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New MoveOn Ad On Bush And McCain: "Think You Can Tell 'Em Apart?"
Here's a new MoveOn ad linking Bush to McCain that's just gone up in Phoenix, where the two men are attending a fundraiser today...
"They laugh alike and walk alike and sometimes even talk alike," says the ad. "Think you can tell 'em apart?" It's also running on national cable.
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Now that was funny. I'd rather see these types of humorous ads than the nasty garbage. Thanks Move-on. Much better than the betraus garbage.
May 27, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agree wholeheartedly.
May 27, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
A Patty Duke reference? Wow. haha.
May 27, 2008 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
McBushCain; The Hybrid War Monger, gives the troops some "straight talk".
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/w/7/2/new-gi-bill.jpg
May 27, 2008 12:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
O no they didn't!
That's TURRIBLE!
May 27, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
So much for McCain's "Bush dodging" in Arizona!
Thanks, MoveOn! Hope this is a HUGE buy!
May 27, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOVE IT !!!!!
May 27, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I loved the ad.... keep up the good work moveon
John McCain is the same old politican that George Bush is.
ooooh by the way.... its VP DICK (hahah) kin to Barack Obama....they are cousins.....
wow better not put him in the white house.
the only change would be to put hillary clinton in because she is nothing like george bush or john mccain and she ain't kin to good old VP DICK.
May 27, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought Hillary Clinton hated moveon?
May 27, 2008 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
What the heck are you talking about?
May 27, 2008 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.
May 27, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I second that.
May 27, 2008 2:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
This ad made me giggle, but I think the flippant tone would turn off a substantial section of undecided voters.
My personal opinion is that Move On needs to plunk down some serious cash on FOCUSED audience research if they want to maximize their effectiveness. I see a HUGE potential to pick up votes from independents and moderates who feel betrayed by the GOP.
This ad resonates well with people who already view both Senator McCain and President Bush in a negative light. In other words, an audience Move On didn't need to spend money to convince.
The audience with the biggest potential pickup, however, could likely take this ad as unnecessarily disrespectful to a decorated veteran.
May 27, 2008 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was interrupted before finishing this post.
I'm not saying that the ad is factually incorrect in any way. I think the core message is outstanding and almost air-tight. I just feel that the tone could be tweaked to have a wider appeal if the aim is to speak to swing voters. Who knows, this may not even be the objective of the campaign.
Also, I understand that people may see little advantage with building a coalition with the voters I'm talking about.
May 27, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Spot on, Slouch. This is not the year to gloat and risk alienating anyone. They are soooooo done with Republicans. Let's remember that some got "feared" into voting for them in '04. Linking McCain to Bush IS the way to go!!!! But it's so easy, this isn't necessary.
May 27, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, Slouch! Cool name. Oscar sez hi!
I thinkee youz worryin overmuch. Not like we's Swif-Boatin dis Decorated Vetturn. Nooo, we aint no Karls Rover.
Sooo many peepul out dere bein sooo depressed. Gettin lied to an gettin theys pocketses picked by Dubya an his oil-prophet buds. An our sweet young-uns gettin blowed up an bein in debt to dem Chineese and havin four-buck gas bags. Mite almos say deys a lotta peepul out dere bein somewat bitter!
Nooo, a wee bit o humor an laff-makin is a good thing. We be needin some comix releef. Da tragedy we call Bush is so horritable dat any Sane Person lookin it strate inna eye be wantin to puke.
Enuf wid dat damn triangulatin shtuff. Tellin it like it iz widout paranoiafying about pissin off a few rednex. Time to be Movin On.
May 27, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, Bill The Cat!
Yes, the damned thing is funny, freakin' funny. And good. People will get it, and it is catchy so they'll be singing it to themselves around the house (whether they want to or not). "2 of a kind" is good and truthful meme material where these particular 2 are concerned.
Different types of ads will happen too.
May 28, 2008 11:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
What did you expect from the tone-deaf jokers who came up with "General Betray-Us"?
May 27, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like the ad but you've made a good point. MoveOn tends to preach to the choir, rather than work on expanding the base. More often than not, they alienate middle of the road voters and a lot of the money that they spend on ads is wasted, for that reason.
MoveOn has a huge potential to bring about positive change, but they tend to be all echo chamber, no out reach.
May 27, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I new MoveOn was doing good work as soon as conseravtives started equating it with such bad things as Liberals, Lawyers, the Labor Movement, and activism.
Good work!
May 27, 2008 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hilarious!
May 27, 2008 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Freaking excellent retrofitted ad.
Who can't identify with it?
May 27, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
He is giving a speech on foreign policy to end nuclear threat to mankind.
Where did the warmonger go?
May 27, 2008 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
So you're backing McLame now?
Just exactly what I expected you to do, gotnolife.
May 27, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seeing as how he probably wants to invade Iran to prevent proliferation, it's not an inconsistent stance for him.
May 27, 2008 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
w00t!
I love it - keep doing this - McLame is Bush.
May 27, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anybody catch Jon Stewart last week, juxtaposing the second of those two shots of Bush dancing with his pseudo-solemn mumblings about having given up golf because he doesn't want any "moms" of servicemen seeing him having a good time? I usually enjoy reacting with disdain to monkeyinasuit's efforts to seem adult, but in this interview he was shot fairly close up, and he came across as a real psycho.
May 27, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think this is a stupid ad that will not help with anyone who was not already voting democratic in the fall. If they had actualy used more policy statements that were identical perhapse it would have been more effective.
May 27, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I actually agree with this. There are so many better ways to link McCain and Bush than doing it with a bad attempt at humor.
May 27, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL Not bitter enough for my tastes. People under the age of 45 won't get the Patty Duke Show reference. Having said that it's damn near perfect.
May 27, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm 25 and I get it. But I grew up on Nick at Night. Dobie Gillis, anyone?
May 27, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
They're zeroing in on the demographic that is assumed will trend toward McCain.
May 27, 2008 2:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
the only change would be to put hillary clinton in because she is nothing like george bush or john mccain and she ain't kin to good old VP DICK.
I think if dive into Hillary's gene pool you'll find she's related to Katherine the Great, King Edward Longshanks of England, Herbert Hoover, Marie Antoinette and the Hapsburgs.
May 27, 2008 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's wacky and fun, but I wish there were more substantial matching quotes. The recession one is good, but they also need a matching Iraq quote. Maybe quotes on how they both don't support the new GI Bill.
May 27, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eh... I rarely agree with the way MoveOn does things, and this ad doesn't change my opinion. They rely too much on that snotty, "aren't we cool" insider garbage. This is mildly amusing, but don't they have enough money to do a little polling? Can't they afford to hire a professional to put together a real ad and target it to people who need to be persuaded? This ad preaches to the choir.
May 27, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes exactly! This cute too cool for school shit just puts off the people you need to reach. EDUCATE instead of self congratulate! I can exactly picture the self important hyper snotty group in the room approving this ad and so can all the independents you will need in November. War is not cute and funny ..... link the bastards on the facts of war and you will accomplish something.
May 28, 2008 5:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think it's adorable, but then, it's just preaching to the choir for me.
Maybe they're gearing it to Hillary supporters, most of whom would be of an age to remember the Patty Duke Show. (I'm 42, and I don't really remember the show, but my older sister and our cousin used to sing the song all the time.)
May 27, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
This ad preaches to the choir.
That choir is about 70% of the nation. McSame, McBush whatever you want to call him is running for Bush's third term. If fits in perfectly with Obama's campaign, the Democratic party's campaign and it does it in a lighthearted mocking way. Mockery like it or not shows strength and irritates the opposition. An irritable McCain is a losing McCain.
May 27, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Frankly, I wasn't impressed. I much preferred the DNC's "100 years in Iraq" ad. This MoveOn ad spent too much time emphasizing the only thing about Bush that's endearing - his goofballness, if you can imagine the word. The rest of the ad was OK, I guess, but it followed the goofiness that makes one laugh (and detracts from what he does that's not at all funny). I don't know...I think when it comes to ads with Bush-MCain, the more emphasis you place on the serious issues, the better.
May 27, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Slouch, you're no slouch. I agree with you 100%. It's the tone of the ad that can backfire.
Why not... (bring in sinister music)
"Our valiant troops are doin' just fine RIGHT where they are..." Bush? No, McCain.
"A polished chrome Cadillac in every garage..." McCain? No, Bush.
"Healthcare? Hell, I got these stitches in the ER!" Bush? McCain? Both!
See, I can't take 'em seriously either, but you get my point.
May 27, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like the way you think, Lovelynina. Much better approach - keep educating the voters about how much McSame represents Bush's third term.
May 27, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink