Hillary Supporter Dianne Feinstein Pushes Her As Veep
Another prominent Hillary supporter amplifies the growing Hillary-as-veep drumbeat:
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), a Clinton booster, told The Post, "I am one that believes that if it works out that Senator Obama is the nominee, the strongest ticket would be Senator Clinton as vice president. No question in my mind...."The weight of the states he carried versus the states she carried. It's different. And, therefore, if you combine them both, you've got the best electoral path."
Feinstein said she promotes an Obama-Clinton ticket with everyone she talks to.
This one's key, because someone like Feinstein has the capacity to be influential among super-dels. And any campaign to make Hillary veep would likely target the super-dels in hopes that they in turn would pressure the Obama camp to take her.
Separately, one uncommitted super-del is now also calling on Obama to do this. Senator Tom Carper of Delaware also told the Post: "I'll encourage [Obama] to ask, and if he does, for her to say yes."
Typical DLC thinking not to mention Obama is rushing to listen to THE most corrupt Democratic member of the Senate.
LOL.
May 23, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why did Clinton bring up the assassination of Bobby Kennedy in that interview?
And it's hardly surprising that Diane Feinstein is pushing for this.
This is the same stalwart Clinton supporter who was ready to ask her to drop out after North Carolina and Indiana.
May 23, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Diane Feinstein also pushed for Mukasey for AG, and look where that's gotten us. Her judgement is flawed.
I too wondered why she brought up that RFK thing?
May 23, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Stash!
Did anyone listen to that interview? I didn't, and I know about the Kennedy reference because of comments others made while listening to it.
Information, anyone?
May 23, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
link
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/23/155636/683/322/521393
May 23, 2008 4:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh cool, two cats having a conversation.
May 23, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05232008/news/nationalnews/why_hill_wont_drop_out__bobby_kennedy_wa_112232.htm
Here.
I'm really looking forward to hearing people defend this.
May 23, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah! I wanna see them fight.
May 23, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
It took me awhile to realize it was two different cats.
May 23, 2008 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Senator Carper also insinuated the possibility of a 'catastrophic event' here:
May 23, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Feinstein can go to hell. She's as nuts as Clinton is.
May 23, 2008 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd be interested in this, too. If her intention was to insinuate that she should stay in because Obama could be shot or something, then that's terribly offensive to me and, I'm sure, to many others.
May 23, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
After reading the story, I honestly don't know what else she could have been implying.
May 23, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
From the Post:
This is deeply offensive to me.
May 23, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Same here too. She's brought it up three times.
May 23, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me too. I think that's the point. She's got to keep emotions high or the game ends for her.
May 23, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Senator Clinton's statement before the ARGUS LEADER editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign, said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton...
May 23, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
GOOD! I'm glad to hear the Obama camp responded to this.
May 23, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really and truly cannot believe she said that. I cannot. Believe. It.
How dare she. My god.
Allsburg? Articleman? Unity pony?
May 23, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I want reporters to ask her why she keeps bringing up the RFK assassination.
May 23, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
This would be a great opportunity for Michelle to step up to the mike.
May 23, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mark Halperin at Time's The Page just reported it.
May 23, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, I disagree. The point for HRC is to stay in the news and keep the campaigns and their supporters sniping -- until May 31 at least. I hope Obama ignores it, other than the short response someone else posted from Burton.
May 23, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. The Obama campaign just needs to stand back and let the media repeat these comments.
May 23, 2008 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
This RFK comment is truly truly gross, though, isn't it? Separate from the obvious, that was such a sad and violent time in this country. To evoke it, to drag it forward 40 years, is just repellent.
May 23, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Truly truly gross".
I think Senator Clinton is exhausted and detached from reality at this point. This comment on its own is bad enough. Couple with the news about Teddy Kennedy, it's just in spectacularly bad taste.
Not excellent news for Hillary, at all.
May 23, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me too. Nearly spit my lunch out when the news hit. This has got to be one of the most insane days we've had in a while. Hillary equals drama queen.
May 23, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gee you must be AWFULLY SENSITIVE! She was giving examples of 'shit happens in June' and to jump to she wants to kill him or something says YOU are a bit wack and she was not a perfect person 100% of the time ..... what is new?
May 25, 2008 2:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is unbelievable. I think we have a winner for the "How Low Will She Go?" category.
http://thepage.time.com/2008/05/23/clinton-to-meet-with-south-dakota-ed-board/
May 23, 2008 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
And this is the woman that people are recommending highly as his VP? Please. Can we move on now to some more serious considerations?
May 23, 2008 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
No I think we have a new low in how far liberal Obombers will go in the fantasy that Clinton now wants their sweetie dead at all costs ..... do you know how stupid this sounds to a reasonable person? It is kinda funny actually ...... and sad how these outraged comments are written seriously.
May 25, 2008 2:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Greg
Everyone is running with the story of her despicable statement about RFK assassination. Instead of shilling for her, how about some real posts ?
May 23, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like a story on Obama's Latin American Policy? Yeah that would be kind of nice. Unfortunately, the Clinton campaign just pulled another shiny object out of its proverbial pocket which will keep the media busy for the next week.
May 23, 2008 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary must be sleep-deprived. California's primary was held in June until 1996 when it was moved to March. June held significance when RFK was running and when Bill was running. This is no longer the case.
Let's not expect honesty from Hillary. If she were honest she would acknowledge she has LOST and there is no way to recover under the 2008 primary schedule without bringing up false comparisons to previous primaries conducted under completely different schedules.
Hillary is dishonest and manages to be offensive in the reference to RFK. I'm a bit surprised that folks are so surprised--the MLK and LBJ reference was just as nuttily phrased.
May 23, 2008 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Her point my confused friend is that this shit drags on till June lots so cool your ass about her getting out asap. The REAL election is in November remember? A long long time from June. We will all have plenty of time to mull it over ......like many times before ..... which was her point.
May 25, 2008 2:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hm
May 23, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Screw whoever Obama selects. With Hillary going all the way to the convention, it doesn't matter who Obama selects. His choice will still have to ratified by Hillary's delegates come the convention.
A far more likely outcome will be that Hillary's delegates will nominate and vote her in as VP. Sorry Obama lovers, there's nothing you'll be able to do to stop it.
May 23, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Congatulations BKinDaHouse. You win today's award for THE single most glaring example of electoral knowledge incompetence.
May 23, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, for the parties' nominations, president and vice president are separately elected at the conventions.
The custom is for the presidential nominee to choose the vp and for the delegates to fall in line. But, the rules are that the vp nominee has to receive a certain number of votes at the convention to be nominated.
Some of HRC's supporters are talking about her going to the convention to be elected as the vp nominee, over Obama's objection.
Nice, huh?
May 23, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
yeah, you Hillary supporters seem to think your candidate has a lot more influence than she does. No one is going to cause chaos by rejecting Obama's VP pick and putting together a nightmare ticket. That is the stupidest crap I've heard all day, minus Feinstein's electoral map analysis.
May 23, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
one problem with that tho. obama will have more delegates at the convention than hillary will. so assuming all it takes is a majority, obamas choice will win.
May 23, 2008 5:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ironically, it's the ultimate Washington insiders pushing for this to happen. They want to make their friends happy; they're not thinking about what's best for the ticket or the country.
Also, looking forward to HRC bashing Feinstein for bringing it up.
May 23, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who the hell are these people to tell Obama who he should pick? Diane Feinstein is my Senator, and she is a HUGE disappointment. I frankly cannot wait to see her go.
May 23, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
First, they came for the Blue Dog Democrats. I was not a Blue dog, and said nothing.
Then they came for the DLCers. I was not a DLCer, so I said nothing.
BECAUSE I FINALLY GOT MY FUCKING PARTY BACK!!!
May 23, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, the kool aid guzzling, Clinton haters will hate it, so that is a good thing.
Kooks.
May 23, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't hate it, I just don't think she is the best choice. No one told Bush who to pick, except Dick Cheney!? Obama should choose who he wants should he win the nomination, not be blackmailed into picking Hillary.
May 23, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who haters?
May 23, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton. He was Governor of New York in the 1840s.
May 23, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tom Carper also said, "In case something should happen, Hillary would be the best candidate to take over as President." Other Clinton supporters have been echoing this line in recent days.
May 23, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously? Do you have a link to that comment?
May 23, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here're his exact comments:
May 23, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
!!!
May 23, 2008 4:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, she's mad. Crazy mad.
straightjacket mad.
seriously
May 23, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously. I mean, wtf is wrong with her? This is just getting more and more bizarre. It's like watching Amy Winehouse spiraling out of control bizarre. Please, someone stop her before she implodes or something.
May 23, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, man, you don't talk to Hillary. You listen to her. The woman's enlarged my mind. She's a poet-candidate in the classic sense. I mean sometimes she'll... uh... well, you'll say "hello" to her, right? And she'll just walk right by you. She won't even notice you. And suddenly she'll grab you, and she'll throw you in a corner, and she'll say, "Do you know that Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June? If you can stay in the race when all reasonable math shows you have no chance of winning, if you can count votes no one else is counting..." I mean I'm no, I can't... I'm a little man, I'm a little man, she's... she's a great woman. I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas... I should have been Mike Gravel...
May 23, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm shocked as to how blatant this is.
May 23, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
If this is true. No. No. No. A Thousand Times No!!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05232008/news/nationalnews/why_hill_wont_drop_out__bobby_kennedy_wa_112232.htm
May 23, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I had to double-check to be sure that wasn't an Onion article. I still can't believe she said that she needs to stay in because Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June of 1968.
That's in breathtakingly bad taste.
May 23, 2008 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
McAucliffe's also talked about the possibility of a 'catastrophic event' as the reason for Clinton staying in. Clinton's referenced the RFK assassination three times.
May 23, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
it might me good tv to put her on with Dr. Phil.
it could even be pay-per-view--you know, to help pay her campaign debt.
May 23, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink