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Meanwhile, In Indiana...

With 33% reporting, Hillary is ahead of Obama, 57%-43%.

Meanwhile, the exits show that in Indiana Hillary continues to outperform among working class voters:

Barack Obama's troubles with white working class voters continue to cost him dearly at the polls: Hillary Clinton captured the votes of two-thirds of Indiana voters who lack a college degree; the two split the white college-educated vote.

Clinton's push for the gun vote seems to have paid off: half the state's Democratic primary voters are gun owners, according to early exit polls, they supported Clinton over Obama, 61 to 39 percent.

Late Update: It should be noted that Obama got 91% of blacks in North Carolina and 92% of them in Indiana.

Late Update: Hillary's margin is expected to narrow as votes come in from the area near Chicago and from Indianapolis.


Comments (219)

Come on.

No one has done more for Indianans than Barack Obama.

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"the exits show that in Indiana Hillary continues to outperform among working class voters..."

Except, of course, that she doesn't

From CNN's exit polls:

Age Clinton Obama
17-29 39% 61%
30-44 44% 56%
45-59 52% 47%


That translates into a clear majority of the working class for Obama, with Hillary primarily strong amongst retired voters and women.

Why can't Hillary Clinton win the vote of working Americans?!

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" the two split the white college-educated vote..."

If by split you mean that CNN's exit polls indicate that won the college educated vote by 12%.

It's a split, of sorts, but hardly an even one.

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yes and obama outperforms among black voters. what the hell is the obsession with working class white people?

It's what we all aspire to be. Salt of the earth and all that. Even black folks hope to one day be rural, white working class. Who wouldn't? I'm personally injecting all my cash into a burned-out trailer in the nearest cornfield so that I, too, can join with these elite decision-makers.

Your avatar is from Slaughterhouse-Five yes?

Yessir. Good eye.

Billy Pilgrim!

I love that comment.

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delaying the inevitable IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!

Love it when you customize, idiotic!

Pimp that ride, Idiotic!

Why Brother I. You're positively giddy tonight!

The longer they take to call it, the better for BO

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Looking at the counties reporting so far, Obama's strongholds have yet to report in any large margin. I'm confident Hillary will win IN, but by about 3-5 points only.

What channel is the primary on?

Are u serious?

HGTV.

UHF 69, but you'll need rabbit ears, and a 90-ohm bedistor.

LOL!!!!!!!!

I think I just ate a set of rabbit ears.

At least I think they were the ears.

Meheheheh.

The Discovery Channel

Indianapolis, Bloomington, and Gary votes haven't came in yet in Indiana. These cities are on Obama's rack.

It's going to be close,

Yeah. Im waiting to see those city's numbers.

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It's education, stupid.

Hmm, I wonder why half of her supporters won't for Obama. Think......real hard.

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Because they're republicans planning to vote for whoever Rush and FAUX tell them to vote for?
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Dipshit
No, actually she is winning more self indentified Democrats. Look in the mirror and say something, (anything), and there is your answer.

Really?

In NC where they have a semi-closed primary (i.e. no GOP chaos voters) he is mopping the floor with her.

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I think your use of profanity is uncalled for.

You're coming off as a poor loser, and skating on the edge of being ban-worthy, frankly.

They'll vote for Obama.

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interesting info from a reader of Andrew Sullivan's blog:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/05/indiana-things.html

Thank you! Very helpful.

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CBS has just called Indiana for Hillary.

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Yeah. I saw that, Buts its a little strange because looking by the county results as they are coming in, its seems like it will be pretty close. He has been outperforming projections in a lot of counties and underperforming in only some of the smaller counties. It certainly looks as if Clinton will win but the numbers don't seem definitive to me yet.

The white working class voter ...

I wish someone would throttle that stupid meme already.

Matthews is a fucking idiot, worse, he drones on and on.

It's unpleasant. He from a different age, called "The Middle".

It's idiotic, but since they insist - let's consider just how many white working class voters there are.

And what is a working class voter?

This is asinine - depending on whatever you set as the measure, there are not that many "working class" white Americans any more because we don't manufacture shit anymore.

Seriously - what exactly are they talking?

O wait, I know - SHIT - that's what they're talking.

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The critical thing you need to know about the white working class voter is that the likes of Tweety and Dave Broder channel their very thoughts.

So whatever Tweety and the Wanker think, it's the same as the white working class voter.
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That's of course, true. Bobo in particular seems to channel the entire Heartland.

From his perch in his fine leather chair in his office in Manhattan, out the windows of which he can everything that matters.


:)

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"the exits show that in Indiana Hillary continues to outperform among working class voters..."

Except, of course, that she doesn't, according to CNN's exit polls:

Age Clinton Obama

17-29 39% 61%
30-44 44% 56%
45-59 52% 47%

That translates into a clear majority of the working class for Obama, with Hillary primarily strong amongst retired voters and women.

This whole "working class" argument is bunk!

Most of the working class is retired. Nobody at my job works.

I'm trying to figure out how knocking back shots and drinking McCain under the table has come to be seen as a positive--do we want an alcoholic answering the phone at 3:00 AM???

I just had an eureka moment - I know how she's going to top those two stunts - she's going to grab a stack of ones and hit the strip clubs.

You watch - she'll be photographed with a big ol' cigar in her mouth (yeah I know) stuffing bills in some pole dancer's g-string.

She's gonna make it rain!!!!!!

Well, sure. We've had an alcoholic picking up the phone for 7+ years now. We like a president who can talk real plain-like. Too many neurons kills the deal.

Its a PR outreach to the the testicular fortitudinal voter from the GOP side. Of couse, they also happen to be the Rush-induced voter, but hey, that's ok.

From another site:

Will Hillary knock her front teeth out, tell the voters that Bill is really her cousin, tease her hair way up and start slugging moonshine with the coal miners????

How else can she "appeal" to the voters?

Hillary, talking awfully breezy about NC just four days ago:

"This primary election on Tuesday is a game changer. This is going to make a huge difference in what happens going forward. The entire country – probably even a lot of the world is looking to see what North Carolina decides.”

Ouch.

What a fool believes she sees, the wise man has the power to reaon away.

She believes it's never going away... Not her baby...

actually, that was michael mcdonald, not kenny loggins. i'm ashamed that i know that.

Loggins co-wrote it though, and he did a live version, and also a studio version for the Nightwatch album.

You win this time, Loggins.

Always bet on Loggins.

Oops, wrong doobie. It happens.

Michael McDonald was to the Doobie Brothers what Yoko Ono was to the Beatles.

The kiss of death.

Holy shit, that avatar is amazing.

MIND = BLOWN.

Enjoy it now, it will be changing soon. I expect gotalife will hide under a rock after tonight.

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"This primary election on Tuesday is a game changer. This is going to make a huge difference in what happens going forward. The entire country – probably even a lot of the world is looking to see what North Carolina decides.”

She didn't mean to say North Carolina. She wanted to say Indiana, but she misremembered where she was.

If BO did in TX or OH what he did in IN - shelf the big rallies and get personal - he may have won either TX and kept it close in OH.
This shows his campaign's ability to evaluate itself and make changes. his campaign has figured out what was wrong and fixed it. IN could have been a blow out win for Hillary had he not change tactics.

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Obama DID win Texas. My primary voted counted as 2/3 of a vote, and my caucus activity counted as 1/3 of a vote. Because we got off our backsides and caucused, Obama won Texas.

Thank you.

I posted that again yesterday in all caps, 3 times.

Still they won't get it.

Obama won Texas.

I did notice that CNN had Texas in stripes.

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Why does Hillary not have a black problem? A Democrat can absolutely not win without the black vote, and there is much more reason to think that she has a black problem than Obama having a white problem.

And I'd just like to point out that every single Limbaugh Democrat is probably white, and voting for Hillary, inflating not only her overall numbers, but especially her white low-education numbers

And those people will vote Republican in November regardless of who the Democratic nominee is - betcha.

Because the media assume whichever Dem takes the nomination has the black vote in the tank, er, bag. They see this mystical rural, white, working class person as being some sort of swing voter. Yet these crackers predictably vote for the guy (or gal) who eats the pork rinds, every single time. I say this as a genetic descendent of this rural white voting bloc. But I had my fill of Appalachia and went West, as young men are often compelled to do.

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Lux, I hate that this ends up being a black vs. white issue. Isn't the issue that they both have serious obstacles? She has a serious problem. He has an equally serious problem - he is missing the white, working class vote, the hispanic vote, the asian vote.

Also, it's pretty elitist to cast aside the "low-educated" Democrats. Are the working class, and those with less access to education, the ones we should be fighting for? Don't forget our roots. They're in fighting for racial *and* economic justice.

I love how Lisa Caputo (Hillary surrogate) says "Senator Obama is to be congratulated" but then doesn't actually congratulate him, in fact goes on to minimize his victory in NC.

Yeah I love that shit, too. Petty ain't in it.

Teena, you're doublin' down on the Texas talk.
ain't and innit. I'm impressed!

Tena. One e.

It really is over.

Hillary has not won Indiana yet.

Obama has been doing better than expected in Hillary strongholds and his big areas have not reported yet.

Monsters Inc needs a huge win in Indiana to be able to continue their charade. Could we be seeing the end tonight?

She's splits college educated white vote with Obama. She is a HUGE success with the less educated.

Greg,

Is Clinton broke? Again?

Ben Smith:

I asked Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe just now whether Clinton had given or loaned her campaign more money in the run-up to North Carolina and Indiana.

Ruh-roh.

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woah. that's interesting.

Hush now, Greg only steno's the spin that Wolfson catapults in his extra-special conference calls. Such things as having loaned her campaign more money (bogus claims of "$10 Million in 72 hours after PA" anyone?) are impolite things to actually dig into don'tcha know?

i think HRC sees the handwritting on the wall. After tonight BO will pick up more delegates. The hill got harder to climb. I think she will drop out before the May 13 primary

MSNBC: BO camp thinks nomination will be wrapped up by May 20th

Woo Hoo... I like the sound of the prospect of my state of Oregon delivering the coup de grâce.

Obama has done a great job of galvanizing the race-based voter.

He should be very proud today.

I'm glad you are starting to accept Clinton's defeat. Nominee Obama welcomes your vote in November.

Never said that. I'll leave that up to her. I still support her because regardless of today's outcome I believe she is the best candidate.

I give you credit for being brave enough to show up in this thread (unlike some other Clinton supporters). If Clinton asks you to support Obama, I hope you will.

wait, I have some kleenex here somewhere...

Are you whacking off to Obama?

Chocking a chicken?

How ironic.

And the gender based vote? or the age based vote?

How many delegates does Clinton have to win to get the nomination at this point?

One last one, when Obama is the Dem nominee, will you be voting for him in November?

The question is:
Would I support a candidate who has a huge recist constituency supporting him?

Is that what you mean?

Let's just try to get the spelling right ....

The question is:
Would I support a candidate who has a huge racist constituency supporting him?

Is that what you mean?

Are you looking to have Godwin's Law invoked?

Huh?

I was asking if you will vote for Obama in November when he is the Dem nominee?

They are fairly straight forward hypotheticals, no Nazi's invoked.

Mm, your tears are so yummy and sweet!
- E. Cartman

Why should Fogu2 not cross the road?

[insert answer here]

Because he will get ran over by Obama-Momentum!!!

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Obama hasn't even said the word "black" since PA!

Race, schmace; he's the best presidential candidate we've had in my considerable lifetime. Also the first African-American prez candidate I've voted for.

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This is you, once the superdelegates chime in over the next few days...

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Greg, STOP! you took a poll result referring to "working class WHITE voters" and said it was about "working class voters".

When you say "working class voters" you should be including black working class voters --as far as I know there are many black working class voters.

Do it right. I see this in the media a lot, identifying working class voters (but excluding black voters from that metric).

Bad news man. Fix it.

Its over!
Its over!
Its over!
Its over!

Howard Finemen on MSNBC is writing a new narrative that is closing the books on Sen Clinton. The math doth do her in.

o not that I like Howie, but

goodygoodygoodygoodygoodygoodygoody!!!!!!

O, the celestial choir is singing:

It's OVER, it's OVER now it's OVER, it's OUR turn now it's OVER Hill's game is shut down.


Bloomington, Indianapolis, those counties up top to the west, those counties down south too...I love you!!! Thank you!!!

(The Jeopardy question to the answer: What Hillary won't be saying tonight).

She won't thank Obama for running a good campaign.

She won't say she's out of the race.

She won't say that the final number is 2025.

O my she does have it bad.

she's got a whole ton of dirt on that shoulder.

IT'S ALL OVER!

Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom!

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The last big population center for Clinton just came in (Evansville) and she only beat Obama by 1,000 votes there. What is left that will go Clinton's way are all small, rural precincts.

The first of the big counties up north just came in, and Obama is getting a good spread. Once more of Indianapolis is in and we see how Gary and Lake go, we'll see whether and how quickly the gap closes.