Thank G-d there was a NBA playoff game on tonight. I've avoided, save the time I watched Obama's speech, the 24-hour news channels.

Why would he after Obama eviscerated him on McCain's "ace-in-the-hole" issue?

Agreed. He is just ridiculous. He cannot even try to be fair or should we question "balanced?".......he just cannot beat up enough on Obama. They really need someone more objective.

McCain has won but 25% of the KY are not voting for him.

But many McCain or Republicn backers are voting in the Dem primary for Hillary and against Obama. Anyway, my point, If I were Obama I'd not sketch my White House path through KY and WV, at this point even GA looks more promising with a AA vote and Bob Barr candidacy.

who cares about popular vote? delegates, delegates, delegates

I thought this, too. But according to the numbers coming in in Oregon along with percentage reported, it doesn't look like turnout is going to be nearly as high as predicted. Unless I'm misunderstanding how these are reported . . .

Actually, if you look at the total vote, it's reverse. KY has more than 650,000 votes while OR looks it will end up with half-a-million votes.

Yep. I, for one, think Obama folks should fight hard to make sure this popular vote myth is put to rest. I don't think this false perception that somehow Hillary won the popular vote but not the the nomination doesn't help the candidate who moves on the face McCain.

Pigs did fly out of Hillary's ass tonight.

Obama forfeited by taking his name off. Stupid move. Too bad.

No votes for you Chicken-O.

That's about right.

I thought you predicted a Hillary victory a few days ago?
Fess up.

And I feel fine!

Plus, the numbers Hillary's counting are the primary numbers. The general election is a whole 'nother story.

"The only problem is, Puerto Rico doesn't vote in the general election."

Say what...? I've noticed that so many Obama fans have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

There are a lot of problems with using the popular votes from the primary to suggest that HRC is more electable than Obama in the general. But, a big one is the fact that they do not account for Caucus states. The fact is that the selection of a Democratic nominee for President is NOT based on popular vote. The rules are more complex than that. And trying to obfuscate that and play with the rules to make an argument that you have a better candidate is just silliness.

In the end, it doesn't matter, because the only audience that argument should make a difference with is the SuperDels, and they have not bought it. So, we have our presumptive nominee before us and Hillary slowly having to accept that. Now, how gracefully she does that - that's still unknown, but the signs so far in that regard are not good.

In response to my troll (he is hard working - kudos to him on that).

Despite what you might think of caucuses, they are a democratic tradition from our founding days. Yes, as a Clinton supporter I was less than thrilled by the results - Obama's people outflanked us in everywhere but Nevada, but they're a legitimate form of an election.

Part of being involved in a democracy is succumbing to the will of the people, not trying to bend and twist the outcome in your favor. I myself and tempted to take your route, but I know that it completely contradicts my core values as a Democrat and an American.

As much as I would prefer Hillary, if Obama is the nominee, and that seems all but guaranteed right now - I will work just as hard for him as I would Hillary.

They'd say that they didn't realize that so many people would vote in MI or FL and that now that they have, they want to respect their choice. It's BS of course, since she starting saying that we needed to count them before FL even voted, but that would be their answer if pressed on it.

Hey, Troll! Yeah, you there! Why do you continue to spew out such nonsense? When did Obama ever disenfranchise those voters? Nooo, it was the elected officials in both states. But you, Troll, would never understand such a complicated concept as that, would you? Now go be a good Troll and run back to your cave. I'm sure there's a nice scrap of goblin meat waiting for you.

MI and FL are still getting away with breaking the rules even if their delegations aren't seated. They now will have an earlier primary election from now on, and they'll get a disproportionate say in who the next nominee will be. It's really unfair that they're getting seated, when CA and NY could just as easily have broken the rules. If that had been the case, you know MI and FL would be screaming about the unfairness.

So for them to break the rules, get away with it, and *still* get seated is appalling. The fact that Clinton is breaking her pledge to follow the rules and is stoking the flames for her already dead campaign is beyond the pale.

Please excuse my relentless Troll. Unfortnately, he seems less committed to Hillary Clinton than causing general upheaval within the Democratic Party.

I wanted more than anything to see Hillary as the nomination, but were she to secure it through a legal proceeding, it would be a terrible thing for the Democratic party. It's time that we put an end to this sectarian fighting and started pooling our efforts into beating John McCain in November.

I hope that my fellow Clinton supporters, including my troll, will join me in trying to restore honesty and dignity to our country.