Hillmentum!

To me, this raises the interesting question of whether Indiana still matters or not. I'm guessing it does, but just barely.

Hillary hangs on.....by her fingernails.

and so it goes

*clap, clap, clap* Congratulations, Obama. You have, once again, bounced back and defied expectations. What more is there to say?

This won't even be in the papers tomorrow, it broke at 1AM.

Hillary won Indiana like she won Guam or Texas.

It's a virtual tie, which is a loss- a huge one coupled with NC.

It's. Over.

And it's not even a big enough win to allow the Hillary campaign to credibly continue to raise doubts about Obama's ability to compete in big states, either.

They didn't "credibly" raise doubts about Obama's ability to compete in big states before tonight, either. Have you read Josh's piece on why Hillary's attempts to extrapolate from primary results to general election results were thoroughly bogus?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/190967.php

It's All O-VER!

Zogby was the best of the pollers for the night.

He had Obama at +14 in NC, Obama wins by +15. Only PPP had it in double digits and Survey USA at 5 missed it by 10 points.

He had Obama +2 in IN, Clinton wins by +2, within the margin, and nowhere near the Survey USA number of 12 points for Clinton.

Man I wish I could say without ambiguity it was over, however, something tells me she will keep dragging that carcass of a campaign down the road

Can we start bashing McCain now?

McCain really is the real target now. Let's focus on him, 100%. No need to continue to even talk of Hillary in comparison to Obama.

I hope this is over. I hope that Hillary can see the writing on the wall. But I've been fooled before. I'm just assuming she's taking it all the way to the convention unless I hear the words "I concede" directly from her lips. And even then, I'll check to make sure she hasn't crossed her fingers.

She is taking the day off today after this, reportedly. She can go win in West Virginia and Kentucky now if she likes, but she may be reassessing the value of that. If Obama should lose in November, she can still run in 2012 if she does not now demolish the party in a cavalier way. Running any more just for the sake of running, knowing full well that one cannot plausibly win? That may not be worth the long-term damage to herself.

By the way, where is Gotnolife in all this? I thought our gal was going to win both states, delivering a hammering blow in the Hoosier state?

Hmm? No time to go mute, Gotnolife!

You had to (almost) feel sorry for Lanny Davis on CNN, where he was reduced to saying, "Yeah, but if you count Michigan and Florida ..."
He knows it's over, but until Hillary herself concedes as much, he has to spout the official Clinton line.
Hopefully, a slew of superdelegates will screw up their courage tomorrow and signal that the primary race is no longer in doubt.
This was her last, desperate shot. She fell far short.
I don't see her appeal for renewed donations having any resonance; maybe she can coast till June on the off-chance that Obama gets hit by a bus, but that's all she's got left.

Ok, first of, stopping mentioning gotalife, lol, do you really miss him?

Here's a McCain question:

Looking at the county to county results, on average about 30% of the Republican voters DID NOT VOTE MCCAIN!

Huckabee, Paul, Romney take 30% of the vote from the declared nominee. I think that represents a major problem for McCain, it's not that they will vote Democrat, it's that they will stay home in November...

Gotalife is Gettingstrife at the the twisted knife that was rammed into his bitter life

Where is gotalife ? Where is gotalife ?
LOL

Just did the math in North Carolina. With the large, very pro-Obama Mecklenburg County still to report a few percent of its result, it seems likely that Obama will achieve a 15 point win in North Carolina.

(It's currently at about 14.81%, but Mecklenburg favors him 75%-25%.)

Hillary's win in Indiana seems likely to be about 1.8%.

It's the beginning of the end for Obama.

Congrats Hillary Clinton

It's on to the Vineyard for the Summer.
I will still be wondering why Obama voted for Cheney's Energy Bill. Something stinks to high Heaven.

Hillary: Full speed ahead...starting the day after tomorrow...
Well hill just announced that she is going into hiding for a day to shed her skin. How will she emerge?

and America is going to have a "learning experience" about how affirmative action works. Man oh man, apparently Rice's performance as NSA wasn't enough to drive the point home: promoting black people to positions they can't handle might make you feel good, but it has a fearsome price. Rice, worst NSA in history by commom acclaim. Clarence Thomas, clearly a third rate hack who never should have been appointed to the Supreme Court. Donna Brazille, a nice ornament that cost Gore the election. The list goes on and on....

What strikes me most of all is the abrupt shift of the media - I was watching MSNBC until they called Indiana for Clinton and they were talking about Obama as if he were the presumptive nominee and talking about Clinton's campaign in the past tense. Something that we've known for months now seemed to only become apparent to them last night (although, truth be told, they have known it was over for months and kept it going for their own amusement). She's got to see that once the media declares your campaign DOA it's really, truly time to fold the tent and go home. I think I detected a tiny bit of that in her speech last night.

What got me most annoyed was MSNBC's constant chatter about the possibility of her being on the ticket as VP and that Obama is going to have to take that seriously. Absolutely not - that's bullshit and I don't think he's going to go that route. Hopefully the chatter about the "Dream Ticket" (which is anything but a dream, in my opinion - more like a nightmare) was done for their own amusement and enjoyment.

And one gem from Al Giordano from the Field (he's been following Operation Chaos very closely):

And if anyone thinks that Rush Limbaugh didn’t deliver at least 19,000 votes to Senator Clinton in Indiana, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

http://208.76.84.21/thefield/?p=1164

Funny thing is, Limbaugh failed miserably, didn't he? Despite his best efforts, he's going to have Obama to face in the fall (something obviously he didn't want), and I don't think there's anything that can stop Obama - not Limbaugh, not the Swift Boaters, certainly not Clinton.

...and one more thing. In general, arguments from analogy are notoriously weak, and sometimes even fallacious.

Okay, maybe two things...I have a sad confession to make. While I deeply want to believe that we can never have a president worse than Bush, I have to admit that it is at least possible. After all, I once thought that it would not be possible for the US to have a president that I disliked more than Reagan (you know, that "snowballs in hell" feeling). Sadly, I was SO wrong...which makes me very leary of saying "no one could be worse than Bush." While I have to admit that it may be possible, I NEVER want to see it!!

Something to keep in mind for the general:

26% OF REPUBLICAN VOTERS AGAINST MCCAIN IN NC
22% GO AGAINST MCCAIN IN INDIANA...

We've been so preoccupied with the question of whether Hillary has permanently damaged support for Obama with her slimey attacks, we've lost sight of the fact that McCain still has a huge chunk of Republicans who look like they will never vote for him.

For him to lose about a quarter of the vote with no real opponent is pretty bad. Especially for Republicans who would normally unify to vote for a brain-dead weasel if the party ran one (hypothetically speaking, of course).

So all the talk about Obama not getting the white, working class vote may be diverting our attention from McCain's big problem: not even having his base lined up.

Prediction: Terry McAuliffe will be on Fox within the hour, claiming to have raised 6 billion dollars since last night.

Lets get to work building the Democratic party. What senate seats are in play? What house seats are in play? What about your local legislature? Here in my neck of the woods we have been treated to years of Republican rule. The local state senator absolutely hates creating jobs. I bet if you are suffering from a similar Republican administration your local candidates could use your help. What have you done to help your local democratic candidates? Have you met any of them? Have you contributed to your state party? Have you been to an event?

Staring at a keyboard is fun, but getting out and doing something is even more fun.

"It's over for her.

Who will continue to fund this?"

Richard Mellon Scaife

My predictions from last week:

1. Obama wins NC by 15 pts
2. Clinton wins IN by 3 pts
3. Eric posts about how Clinton's 3 pt win in IN is decisive but Obama's 15 pt win in NC is really a loss since he needed an even bigger landslide.
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So I was within one point on both states, which as far as I can tell is better than any of the pollsters did. Still waiting on #3, but I think even Eric has given up.

What do I win?