McCain: Americans Should Be Afraid -- Very Afraid -- Of President Obama
It needs to be restated that John McCain has settled on his message and is sticking with it. It's the essentially same message we've heard from the GOP for the last three elections now: If you elect my opponent, you will die.
The McCain campaign just sent out -- proudly -- these remarks that McCain made today:
"Earlier today, Senator Obama made a few remarks I would like to respond to. I welcome a debate about protecting America. No issue is more important. Senator Obama claimed all I had to offer was the 'naive and irresponsible belief' that tough talk would cause Iran to give up its nuclear program. He should know better. I have some news for Senator Obama: Talking, not even with soaring rhetoric, in unconditional meetings with the man who calls Israel a 'stinking corpse' and arms terrorist who kill Americans will not convince Iran to give up its nuclear program. It is reckless to suggest that unconditional meetings will advance our interests."It would be a wonderful thing if we lived in a world where we don't have enemies. But that is not the world we live in, and until Senator Obama understands that reality, the American people have every reason to doubt whether he has the strength, judgment, and determination to keep us safe."
Note the tweak of Obama's "soaring rhetoric," a sign (if you needed one) that Obama will be portrayed as little more than a smooth-talking slickster.
More to the point, note the last lines, which are identical to what his spokesperson said today. They are, again, a slightly watered down version of what he said yesterday on the blogger conference call.
This time, according to McCain, it isn't a fact that Obama is unfit to defend America. Rather, his ability to protect us is something we should have "every reason to doubt."
Obama did a pretty decent job of hitting back at this stuff today, though. The battle is joined.















All right "bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" McCain, just go say it:
You will bomb Iran.
Just come out and say it. Then let's see your poll numbers.
May 16, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Iranian perspective on US presidential race. The only one afraid is Mc Cain who sees himself away from the power to start another war. As an Iranian, I feel the rural America is being scared of an unfamiliar entity called Iran. I have aspent a whole night of my work making this little clip. It is not so professional but has the message. Please see and promote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuVYlGZmtYg
May 16, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. The election is really heating up now. You won't believe the results from this poll, though.
http://www.votenic.com
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May 16, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stop spamming ya jackoff.
May 16, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dumb spammer. Cut the shit.
May 16, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hard to beat THIS kind of experience!
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4861699&page=1
May 17, 2008 7:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
It is hard to beat this much common sense:
Obama article in Foreign Affairs Magazine
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070701faessay86401/barack-obama/renewing-american-leadership.html
May 17, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Teddy Roosevelt said, "Speak softly and carry a big stick."
McCain doesn't believe you can do both at the same time. When Obama suggests that the U.S. speak softly, McCain accuses him not being able to carry the big stick. Like the two are somehow mutually exclusive. This is the notion Obama needs to dispell.
McCain's neocon philosophy is, of course, "Yell like a crazy man and wave menacingly your big stick."
May 16, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you really think McCain has a big stick?
Maybe he needs to see a doctor, he's becoming Bob Dole's replacement in poolitics, maybe he has plans to take over the Vi*gra ad gig...
May 17, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
That last paragraph sounds so good and it's such a stinking lie.
Obama never has said we don't have enemies. Never.
May 16, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think we can probably expect some more ridicule and bemusement over those remarks.
Someone better call Joe to check John's bearings again.
May 16, 2008 6:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
The big problem with McCain's bearings, they are very square...
Square bearings are virtually worthless...
May 17, 2008 9:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Yes, and one of my biggest supporters thinks Jews have no souls!"
Umm....McCain, I think Israel is full of Jews!
May 16, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, no, no.. McSame's lovable preacher said jews DO have souls... just dead ones.
(sigh)
May 16, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ohhhhh, my bad, my bad.
Oh yeah, and he said that god sent Hitler to force the Jews back to Israel. So McCain is attacking Obama was being willing to talk to some asshole who thinks the Holocaust didn't happen, while one of his biggest supporters believes the Holocaust was God's will.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/16/82049/5729/849/516798
Uh-huh...
May 16, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
he also said that jews "sowed the seeds of anti-semitism" that culminated in the holocaust. is that your position as well, senator mcWar?
May 16, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is he going to bomb his biggest supporters too?
May 16, 2008 6:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
On a bed of roses.
May 16, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well we certainly know where the biggest pricks are.
May 16, 2008 6:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wright.
There is a difference between having some crumb endorse you and a twenty year relationship after which you claim to have no idea that the guy was like that.
May 18, 2008 3:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is probably a pointless question, and, it's probably the culmination of an afternoon reading student research reports (transl: my brain is toast!, but how is questioning the strength, judgment and wisdom of one's opponent "civil"?
I thought St. John Straight Talkin' Maverick McCain was going to run a "civil" campaign.
Where's Cindy when we need her? She said the same thing.
As for the actual content, keep bringing up how scared Americans should be. Keep doing it, you feeble old man. Allows Obama to draw such an advantageous contrast.
Sorry for "feeble old man". That was ad hominem.
May 16, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
May 16, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe she's sharing them with Rush...
May 17, 2008 9:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
yeah,yeah,yeah, faaaaain, so take the chellenge and debate,then!
May 16, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, he's right. We have to bomb, bomb, bomb until we get them to appease US. Hey, worked out so well in Vietnam.. no?
May 16, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lestatdelc "Hey, he's right. We have to bomb, bomb, bomb until we get them to appease US. Hey, worked out so well in Vietnam.. no?" YES, it did work out well. While you were asleep, Vietnam was no problem, for thirty years. OK, that's your cue to squeal.
May 18, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
So basically, he's going to rerun Hillary's campaign. Given how well it worked for her in the open primary states, I can totally see why.
Sure, Hillary had Strengh and Experience (TM) and it didn't do her a lot of good with the indies, but it'll totally work for McCain because he's Strengthier and Experiencier (TM).
May 16, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's basically what they will be doing, which is why I was so pissed with Hillary throwing every right-wing attack at Obama that she knew damn well would be used against Obama if he won the nomination. But she didn't care about Obama, or the future of the Party, it was all about her quest for glory.
May 16, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Enough on Clinton. That's history. Focus on McBullshyte.
May 16, 2008 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ummmm, my point here is that past is prologue.
The founts of Beltway CW in the Axis of Imbecility are insisting that what didn't work for Clinton in the primaries will work for McCain in the general because the general is not the primary.
They are, as usual, wrong. Because McCain wrapped it up so much sooner than we did, the independents in many of the open primary states--and not a few Republicans--were voting in our primaries. For that matter, we got most of the independents voting in open primaries even before McCain clinched. McCain is, in effect, trying to woo voters who have already rejected precisely the same argument he's pitching to them.
I don't think they're doing it because they've got some secret polling data that shows voters will be more willing to except Strenthier and More Experiencyier from McCain even though they didn't buy it coming from Hillary. I think they're doing it because its all they got. Their policies have been a disaster, their record has been one of failure and they haven't anything that could pass for a new idea since the Reagan Administration.
Past is prologue. They're doing the same thing Hillary did on the exact same voters and expecting a different result.
May 16, 2008 10:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can hear the campaign message now: "My friends, I'm Strengthier and Experiencer, and gosh darn it, I'm worth it!"
Wait. How did Al Franken sneak in there?
May 16, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ugh, everytime I head this stuff I just feel icky... it's just so damn nasty. It's the fucking ad nauseum "messaging". Fuck sticking to a message...it's like that guy who didn't know what Chamberlain did, or the definition of appeasement, that was torn apart on Hardball. When will the McCain campaign be called out by anyone besides Obama?
May 16, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, there is a possibility that Vicki is the one busy checking his bearings out.
May 16, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shit.. that was supposed to be in reply to CT Voter at the top of the thread.
May 16, 2008 6:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
The correct response is: Americans are not afraid of anyone, least of all Iran. What is McCain so afraid of?
The "Republican = fearful of shadows" meme needs to get out there. Because really, that's what the last few years have been all about. The right wingers keep talking about all the terrible, terrible dangers, when any thinking person can see that America is as safe from external enemies as ever. (It's just the domestic problems that are the killer.)
May 16, 2008 6:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly!
Presidents of both parties were not afraid to talk to our opponents when they had tens of thousands of nuclear tipped ballistic missiles points at us, so why is McCain so afraid to talk with non-nuclear head's of states?
May 16, 2008 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain Of The Panderosa.
More War Years! More War Years! More War Years!
A vote for The Maverick Of The Panderosa, is like a Vote for the Cowboy from Crawford that rounded him up and branded him.
More War Years! More War Years! More War Years!
May 16, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel like Lewis Black all of the time now whenever someone speaks for the McCain campaign. What?! No?! Fffffuck! Why are you hurting America!? Fuuuck.
May 16, 2008 6:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain has said this in every comment: (release) re: Obama talking with Iran.
"in unconditional meetings" (with Iran).
When has Sen. Obama EVER said he would meet in unconditional meetings? McCain keeps jabbing at this point, and it is bullshit.
May 16, 2008 6:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has said that he would meet without preconditions, although with preparation.
Whatever that means.
May 16, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just read that too. Thanks.
May 16, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Constantinople - it means Obama won't do drive-by-shooting 'diplomacy' ala Rice. Pre-conditions boil down to the other party agreeing not to disagree with whatever America wants.
Republicans find it beyond the pale that an American president, think Obama, would deign to sit even at the same elevation as a pre-determined (by the president) terrorist. Foreinstance, Ahmadinejad must be seated below Bush if Bush were ever to even consider being in the same room.
Frankly, I would find it loathsome being in the same room as George Bush.
May 17, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
It means that he's willing to pat himself on the back for playing semantic games.
May 17, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lux,
I hear you. If it does turn out to be the case, though, that McCain follows Hillary's line of attack on Obama, we have some comfort in knowing that it probably won't work this time around, either. And if today's exchanges are harbingers of what's to come, Obama won't pull punches.
May 16, 2008 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Errrgh.
I was responding to this comment by Lux:
That's basically what they will be doing, which is why I was so pissed with Hillary throwing every right-wing attack at Obama that she knew damn well would be used against Obama if he won the nomination. But she didn't care about Obama, or the future of the Party, it was all about her quest for glory.
May 16, 2008 6:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is reckless to suggest that unconditional meetings will advance our interests.
That's the key phrase and idea, repeated twice in the statement...that Obama favors unconditional meetings.
That's where Obama will focus when he guts McCain on this next time...either later today or tomorrow. And perhaps carrying into Monday, to make sure it gets into the news cycle.
May 16, 2008 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
..... you know it's juss a shame that Obama can't hit back on what such an abomination the whole Iraq escapade turned out to be, it would cause Americans as a whole to become somewhat introspective and as a nation we don't reflect on things EVER. How is that war for Middle Eastern resources coming along? Thank goodness that surge McCain trumpeted may allow us to declare victory in 2013. Ah you know what juss give me my $600 and lemme vote for the white guy with a non-Muslim sounding name. Thinking is HARD.
May 16, 2008 6:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain has adopted so many of Bush43's nastier habits . . .
Pointing towards the opposition and declaring his own greatest weakness belongs to the opposition and relying the corporate media to repeat the untruth until it paints the opposition indistinguishable from himself.
Hopefully, folk will finally catch on and examine speaker's flaws for what they are.
May 16, 2008 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
John McCain's problem, his flip flops are on video or have been direct quotes. He has a creditability problem and BO shined the light on one of them today, his flip flopped view on talking to Hamas.
BO has the potential of doing to JM what JM did to Mitt Romney, paint him as a flip flopper.
May 16, 2008 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would actually use the term "expose" rather than "paint".
May 16, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe McCain's not a simple flip-flopper, maybe he's actually a split personality, and one half never knows what the other has said...
Seriously, compare the "Johnny Songbird" McCain with the "Red blooded patriot" McCain, maybe his Hanoi tapes would reveal that underachieving, self-protecting, selfish little partyboy Prince who had every Real-Maverick mistake covered up by either his Daddy's money and henchmen, (sound familiar?) or his latest wife's hi-power Arizona pop...
Seriously, all snark aside, has anyone ponderd that there are TWO McCains? And that they don't know each other very well?
....or maybe he really is just getting senile.
Either way, we have a diminished capacity working in this psuedo-maverick who would be king.
May 17, 2008 9:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good Johnny Boy, mock Obama's speaking ability because that worked so well for your buddy, Hillary.
Oh, I just can't wait to see these two on a stage together! Obama will blow him away.
May 16, 2008 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
How pathetic. Obama slams McCain Friday morning, leaving McCain sputtering nonsense on a Friday evening when no one is even listening.
May 16, 2008 7:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
John Stewart would call this one of Obama's "dickish" moments.
May 16, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain of The Panderosa
Has been forced to ditch yet another Senior Campaign Weasel.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10394.html
Excerpted from the report:
ohn McCain's campaign asked a prominent Republican consultant, Craig Shirley, to leave his official campaign role Thursday after a Politico inquiry about Shirley's dual role consulting for the campaign and for an independent 527 group opposing the Democratic presidential candidates. The campaign also released a new conflict-of-interest policy barring such arrangements.
Shirley, a conservative public relations veteran, doubled as a consultant to McCain and to Stop Her Now, a 527 group barred from coordinating its activities with presidential campaigns. He is not currently on the McCain campaign’s payroll but will also step down from his role on McCain’s Virginia Leadership Team said McCain spokesman Brian Rogers.
May 16, 2008 7:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama can't carry McCain's jock strap!
He's a wimp and a poodle. Lord Help us if he's the nominee and president!!
Get my passport ready!!
May 16, 2008 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Then get the fuck out of the country. No one is stopping you. You do not have an Anchor on your Inbred Springer Reject Arse.
May 16, 2008 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
oh, yeah, i'm going to listen to the likes of you.
May 16, 2008 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
So you are a liar about leaving, or you are such a weak-willed puppet who's strings are pulled by anonymous online posters.
Either way, sucks to be you.
May 16, 2008 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Doh... who's should be whose of course.
(eyes clock on office wall)
May 16, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yuk, just the thought of a McCain jock strap is disgusting. And go blog on some site that cares what you say.
May 16, 2008 7:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cool. One less racist fuck-head in the country.
You need any help with your papers, packing?
I can pitch in for cab-faire to the airport or a lift to the U-Haul place.
May 16, 2008 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
sexist bloodsucker !!
i'd rather be a racist (which i'm not) than a sexist (which you ARE)
Lestat was a blonde btw.... you creepy villain!
May 16, 2008 11:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll be glad to get your passport ready, you yutz.
May 16, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
ugg... there's that mugg again....
ugly little fucker....
May 16, 2008 11:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
He is the nominee. Need a ride to the airport?
May 16, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Get my passport ready!!"
You don't need a passport to get where you belong, ReeK.
Just tread water till you hear the flush and the wads of paper will push you through the pipes.
May 16, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
May 16, 2008 11:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
They are running over Obama.
Who da thunk it?
Me, of course.
Lose three in a row on national security.
Should have run Clinton.
May 16, 2008 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Get to a detox center. You are addicted to FOOL-AID.
May 16, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who "DA" thunk it?
Gotalife! OF COURSE.
Gotalife - once again - might I spout out my undying love for you - er, your posts(I am #1 fan).
I vow to never leave your side on these posts - unless of course you get that job at PNAC - though I know you failed the essay a few times (play the odds!).
Truly - with each one of these posts you show to the entire web community how much of a life you have.
May 16, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
McSame getting his shit shoved back down his throat is a good thing. Only idiot LGF trolls like yourself don't see it.
May 16, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
go back to your cellar your creepy bloodsucker... dreamin of the day you and your obama can suck the blood out of good Americans!
May 16, 2008 11:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
gotaloofah - you couldn't deconstruct a "Family Circus" comic strip. Here's how this story's being viewed by the MSM:
WASHINGTON (AP) — In President Bush's hint that Barack Obama wants to appease terrorists, Democrats heard troubling echoes of 2004, when Republicans portrayed John Kerry as irresolute and weak on national security.
Determined to end the similarities there, Obama and his allies counterattacked Friday with a multi-pronged response that was as fast and fierce as Kerry's response to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth ads was slow and uncertain.
And while the Democrats' first-day responses focused on Bush's speech this week in Israel, Friday's reactions mainly targeted John McCain, the GOP presidential candidate who seemed largely on the sidelines at first.
Obama, appearing unusually feisty and at times sarcastic, led the countercharge himself. Campaigning in South Dakota, he departed from planned remarks to rebuke Bush and McCain, and then called a news conference for a second dose...
It's unclear whether the 2008 campaign will feature attacks comparable to the Swiftboat ads. But if it does, the response is almost certain to be quicker and angrier than anything seen four years ago.
Here's the link: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jhuSCSHf0_NnOvpd5kajS5SdNBdgD90N0V6O0
May 16, 2008 7:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly Gotalife - once again - you continue to dazzle the drowning victims of cool aid with your eloquent, hard hitting, fresh take on the issues. In short - the turth.
I think Gotalife would agree with me that we should continue to whine our way to November - constantly trying to destroy the U of SA's chances to heal itself by incessantly pounding out simple minded messages chock full of gramatical errors - we don't want anything that can fly over a 14 year old's head (18 in 2012 for HRC )Clinton)).
PS - Gotalife - you left your meds at Fogu's place last night after the party. What's Valtrex?
May 16, 2008 8:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
ROFLMAO.
Annnnd Cut! Print it. That's a wrap folks.
May 16, 2008 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain obviously knows one verse of one song.
And we are doomed to hear it until November.
Kind of like having the melody of Terry Jacks' "Seasons in the Sun" stuck in your noggin'.
Wow.
Just wow.
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Obama/Olbermann '08!
May 16, 2008 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama needs to turn the fear card back on McCain, the same way Johnson did to Goldwater with the "daisy ad".
May 16, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, he needs to do a Toto pull the curtain back on the befuddled old man pretending he is Wizard and the fake theatrics of fire, smoke and thunder who lost his way back to Kansas.
May 16, 2008 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
That Faux Christian, Mike Huckabee, making a sick joke about some one aiming to shoot Senator Obama.
A very brief ABC news video clip showing that bible thumping phony making his disgusting remarks in front of an NRA audience. Talk about taking pandering to the extreme.
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4873660
May 16, 2008 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Instead of a "stinking corpse", Ahmadinejad should've called Israel "the Great Whore". Then McCain would've liked him a lot more.
May 16, 2008 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or said that jews in Israel have no living souls. Then McCain could have gotten their endorsement.
May 16, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Ahmadenijad were a lobbyist, McCain would give him a job on the campaign.
May 16, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Come on, sweetie.
No one has done more for foreign policy than Barack Obama.
May 16, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
that just gets funnier and funnier. especially when obama has a sane foreign policy, and mcWar, not so much.
May 16, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Compared to the entire GOP establishment, up to and including McBush and McSame... you are right. Obama is already doing more for helping foreign policy than anyone on the other-side of the aisle.
Thanks for playing.
May 16, 2008 8:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Especially after today.
May 16, 2008 10:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
surprising how one-time "hillary supporters" so quickly adapt to fluffing mcCain. okay, not surprising. as DLC as hillary is, i still think they were GOP all along. real hillary supporters (and granted, there are a few) wouldn't flip like that.
May 16, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
He hit back, he hit hard and he hit a vein. They are going around in circles while he keeps getting in solid punches. He's going to be fine.
May 16, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is Israel more secure today than they were before George W. Bush was sworn in.
Is the United States more secure today than before George W. Bush was sworn in.
Is the American Economy stronger today than before George W. Bush was sworn in.
Do all Americans and Israelis feel more secure today than before George W. Bush was sworn in.
War Monger McCain wants to continue with the very same disastrous misbegotten policies of George W. Bush.
If that is what you are craving for, Then McCain Of The Panderosa is your War Mongering Panderer In Chief.
More War Years! More War Years! More War Years!
May 16, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
So now we know McCain's entire campaign strategy.
Convince people that instead of worrying about not being able to fill their gas tanks, pay their mortgages, buy their groceries, and heat their homes, they need to be afraid that someone with a remote controlled model plane might use it to spray their house with anthrax. Or something equally ridiculous.
Food, mortgage payments, heat and transportation to work are minor concerns compared to the 1 in 100 million chance that you might be killed in a terrorist attack.
May 16, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
On the other hand, if you lose your job or your house or can't afford to heat it or put food on your family, that might tend to focus your concerns on more...er...immediate concerns, rather than some "what if giant radioactive lizards arose from the depths of the oceans to pillage our great country" scenario.
In which case, you know, McCain's campaign strategy probably sucks very large donkey balls.
May 16, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
You forgot about the fags. If you lose your job or your house or can't afford to heat it or put food on your family, that's because Bob and Michael down the street love each other and are committed to being there for each other for the rest of their lives.
May 16, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
My bad...I completely forgot about teh Awesome Menace™ of the gay banditos!
May 16, 2008 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
War Monger McCain has nothing to offer but Fear Itself!
May 16, 2008 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
The gop brought out the big guns at the NRA and just ran slap over Obama.
McCain is crushing Obama on national security in the polls.
This was predicted by the Clinton supporters but ignored.
The dems will be fools to run this guy and lose three in a row on the same freaking issue, national security.
May 16, 2008 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
you're stuck in the 80s. i'm surprised mcWar doesn't want you for secDef
May 16, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
The only thing getting reported from the NRA is Huckabee's fucked-up "joke."
The only thing being noticed in your posts is that you're a fucked-up joke.
May 16, 2008 8:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Goatshite is addicted to Fool-Aid!
May 16, 2008 8:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly Gotalife - I think I'm speaking for you when I saw that the big guns or the NRA are EXACTLY what the country needs to silence the whiners.
Btw - speaking of Guns - I just wikipedia'd that valtrex stuff - GL - you better keep your gun to yourself! I don't care how drunk Matthew Weaver was last night!
May 16, 2008 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please, don't feed the trolls.
(But I gotta admit, the Valtrex theme is golden!)
May 16, 2008 8:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Get real, this campaign will not be won on one issue and besides, McSHITSTAIN-YOUR DINOSAUR GERIATRIC HERO-is down in the polls by 11 points already against Obama. Plus, Obama's response attack yesterday isn't hurting but helping him. And, have you forgotten that the Republican NATIONAL SECURITY test score for the past 8 years has been a shit stain completely? I wouldn't trust the Republicans to guard my locked up bike. I'm going to enjoy watching the GOP get their ass's handed to them in the HOUSE and SENATE elections in November. It is going to be a wipeout with yesterday's MISSISSIPPI loss of 3 House seats a harbinger of things to come. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
TAX CUTS,ABORITON,GUN CONTROL,GAY MARRIAGE ETC-ARE FRIGGIN USELESS TO YOU KNOW....OOOOps I forgot the absolutely pitiful economy you do for nothing idiots placed us in..
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAH!!!!
May 17, 2008 5:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Am I the only one out here thinking that maybe the Senate isn't the best place to be looking for the next President of the United States? After all, what has the Senate done for us lately? None of the Presidential candidates has had the leadership skills to get the Senate to accomplish anything. None of the candidates has authored groundbreaking legislation. I think we would have been better off with a governor or mayor with a track record of success or a business leader with a track record of success. The Senators running for President are all part of the current Washington D.C. inability to accomplish anything.
May 16, 2008 8:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I beg to differ. Obama working with Coburn authored some ground breaking 'sunshine' legislation which became law in 2006, legislation that requires information on government disbursements and the recipients of those monies to be made public via internet.
May 16, 2008 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
It will be interesting to see the path that the Republicans take trying to deal with Obama. If I remember correctly, this first salvo is sort of like the Clinton campaign's first salvo against Obama last summer [naive on foreign policy].
Maybe the Republican party is so lost in the wilderness of their own self-destruction that they can only try to piggy-back onto the Clinton campaign's strategies, trying some twists of facts and guilt by association stuff at later dates.
I think the Clinton campaign's fatal error was to not even recognize how widespread and deep is the desire for a substantive change in direction. The Clinton campaign followed an out-dated script.
The Republican party's fatal error may be to not recognize the fact that a majority of ordinary folks have emerged from the Bush years by becoming aware that they were, in fact, manipulated with fear tactics. McCain's campaign seems to also be following an out-dated script.
May 16, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Its the same ole script if you paid attention to the last two Presidential elections.
The gop frames the Dem candidate as weak on national security and win on that issue.
Politics as usual.
May 16, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly Gotalife - and it's that very hate of politics as usual that causes us to support HRCLINT (Clinton!) - or maybe...McSame?
Same old politics? What's the matter with that - right?
PS: You might wanna pick up that Valtrex soon - Present says that stuff can go to your brain.
PPS: Raek's got a similar situation - said you can talk to him in private (re: herpes)
May 16, 2008 9:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Look, just this once, I'm going to engage you seriously. There is a differnce between reflecting on the last two elections and being so traumatized by them that you are blind to the fact that there've been a few changes since 2004.
Like, say, the Schiavo debacle, the Katrina debacle, Bush's 26% approval rating, the recession, the 2006 ass-whipping that the Republicans and the MSM were denying would happen until it was over, the three special elections in a row we've won in the most Republican congressional districts in the nation despite a full-on a gale force blast of Republican fear-mongering, the change in voter registration rates, or the dramatically diffferent age distribution we've seen in the turnout.
Honestly, if your choice is between having been right about everything come next fall and having a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress in 2009, wouldn't you prefer the latter? If so, howsabout maybe stopping with not very effective demoralizing defeatist moaning and getting on board for the big win? Really. If you're really a Democrat as you claim and not just some Republican halfwit with an Internet account who thinks he's demoralizing (rather than just amusing ) us, give it a try.
Worst thing that could happen is you can come back the day after election day in November and plaster us with "toldjas" all day long, secure in the knowledge that you did nothing to contribute to the defeat. Best case, you could be on the right side of history and not look like and feel a complete fool the day after the election. Either way, you would win.
May 17, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
The country wants change. Obama offers change. Game over.
May 17, 2008 12:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
War and Commander-in-Chief-dom are REPUBLICAN frameworks. Shifting the focus to bullying and fear-mongering allows Republicans to force recessivist policies upon the population. What we are seeing here it the repetition of a fascist plutocracy surplanting a democratic republic.
Progressives need to focus on re-framing the conversation of what the Presidency is. The reason for the existence of the Office of President is defense of the Constitution. Quickness to resorting to violence is exactly the opposite of what is required to lead a nation founded on responsibly maximizing freedoms . . . Especially and specifically including the freedom from fear.
Everyone loses when America wallows in fear.
GotNOlife,
I am sorry that the ability to understand the concepts expressed above escapes you. I feel for, empathize, forthe lonely tragic life you mind seems to confine you to.
Patrick Henry meant what he said when he stated, "Give me Liberty or give me death."
Beating ones chest and pretending to be Alpha Prime Male does nothing to better or forward the Great American Experiment. We . . . We, the People, are better than that. Obama appears to have come to understand that.
Clinton ran and continues to run a wildly sucessful primary campaign in spite of making choices I would have never made. Acknowledge that Obama ran an even more sucessful primary campaign and is the democratic Party's de facto nominee. It is time to choose to support what is best for Amerca.
I say this as one who has made no secret that neither Clinton or Obama is my preferred choice. It is time to join the League of Civilized Human-kind.
May 16, 2008 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
National security is the number one job of the President.
Obama, once again, is on the defensive rather than leading. McCain is in control. Obama is coming off as petulant, naive, a bit childish.
Clinton would have none of that and McCain would not be able to make these claims stick to her.
Clinton remains the best choice.
Oh, BTW, it is not over. There is still time for the Democratic leadership (and that does not include Obama) to change course and throw it's weight behind Clinton.
May 16, 2008 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly.
