No. No. No.

Keep Hillary in the Senate!!!

I am starting to wonder how much of her campaigning is really for the superdelegates and how much is aimed at putting pressure on Obama to choose her as VP.

they're going to get her in the White House one way or another--Hillary will probably want a bedroom there. I think Obama should then sleep with one eye open.

Not.a.chance.

I used to worry about HRC pushing for VP. I think at this point, Obama can not offer and not even have to explain.

The thinking goes that she pressures him about the VP slot as she and her supporters will feel she's "owed" the VP slot, or she'll and her hard working, non-college educated white people will take their ball and go home. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Nice try, Terry!

Hillary Clinton and I have never talked about it.

In a pig's eye. There is no way that he would let a bomb like this drop without clearing it first.

Bless my stars. I cannot believe that she wants the job. I am not wild about the idea, but I am even less excited about losing, and if this is what it takes to unify the base in order to win, I would count it an acceptable price to pay. I still find the idea very hard to credit, but I am increasingly coming to the conclusion that this is what her present campaign is all about - forcing the situation to a point where Obama has to pick her as his VP.

Nowhere in here does he say who's on top of the ticket.

Remember they tried offering the VP slot to Obama weeks ago.

McAuliffe: Joint Ticket Would Be "A Great Idea"

Translation: We are beaten. Only losers talk up a joint ticket.

Senator Obama will make his own selection, and Terry McCauliffe will not be consulted.

The public enthusiasm among top OBAMA supporters for an Obama-Hillary ticket will rise roughly in proportion with their success in growing monkeys in their rectums which then take flight upon their unnatural births.

Imagine that -- Terry Mac is excited.

Like the VP slot is some kind of second runner up prize...Nope.

She didn't "deserve" the Presidency, she doesn't "deserve" the Veep position, either.

Obama can do better.

No means no. No is always no. When they say no, they mean 1000 times no.

I'm predicting Napolitano or Sebelius.

I find solace in the comments that seem to show reality is finally settling in. Perhaps now the tone will change and Senator Clinton find her road out in her own time and fashion.

This can go a long way to jump starting the effort for the common goal of ending the eight-year disaster we've all endured.

As to the joint ticket. I think I need more time to make a more reasoned assessment. In the meantime, it seems I'll have plenty to read.

I will be perusing a series over at the New Republic that can be found here:

(http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/05/08/ed-kilgore-on-the-unity-ticket.aspx)

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. & NO.

That wouldn't not be turning the page on the past and only inviting in the stench of scandal after scandal after scandal that will undoubtedly follow the Clintons into Obama's administration.

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. & NO.

At this moment, with all the recent memories of how Hillary has handled her campaign, I cannot abide the thought of Hillary as VP or even in Reid's Senate leadership role.

Why give manipulative Hillary any role that sets her up with any real power to sabotage President Obama as he works hard to change the old games in Washington?

Hillary is not a team player. She'd be a horrible running mate. It would end up being the start of her 2012 presidential campaign--because this is, after all, all about Hillary.

Fuck Terry.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are themselves going to have to decide who they think is going to be their best Vice President.

Like Clinton has a leg in this stupid idea of pairing them.

If you were Obama, would you want Bill walking around the WH?

Hillary for Senate Majority Leader! Hillary for Governor of New York! Take my Senator, please! (Before she ruins our presidential ticket...)

The roadblock won't be Hillary so much. It will be good ole Bill.

And I can't see actually wanting Hillary a heartbeat away from the Presidency anyway. But it's still up to Obama and he doesn't need to make any sort of decision now.

One of the most enjoyable side effects of this election is having Terry McAuliffe consigned to his proper place in the dustbin of history.

Carville, Begala--you're next--buh-bye!

Putting Hillary Clinton on an Obama ticket would be like partnering Roseanne Barr with Fred Astaire.

A good analysis of why this is a bad idea is in TNR:

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/05/09/michael-tomasky-on-the-unity-ticket.aspx

One problem is that I think a Clinton choice would be aimed solely at Democrats. It would be popular among them, but what about non-Democrats? Let's note something that's been little remarked upon so far this season. People keep talking about the stunning turnout in these primaries, and, for primaries, this has surely been the case. About 33 million people have voted.

But how many people voted in the last general election? Around 122 million. With interest seeming higher this year, and if Obama can indeed register many new voters, there is every reason to think that 100 million more people will vote on November 4 than have voted cumulatively over the last 18 weeks. Hillary on the ticket would clearly go down well among a large majority of the 33 million who've voted. But what about the other 100 million? How would putting Hillary Clinton on the ticket strike them?

Kennedy: No veep slot for Clinton

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Kennedy_No_veep_slot_for_Clinton.html

I hate the idea, but I think its necessary. For one, Hillary isn't just ANY second place finisher. She's a national brand within the party and the wife of a former President. She has a HUGE base of supporters, many of whom will pitch in both time and money to see her make it into the WH. Also, it isn't like she got clobbered in the primaries. If anything, she has demonstrated that her supporters were willing to stick by her through four months of campaigning. That's saying something.

There is virtually no other Democrat who ....

A) ... has a national following.
B) ... can generate money and enthusiasm within the same ballpark as HRC
C) ... has gone through a rigorous vetting process and been adjudged to be commander-in-chief material.

The talk about Clinton as VP, as well as rumors about Obama taking on her campaign debt is very frustrating. IMO, not only should she not get the VP slot, she should be downright shunned for the type of campaign she has run. For her to get the nomination now, isn't she advocating a superdelegate override that would have huge implications and a devastating effect on the party? Isn't her message now that we should override and ignore millions of votes (and something like 80% of the black vote) in order to appease white voters? Isn't that her argument? Wouldn't that scenario have a major effect on race relations in the US?

I understand that scenario is certainly not going to play out. But the fact that she is still pushing the idea is so hurtful and damaging that I just don't understand how anyone could consider the idea of her as VP or even the idea of "debt forgiveness". Besides, Obama's message is that of a new Washington, new ideas, etc. Offering her the VP slot or paying her debts just because that's "how it's done" strikes me as old politics in it's worst form.

As Nancy Reagan used to comment: "Just say No."

Another example of the Clintonistas who smoked, but didn't inhale, or was that inhaled, but didn't smoke? MacAuliffe is the epitome of a loser. His Big Blue (Screw the Rest of You) State strategy didn't work in 2000 and 2004 and there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to even allow Hillary close the water closet of the Oval Office.

Let me be more extreme.

Given the poor (sore) loser behavior of Hillary Clinton's campaign and their Swift Boat tactics of the past 3 months against Barack Obama, I say, Clintonistas, that $10.5 Million of self-loaned debt you've given to your campaign.... you're on the hook for that money sister.... every F'ing cent of it!

As reported in the Daily Kos today, Clintonistas have turned the screw-u on Michigan's delegation who brokered a compromise to have their delegates seated, and the pledged votes allocated 69-59, with a 10 vote margin to HRC. NOOO, wasn't good enough for Empress Hillary.

Keep up bad behavior Hillary. The only Political Party that will seat you will be the Joseph Lieberman Independent Democratic Party of Connecticutt. Normally, I'm not one to advocate piling on, but given HRC's conduct following her NC loss and the virtual tie in Indiana (Thanks, Rush Limbaugh, you moron).... this political candidate doesn't deserve a note of recognition.

Sister Clinton, you've got three weeks to shape up your attitude and get with the program. Unify the Democratic Party so we can go out there and kick John McBush's ass around the nation this fall and allow may other Deomcrats to take over for mindless Repug's in the House and Senate.

No Frigging Way!

Her appalling behavior the last couple of days is leading me to believe that she isn't even worthy of Senate majority leader. It is even more appalling considering that she wants $11M paid back to her and Bill and $20M to retire their other campaign debt of which half is owed to Mark Penn! Yeah right.

Obama should just continue to take the high road, act Presidential, take on McCain without even commenting on her, and let her go off and do what she needs to do until she completely runs out of money. Then, he can graciously bid her well and pick Webb, Richardson, or Bayh as his running mate.

Obama should offer to make her the first Supreme nomination. The SC is down one woman and will likely lose the other soon enough, so he'd probably want to nominate a woman anyway. She can make the best use of her legal mind, and 'fight for hard working white people' in a black robe instead of a pant suit. She may even make some good decisions and won't be able to start a war. Best of all we won't have to hear her. Richardson as Sec of State, Edwards as AG, and some old white guy as VP so fewer of the seniors won't be scared. Bada bing, done. Roll them out before August.

I would NOT vote for Obama even if Hillary were the VP candidate.

I Hope like HELL she does NOT even consider this for a minute !

In the event she does NOT get the nom. and I'm still holding out hope that the SDs will see that we need her as the nom to win the GE....

but if they feel they just have to let Adlai Stevenson Obama have it, then she can run again in 2012. I just hope the Dem. party will forgive her for losing. They normally won't accept a candidate 2nd time around like the repugs do.

But another upside of her not getting the nom. is that it will be fun to watch Obama go down in flames while we vote for McCain.

rae

It's 3:00 AM. There's a crisis...

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Hmmmmm..........

This trial balloon appears to be going over like a lead balloon.

Al over at The Field posted a good list of Vice President choices for Barack Obama.

Strategically speaking, the democratic party would benefit a great deal more if Hillary stayed a senator of New York. She's on the Committee on Armed Services, the Committee on Environment and Public Works, and the Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions. Veep is a show horse position and in my opinion her status out ranks it.

Not gonna happen. Uncle Teddy says so.

And she won't bring that much to the ticket. And there is too much bad blood between them.

I would say he should choose Tim Kaine or Jim Webb.

McCain would run ads with video of Obama's own running mate saying that Obama isn't qualified to be commander in chief, but McCain is.

What's she going to say?

Maybe: "I must have been tired all of the times I said that."

Or: "He wasn't ready a few months ago, but campaigning against me prepared him for dealing with terrorist attacks at 3 a.m."

Or: "I was lying. Don't tell me you still take anything I say seriously!"

Ha. Obama ain't Black, he's PINK!

Obama considering Hillary for nomination to Supreme Court.

There's no real upside for Obama. Hillary has a lot of baggage and there are many who would never vote for her under any circumstances. Having her on the ticket will trigger all of the old right wing talking points that bedeviled her during the nineties.

Obama can easily find someone else to will balance the ticket. Edwards, Hagel, Nunn, Richardson. There are plenty of choices.

This seems like it has some advantages support-wise, but I think it's a bad idea. Some Clinton supporters my in fact vote McCain, but the number will be very small. If he has her as VP (2 for 1, natch, enter Willy...) I can see how every single press conference during his term will go. Any decision taken, every statement made, any position moved towards, the first question you'll hear is "Have you discussed this with the VP or the former President?" Having those two anywhere near his administration will be All-Clinton, All the time. I can't see Hillary approaching that job as anything less than the Co-Presidency (after Cheney, she'll even have some precedent, god help us...)

I doubt Clinton wants to be tied to another loser.

She will try again after 4 more years of mcsame.

Nice work Obama kool aid drinkers.

Still waiting on your hero to lead.

I doubt if ever will, all he has to do is write a speech.

kordo - Totally. Both Hillary and Bill love the spotlight too much to play second fiddle to Obama. It's hard to imagine her quietly toeing the line. Ditto Bill.

As Diana said about the menage a trois she had with Charles and Camilla, the presidency would be a little crowded.

Anyone who says that they will vote for McCain or stay home is not a true Democrat, and does not care if the Far Right Wingers stack the Supreme Court for decades to come.

We do not let such Faux Democrats dictate who the VP will be. Piss off Right Wing Arse Trolls.

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. If Obama doesn't see that she's impeached, I'm voting McCain.

Pathetic....monkey chatter....no more no less...

M

I don't think a presidential nominee advocating for change in Washington and a new kind of politics ought to be rewarding 'politics as usual' and 'kitchen sink politics' by saying okay now you can be my VP. Or okay here... let me pay off your debts and all of your own money that you spent that you shouldn't have. That's rewarding irresponsibility.
We are crying out for change and that includes not having someone like Hillary on the ticket. I really want John Edwards to be VP even though he has said he doesn't want the job. I hope Obama tries again to persuade him. I think he is the best man for the job.
I am not very excited about anyone else.
I wrote to the Obama campaign asking them to hold very separate and clear fundraising efforts if they want to raise money to help Hillary with her debts and then I realized that I would be willing to pay $25 to keep her OFF of the ticket! I suprised myself with that. I don't like the idea of a lesser known more obscure VP candidate. I guess I would prefer Bill Richardson after John Edwards only because I think we need all of our democratic Senators working in the senate and can't afford to lose one. I would like to see a hands on VP that will roll up his sleeves and get into it with Senator Obama... bringing about the changes we are hoping for will take some work and a great team makes it much more possible.

Please, tell me this is just a bad joke.

Someone should call ems!

The obama crowd have overdosed on their koolaid. They're so giddy with the fact that their guy only lost Indianna by 2 points instead of 10, that they're talking gibberish.

What the hell are you people muttering? bunch of rubbish that makes no sense except maybe to yourselves. LOL LOL

i've been a big obama supporter, and have absolutely hated hillary at times. on the other hand, there are times when i really like her, namely when she focuses on health care.

fellow obama supporters, it is officially time to let go of our hate. if you really are a progressive, you will give her the benefit of the doubt - she wants to win and what's best for the democratic party. please stop hating - IT's DOING NOTHING BUT HARM!

i think an Obama/Clinton ticket is intriguing personally.