McCain Rejects Right-Wing Preacher Rod Parsley, Too
John McCain has now publicly rejected the support of yet another powerful right-wing preacher, Rod Parsley of Ohio, after rejecting the endorsement of John Hagee earlier today.
McCain said of Parsley, a self-proclaimed "Christocrat" who has declared that America was founded with the mission of destroying Islam: "I believe there is no place for that kind of dialogue in America, and I believe that even though he endorsed me, and I didn't endorse him, the fact is that I repudiate such talk, and I reject his endorsement."
Parsley is in many ways a different case from Hagee, who at the end of the day can only deliver votes in what is already the safe Republican state of Texas. Parsley controls an evangelical vote operation that was pivotal in President Bush's 2004 Ohio victory. If Parsley were to view this as anything more than a pro forma rejection for the sake of appearances, it could have very real consequences down the road.















McCain already knew that Hagee was anti-semitic two months ago when he made the remarks below on the Bill Bennett show on March 11, 2008:
The full transcript is below:
The link is here at: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/22/204657/589/870/520853
The audio clip is available. The question remains, why did John McCain publicly reject the endorsement of Hagee when everyone became aware of the anti-semitic remarks? McCain already knew Hagee had made anti-semitic remarks, so cutting him loose was just pure political convenience.
May 22, 2008 11:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would argue that Hagee isn't an anti-Semite according to any traditional meaning of the term.
The guys who run KFC aren't anti-chicken — but at the same time, they don't have the best long-run interests of the chickens in mind.
May 22, 2008 11:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh, thinking that God made the Nazis deliver the Holocaust to the Jews in order to drive the survivors to the Promised Land? That's anti-semitic, I would say.
May 22, 2008 11:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
AND McCain characterized the remarks mentioned by Bennett as being ANTI-SEMITIC. That's his interpretation of that remark mentioned by Bennett.
May 22, 2008 11:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, good. I thought he was just a garnish.
May 22, 2008 11:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like the economy.
May 23, 2008 1:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
BREAKING: McCain Pushes Parsley to Side of Plate in Effort to Focus on Meat and Potatoes Issues
Sorry.
May 22, 2008 11:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Against my better judgment, I approve of this message.
May 22, 2008 11:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL
Touché.
May 23, 2008 1:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
oops. anneeliz, you beat me to it.
May 22, 2008 11:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Next up: Sage, Rosemary, and Thyme.
(groan)
May 23, 2008 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain chews on Parsley to combat halitosis.
May 22, 2008 11:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
yeah, scraming from the preachers' hateful bad breath.
May 23, 2008 2:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Pastor Parsley, under the bus you GO!
To Final Damnation!
May 22, 2008 11:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Vote Green Party!
Arugula/Parsley '08
May 22, 2008 11:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you, thank you!
Wait -- I thought it was the Greens Party!
May 23, 2008 11:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
When does he reject Huckabee?
May 22, 2008 11:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. This is actually mildly impressive. Although its amusing to watch McCain reject people who he needed (and were with him) during the dark days of his campaign. Some would call him an ingrate, I say presidential. I'm not going to vote for him, just have soft spot for him.
May 22, 2008 11:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't be impressed. It's a gambit. He's reducing his pastoral baggage so he can capitalize on the only thing that's hurt Senator Obama's numbers so far: Wright.
May 23, 2008 2:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain has tossed off as many supporters in one week than Obama gains Super Dels over the same timeframe.
May 22, 2008 11:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
So much for arugula.
May 22, 2008 11:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excuse me? The Green Party has nominated!
Arugula/Parsley 08
May 23, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain's on a role! Who's next up?
Agents of intolerance...
Christian Right support falling off the cliff...
May 22, 2008 11:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Depressing that consolidating the Republican base requires cozying up to these types of people.
May 22, 2008 11:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I call him McBushSame, don't you think it is more appropriate:)
May 22, 2008 11:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. Those medical records must sure be something.
May 22, 2008 11:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's obviously something in McCain's medical records that he doesn't want anybody to notice.
May 22, 2008 11:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is it just me or does anyone else think that McCain is hugely incompetent for not taking care of all this - Hagee, Parsley, Lobbyists etc. a month or 2 ago when everyone was distracted by the Dem primary and no one was paying attention to McCain??