All she has to do is stay on message and the corporate media united with the gop run slap over Obama on national security.
We tried to tell the kool aid drinkers that you have to be strong on national security the Presidency in a time of wars.
May 16, 2008 10:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oops.
You have to be strong on national security to win the Presidency in a time of wars.
May 16, 2008 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm George W. Bush, and I approve of this message.
May 16, 2008 11:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
What happens at a Troll Circle-Jerk?
May 16, 2008 11:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Economic security is national security. That's the greatest failing of Bush and his buddies.
May 17, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's big problem against McCain is that he's an empty suit. He brings nothing to the table. He can say stuff about national security, but the general election isn't a Democratic primary. Nobody cares about his "judgment" in 2002. If Bush engineers some little incident in late summer, Obama is toast.
May 16, 2008 9:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Fogu would agree with me that we're both ALL ABOUT throwing this election.
PS - Fogu - GOP HQ says not to report OT for the weekend - they'll get us back in June (budget issues - funds not getting raised as well as we want - you know)
PPS - How about throwing in a "Cool Aid" comment now and then? You should really try to follow Gotalife's example.
May 16, 2008 9:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please come back when your attempt at irony has some humor. Nothing is more insufferable than someone's mistaken belief that they are clever. Time to empty your drool bucket.
May 16, 2008 9:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, that's exactly what we've been trying to tell you. I think we've had a breakthrough here!
May 16, 2008 10:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe you were once considered amusing. What happened?
May 16, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
You lost your sense of humor?
May 16, 2008 11:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't say I considered him amusing.
May 17, 2008 1:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
The thing is, you have never been amusing or informative - fucking troll.
May 17, 2008 7:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Now that hurts my feelings.
May 17, 2008 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like the branding Obama's people are doing.
Bush... McCain
BushMcCain
Bushmccain
The failed, naive policies of Bushmccain.
Eight years of Bushmccain has put us in a hole.
Don't need no more Bushmccain.
Time to scrape the Bushmccain off our nation's shoe.
May 16, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
On a subliminal level it's a hard sell for McCain to project the image of himself as a powerful protector of the American people due to his physical frailties. His age is less of a problem for him than the loss of range of motion in his arms. His limited arm swing threatens his balance when he walks, especially on stairs without a handrails. When he speaks,his arm gestures are stilted. His rage may be a function of his feelings of physical impotence. Accounts of his verbal abuse of his wife and her past addition to painkillers create a troubling portrait.
May 16, 2008 9:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is Bush Wacked:
More War Years! More War Years! More War Years!
McCain Of The Panderosa, is the Maverick that the Crawford Cowboy put his brand on.
More War Years! More War Years! More War Years!
May 16, 2008 9:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Reckless meet feckless...
This is getting to be like an Ultimate Fighting match
May 16, 2008 10:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Note to any McCain staffer that promotes running on Hillary's anti-Obama approach:
Your candidate is not nearly as smart as Hillary Clinton.
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Obama/Olbermann '08!
May 16, 2008 10:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Those who are afraid are saying these things about us.
Those who are afraid are spreading fear.
Those who are afraid are saying that they are the only salvation.
And all they offered us for eight years is fear.
Those who are afraid believe that we will abandon our core beliefs for fear.
Those who are afraid will remind us of good times past; prior, to their control.
Those who are afraid will ask us not to stray from the past.
Those who are afraid will ask us not to think of new horizons.
Those who are afraid are afraid of their own beliefs.
Yes, your neighbor who is of a different color or belief, has yet to harm you...those who are afraid
What America; have we become. other than those that are afraid.
Our shadows can do no harm; Only our will.
Let us take it back and be Americans again.
May 16, 2008 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama/Inouye 08
May 16, 2008 10:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Quite the Hawaiian punch, that is.
But Inouye is a little sleepy for my tastes!
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Obama/OLBERMANN '08!
May 16, 2008 11:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama couldn't carry McCain's JockStrap!
You meathead far leffties will be realizing real soon, you shoulda backed our gal Hillary. She's got testicular fortitude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEhiiiaaaaa!
Rae
May 16, 2008 11:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
How big are yours, if any?
May 16, 2008 11:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama couldn't carry McCain's JockStrap!
Of course not. How could he when it's clenched tightly between your teeth?
May 17, 2008 1:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
We women are going to pull our vote and vote McCain...
and then we may LEAVE THE FREAKIN DEM PARTY
May 16, 2008 11:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
The door for "Whiny Children Who Care Obviously Don't Care About Stopping The Republican Insanity" is right over there. Here, have a Kleenex too. On the house.
May 16, 2008 11:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good riddance!
We DON'T WANT OR NEED YOU!
May 16, 2008 11:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can go now, RaePublican. Buh-Bye.
May 17, 2008 12:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
"We women are going to pull our vote and vote McCain..."
Then you and those of your ilk are products of inbreeding who should really consider euthanising yourselves.
May 17, 2008 7:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
...
the party that took away Fla. & Michigan's right to be heard!@!
What kinda fuckin party is that???
If they had been favorable towards Obama, he'd never have taken his name OFF that ballot.
Fuckers knew it all the time!!!!
May 16, 2008 11:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
a better one without the likes of you.
May 16, 2008 11:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
What many people don't realize is that Senator McCain isn't just shreaking from the far right. He's actually speaking for many, many Americans who would otherwise have voted Democratic but simply won't put the country in the hands of a novice like Barack Obama. Senator Obama is a celebrity, not a leader.
May 16, 2008 11:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your concern is duly noted.
May 16, 2008 11:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yet another Concern Troll.
Too bad for you.
Obama is 44.
Accept it.
Deal.
May 16, 2008 11:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dood,
You obviously didn't see the speech in Watertown, S.D., or the presser that followed today. He's showing quickly that he's no novice and that, in fact, he is a STATESMAN and exponentially more capable than McCainBush of running this country deliberately and well. Today, the Repugnanticans played their highest card (national security) against him and he raked in a pretty hefty pot.
By the way, this 47-year-old white Alabama redneck (albeit elitist; I have a college degree) Obama supporter can't help but wonder if by "novice" you really mean "black man."
When I look at Barack Obama, I don't see color, but, instead, hope; hope that he can --- with intelligence and deliberation --- marshall the forces to deliver us from the clusterfuck that Bush hath wrought and McCain wants to continue.
I fear that four-to-eight years of McCain would effectively snuff out the beacon of hope our country has shone to the rest of the world for so, so long. And I fear that we've --- with our war- and fear-mongering --- already pushed countries that were once dependable allies to the brink of desertion. They are watching. They have hope, too.
And I know that hope is just a word. But words have power. And --- as of now --- America has power. And if we multiply hope by power by moral authenticity, then we can make America, well, America again.
Some will call what I've written above puffery.
I see in it our only HOPE.
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Obama/Olbermann '08!
May 16, 2008 11:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, what this I hear there's a video the Repubs have on Mrs.Obama.....saying some bad shit in church
about white people. Anybody heard about that?
May 16, 2008 11:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wonder how much tape there is out there with Nixon calling African Americans n*****s?
Who cares what someone says about white people - it isn't like we're going to lose control over the entire fucking globe just because someone takes us to task in church.
Jesus - what a bunch of paranoid white mofos there are running around.
May 17, 2008 1:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Now that is funny!
May 17, 2008 1:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Go over to noquarterusa.net/blog
I admit Im a little worried... this sounds like it could be damaging. I have confidence in Obama and his team though, they usually seem to know what theyre doing.
May 17, 2008 1:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Larry Johnson is worse than Taylor Marsh - his hatred for Obama knows no bounds. I would take anything he says with a large grain of salt...
May 17, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah - "worried"
About what? Goddamn - if this is going to be line of attack, then somebody better tell me what is so bad about criticizing white people.
Cause I don't get it - it's like criticizing god in some ways - it just rolls off because in case you need reminding We White People Run every Damn thing on the Planet.
It can't hurt too bad to be talked about because I'm sure we've been resented for literally hundreds of years since we've been holding the reins for literally hundreds of years.
May 17, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Self-loathing. It is the Obama way.
May 17, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, what's this I hear about angry, semi-literate hate-filled asswipes making stupid shit up and posting it on blog comment sections?
May 17, 2008 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain, you should just STFU while you still have a future in Pepsi commercials. The more you flap your lips, the goofier you sound. You can't even remember what you said in the morning to keep from contradicting yourself in the afternoon. If you're going to keep taking your talking points from Bush, you might as well concede right now.
May 17, 2008 1:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
The real enemies of a free America are W. Bush and McCain.
W. Bush can be excused because he is an idiot, but McCain? He chanced a lot since the 2000 SC primary when I voted for him. I wonder if his tumor has affected his brain.
What is the Republican party obsession whit Israel any way? We need to refocus attention to domestic problems......
May 17, 2008 3:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
McShitstain parrots Bush at the Knesset to amplify attacks on Obama. Piggyback on top of Bush. Get used to the salvos McCain. Obama is gonna lob them any chance he gets especially when you slip up like yesterday, and in a debate he's gonna wipe the floor with you especially after his 20 debate warmup with Hillary who would have whooped your ass too. Be afraid. Very afraid.
May 17, 2008 5:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
well, it is unclear as of yet just how well Obama really does understand national security issues. Being against the war doesn't count for a lot, because the picture was so murky in 2002-03 that a reasonable case could have been made on either side. He guessed right, but it was only a guess. And his growing up in Malaysia, understanding other cultures, blahblahblah, is just non-sense. Sure, copared to provincial morons, he's Dr. Kissinger, but compared to me he's a provincial moron.
May 17, 2008 6:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
By CRAIG DELLA PENNA on May 16, 2008 at 6:47 PM
Dear Senator Obama:
I’m very upset by recent statements you have made about funding education by “postponing” elements of the space program. Let me tell you why this is a very ill-advised position.
1. It makes you look like an idiot.
If you do indeed postpone Orion by five years, you have effectively killed it. The project will lose its knowledgeable personnel, its production schedule will be canceled and there will then be no replacement for the 40 year old shuttle fleet. The Russians (and perhaps by then, the Chinese) will be the only nations with manned access to the ISS and to space.
2. It makes you look like an idiot.
The entire space program soaks up about 0.15 % of the federal budget, the DoD currently consumes about 31% of the federal budget (when you include the costs of our several wars). As president you could extract the entire NASA budget from the DoD budget and they wouldn’t even know it was gone, it’s a rounding error. In addition, the space program is the only government program in our nation’s history which can be shown to have paid for itself – in terms of fiscal and medical benefits derived from cutting edge technology which NASA either invented or sponsored.
3. It makes you look like an idiot.
Every self-serving, tub-thumping, ill-informed, moronic, blowhard political hack in the past fifty years has attacked NASA to herd the ‘proles’ to his side. By pandering to the Luddite, anti-intellectualism rampant in American society, they hope to send a message to the masses: “I’m one of you, I hate smart people too.” This is certainly not hopeful, nor audacious, it’s just old-time political quackery.
4. It makes you look like an idiot.
American education isn’t just about “readin’, writin’, and ‘rithmetic” so you can go out and make great gobs of money. There must be goals – great ones, dreams far larger than rolling up a nice, fat 401K. In order to meld us together as a nation, we need aspirations that demand greatness from us. Young people need to see that there is opportunity to actually accomplish their dreams and a purpose larger than earning a living.
Fools and madmen use our fear to conjure threats, precipitate useless wars and make cowards of us all. Do not be this kind of politician, we have more than enough already.
Leaders address the best that is in us, qualities we didn’t know we had and demand that we rise to meet those expectations because we can rise and we can create something new, beautiful and bold.
The space program represents those qualities of aspiration, expectation and accomplishment that we must embrace as a nation if we are to prosper and live long.
The choice you currently espouse leads, inevitably, downward, stifling creativity and handing the future to others. It is also intellectually lazy and can easily be shown to be massively counterproductive both economically and scientifically - and, it makes you look like an idiot.
You still have the chance to reverse yourself and reject the foolish counsel that proposes to cut off our future in order to make political points with fools.
It’s your choice as to what company you will keep – what will you do?
Cordially,
May 17, 2008 7:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh you mean like this one? I believe it is the candidate you prefered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFZL33nPoEU
May 17, 2008 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
What is telling is that it is Obama who has once again gone back on a campaign promise.
He's scurrying to brush the mud from his poodle skirt while BreckBoy plans their next circle jerk.
In debate after debate Obanana promised unconditional talks with the heads of our top five "enemy" governments.
The ObaIdiots swooned!
The Left praised him for his breathtaking vision!
HRC was excoriated when she pointed out how naive and fatuous a promise that was!
Fatty Uberman humped Madow's leg then pissed all over himself!
BUT WHOA!
Now Hussein has reversed himself completely!
Down the memory hole with that promise!
Down the memory hole with his "division a month" withdrawal!
Down the memory hole with his "$1000 for every sucker"!
This is the height of what the "progressives" have to offer?
This is their "best and brightest"?
This is their latest Duke LaCrosse jeremiad...
He calls female reporters "sweetie" but it is Queer as Matthews who gets it up for him!
This after Obanana threw gays under the bus in SC.
And after he threw his own grandmother under the bus in Philadelphia!
Remember how he was for Wright before he was against him?
For NAFTA before he was against it?
For Hezbollah before he was 'gainst them.
Flush away ObaBots, flush away!
And what's the word from the Politburo today?
There are not enough AA AA's and KosKids to elect Hussein President.
Americans will not turn the Oval Office into an Affirmative Action position.
Granpa Munster is setting the debate and the best Obanana can do is "Your mother wears army boots!".
And now word that Hussein is skipping Kentucky...
So much for Hussein riding BreckBoy's jockstrap.
Those two are so fucking gay.
And not in the good sense.
Face it, Hussein has one argument: he's not Bush.
Well he's right. He's not that smart.
Obanana is a second rate ghetto hustler from the corrupt South Side of Chicago.
He's a sleazy pimp with one Shaniqua and two coning up.
But hey, there is always hope.
I hear there is an opening for a new Lawn Jockey outside Al Sharpton's place.
Fortunately it is an Affirmative Action position so Hussein just might get in.
May 17, 2008 8:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama Gains Six S.C. Delegates
http://www.redorbit.com/news/politics/1389169/obama_gains_six_sc_delegates/
By John O'Connor, The State, Columbia, S.C.
May 16--The majority of S.C. delegates earned by former presidential candidate John Edwards said Thursday they would vote for U.S. Sen. Barack Obama at the Democratic convention.
Of the state's eight Edwards delegates, six announced they would support Obama. Two remain uncommitted.
Edwards, an S.C. native and former U.S. senator from North Carolina, endorsed Obama in Michigan on Wednesday night. He asked his delegates -- 19 earned in three states -- to vote for Obama.
Edwards earned more delegates -- eight -- in finishing third in South Carolina than in any other state. In 2004, Edwards won the South Carolina primary, and his support in the Palmetto State continues to run deep.
Under party rules, delegates are free to vote for whomever they choose.
"I was elected to represent John Edwards," said Robert Groce, 40, a delegate from Summerville. "I will honor his request and vote for Obama."
Groce said he has not followed the candidates as closely since Edwards dropped out Jan. 30 but said he could support either Obama or U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton from New York.
"I am very comfortable that either one could assume the office and do a good job. The party has really benefited from having so many good candidates."
John Moylan, a Columbia attorney and Edwards' top S.C. adviser, believed there would be strong support for Obama among Edwards' delegates. Moylan released a list of those supporting Obama, including: Lauren Bilton of Columbia; Daniel Boan of Kershaw; Christine Brennan-Bond of Moore; Michael Evatt of Seneca; and Susan Smith of Pawleys Island.
In addition, Moylan, an alternate delegate, and state Rep. Bill Clyburn, a member of the platform committee, said they, too, would support Obama.
Barnwell resident Tim Moore said he would avoid the "feeding frenzy" and take some time to make a decision.
"I haven't really had time to think about it," Moore said. "I'm inclined to wait a little bit and see how things shake out."
An eighth delegate, Marilyn Hemingway of Georgetown, also remained undecided.
"I am giving serious consideration of his decision to endorse Senator Barack Obama for President, and his endorsement will influence my choice for president," Hemingway said in a written statement. "However, I am not prepared at this time to state the candidate that will receive my vote as a national delegate."
The Associated Press reported at least one of Edwards' New Hampshire delegates endorsed Obama.
As Obama tries to secure the Democratic nomination, S.C. Democratic Party executive director Joe Werner said every delegate matters.
May 17, 2008 9:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
A slew of California endorsements brings Obama closer to the magic number.
http://www.slate.com/id/2191490/
Excerpt:
Obama nabbed a slew of endorsements yesterday on the heels of Edwards' announcement, including California duo Reps. Henry Waxman and Howard Berman. Waxman's backing doesn't carry the weight of a Pelosi or a Reid, but as chair of the House oversight committee, he's considered one of the most powerful congressmen around. (His may be the most feared mustache in Washington.) Berman chairs the chamber's foreign-affairs committee, lending Obama another bit of global-policy cred. Today, fellow California Rep. Pete Stark followed suit. That puts Obama 127.5 delegates away from the nomination (or 121.5 if you count seven pledged delegates who previously supported Edwards).
May 17, 2008 9:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) - Seven South Carolina delegates once committed to former presidential candidate John Edwards are now endorsing Barack Obama.
http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8336639
Excerpt:
On Friday, Marilyn Hemingway and Christine Bond confirmed they've joined five other delegates supporting Obama. The remaining delegate, Tim Moore of Barnwell, said he is not yet ready to commit to anyone other than Edwards.
May 17, 2008 9:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow - the trolls are out in full force this morning. Cowards - posting when they know not too many people are on.
May 17, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
It was inevitable. The moment Obama secured the nomination I knew we'd get an avalanche of the nasty little buggers.
;)
May 17, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bush to show off his Branded Maverick; McCain Of The Panderosa.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0508/McCain_Bush_to_appear_together_in_Phoenix_for_fundraiser.html
McCain, Bush to appear together in Phoenix for fundraiser
President George W. Bush will join John McCain for a fundraiser in the Arizona senator's hometown later this month, McCain's campaign confirms.
The reception, to be held in Phoenix on May 27th, will mark the first time the two have appeared together at a campaign event this year and the first time Bush has lent his fundraising skills to McCain.
It will be a two-tiered event with an early high-dollar reception followed by a general reception.
As with all McCain fundraisers now, the money will be split between funds set up by the campaign and RNC.
McCain and Bush have not appeared together in a political capacity since March 5th, the day McCain went to the White House for lunch and a brief press conference after wrapping up the GOP nomination the night before.
Bush will raise money for McCain the following night in Salt Lake City, but McCain will not be present there.
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Bush's Branded Maverick wants:
More War Years! More War Years! More War Years!
May 17, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bush to show off his Branded Maverick; McCain Of The Panderosa
You gotta love this - he's so stupid he is going to get Bush to campaign with him? Can't McWar and his people read polls?
This shit makes me nervous - I don't trust the machines with Republicans acting all over again like they did in '04 - like they don't have to worry.
May 17, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Tena, we have to expect that somehow the Republicans will turn Bush into an asset and will work on scaring the BeJesus out of simpleminded folk. It worked to get the moron re-elected (or actually elected) in 2004. Obama's message has to be that our failed economic and foreign policies have put us at greater security risk than anything some rogue state might be cooking up. That's a sophisticated message for drum beaters to understand.
May 17, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Is it possible to trace back the comment by "a monkey for Obama" to its origin and have that guy banned from this site?
May 17, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
We've been asking for days.
May 17, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Kool Aid Flavour of the Day: Presidential Punch.
May 17, 2008 11:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Is it any wonder McBush are so frightened of talking to America's "enemies"?
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/05/saudis_see_no_reason_to_raise.phpMay 17, 2008 2:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Barack Obama dealt a Tinkers to Evers to Chance triple play yesterday (force at third). In one day he
1. Dispatched his primary opponent and pivoted to the General Election
2. Nailed Bush
3. Nailed McBush
On the only issue the GOP allegedly retains any credibility, any viability.
Some may have forgotten after the past year of interminable primaries that little of substance separates Clinton and Obama.
That is now past.....welcome to the General Election
May 17, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
People with tiny little brains like hussein tina ...
people who are FOR Hillary and AGAINST obama are basing their choice on
* Experience
* Intelligence
* Moral character
* policy
NOT on the fact that your guy is black.
get over yourselves... you think everything is about race and how wonderful you are because you're above race (those of you who are not black)...
How arrogant you all are... Just like that loser Obama with his big nose held so high in the air...
May 17, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
RaeK - it's an honor to be called arrogant and tiny-brained by you.
I'd cut me own throat if I thought you approved of one thing about me.
May 17, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, what little regard you have for yourself to say such a thing!
Of course I wouldn't expect too much of an obama worshiper..
May 17, 2008 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
There they go again...
calling supporters worshipers...
Still get a kick out of the way the Hillfolk consider supporting a candidate other than their Hillperson, (as in "the Hill", how appropriate) some sort of idol worship.
And why?
because they are nuts. And they project it to us, as in "You must be crazy to vote for anyone I don't like!"
Small minds trap themsleves in ever decreasing circles of incessantly, internally repeated prejudice. Some of them are so self-brainwashing there is no calm eye at the middle of their mental storms.
And how can we recognize them?
They accuse US of idol worshipping a candidate, when they so unrealistically and fruitlessly hold onto thier own hero-worship delusions, that were shattered long ago in the real world outside that menatl maelstrom they encapsulate.
Since February 5th, they have descended daily into those delusions.
May 17, 2008 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
HEY ALL HILL SUPPORTERS, LISTEN UP!!
May 17, 2008 11:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
HEY ALL HILL SUPPORTERS, LISTEN UP!!
If Hillary DOESN'T get the nomination and I still think she might....
We have to stick together and vote for McCain. We'll get another shot in 4 years!!
WE CAN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA. THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY AND CHILDREN ARE AT STAKE !! WE CANNOT TURN OVER THE WHITEHOUSE TO THAT NUT!!!
Remember, if Hillary doesn't get the nomination, VOTE MCCAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEEEIIIIIIAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At least he'll keep us safe!!
Obama couldn't carry his jock strap!!!
May 17, 2008 11:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is the terrorists' "worst nightmare" because he will unite the civilized world against them. Obama needs to turn McCain's bluster right back on him.
May 17, 2008 11:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is the terrorists' "worst nightmare" because he will unite the civilized world against them. Obama needs to turn McCain's bluster right back on him.
May 17, 2008 11:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is set to win the majority on Tuesday, and Hillary will be even more out. Americans can then think about their choices, McCain or Obama. No two could be more different. Do americans want 4 years of seeing young men with their legs blown off and faces burned and bodies brought back for nothing? Most polls say no to the war in iraq. McVain wants this to go on until 2013! Great plan you moron! Face it, this is our choice, and if the voters choose McVain then that is exactly what they deserve. Obama is our chance to have a brilliant,creative man who can surround himself with other intelligent leaders and stand in the international communitee as our greatest leader. America will really blow this chance if he is not elected. It is true that he is the greatest man to run for office since the Kennedy brothers were lost to us in the 1960s by the forces of evil.
May 18, 2008 7:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Greg wrote: "It needs to be restated that John McCain has settled on his message and is sticking with it." And you're saying Barack H. Obama HASN'T settled on his message? I thought he had pretty much settled on that Change thing.
"It's the essentially same message we've heard from the GOP for the last three elections now: If you elect my opponent, you will die." It's called politics. I think if you go back through American history, you'll find that each candidate tells the voters that they'll be much better off with him and attacks the other candidate. Kennedy attacked the GOP over a supposed missle-gap in 1960.
I think that TPM and it's readers should gird themselves to the fact that McCain is going to attack Obama, and stop wetting their pants over each new GOP campaign ad or statement as if this was the first time in history this has happened.
May 18, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, you have to admit Obama is a smooth-talker. I don't know how slick he is. He didn't convince me all that often. But he did a great job of bashing Bush for the Knesset remarks, and then tying McCain to them. He is definitely a smooth-talker.
May 18, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama should never have said in that MSNBC debate that he would meet unconditionally with leaders like Castro and Ahmadinejad. It gave both Hillary and McCain an opening. I really don't think Obama meant that. He's not a fool. I suspect if he would meet with them at all he would set strict pre-conditions. But that's not what he said, so he has to take the heat for his remarks.
But there's more good news for Obama on the Hillary front. Not such good news on the McCain front. And of course Obama probably wishes Gallup wouldn't mention Jeremiah Wright. But the "mathematical certainty" comment must appeal.
May 18, 2008
Gallup Daily: Obama Leads Clinton by 11 Points
Ties previous high-water mark for Obama, recorded in mid-April
PRINCETON, NJ -- Gallup Poll Daily tracking of national Democratic voters from May 15-17 finds Barack Obama with an 11 percentage point lead over Hillary Clinton, 52% to 41%.
Obama's current advantage matches the high-water mark for national Democratic support for his candidacy, previously attained in Gallup Poll Daily tracking from April 12-14.
Immediately after that polling period, Obama's campaign entered a tumultuous phase fraught with fallout from his remarks concerning "bitter" voters in Pennsylvania, negative news coverage of his performance in the April 16 Philadelphia Democratic debate, a loss to Clinton in the April 22 Pennsylvania primary, and renewed controversy surrounding his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
It would seem that all of that is now behind the Illinois senator as the current media focus is centered on the mathematical certainty that he has cinched the nomination, as well as on the war of words between Obama and John McCain over aspects of the Bush administration's foreign policy.
At the same time, Obama is failing to beat presumptive Republican nominee John McCain in Gallup Poll Daily trial heats for the fall election among national registered voters. In polling from May 13-17, support for Obama falls one point shy of McCain's, 45% to 46%. Clinton fares only slightly better, running two points ahead of McCain, 47% to 45%. -- Lydia Saad
May 18, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Otto F: "At the same time, Obama is failing to beat presumptive Republican nominee John McCain in Gallup Poll Daily trial heats for the fall election among national registered voters. In polling from May 13-17." And many of the white voters are lying about being willing to vote for Obama. The Bradley Effect . . .
May 18, 2008 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama does seem to have the perfect opening, now that Bush fils is railing against everyone who ever suggested negotiating with terrorists or radicals in the Middle East to make a devastating point: "uh, you mean like your dad?" It was under the auspices of Bush pere that the Israelis and PLO started negotiating, at the Madrid conference, with the help of his secretary of state, James Baker, who recently wrote in the Iraq Study Group report that negotiating with enemies in the Middle East is crucial to putting U.S. foreign policy back on track:
"Dealing with Iran and Syria is controversial. Nevertheless, it is our view that in diplomacy, a nation can and should engage its adversaries and enemies to try to resolve conflicts and differences consistent with its own interests. Accordingly, the [U.S. and Iraq] should actively engage Iran and Syria in its diplomatic dialogue, without preconditions.
... There must be a renewed and sustained commitment by the United States to a comprehensive Arab-Israeli peace on all fronts: Lebanon, Syria, and President Bush's June 2002 commitment to a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine. This commitment must include direct talks with, by, and between Israel, Lebanon, Palestinians (those who accept Israel's right to exist), and particularly Syria ...
The only lasting and secure peace will be a negotiated peace such as Israel has achieved with Egypt and Jordan."
May 18, 2008 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do hope that team Obama (team Democrat) will do a good job of making sure that everyone understands what McCain's 2 paragraph argument boils down to:
"Elect Obama, and you and your family will be blown up by terrorists."
It's a slightly garbled version of the same mushroom-cloud argument Cheney made about Kerry in 2004. And while I'm at it, prediction: someone in the GOP will specifically mention the prospect of a "mushroom cloud" sooner rather than later to try and make people scared of Obama.
May 19, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink