geez.
Pay attention to her speech tonight, if you can out down the kool aid long enough to listen.
May 13, 2008 8:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Put down the Crown Royal first.
May 13, 2008 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Race card? See "Ferraro, Geraldine", sport.
May 13, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gotalife is right - I can't believe the guzzlers of Kool aid either - spouting the same bone-headed message over and over - ofter mispelling their werds.
May 13, 2008 9:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Methinks that West Virginia is as good as it is ever going to get for her on working that divide.
May 13, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
you came back!
I missed U!!!
May 13, 2008 10:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton like most of the 'Low Information Voters' who support her has yet to figure out that she has won West Virginia and claim victory . . . Mathematics still appears to be her weak suit . . .
Okay. The yellow pantsuit that she keeps wears is her weak suit . . .
May 13, 2008 8:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
"That said, the Clinton campaign will likely use this as an opportunity to change the perceptions surrounding Obama's electability, and as a tool in their effort to sway the remaining super-delegates and generate a media narrative of momentum while completely ignoring the math and the fact that NONE of the Superdelegates will agree."
I think this script was written in, what, New Hampshire? Yawn.
May 13, 2008 8:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
As I write this at 8:52 ET you are reporting West Virginia primary results of 58% for Clinton and 36% for Obama. That adds up to 94% total. Can you please report what the networks are not reporting, the Edwards vote. I think it is a meaningful statistic that adds something to the picture.
May 13, 2008 8:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Took one for the team and paid a visit to TaylorMarsh just now. A true excercise in pathos. To wit:
"No negotiation. All the way. Vice president? Keep it. Clinton's in it to win it. You don't like it? Beat her.
Obama hasn't closed the deal. Period.
Remember New Hampshire? Rally, baby, it's full steam ahead."
May 13, 2008 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Going back to porn would be a big step up for her.
May 13, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
You really have to wonder how many of those people really believe what they're saying, and how many are just Clintonite shills trying to make it look good.
May 13, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's kind of sad.
May 13, 2008 9:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Better you than me, HOKNY - those people over there scare the shit out of me (although the idiots at Hillaryis44 are far worse, I'm afraid). We have an absolutely insane contingent in the Democratic party, don't we?? ;)
May 13, 2008 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Momentum?? As they say where I'm from.. "bunch of bull."
May 13, 2008 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Real triple testicled Annie Yokelys do not wear yellow Pandersuits!
May 13, 2008 9:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh my God. Hillary led off with a reference to a song by The Cure! Now she's pandering to the Goths!
May 13, 2008 9:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, no, no! Make her stop! She's ruining everything in my life......blech!
May 13, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is one black person in WV and he is standing behind hillary in the yellow shirt. LOL!
May 13, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
With half of his teeth missing no less. I think I saw two blacks there. One had 4 teeth and the other had on boxing gloves.
May 13, 2008 9:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I bet if someone pointed out to Gibson and his genuflect partner in jingoism that Mcsame only got say 1% in WVA he would make an excuse litany worthy of a lost pork chop salesman in downtown Beruit
May 13, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just frowned at my Cure cd collection....
May 13, 2008 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary Clinton quoting the Cure is making me feel REALLY old.
May 13, 2008 9:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
What Cure song is she quoting?
May 13, 2008 10:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary is rattling the tin cup again tonight, like a homeless person at an off ramp.
May 13, 2008 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
The problem is the mere sight of her makes me want to throw up.
Her face is awful and he speeches seem so inauthentic and forced.
Like a delusional madwoman.
Miss Haversham, anyone?
May 13, 2008 9:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary Clinton: "I . . . I . . . I . . . "
May 13, 2008 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Notice how often Hillary says "I believe that I am". Can you say narcissist, boys and girls?
May 13, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was struck, as Hillary rattled off the states that she has won (including the absurd inclusion of Florida and Michigan), that it's an incredibly short list. I thought there would be more.
May 13, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
She also won the state of denial and will be claiming those delegates May 31st
May 13, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
What a fighter.
She is not giving up whiners.
May 13, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course she's not giving up whiners. They're a big part of her voting base.
May 13, 2008 9:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was a come back worthy of Hunter Thompson.
May 13, 2008 10:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fighter? Yeah, she's just like Dubya. Non-stop fighting, just no winning.
May 13, 2008 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
It'll look pretty sad when Obama gets the official nomination as she's still campaigning. And I bet you'll look pretty sad, too.
May 13, 2008 9:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gotalife is right - she is the hardest fighting whiner there is - not to be confused with the other whiners - who do not fight hard, and simply guzzle cool aid, for...no leadership...uh, hang on here - Cheney VP? Wait - I've confused myself. Gotalife - a little help here?
May 13, 2008 9:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ending the war "responsibly" -- in other words, if I get the nomination I'll pivot to the right and I won't end the war because I won't be responsible.
May 13, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary Clinton's speech coach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTr6Mleln4k
May 13, 2008 9:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
"You will never quit, and I won't either!"
Oh, God.
May 13, 2008 9:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
lmao...state of denial...Nice
" You know I never give up....That I'll just keep coming back"
....she forgot to add even against the will of the majority of my party.
May 13, 2008 9:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well for all of us who thought Hillary would be conciliatory forget it. This is a slap in every Democrat's face. its obvious to me now that Hillary is going to make sure that if she aint President in November, BO wont be either. She is going to take the party down with her.
May 13, 2008 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Totally.
I hope all of the panelists at MSNBC apologize to Rachel Maddow for making fun of her after the IN/NC primaries when she said that Hillary did not sound concilliatory in her concession speech. It looks like Rachel was right.
May 13, 2008 9:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Robert Byrd is a treasure? A dead woman who voted for a woman?
This is the "one of the greatest speeches" ever given?
Congratulations, Senator Clinton. It was nice to hear you say that you will support the Democratic nominee. We look forward to your support after Oregon.
May 13, 2008 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
That 11 year old boy made a bad investment.....
May 13, 2008 9:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
West Virginia has changed EVERYTHING. The 20 superdelegates left who remain undecided should clearly launch a coup and decree Hillariously the President of the Universe.
That is the plan, right? Or does the plan rely on magic unicorns and cylons?
May 13, 2008 9:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I will literally vomit. Literally, I mean I'm wearing my vomit pants and everything, if I hear one pundit make that assessment. The knobs at CNN were all wringing hands over Obama losing the youth vote in WV. Yes, the youth KKK must not be a good demographic for Obama.
May 13, 2008 9:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary, in her speech, sure sounded like she was advocating for precisely that coup...
I think she wants that coup and then she would offer Obama the VP.
*sigh*
May 13, 2008 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well the cylon vote is not yet settled, we don;t know who the hidden fifth one is after all.
May 13, 2008 11:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
A whoops of approval arose from the crowd when it was announced Clinton won easily among the uneducated.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Uncolleged_and_proud_of_it.html#comments
May 13, 2008 9:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am watching the MS race....gonna be a tight one fingers crossed and it is just a tad more important in grand scheme of things.
May 13, 2008 9:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's been almost no mention of it on the networks. shameful indeed!
May 13, 2008 9:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
She also missed the great "I" state of Insanity . . .
Hmmm . . . Not narcissism . . . Meglomania.
Hey Hillary is bragging that dead folk have voted for her. I did not realize that 19th century Chicago was in West Virginia.
May 13, 2008 9:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Smug and sneering. Love it. You guys are gonna be kissing Clinton butt in no time, once it's clear how badly you need her supporters. Can't wait to see you grovel.
May 13, 2008 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lets look at that in reverse.
So if Clinton were to " win " ....seeing as how obama has more supporters...leading in popular vote and all. What would your " groveling " include ?
May 13, 2008 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or what?
You will vote McCain, someone else, not vote at all?
So you are admitting you give less than a shit about any of the things Clinton claims to be about running for, the SOCTUS nominees, ending the war, universal healthcare, addressing the economic downturn, investing in renewable energy.... so none of that matters. It is all more important that Clinton be the nominee.
Right?
May 13, 2008 11:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for conceding that Senator Obama is the nominee.
May 13, 2008 9:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
ERIC!
HEADLINE: Hillary proudly proclaims voter fraud rockected her to victory . . .
May Florence rest in peace.
May 13, 2008 9:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
ERIC!
HEADLINE: Hillary proudly proclaims voter fraud rockected her to victory . . .
May Florence rest in peace.
May 13, 2008 9:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
This
May 13, 2008 9:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
My congratulations to Sen Clinton. Her victory is stands as a testament to what a fine candidate she is. Now on to the great states of Oregon and Kentucky.
May 13, 2008 9:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I missed the HRC speech. Sounds like I did myself a favor. According to poblono at 538 "this really really sounds like a speech made by a woman with her eyes on the Vice Presidency".
As long as he stays over 30% and the margin is less than 40 who cares. I really don't see Obama picking her. He can get the same voters with someone else and without the negatives. He won't win CO with her on the ticket.
The MS01 race has tightened up to 51-49 Childers but most of Davis' base has reported and none of Childers so far.
May 13, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I missed the HRC speech. Sounds like I did myself a favor. According to poblono at 538 "this really really sounds like a speech made by a woman with her eyes on the Vice Presidency".
As long as he stays over 30% and the margin is less than 40 who cares. I really don't see Obama picking her. He can get the same voters with someone else and without the negatives. He won't win CO with her on the ticket.
The MS01 race has tightened up to 51-49 Childers but most of Davis' base has reported and none of Childers so far.
May 13, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
hollywoodheat, you wanna put that in English?
May 13, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
He stays over 30 and the margin is less than 40??? Phew. Pretty low expectations for wonderboy, eh?
May 13, 2008 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
How dyall feel about a Clinton independent run? McCain is so poor, she could pull it out. Pundits are not saying it yet, and Dems for Hillary wouldn't dare - yet, but there are a LOT of pissed off old ladies out there. Damn hippies.
May 13, 2008 9:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're an idiot.
May 13, 2008 9:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
And what's she going to use...monopoly money?
May 13, 2008 10:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL.
So you admit it is all about Clinton's ego and not about the Democrats winning in November.
May 13, 2008 11:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mike Huckabee is hitting a home run as an analyst tonight on MSNBC. He is very good.
May 13, 2008 9:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
kubla000 reminds everyone what a real thrashing looks like (and 33% difference isn't it):
Idaho 4 Electoral Votes
Obama 79%
Clinton 17%
Obama +62%
Hawaii 4 Electoral Votes
Obama 76%
Clinton 24%
Obama +52%
Alaska 3 Electoral Votes
Obama 75%
Clinton 25%
Obama +50%
Washington 11 Electoral Votes
Obama 68%
Clinton 31%
Obama +37%
Georgia 15 Electoral Votes (Competitive with Bob Barr)
Obama 67%
Clinton 31%
Obama +36%
Colorado 9 Electoral Votes
Obama 67%
Clinton 32%
Obama +35%
Minnesota 10 Electoral Votes
Obama 66%
Clinton 32%
Obama +34%
May 13, 2008 9:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
What I learned from her speech:
she is staying in
she thinks it's close
she thinks she can still win it
Suprdels don't need to declare yet
She needs money
She can win the swing states and can help on the down ballot
May 13, 2008 9:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
She doesn't leave Hillaryland to visit the real world very often
May 13, 2008 10:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
UNCLEAR OF How this win will change the delegate math?? It WON'T!! And just for a little perspective
States & elections won with 60% or more of the vote:
Barack Obama: 15 States + DC + VI
* Virgin Islands (89.9%)
* Idaho (79%)
* Hawaii (76%)
* Alaska (75%)
* District of Columbia (75%)
* Kansas (74%)
* Washington (68%)
* Nebraska (68%)
* Minnesota (67%)
* Colorado (67%)
* Georgia (67%)
* Illinois (65%)
* Virginia (64%)
* Maryland (62%)
* North Dakota (61%)
* Wyoming (61%)
* Mississippi (61%)
Hillary Clinton: 1 State
* Arkansas (70%)
* West Virginia (??)
May 13, 2008 10:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
It should be noted, for those following the festivities of today's analysis, that current turnout projects are trending toward 350k voters on the liberal end - well shy of the 700k voters the Clinton camp needed to shore up their "popular vote" shell game.
Another leg on the card table has folded.
May 13, 2008 10:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Childers wins. I'd say that proves pretty concretely that Obama's not a downticket liability.
May 13, 2008 10:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
The MS01 race has been called for Childers!!!!!!
Woo Hoo!!!!
Go Dems!
The repubs have to be shaking in their gucci loafers.
I guess Obama wasn't such a drag on the ticket was he.
May 13, 2008 10:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Money? Lots of rich old ladies out there. Independent run? Wow. What a cause.
You guys still talking about popular vote? Kinda forgot about Florida and Michigan? Kinda conveniently forgetting about caucuses and all the old ladies who couldn't get there?
I can hear it now. Kill racist old ladies!
May 13, 2008 10:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are still an Idiot!
May 13, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Childer's win is huge a real punch in the gut for republicans
May 13, 2008 10:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Face it, at the end of this process they call an election, she will have more voters voting for her.
In a real election, the most votes win.
Of course, after she won PA the supers went to Obama.
Its a joke of an election.
May 13, 2008 10:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
And that will happen how? He still wins the popular vote even if you include FL & MI.
What math are you using? Republican math?
May 13, 2008 10:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Childers wins. I'd say that proves pretty concretely that Obama's not a downticket liability.
Assuming the needed voters show up. Better start asking nicely.
May 13, 2008 10:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think Clinton supporters are stupid enough to not vote for Congressional ballots just because they're butthurt over Obama winning in the nomination.
May 13, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Funny - I happen to know a lot of Clinton supporters, both on and offline. Real people who have a great fondness for her - not the "undercover" GOP types you find here who spend their day looking for the next Outrageous Offense hurled back at their rhetoric designed for the very purpose - and they seem to be jumping on the platform without hesitancy.
But judging from your Clinton's Independent Run blurb a few lines back, i'm guessing you already know that and it's scaring the hell out of you.
Happy to have provided you with the next Outrageous Offense though - no charge.
May 13, 2008 10:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, you're talking to me? Um, really, ya gotta speak English, ok?
May 13, 2008 11:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry - lemme run that through the lolcat filter so it's more to your level:
Trolling - yoar doin it rong :(
May 13, 2008 11:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eric
Get it (W)right. The real story today is Childers.
May 13, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
The real story, the one you can't face, is Obama is a lousy candidate, and Hillary's people WON'T VOTE FOR HIM. You too frightened to look at the exit polls? What a bunch of pussies.
May 13, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for stopping by, Mark Halperin.
May 13, 2008 10:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Typical Hillary trash stemming from her pissed off supporters.
Exit polls are for morons. Either you are a democrat or you aren't.
If they want to stay home while our soldiers get killed in Iraq, that blood is on their hands, just like it's on Hillary's for voting for it.
May 13, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why are you accusing Clinton supporters of not giving a shit about anything Clinton advocates?
May 13, 2008 11:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who's stupid here? You made your bed. Sleep in it.
May 13, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really? Halperin is saying that? Interesting. Too bad you shot your wad into space; otherwise what YOU say might matter too!
May 13, 2008 10:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mere inches from actual English.
May 13, 2008 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL
Touché
May 13, 2008 11:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, Hillary just won the state that invented the toothbrush...
if it were invented anywhere else, it'd be called a teethbrush!
May 13, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
ROFLMAO
Oh shit... I am literally wiping tears away after laughing so hard.:
May 13, 2008 11:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exit polls are for morons... famous last words. You have major butt to kiss, elonepd. Better pucker up.
May 13, 2008 10:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
If exit polls are for morons, then what are you basing you Clinton supporters will not vote for Obama info on?
May 13, 2008 11:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Big deal-she wins another state that doesn't like black guys, and one the Dems have lost in the last 2 elections. It means nothing, since they won't win it this year either-although McCain's statements recently about wind power (a very good thing) can't play very well in the Coal Belt.
I'm just sick of her posturing about this being so important-give it up, Obama will pay you and Mark Penn, and we can all turn to beating McCain-which will be the best thing for the Country.
May 13, 2008 10:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, dump on WV. Smart. When is Obama gonna get you creeps under control? All McCain has to do is pick and choose this crap to make a HELL of an ad about the filth backing Obama.
May 13, 2008 10:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Teethbrush! Get it?
May 13, 2008 11:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, guys, come on! This is TOO EASY.
May 13, 2008 10:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama can't win swing states
Can't win the big states
Can't win the General Election.
This win just shows again who the stronger candidate is for the real election, the one against McCain.
But if Obama gets the nomination, my advice to McCain is this:
McCain: LIsten up!! You need to put a woman on the ticket for VP.
That way, even if women who are pissed off about their nominee and would otherwise sit home, will come out and vote for YOU. About 35 % of us will anyways, but that way you'll get the 25 % that say they may sit home.
Obama won't get our vote no matter WHO he puts on HIS ticket.
May 13, 2008 10:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
have fun with your back alley abortions, then.
May 13, 2008 11:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
You also forgot unequal pay for women.
May 13, 2008 11:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Worked wonders for Mondale.
May 13, 2008 11:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
"even if women who are pissed off about their nominee and would otherwise sit home, will come out and vote for YOU. About 35 % of us will anyways, but that way you'll get the 25 % that say they may sit home."
Keep dreamin', sweetheart. We join Hillary's independant campaign, write her in, or just ignore the top of the ticket. We'll trust these Obama fools to empty their pockets, kiss our ass, work their tails off, do what they can to win. I wish them something or other.
May 13, 2008 11:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome back, Tena!
May 13, 2008 11:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Women won't vote for McCain because he has promised to put more conservatives on the Supreme Court, and they will be able to overturn Roe vs. Wade. It wouldn't matter if McCain put Mother Teresa on as a running mate, women won't vote him in the White House. NOW will make sure that women know their right to choose is at stake in this election.
May 13, 2008 11:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
She won WV, but let's look to the facts...
Obama is ahead in pledged and super delegates, in popular vote and in number of states won. She will win KY, a republican state in november. He's going to take OR, a real swing state. Polls give him a 12 to 20 points lead. The flow of super is not going to stop. MI & FL will be seated in a compromise, but not in the way she wants, because they broke the rules.
Sooner or later, you have to wake up and smell the coffee. Even you, gotalife...
May 13, 2008 11:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see all the rats are coming out of the holes, thanks to WV. A few more super delegate endorsements this week and Oregon will drive you back into the hiding (special emphasis: RaeK).
Obama got a thumping in WV, accepted.
Delegate Count Today:
Obama cashed 9+5 = 14
Hillary 19+0 = 19.
+5 delegates on a day she won a fascinating state of WV by 35% margin.
Suggestion: Celebrate because this is the last one for you folks.
May 13, 2008 11:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
She will win KY too but it will be a wash with OR.
Still, it is o.v.e.r. next Tues when Obama clinches the pledged delgate lead.
At the end of the day, you need more delegates to win - super or otherwise. Obama needs in the neighborhood of 140, Hillary needs 310.
There are 430 left. Hillary needs 75% of all remaining delegates - half of which are allocated proportionally in primaries. Ain't. Going. To. Happen. Even if she gets all of the remaining supers, she needs to get at least 45% of the remaining votes.
May 13, 2008 11:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
But, where will all of her trolls...I mean, her supporters go?
Shouldn't we organize some sort of Rescue Society for them?
May 14, 2008 12:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wake up and smell THIS, geha: Obama will lose the general election. Get it? Yet?
May 13, 2008 11:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right, comeback then. You will be an ideal shoulder to cry on- with all the practice you'll have by then.
Now go grab a beer on something- celebrate dear.
May 13, 2008 11:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wake up and smell THIS, geha: Obama will lose the general election. Get it? Yet?
May 13, 2008 11:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Spam. Classy.
May 13, 2008 11:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just wondering: have the 100,000 little people been hired for the "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" number the whole freaking country is going to sing in a few weeks?
May 13, 2008 11:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
At first, reading through the thread, I was wondering:
"Where have all the Trolls gone?"
Then I saw that Casey came to bat!
Alas, he's just another McSame.
All the inbred people, where do they all come from..."
May 13, 2008 11:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am really worried about Pat Buchanon. He is on MSNBC shouting and turning red in the face. Obama is really getting under his racist skin.
May 13, 2008 11:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Zod? That you? I mean, really, you sound like you're 12. With a pecker, oh, 2 inches?
May 13, 2008 11:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
you sound like you're 12. With a pecker, oh, 2 inches?
You didn't really just make those two comments in the same breath, did you? Wow. Your lack of irony is only surpassed by your lack of wit.
May 13, 2008 11:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
2 inches?
Most women like it that wide.
May 13, 2008 11:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Feels like a trollswa