He could have robbed a bank to finance his campaign and no one would have noticed. Instead he waits until the spotlight is all of a sudden back on him to do all this. A complete lack of planning and forethought. Granted this is no more stupid than getting involved with these people in the first place but at least if he needed them for political purposes, then be smart enough to ditch them when you need to.
May 23, 2008 12:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're one smart pooch.
May 23, 2008 2:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
He didn't do it because it didn't matter to most people. These pastors are not Wright. It's not the same thing. That's the truth.
McCain only did it when it became a real threat to votes, i.e. the Jewish voting bloc. The comments Hagee made about gays never meant anything because too many of McCain's supporters agreed with them. The Catholic comments were dispatched quickly by the spokesman for Catholics in the US -- Hagee issued an apology, and the Catholic leader immediately (as if he was waiting in the wings and coordinated the whole thing with Hagee) issued a public statement saying: Apology accepted, and this matter is now closed. And so it was. This guy, you see, backs conservatives, so he wanted to make it go away as much as McCain did.
If these pastors hadn't made statements that could offend the Jewish voting bloc, McCain would still happily have both their endorsements.
Pandering means never having to say you're sorry!
May 23, 2008 11:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Serial betrayal
No wonder he likes hanging with Lieberman
May 23, 2008 12:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh the wheels on the bus go round and round
All through the town
May 23, 2008 12:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Since Joe Lieberman has expressed his love for Hagee, perhaps he should be asked to engage in denouncing and unendorsing and all.
In 2007 Hagee was a featured speaker at AIPAC -- what will be their response? Likewise, ADL has had some very nice things to say.
May 23, 2008 12:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Forgotten McCain newspaper article #1, from the Casa Grande, Arizona "Dispatch," October 29, 1986:
"McCain, Kimball Debate in Flagstaff"
Excerpts:
"Kimball, the Democratic candidate, accused Republican McCain--a two-term member of Congress--of voting against environmental issues 'every single time...especially when the chips were down.'
"McCain 'flipflopped so many times' on the $8.5 billion federal Superfund bill to clean up pollution and toxic waste 'that Superfund looked like a pancake,' Kimball charged.
[[....]]
"McCain, in his opening statement, criticized a Kimball television commercial that aired Monday night. The ad portrayed McCain as having been insensitive to the concerns of families of servicemen still missing in Vietnam.
"McCain pointed out that he was a prisoner of war in Vietnam for five years and said that 'no one is more sympathetic than I am.' He charged that Kimball had 'sunk to a new low' with his latest attack and mentioned that Kimball had never served in the military."
I like the way those bits highlight McCain's continuing sleaziness--crapping on the environment, flipflopping, lying, posing in whiny titty-ass baby fashion as The Great Soldier to get people to shut up when his crapping on servicemen is pointed out.
May 23, 2008 12:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
The excerpts also illustrate what has worked for him as well.
Leaving McCain any opening where he can invoke Vietnam could be a costly mistake. He has a ready-made emotional connection with voters there, and they will almost always come down on his side.
May 23, 2008 2:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's getting pretty hard to figure out if a given set of bad guys are really bad, or just doing G-d's work to punish some of his people that are doing something wrong.
We had the likes of Falwell and Robertson claiming that 9/11 was G-d's punishment of America for one thing or another, and now Hitler was apparently doing G-d's work via the Holocaust. The former would make Al Quaeda some sort of agent for a vengeful G-d, rather than just everyday terrorists. (AQ might even agree, but prefer the Arabic name for G-d.)
Can't we just get G-d to restrict himself to meteorological events, earthquakes, and volcanoes so that we don't have to decide if particular people who seem villainous are really G-d's agents and not just plain old bad people?
May 23, 2008 12:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Second McCain newspaper article, an AP piece, from the Casa Grande, Arizona "Dispatch," October 29, 1986:
I like the way it brings out McCain's luxury lifestyle, financial sleaziness with his in-laws, and, yuck, an early appearance by icky right-wing spokeswoman Torie Clarke:
"McCain's Home Readied In Secret":
"PHOENIX (AP) -- Republican Senate candidate John McCain will be ready to entertain in style if he's elected next Tuesday.
"McCain, who spent his first years in Arizona fighting off charges that he was a carpetbagger, has secretly agreed to add at least $225,000 in improvements to a half-million-dollar Phoenix home outside the district that sent him to Congress for two terms.
"For months, using the name 'Smith,' McCain has been remodeling the home, now owned by his parents-in-law, James and Marguerite Hensley, and listed on tax rolls at more than $498,000.
"According to McCain Spokeswoman Torie Clarke, the plans were filed under the names Hensley and Smith because Smith was Mrs. Hensley's maiden name.
"But copies of the permits list the work as being done either for Jim Hensley or 'Mr. Smith,' and one subcontractor who worked on the project, plumber John McGann, said he was told the work was being done for an 'Eldon Smith.'
"Improvements listed on construction permits are estimated at more than $225,000, and plans appear to call for additional work beyond what has already been applied for.
"The plans show McCain is installing jacuzzies, a cabana, a ramada, a swimming pool, fountains and a barbecue as well as adding more than 4,000 square feet to a main residence that already covers more than 6,700 square feet.
"In addition the plans show McCain is erecting six-foot-high walls and iron fences as well as installing mechanized wrought-iron gates.
"Building sketches filed with the city refer to the project only as 'proposed alterations Smith residence' and 'Smith Residence Remodel.'
"Work on the project has been going on since at least June, and Ms. Clarke said the McCains planned to move in after the first of the year."
May 23, 2008 12:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
It does sound like a party pad. And here I thought he was going to build a "ranch." I heard today he was hosting his VP potentials at his "ranch," and I think that's the first time I heard that McCain had a "ranch." I'm thinking that he figured Bush's "ranch" did so well for him, that he'd better go and get himself a "ranch," too.
May 23, 2008 1:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Is it this place?
http://www.architecturaldigest.com/homes/features/archive/mccain_slideshow_072005
May 23, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wouldn't it be nice if everyone drew on this as a lesson that religion and politics not only don't mix, but often have toxic consequences.
While sometimes religion can be used to win elections (Bush 2004), it is becoming more evident that it can also bite candidates in the ass when they are asked to stand by years and years of preachers' rantings.
May 23, 2008 12:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
One thing: don't assume TX is safe Republican. Lean R, maybe. But not safe. Bush shame, migrating Californians and a growing Hispanic base is changing it.
May 23, 2008 1:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. Rasmussen this month had McCain just five points ahead of Obama.
Now if Hagee's fans stay home in November, and Richardson and Patti Solis Doyle work hard on the Hispanic vote ...
May 23, 2008 1:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
According to the obituary for Marguerite "Smitty" Hensley in the Arizona Republic, October 24, 2006, courtesy of NewsBank, Cindy McCain's sister is "Dixie Burd." Both are listed as the only surviving children, so I don't know if there were others.
Her full name as revealed by the database Veromi is Deborah Ann "Dixie" Burd and she was born April 18, 1953:
http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp?fn=dixie&mn=&ln=burd&dobmm=04&dobdd=18&doby=1953&city=&state=&age=&vw=&Search=&Input=&x=55&y=15
May 23, 2008 1:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ruh Roh.
Me thinks the evangelicals don't like to be called Agents of Intolerance in 2008 any more than they did in 2000. What makes McCain think they'll come out for him in Nov if he keeps throwing all of their leaders under the bus?
May 23, 2008 1:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Their probably still with him. He's just cleaning up conflicts so he can hammer Wright.
May 23, 2008 2:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
I meant THEY'RE probably still with him.
May 23, 2008 2:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Denounce and Reject Watch. I'm calling Pat Robertson next.
May 23, 2008 2:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Response to Kleefeld. You are right. Hagee is not anti-semitic in the classic sense. He is pro-Israel and pro-Judaism because the recipe for Armageddon requires a certain number of remaining Jews who will be converted when it happens.
There are a lot of people who, in their desperation, believe that the End Times are upon us. Unfortunately, in reality, all the ingredients do seem to be coming together and this just reinforces their belief system.
Who knows? Armageddon outtahere! ;-)
May 23, 2008 3:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
since the death of jesus they have been predicting the end of the world.
just one more ego out of control.
kind of interesting that the worst of the war mongers are the evangels.
so much for following the man that spoke peace and love.
these folks would not know love if they tripped over it. this is ego and power and ignorance in action.
the atheists have a field day with this.
the rest of the civilized world looks at america and believes that we are nutcakes.
May 23, 2008 3:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just underscores just how hard it is going to be to run against Obama. If all he's got is Wright, then he doesn't have much at all.
May 23, 2008 4:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
The U.S. really is the country of the Christian weirdos, isn't it? The world has some Jewish weirdos mainly in Israel claiming that ancient religious writings give them land rights, and we have Muslim wackos in so many lands. But the Christian nutballs, that's really us.
0dious. Like we are our own Pakistan, some such.
May 23, 2008 4:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
You know what the single main export is from this country?
Mormonism.
That's really scary.
May 23, 2008 8:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Unless you're a Mormon, then it's kind of cool.
May 23, 2008 11:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Too too scary innit ?
When the level of education in the Ewe Arse Ehh is such that so large a portion of the populace is comprised of the superstitious and credulous and further that the most powerful political entity on the planet and by extension its military, is under their influence to such a large degree.
May 23, 2008 6:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
And yet Hussein Obama continues to send out flyers with himself posed in front of a crucifix.
Hussein Obama supports and promotes the most virulent homophobic and misogynist black "ministers".
Hussein Obama sits for 20 years with his children listening to the vile racist MadMan Wright rave on.
And the "progressives" think rational people should support
Hussein Ahole Obama?
Is this the best they can do?
Really?
May 23, 2008 7:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
So, you aren't a pledged delegate for Barack, I take it.
May 23, 2008 8:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
You got his name wrong. It's not Hussein Obama, it's:
OSAMA HUSSEIN Barack X Trotsky Obama.
He's the first Black Power Christian Muslim Terrorist Communist presidential candidate.
Get it straight!
May 23, 2008 8:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Are you one of those new trolls McButt is hiring?
May 23, 2008 8:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think this is satire, and he's making fun of those trolls. However, it's a little too much like the real thing to be sure that this is the case.
May 23, 2008 9:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sean Hannity? Is that you?
May 23, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Apparently McCain does not respect conservative evangelicals in the morning!
May 23, 2008 8:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
O give me a break - how do you figure it's safe? Texas is right on the verge of going back - back - blue.
We were blue a hell of a lot longer than we've been Republican and it is not a safe state for the Republicans anymore.
We threw out 49 Republican judges in one night in Dallas County in '06. I wish political pundits and bloggers would get this - Texas does not belong to George Fucking Bush.
May 23, 2008 8:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't anyone think that Parsley is out of the picture,,,,,,,,, with his unholy alliance with jackleg preachers around the state, the wacky right wingers in SW Ohio with the big bucks, and the overlapping machine of former Ohio Secy of State, Ken voter suppression - stuff them ballot boxes Blackwell he is a dark side force to always be reckoned with here in the Buckeye State. Parsley is fuller'n shit than a Christmas turkey - and dangerous.
May 23, 2008 8:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Remind me never to have Christmas at your place. :P
(OK, I'm a pescetarian, so you might think it wouldn't be a concern, except I don't want to know what you put in your cookies.)
May 23, 2008 9:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
It was written and negotiated during the administration of President Washington, and agreed to shortly into the administration of President Adams.
The Senate ratified it unanimously; it was only the third bill ever ratified unanimously by the Senate, out of the hundreds that had come before it.
The text of the treaty was widely published in newspapers of the day; there seems to have been essentially no significant public objection to it.
And it says, in part:
Why do conservatives hate America?May 23, 2008 8:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
McSame loved Hagee and Parsley when he needed them to get the Republican nomination. Now that he's got that locked up, under the bus they go.
There's a man of principle for you.
May 23, 2008 8:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
O, would that be rather like the way Bill Clinton used Rev. Wright when he was in trouble and then turned around and used him again to smear Barack Obama?
Like that?
May 23, 2008 8:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, good comparison. I'd say McSame and Clinton are about the same in their consistency and intellectual honesty (or lack thereof).
May 23, 2008 9:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
At one time I might have thought McLame was actually less mendacious than Bill - but thank god I got over that delusion.
I'd say that they are on roughly the same level. ;)
May 23, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is admittedly amusing to watch. But it's also a bit sobering because it illustrates that this guy will say or do ANYTHING to try and get elected. Sort of like Joementum, the Chimp, or Hillary . . .
May 23, 2008 8:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
"But it's also a bit sobering because it illustrates that this guy will say or do ANYTHING to try and get elected. "
Yep, a lot like Bush.
But it was fun to watch. A real gift, too. Who would have thought that McCain would have kindly created his own pastor problems just to balance out Obama's.
May 23, 2008 9:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
McLame has been a veritable Santa Claus this week. He gave us an even bigger gift when he didn't vote in favor of the new GI Bill.
That was one of the best presents evah!
May 23, 2008 9:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
That should make a good campaign commercial for Obama, don't you think?
May 23, 2008 9:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
But will the SCMSM cover this to the same extent it has focused on the Rev. Wright? No way, Jose. So the lefty bloggers and Rachel Maddow (God bless her) have to keep pounding away on it to alter the coverage ever so slightly in our favor.
May 23, 2008 9:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well we all know why, but can't say because it brings the racist trolls out of the woodwork - but there is a fundamental difference between McLame's rightwing nuts and Obama's former minister.
What some people can take coming from some people, they cannot take coming from others.
May 23, 2008 9:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're correct, Tena, race is definitely an issue here. But the OTHER difference is this: Obama's a D, and McLame's a R. That alone accounts for some part of the disparity in coverage for all campaign controversies. Think back to Gore and his (manufactured) gaffes (inventing the internet, etc.) and how those were obsessively covered by the press, versus Bush's obvious deficiencies (avoiding the draft, questions about cocaine use and expunged conviction records, etc.) and how THEY were covered lightly, if at all. I don't think you have to claim victimhood status to say that there are historical built-in double-standards in the so-called liberal media with respect to the two parties, and that those double-standards continue to apply to this race.
May 23, 2008 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Very true, that!
May 23, 2008 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain spurns men o' god . . . What's next? Spurning his god?
SIDENOTE: TPM staff and all posters need to be aware that angry winger posting from McCain are going to be way up from here on in. McCain is offering a point system bribe to folk who frequent his website to get them to go forth and spread his good words and report back the aftermath.
TPM may get littered with this BS.
May 23, 2008 9:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Can they exchange their points for airline miles? What's the incentive with these "points?"
May 23, 2008 11:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Great Fundamentalist Pastor Massacre of '08
May 23, 2008 9:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Off-topic, but this from Crooks and Liars is certainly mouth-watering:
In 2000, McCain admits he’d be too old to run in 2008
By: John Amato @ 6:30 AM - PDT
As McCain gets ready to release his medical records in a very limited fashion today, I’ve come across a clip back on 08/01/2000. He’s being interviewed by Jim Lehrer on News Hour and admits that he’d be too old to run in 2008.
Lehrer: Finally for the record, you have not lost your desire to be President of the United States have you?
McCain: Certainly it’s been put in deep cold storage. haha..
Lehrer: You haven’t lost it?
McCain: Well, in 2004, I expect to be campaigning for the reelection of President George W. Bush, and by 2008, I think I might be ready to go down to the old soldiers home and await the cavalry charge there.
May 23, 2008 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
"I've never been to Pastor Hagee's church or Pastor Parsley's church," adding: "I received their endorsement, which doesn't mean I endorse their views."
And yet McCain in Cincinnati called Parsley "one of the truly great leaders in America, a moral compass, a spiritual guide".
The flip-flop express just keeps careening off the road...
May 23, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hah! This Rev. Wright thing is coming back to bite the Republicans in the ass big time.
First off it undermined their whole 08 campaign strategy of convincing people Obama is muslim.
Now their own religious affiliations are being brought to light.
Bush got a lot of mileage out of letting fundamentalist preachers send targeted messages to his base while publicly distancing himself from any specific statements. By and large their comments never got media attention anyway which was a pretty sweet deal for them.
The ridiculous obsession with Wright and the demands that Obama disown him and even his church have only served to open the door to scrutiny of their own religious affiliations. The media figures this is the way to go now.
May 23, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well there's an interesting distinction... Parsley endorsed McCain, but McCain didn't endorse Parsley. So now this rejection of the endorsement ends it all.
Now we can look forward to McCain applying this same standard to Hamas' "endorsement" of Obama. Right? Right?
May 23, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
True, that is a better comparison than to Wright. Obama still needs to explain why it took 20 years and outside pressure to finally get him to do the right thing.
May 23, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink