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New York Congresswoman: Hillary's Chances "Pretty Unlikely"
Another one of Hillary Clinton's Congressional backers is now openly voicing her doubts. Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY), called the latest primary results "grim," adding that "If you look at all the math and what's out there, it's pretty unlikely."
This follows yesterday's story that Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), a staunch Clinton supporter who worked very hard for her in California, was now asking to see what Hillary's plan was for winning the nomination from here.
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I've always liked Slaughter.
May 8, 2008 9:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'd marry her just so I could take her last name.
May 8, 2008 9:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
As if middle names aren't enough for you. :)
May 8, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
WTF? BUT I'M NOT DONE PUNKING BARRY!
I got a lot of dreck lined up to post. If she quits now who will click on my lame site then?
Sincerely
Larry Johnson
May 8, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Me too. He was the best character on GI Joe.
May 8, 2008 9:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
But seriously folks. This is still more of a signal that Hillary sees the writing on the wall. Let her get out gracefully.
May 8, 2008 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
She doesn't want to go out gracefully. She wants to bring down Obama.
May 8, 2008 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm telling ya. She is not that stupid. Her stock has already gone down a huge amount in the party. She won't sacrafice her whole future out of spite.
May 8, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
I thought that, until I read the USA Today stuff. For Hillary, "hardworking Americans" = "White Americans".
May 8, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
C'mon, that was just her refining her statement. At first she was mentioning hard-working Americans, and then she realized she need to reduce that set to just the white, hard-working Americans, since obviously most of the black, hard-working Americans went to Obama.
May 8, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, this. Despite what some Obama supporters seem to feel, she is not evil.
It's in her best interest at this point to find a graceful exit strategy. We might disagree on what the most graceful exit might be, but I trust that she is not going to destroy the party in an effort to win this. I suspect she'll probably take it to the convention (due to a sunk costs philosophy), but work to make it a reasonably clean convention.
May 8, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
She may get out, but who's to say she won't do what Lieberman did and run as an Independent and tell everyone that if they want the White House in November, they better stop Obama from running or McCain will win.
May 8, 2008 9:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Unlike Liebermann, she knows she couldn't win as an independent. That's at least one reason why she won't do it.
May 8, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
News Flash: Democratic congress critter Lois Slaughter tells the truth. Clinton campaign upset by this breach of clearly stated rules against truth telling.
May 8, 2008 9:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
So who do we think Obama actually puts on his ticket?
May 8, 2008 9:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Probably one at the top of his list is Jim Webb, the Senator from Virginia.
May 8, 2008 9:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
I really like Webb (also maybe Mark Warner) but I'm not sure. I don't want to lose Senate seats (Warner is running in 2008 for John Warner's seat when he retires) and I feel like they should go with a woman . I've just been casually researching Napolitano and Sebelius and I think both would fit the bill - highly regarded governors who live in red states and are in their second term. Richardson would also be a good choice and would make the southwest and Florida even more competitive because of the Hispanic vote...but I wonder about this "quid pro quo" perception. Like people would say "oh, he supported Obama just to be VP." I guess you could make that argument about anyone who supported him and ended up the veep, though.
May 8, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Also, his book will be a magnet for accusations of misogyny. In the current climate, those accusations would probably be quite damaging, whether or not they're true. (Obviously, if they were true, they'd be all the reason you'd need not to have Webb on the ticket.)
May 8, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
The names you see bandied about the most:
Jim Webb (VA Sen)
Kathleen Sebelius (KS Gov)
Janet Napolitano (AZ Gov)
Ted Strickland (OH Gov)
Bill Richardson (NM Gov)
Plus, several of the other ex-candidates: Biden, Dodd, and Edwards, have been speculated on. Edwards is on record as not wanting the job, as is Al Gore, another frequent target of speculation.
Other likely VP candidates are several of those who were at the top of a Clinton VP list: Evan Bayh (IN Sen), Ed Rendell (PA Gov), and Wesley Clark (ret. USArmy) notably.
May 8, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Edwards would be a complete waste. He has virtually no experience at anything besides trial lawyering. I used to like the guy, but his inability to show any spine since he dropped out of the race has diminished him in my esteem.
May 8, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think Evan Bayh is out. In Indiana, he is known as a corporation ass kisser.
May 8, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Evan Bayh is about as exciting as licking a wall. Besides, he is a Hillary guy, as is Strickland -- I'd hate to see Ohio lose him, it took so long to finally get a Dem back in that Govenor's mansion. Rendell is a Clinton guy, too, but he was very complimentary to Obama -- maybe trying to cut his losses -- he may still have a chance. Sebelius has Ohio ties, as well as being Kansas Govenor... her name and Napolitano's will be bandied about, maybe Gregoire's too, but they won't get it. Richardson has too many can't-keep-his-zipper-up issues that would have come out had he been a more serous candidate. No one from the Senate ... except maybe Webb. He'd be good. Biden and Dodd would be fools to give up their fiefdoms in the Senate for the bucket of warm spit that is the vice presidency.
May 8, 2008 11:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not Webb. 1) We need to keep his senate seat; 2) I don't think he's the kind of guy who would be good at playing second fiddle.
May 8, 2008 9:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
I believe that appealing to racial fears is the plan. She wants those hard workin' white folks and ain't worried about keeping those lazy minorities on board.
May 8, 2008 9:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hope that we will now see a turn in the Clinton Campaign, and from here on out we'll see a gradual move towards a united front against McCain and the Republicans. I hoping the kitchen sink strategy is now over.
I believe that Senator Clinton stands a good chance of escaping this primary with a decent reputation as a strong ally of Democratic policy. Perhaps, we might enjoy less votes from Senator Clinton that match Republican votes, so she might appear strong on terror -or however it is they define/excuse their actions, as she did in preparation for running for President.
I believe that Senator Obama is an intelligent man. He must see that Senator Clinton would be a good ally in the Senate.
May 8, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Has anyone here read "Moby Dick"? More importantly, has Hillary? She's gone past the tipping point. This is not a lucid, rational quest for the presidency anymore. It's an irrational obsession and she seems determined to grind to dust everything between her and her goal, even destroying her own career in the process if need be. Amazing to watch it unfold.
Hmm, now that I think about it, "Moby Dick" might be a bit too high-falutin' college-edumacated for Hillary and her gun-totin', coffee-drinkin', beer-swillin', shot-slammin' crowd.
May 8, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'll drink to that! ♪♪♪
May 8, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nice to know some of her supporters are part of the reality-based community.
May 8, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Can't Obama promise to make her the Prime Minister or something,just like Medvedev has made Putin the Prime Minister?That may help close out the whole thing.If Russia can have Putin,the USA can have Rasputin The Second.
May 8, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
RegaeBass
May 8, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry about the oops . . .
ReggaeBass,
This is NOT about stupidity. It is about the meglomania of the sociopathic.
Hillary is in route to asking Mr DeMille for her close up while Bill lays face down in the fountain out front . . .
May 8, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Perfect!:)
I want to see this play out on SNL!
May 8, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
I like Webb as VP pick for Obama, but based on the "preserve the Senate seat" argument, I would think that Wes Clark should fit the bill nicely.
His military cred alone would seriously flesh out the ticket...
This is assuming, of course, that Hillary declines any offer for the VP slot.
May 8, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary goes through life with blinders on. She has always failed to recognize the reality of where an issue stands. She is just as bullheaded, and unbending as George W. Bush.
Hillary behaved that way in 1993 with Health Care. She just had to get it all her way, and ended up getting nothing.
Her recent Bosnia sniper Fairy Tale revealed that this is the unchanging behavioral nature of Senator Clinton. After it had become clear to all around her, that her snipers claim was complete bullshit, Hillary kept on telling the same lie. She did not stop until she had wrecked her entire credibility.
She is doing it again now. All around her know that she can not win, but she will not be reasonable about it.
May 8, 2008 11:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary is either extraordinarily vain or stupid. Or both. (They do tend to correlate.)
What other explanation is there for her continuing obnoxious and destructive behavior?
May 8, 2008 12:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
elvigy, agreed. I'd go further. Hillary's latest remarks place her somewhere between Captain Ahab and Colonel Kurtz. If this keeps up, the Party may not enjoy the luxury of allowing Hillary Clinton to save her reputation.
I'm watching for some serious smackdown from some serious grey Democratic eminences, and for the superdelegate trickle to become a flow.
May 8, 2008 12:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Since Tuesday, we've heard from the Clinton campaign that "winning the white vote" = "progress", and that "hardworking Americans" = "white Americans".
I too am waiting for the smackdown from the Party eminences grises. And the superdelegate cascade. I'm getting rather impatient about it. What the hell is the holdup?
May 8, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink