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Hillary Holds Private Conference Call With Her Super-Dels: "I Know This Is Not Easy"

Hillary held a private rally-the-troops conference call with her super-delegate supporters this afternoon, urging them to believe that "this race is not over," vowing to them she'd promote Dem unity after the primary, and conceding that she knows what they and the party are going through "is not easy."

Somewhat tantalizingly, Hillary also claimed that there were back-channel talks of some kind going on between the two campaigns, possibly about how to maintain Democratic unity after the primary. Asked by a super-delegate whether there were discussions going on between the two camps about what would happen after the voting concluded, she said:

"There's a lot of communication between both of the campaigns all the time. I don't know how specific it is, but we have very open lines of communication...I know that both Senator Obama and I are committed, and the campaigns are as well, to making sure that when this is resolved" we will do everything we can to "unify the party." She didn't elaborate further.

The call -- convened for super-dels committed to supporting her -- provided a glimpse into the campaign's behind-the-scenes efforts to prevent supporters from bolting even as her prospects grow bleaker by the day.

I was able to listen to the call in its entirety.

Hillary projected a surprisingly cheerful tone despite recent events, and if she is having doubts about what's going to happen, she didn't show it on the call. "Despite what some in the media are saying, this race is not over," she said.

Hillary top adviser Harold Ickes was on the call, too. Some noteworthy tidbits from the call:

* Ickes claimed that there was no discussion internally on the campaign of the possibility that she would angle for a veep slot. "There's no talk within the Hillary campaign about that," Ickes said in response to a questioner.

* Ickes came under questioning from a super-delegate who said he would have "a problem" if she didn't win the pledged del count or the popular vote, and declined to say what she would do. Indeed, he repeatedly maintained that she would still be ahead in the popular vote at the end of the contest, Florida and Michigan included, and predicted flatly that she would be behind by less than 100 delegates at the end of the voting.

* Hillary sought to persuade supporters to hold the line by vowing to them that she would do everything she could to make sure the party unified behind the eventual nominee. "I know this is not easy," Hillary said. She added: "We will close ranks and I know we will be totally unified going forward."

"I just want to underscore my gratitude," she concluded. "This is bigger than me...it's about standing firm [behind] the values we share."


Comments (232)

Please accept the thanks of a grateful community for listening to these conference calls. Maybe after June 3, you won't need to.

I just have to say that this:

Indeed, he repeatedly maintained that she would still be ahead in the popular vote at the end of the contest and predicted flatly that she would be behind by less than 100 delegates at the end of the voting

sounds very much like The Math of Karl Rove's in 2006. And I am particularly taken with "she would still be ahead in the popular vote" part. Still? She's not even ahead, now. I hate to be flippant, but I want some of what Harold appears to be on.

I don't think you do. Sniffing glue does not provide a good buzz.

They are very much counting upon the rules committee to seat the MI and FL delegates AS VOTED in the unauthorized primaries, meaning Obama gets nothing (no delegates nor popular votes) from Michigan.

If that is what their last hope rides upon, then they're in DEEP trouble since Clinton loyalists on the committee (at least one) have already said that their loyalty to the party and country and rules supersede any loyalty they have to a single person.

GAME OVER. Bring on McCain...

They are still behind even with MI/FL counted.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

Game Over! The rest of us have already moved on.

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=VhlhE32SoXs

Hillary Clinton as herself

outstanding island girl! Get you a case a beer for thtat.

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WTG, IslandGyal. A fitting portrait-- even if, by extension, it seems an unduly harsh commentary on Ms. Desmond's character.
:o)

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I thank Sen. Clinton:

...for her extra and ordinary service in Bosnia "welcoming ceremonies" under complicated, imaginary and tricky sniper fire conditions...just visualize the horror of it all.

Clinton's Real Electability Powerpoint

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/05/clintons-real-electability-pow.php

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I have no idea what Harold is on but Hillary is definitely in survival mode. That's like when your gas gage is below empty, there's money in your pocket, you're passing gas stations and rather than stopping to fill up, you're busy calculating how much gas you have left in your tank compared to how many miles you have to go before you're home. You don't stop. You decide to keep going. (Nevermimd whether your car will even start the next morning.)

You're in survival mode.

Indeed. It seems that Senator Clinton has failed the Commander in Chief test. She is so focused on winning the nomination that she has lost all touch with reality. Is this kind of determination in the face of self-destruction that we are looking for in the Commander in Chief? Hasn't the current Commander in Chief made the dangers of such poor judgement abundantly clear to us?

Speaking of which, what kind of marks on the Commander in Chief exam should Senator McCain be given?

HANG IN THERE GIRL !!!!

Don't let this Cult bullshit you out.

YOU have the Broad Base, not that idiot.

America Needs you to Keep fighting!

What a fighter but you chose the kool aid.

Lets see him unite the party to prove his bs.

We know he will not lead.

As of 5/10/2008 more people have voted for the Kool Aid, more states have been won by the Kool Aid and more pledge delegates (the ONLY metric that really matters) have been won by the Kool Aid.

Care for a drink?

We call it Presidential Punch.

Care for a drink?

We call it Presidential Punch.

Awesome.

Does that mean our guy's a fighter?

♪♪♪ What a punch!

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Bush is a fighter so...what's your point...!?!?

No...it's related to the kool aid comment. As if it's "presidential punch."

I know... it's hard when you have a whole thread making funny comments about each other.

I am not a bushie!!! (sorry if I confused you!)

Mmmmm...yummy! Refreshing! More, please!

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I read most of these diatribes and I realize that you all sound like a bunch of hillbillies from West Virginia. I mean if your going to take an interest in this race, at least educate yourself beyond the 8th grade education you were probably passed through. Seriously I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but you jerkoffs are just plain stupid. Do you know why America is falling behind in the world? Too many of us are looking after your dumb butts. Don't take my gun because I need it to protect my shanty and my wife I mean sister. Don't vote for Obama he's a Muslim. You wouldn't know a Muslim if one blew up your k-5 high school. If I could break my vote in half I would give Obama his white half.The other half I would trade for a six pack. Goodness, I am amazed at how America is still standing with those of you here. America's IQ has dropped in the last forty years because of 50,000.00 and below white people. I am a white person making less than fifty grand a year because I choose to, but I am smart enough to realize that most of you bastards complaining are just pissed because the AA, the Jew, the Hispanic are doing as well as you or better than you. America is about to be taken from your stupid confederate asses and handed with pride to those who wish to live in a diverse multi cultural paradise. It will finally be achieved in full when white people over 60 are finally dead. Good riddance to the poison in this once great society and soon to be great again. As a white man I will proud to to be led by any great man or woman regardless of creed,religion, gender, or handicap. Piss off you ranting rednecks. Come play again 2016 when you will be a dying breed in elections.

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Dude, you sound bitter.

" I mean if your going to take an interest in this race, at least educate yourself beyond the 8th grade education"

shouldn't that be "you're"?

Please, don't feed the trolls.

"We call it Presidential Punch."
Vintage 2008...smooth.

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well said, gotalife.

the obama supporters will be the ones crying after he loses to mccain in november. it feels terrible to write it, but it's true.

but of course, they'll blame the loss on hillary.

you can mark my words. we'll come back after the loss in november, and a big, fat "told ya so" will be waiting here.

america, wake up. only clinton can win this.

consider them marked Okee.

When Obama wins the nomination, I expect you'll suck it up and apologize for ever doubting him???

Either way, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy if we don't come together to beat the GOP.

Hillary can't win without Obama's motivated young voters, Obama can't win without Hillary's motivated older voters.

If you're going to sit on the sidelines just to be 'right' about a candidate, then aren't you ensuring that the Bush policies get at least 4 more years???

*IF* this race is over, why would you not put your passion behind Obama's campaign???

(Gotalife, I already know you'll bitch about it for 8 years. I'm talking to Okee who seems like a level-headed Dem who is disappointed with the results, which is a fair emotion given the temperment of the race of late).


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honestly? yeah, i'm angry and disappointed. who doesn't want to see their candidate win? who doesn't feel angry when their candidate is demonized and bludgeoned to a pulp?

truthfully, i'll swallow my pride and back obama so that this country can have a democratic president. i do not want john mccain in office. i do not want ANY republican in the white house, for that matter. yes, i want clinton in office. but i can see her losing (no need to correct me with 'she already lost' - i can see that). what is it, my pride? maybe i can't accept her defeat and move my support until SHE quits. i need to see the headline. i need to hear her say, "i'm done," and then i can accept the defeat. i've tried reasoning with myself, but i just can't move from that.

i'm a person of color, and have seen the demagoguery spewing from mouths of neighbors and friends in small towns. i picture that unfolding across this nation. what will the republican party come up with to frighten the people of this nation? i know obama isn't a fucking muslim. and if he were, what do i care? why can't a muslim be president of this nation anyway?

i've seen obama take the high road many, many times. but how will his nature unfold when the republican machines goes into full effect? what will happen to his man? will he fight back? will he accept the dirty fighting once it seems truly necessary to do so? all i can think of is how hopeful we were that john kerry was going to win. there was no doubt about it. and look what happened.

when obama officially gets the nomination, i want him to win. i do. but are we being naive? does he REALLY stand a chance? i want him to. but my bitter perspective on politics...tells me otherwise.

hey okee, I appreciate your thoughts, and your commitment to putting a dem in the white house in nov, even if it isn't your preferred candidate.

Okee, you're a real Democrat. I'm proud to share the party with you.

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thanks. i really appreciate that.

i realize the comments i've previously posted have been inappropriate, rude, and ignorant. i apologize to anyone who was offended, and especially to those i offended with intent.

you know, while i'm being open, i should explain this sudden change of heart. i'm reading senator clinton's autobiography. but i can't bring myself to finish it. every day i try, i just stop and think that present actions aren't matching what's being described in the book. idealism is being contrasted by real-life dirty politics.

how many times did senator obama discuss monica? whitewater? the impeachment? perjury? ZERO. thank you, senator obama. but i can't say the same for you, senator clinton.

i've realized senator clinton and president clinton have pretty much ruined their standing in many communities around the country. my head tells me but my heart refuses to accept. but it's right there, out in the open. i was proud of the clintons, and instead hillary has chosen to make a mockery of herself - an educated, powerful woman, and she's reduced herself to illogical math counts and knowingly breaking rules. suddenly she says the delegate count minimum should change from 2,025? that's when something really clicked in me. the rules are not to be changed. respect them. if we all agree on it, then we change the rules. but don't change them to suit you, senator clinton. you know better.

if she gets the nomination at this point, there will be nothing honest about it. a win is voters casting your name. a backroom deal is not a win. it's not, senator clinton. maybe that's how things worked in the past, but not anymore. there is too much at stake. i've supported you from day one, since the first day that you announced your exploratory committee, and let me tell you now: that is not a win. i could never celebrate something like that. i just couldn't.

i don't know why i've suddenly vented here. it's been a long time coming, maybe.

sorry for treating this like a blog. but possibly this is a first step for me, to move on to something bigger...

Okee, many of us, and my wife and I for sure, held the Clintons in the same high esteem you did when the voting started in January. Hell, we have pictures of them in our house, a letter from Bill in response to our letter supporting him during the impeachment proceedings, a calendar from Bill's library, a DVD of funny outtakes of them, a bumper sticker from the library that says "I miss Bill." We were not Clinton bashers. Quite the opposite.

Their fall from grace has been shockingly swift and utterly disheartening. I'm truly sorry I had to see it. I still hold out hope for their redemption and resurrection. But not in this nominating race. One of the main reasons I want her to bow out and step aside is so that my image of them as heroic Americans can stop bleeding and begin to heal. If they will turn about face and become strong advocates for our nominee, that will help immensely. Here's hoping that begins sooner, rather than later.

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Okee,
I've been reading TPM for years, but have never felt the desire to respond to a comment until I read yours.
I was once a Hillary & Bill supporter, but became disillusioned for the same reasons as you. I, like you, am deeply saddened to see what the Clintons have done to their proud legacy.
My 15 year-old son convinced me to look at Obama, and now I strongly support him. I believe deeply that we need a change in the style of politics in our nation, because the type practiced for the past 15 years has ruined the country I love.
I have hope because younger people are enthused about the kind of change Obama represents. I desperately want them to be right to trust him and desperately want him to be right myself. At any rate, I'm willing to gamble on him being right, because it is so evident to me that all the other paths will lead us closer to irreversible peril.

Good for you, Okee. I've read many of your posts and I know this is hard stuff to come to terms with. I appreciate your openness.

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Here's what I told a couple of old people today who were reciting the whole "secret Muslim, won't salute the flag" bullshit. I asked them if they had heard John McCain or any other political opponent say that. They said no. I said, well, if it was true, wouldn't that be the easiest thing to do to win against him? If they aren't saying it, it's because they know it's not true and they'll get caught in a big lie. This is why they float this stuff as rumors - so they won't ever have to be called out on doing the lying openly.

They'll still vote for McCain, but at least they shut up after that.

Look, the fact is, most white people over 60 are going to vote McCain. But white men over 60 were going to vote McCain anyway, along with probably a third to a half of the white women over 60. It's a Republican-friendly age demographic to begin with.

But my point is, this bullshit is fairly easy to deflect with just basic common sense. Which actually does get through to some people, and which Obama has shown himself very competent at expressing.

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To paraphrase your reply:

If that were true, McCain would say it, but he can't afford to say it because it's nothing but a big lie.

I like that. It's a good, simple response to a wide range of smears, and best of all, it leaves nothing to argue about. Cool!

Most of the people over 65 will vote for him, but I expect him to at least split the 60-65 voters.

I doubt there's ever been a time in our history when the basic outlook of 60 year olds has ever been so different from that of 70 year olds.

My father is 91. Completely against the war. He's a lifelong repub... but he won't vote McCain!

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Hers what I say to those who insult Obama.

I read most of these diatribes and I realize that you all sound like a bunch of hillbillies from West Virginia. I mean if your going to take an interest in this race, at least educate yourself beyond the 8th grade education you were probably passed through. Seriously I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but you jerkoffs are just plain stupid. Do you know why America is falling behind in the world? Too many of us are looking after your dumb butts. Don't take my gun because I need it to protect my shanty and my wife I mean sister. Don't vote for Obama he's a Muslim. You wouldn't know a Muslim if one blew up your k-5 high school. If I could break my vote in half I would give Obama his white half.The other half I would trade for a six pack. Goodness, I am amazed at how America is still standing with those of you here. America's IQ has dropped in the last forty years because of 50,000.00 and below white people. I am a white person making less than fifty grand a year because I choose to, but I am smart enough to realize that most of you bastards complaining are just pissed because the AA, the Jew, the Hispanic are doing as well as you or better than you. America is about to be taken from your stupid confederate asses and handed with pride to those who wish to live in a diverse multi cultural paradise. It will finally be achieved in full when white people over 60 are finally dead. Good riddance to the poison in this once great society and soon to be great again. As a white man I will proud to to be led by any great man or woman regardless of creed,religion, gender, or handicap. Piss off you ranting rednecks. Come play again 2016 when you will be a dying breed in elections.

"i've seen obama take the high road many, many times. but how will his nature unfold when the republican machines goes into full effect? what will happen to his man? will he fight back?"

First, thank you for acknowledging that he has taken the high road many times.

Second, he has stated that he has been restrained in his response to Clinton, that he did not wish to get dirty with another Democrat. The Republicans, however, are a whole 'nother ball game. He has said he will not be so restrained. He'll do fine.

Okee: You ask, "does he REALLY stand a chance?" Answer: yes. The proof is in the pudding... he beat HRC. THAT is the real test of his political meddle.

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Many of us are very unhappy with the black block voting that has so skewed this nomination process. Many of us are unhappy about the personal, hyperbolic attacks on Hillary by Obama supporters.

Obama is a very vulnerable candidate. I think the republicans are going to dismantle him in the fall. They won't be constrained from mentioning the obvious about him. And the caucus state strategy that propelled him into the lead in the primary won't do crap for him in the GE. And, even though I know it will result in me being called in a racist, that black block voting will not win Obama the election.

I don't like Obama. I don't like how the black community turned on the Clintons. But I'll vote for him in the fall but I fear the vast majority of people across this country are going to reject HIM in droves. Race was used to win him this nomination so when race is used to defeat him in the fall, there's no one to blame but himself.

"And, even though I know it will result in me being called in a racist, that black block voting will not win Obama the election. I don't like Obama. I don't like how the black community turned on the Clintons."

LNAB, I am not going to call you racist, but rather uninformed about the AA voting block. I think you maybe falling for the media's slice and dice of exit polls bias reporting. There is a reason why the African American vote is so essential to the nominating process, the community has been extremely loyal to the Democratic party and the Clintons. AA were original "working class" demographic claimed by Bill Clinton presidency.

The fact of the matter is Bill and Hillary are very much responsible for the loss of the African American base. At the start of the election the African American base favored Clinton at 82%. It was Bill's comments in SC and Hillary's comments on Martin Luther King, Jr. and LBJ that destroyed that loyalty and infuriated the AA base. The comments were a slap in the face of those who supported his candidacy in the wake of the Clinton's struggles with Ken Starr.

Their comments, as well as Obama's ability to win over white states with very low African American populations, angered the AA base and caused the shift of loyalties from 82% Hillary/ 8% Obama -- to 82% Obama /8% Hillary. You have to ask how could a candidate completely lose an entire voting block in the course of 7 months.

Below is a little history as to how the voting block supported Democratic presidential candidates. This was taken from another TPM using SurveyUSA data.

The vote percentages given to Democrats and Republicans in recent elections are as follows:

1984 Walter Mondale 90% Ronald Reagan 9%
1988 Michael Dukakis 90% George H.W. Bush 10%
1992 Bill Clinton 83% George H.W. Bush 10%
1996 Bill Clinton 84% Bob Dole 12%
2000 Al Gore 90% George W. Bush 9%

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Your are so wrong. 16.7 million people have voted for Obama (actually more but I'll get into that later). At least 14 million of them are WHITE. There are not that many black people in the US. They are about 10% of total population. I am a white woman and I don't even know any black people because of where I live and everyone I know voted for Obama. Look at the states he won in HUGE blowouts: Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska, Wyoming, Idaho, Washington, Alaska, Maine, North Dakota, Wisconsin, Virginia, Colorado, Connecticut, Utah, Vermont, etc. In addition, there were no exit polls done in the almost all white Caucus states nor do they "count" in the popular vote. You have to extrapolate the caucus states to get a popular vote count. Blacks are the most reliably and loyal Democratic voting block. They are not voting for Barack b/c he is half-black. In Barack's first US Congressional race in 2000 the only ward he won in the Chicago district was an all white Irish Catholic middle-class ward (see TIME cover story) that he won overwhelmingly. He didn't win any of the black vote. Remember HRC was leading him in the black vote until a few months ago- he wasn't black enough? NO! They didn't KNOW him! And it's kind of insulting for you to state that blacks are voting for him b/c he is half black. I guess whites are voting for hime b/c he is half white? Is that it? FYI, I approaced a large group of black men playing basketball in a park yesterday in a voter reg drive and quite a few of them asked me "What's wrong with Hillary?"- I am in NY. And I explained Obama's positions to them. They wanted to know what he stood for. Remember he didn't campaign in NY so folks aren't very familiar with him here. So, these black guys weren't just interested in voting for Barack b/c he is half black. You have it all WRONG.

http://www.eyesonobama.com/blog/content/id_15692/title_No-Advantage-for-Clinton-Among-White-Male-Voters/

Okee, thanks for being so gracious in spite of your candidate's defeat. And I'm really glad that you're committed to helping a Democrat win this election no matter what. I hope (and believe) that Obama will succeed ... I hope his success will help restore your faith that some politicians really do want to help the people of this great country. Meanwhile, lots of work to be done to make that happen!

Who's we?

You and your chicken?

What the fuck does this even mean?

Is it me, or do gotalife's posts these days sort of resemble really bad haikus?

I have one for you:

denial for sure
gotalife, getalife now
hillary is toast.

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Hillary is our Huckabee. I respectfully suggest that TPM and TMP-EC move on. She's not newsworthy anymore.

I think even Huckabee doesn't deserve such an insult.

More like Mitt Rommney :)

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I just want to underscore my gratitude," she concluded. "This is bigger than me...it's about standing firm [behind] the values we share.

Other than the "black guy can't win" value, what shared value of Hillary's campaign isn't covered by an Obama nomination? I'd say Hillary's ego, but she said "bigger than me" so she purportedly isn't talking about that. If it's about "a woman in the white house no matter what," I'd only have to say that it might be a value, but one that perhaps isn't quite as important as the bigger picture.

I'm left to conclude she's full of BS and it isn't "bigger than her," it's just her. It's about her. And scary black men.

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What came to mind is Hillary's church (or whatever it is), "The Family" under Doug Coe. It's all about getting and using power to create "build God's "dominion" on earth". It's not just political leaders who are members, it includes generals and other kinds of leaders. She's been in it since 93 but has graduated to a new cell. (Really, that's what the small groups are called)

And really about it all. I assume you know I am not making it up. I've read about it but until I read that excerpt I never realized it might be real to her in terms of these decisions. But it would certainly explain the "values" and the bigger than herself part. (Obama is pretty arrogant to try to mess with their God's plans! That's even creepier. Now I hope she is just a member of the KKK or something and it's white values, just no God thing))

She says at the end that "this is bigger than me"; but it's not. The only reason that she is still in the race is because she wants to win, not for some idealogical difference with Obama or some issue that she is trying to champion; just her own desire and ambition.

She makes me sick. But the superdelegates (and media) who buy her bullshit make me even sicker.

Ignorant and stupid, they are. Is that what it takes to be chosen as a superdelegate? Where DO they find these people?

This is truly creepy.

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Hillary: "This is bigger than me, If I do not win,we can not count on Obama to Obliterate seventy million men, women, and children."

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i just love how the "hope and change" supporters are also the nastiest of all.

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Weren't you the one posting "FUCK YOU" and stuff on the night of the NC, IN primaries?

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Just checked, yep okee made about 6 "fuck you" posts to people. Class.

give okee a break. He's made it to acceptance, the final stage of greiving. NC night he was still in the anger stage. It sucks to have your person lose. It sucks even worse to have a person you deeply respected turn into something you nearly despise in front of your face.

Welcome aboard the Obama train. I understand your fears about whether or not America will vote for him, but don't sweat it. We only need 51% of the EC and he will get that. I am quite confident that the Obama campaign now has a well thought out battle plan for the general and the EC race.

Obama's not perfect, by any means. But he is the best candidate to win if for no other reason than his brillant primary campaign. He took down a giant in the political world. McCain is a chump and doesn't hold a candle to Clinton. Grandpa Munster is going to be easy to put away.

To everyone else, it is time to say bygones. The Clinton people are on our team.

jamas nos venceran

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I am perfectly willing to give okee a break. But when he attacks an Obama supporter for being nasty, he should be reminded of his own nastiness.

It is a two way street.

Aw, now you're going to go and make me regret the nice things I said about you earlier. . .

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Geez, people! Come on, get over it!
Many terrible things have been said on all sides. And of course, as long as there is no (admitted) resolution to the race, the fur continues to fly. But isn't it time that those of us who support Obama's notion of a different kind of politics start to follow his example?

The delusional Hillary "I Rejoice In My Racist Supporters" Clinton. Ickes sounds even worse.

I had no idea that "Broad Coalition" equaled "Small Minded Racists Who Plan To Help the Republicans When I Lose the Nomination."

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hmm. sure you are referring to the "typical white" supporters? remember when clinton threw her white grandmother under the bus?

oh, wait...

She didn't do so only because inside polling indicated it wouldn't help.

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that's right - keep ignoring reality!

Sigh. It was snark. Your anger, evident in your posts, is kinda off putting, you know?

And for all your comments today, you haven't said one thing positive about the candidate you feel so strongly about. Your comments have been directed at other readers.

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No one threw anyone's grandmother anywhere. If I say my father was a homophobe because he was a homophobe, that's simply known as telling the truth. If I place it in context saying that he was in many other ways a very fine man, who had this unfortunate prejudice, it would clarify that I considered the flaw in the totality of who he was and loved and respected him anyway, while not being blind to the fact that he was not perfect.

Which is what Obama did in reference to his grandmother.

Is your mommy perfect? If you can think of ways that she isn't, does this make you a bad person? If you ever speak to anyone else about her flaws and strengths, does this make you an ungrateful child?

Grow the hell up.

Hey Greg -

Did ANY of these supers ask her about her "white" comments? And if so, how did she respond?

And since you've heard the call, who are the Supers she was talking too?

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She's happy?

War With Iran Might Be Closer Than You Think
http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2008/05/09/war-with-iran-might-be-closer-than-you-think/

I bet she is...

I will never, I repeat never support this neocon.

Oh but it is best when we hear it from her own lips with other high ranking officials who agree with her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFZL33nPoEU

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HILLUSIONAL!!!!


A fighter doesn't keep fighting when the last bell has rung.

Just be ready for next week, when she wins West Virginia and starts crowing about how well she polled among Klansmen.

That and the Weinstein Brothers threatening to break people's arms should guarantee at least another week of this train wreck.

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klansmen? christ.

so you are generalizing an entire state of people now? gee, wonder what you would say about a state with a large population of black voters like, say, mississippi?

yeah, and hillary is the racist.

When you're done shaking that strawman, the Wizard Of Oz wants to give him a brain.

You might want to get in line yourself, puddles.

Greg,

Apart from irrelevant Hillary posts on back-room deals (or threats going by Yickes' repeated calls to hold the line), how about a post on Obama's massive voter registration drive being kicked off today ? Even Ben Smith is going gaga over it going by the response to the drive.

This is going to be the real "game changer" she used to talk about.

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I was just thinking the same thing...

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This old white guy has waited all his life for a President that will promise to emancipate him.

Do Pandersuits make good goose stepping costumes?

Springtime for Hillary and Verminry.

Destined to become a hit Broadway show.

David Duke has bought out the front row.

Oh, you gotta see this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Lstkiexhc

I went, I saw, I laughed. Thank you.

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OMG -- I'm still crying... with laughter.

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Hillaryous

Funniest thing I have seen all primary season. I am literally howling.

"Despite what some in the media are saying, this race is not over,"

How so?

Anyone know-- what's Hillary Clinton spent more time this week doing? Campaigning in West Virginia? Or trying to convince superdelegates not to bolt? From the news this week I could barely tell if Sen. Clinton had even been to WV this week, it kinda sounded like she sent Bill and then spent Friday in Kentucky. If you find yourself spending more time trying to convince people the campaign's not over than you do actually campaigning... that doesn't sound very functionally different from the campaign actually being over to me.

She is having trouble holding her own dels.
Says something doesn't it?

The movie bombed at the box office but the trailer is still running.

Oh you mean this trailer?: (no it is not Hitler)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exsmFDYyK4U