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Hillary On Wright: "We Should Move On"

"We should move on."

That's what Hillary just said during the Indiana town hall when asked by a voter whether the Wright controversy should remain an issue in the campaign.

Then, pressed by George Stephanopoulos as to whether she was saying Wright shouldn't be part of the campaign at all anymore, Hillary said: "People talk about it. there's no doubt that people talk about it." She added that people would elect a president based on the solutions he or she is offering.

A week or so ago, Hillary chief strategist Geoff Garin also said that we should "move on" from Wright, but Hillary subsequently hit Wright in harsh terms on Fox News.

The Clinton campaign message on Wright has proceeded on two tracks: High-mindedly saying that he shouldn't be an issue in the campaign while simultaneously saying that he is something that voters care about.

The latter, of course, helps ensure that he remain an issue.


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The Clinton campaign message on Wright has proceeded on two tracks: High-mindedly saying that he shouldn't be an issue in the campaign while simultaneously saying that he is something that voters care about. The latter, of course helps ensure that he remain an issue.
Awesome. If I ever said or implied that you're in the tank for Hillary, I hereby take it back.
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Frankly, I don't get the "in the tank for Hillary" stuff against Greg. I haven't seen it.

Now, Eric, with that "Obama needs to win NC by a LANDSLIDE"? I get that. That was really pretty shameless.

You don't see it??? Oh dear -than that makes me Peter Pan.

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The Clinton campaign message on Wright has proceeded on two tracks: High-mindedly saying that he shouldn't be an issue in the campaign while simultaneously saying that he is something that voters care about.

The latter, of course, helps ensure that he remain an issue.

Can I come over and make-out with you?

This rocks.

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Hey Tena - I've been meaning to tell you...back at that other place we used to frequent?

I was "Scary Vagina". Only sometimes, of course.

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LOL!!!

You know what - keep an eye out for Woody. He shows up every once in awhile here he told me. I thought I saw him on Muckraker the other day and it was him.

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Jenn - you really need to meet us in Alb for the fair this year. You'll have the best time you ever had - I promise. Woody is an incredible host.

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I've been kinda planning on it, since I didn't get to do it last year. I love New Mexico and it would give me an excellent excuse to go.

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September is the perfect month in the high desert.

of course, watch me say that and it'll rain -lol but you really should try - it's a fun bunch of people - olav is very cool and he and lil red are a trip.

ok - sorry to take up the thread -

I thought she was going to take the high road this time. I am watching her on "This Week" right now, and George S. asked her if she can name one credible economist who backed her gas tax holiday and she couldnt answer and went in a different direction.

Wow, Hillary just got slapped down by a audience member who said that she is basically ignoring the economist who are experts at what they do!

"Hillary subsequently hit Wright in harsh terms on Fox News."
A little over the top there, don't you think? She re-iterated what she'd said weeks ago that Wright wouldn't have been her pastor, but saying his comments were 'outrageous' was no more forceful language than Obama had used about Wright the previous day.

Maybe one difference is that she was outraged about Wright's claims on HIV, whereas Obama was outraged by Wright saying he was a politician, but the language otherwise was pretty much identical.

The Clinton campaign message on Wright has proceeded on two tracks: High-mindedly saying that he shouldn't be an issue in the campaign while simultaneously saying that he is something that voters care about.

I love you today, Greg !!!

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For the record, guys - I never thought Greg was in any tank. I only rag on him when I can't quite get where something is coming from because it isn't attributed.

That's the only thing Greg bothers me with.

Eric is another story.


I don't know that he's in the tank for Hillary but he writes like he is, so the end result is the same.

Greg, it seems you are getting a lotta love today for that one paragraph. Enjoy it while it lasts since it will last only one "post cycle".

Tena will be back with vengence ...LOL

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I wasn't called Terrible Tena in 4th grade for nuttin.

LOL

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"We Should Move On"

Yes, Hillary, you should. Why can't you?

Oh yeah, anything to win.

"We should move on from discussion of REV. WRIGHT, whom everybody is talking about, and that's the only reason I even allow a mention of REV. WRIGHT in my campaign: because it, unlike that of my opponent (who unlike what I would have done did not walk out of REV. WRIGHT's church) though we needn't discuss that anymore since thanks partly to me every news outlet is saturated with talk of REV. WRIGHT, though of course my own campaign is preoccupied with solutions for real Americans, not the elitist concerns of people like my opponent -- so that's why I don't think REV. WRIGHT is very relevant; and besides it was you, George, who brought up REV. WRIGHT not me, because I only want to discuss the non-elitist concerns of ordinary Americans -- by which I of course mean white Americans, not REV WRIGHT on the elitists who want Americans to spend all their food money on gasoline taxes."

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LOL!!!!

Well, Hillary is making the right noises. Now, will Blumenthal get the message?

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I shudder every time I read Sidney's name.

I almost wish it wouldn't be spoken.

Sidney is a fuckin monster.

DirkVA: LOLOLOLOLOLO!!!!!!!!

Thanks, I needed that!

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OK, Greg. I expect to see at least 2 or 3 posts on Obama's statements this morning on MTP - in the interest of fairness. ;)

Yes, Hillary, we all need to move on - including you, right out of this race. It's a futile endeavor and you're making a fool out of yourself! Step aside and let Obama and us all focus on beating McWar in November!

Clinton can take the so-called high-road and say move on but don't expect the rest of America to forget Wright and Obama's 20 years with him. It is one of the many defining components of his character. It will forever haunt him.

What other topics? How about Meeks? How about the silence from Oprah? How about Rezko and all that mess? How about the lies about his experience and supposed accomplishments? How about his flip-flops, like on gas taxes and on gun control?

How about the falling dollar? How about the Russian-Chinese axis being built on oil production? How about the discussions OPEC is having sell oil in euros and yen and not just dollars? How about the reduction of dollars in foreign currency reserves? How about the US is already squeezed out of 80% of the world's oil reserves? How about the cozy relationship the Clintons have with Wall Street -- who are about to look for a bailout? How about how finance is now the #1 sector of the US economy?

How about issues that will affect those babies you are holding?

Nah... let's continue to talk about stupid, irrelevant stuff. It's easier to inject our opinion that way.

Hillary -- trying to have her cake and eat it too. Saying we should move on from Wright while keeping it alive. Proposing a gas tax holiday that will benefit the oil companies yet claiming it will help ordinary folks. Helping McCain through her attacks on Obama and then claiming she's doing a public service since Republicans will send the same attacks.

What an ungodly nightmare it must be to have that campaign's mindset!

Yes and no. She's acknowledging that Wright is an issue whether he should be or not. Of course she wants him to be an issue because it hurts her opponent, as it should. And of course Wright is a legitimate political issue as Obama himself said. But Obama supporters would love to pin the whole thing on her, as evidenced by that flimsy attempt earlier to link her to scheduling a Wright appearance. They can't, of course, because this whole thing belongs to Obama, starting 20 years ago. Obviously she has to stay out of this mess and let it take its toll. And that's what she's doing. Clearly the issue hasn't died, but she didn't bring it up. In this case it was Stephanopoulos.

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She didn't refuse to answer O'Reilly's questions (though she parried the first thrust with "leave it up to voters".

She didn't recant her established position (that she would have left the congregation).

She affirmed (in agreement with Obama) that Wright's statements were outrageous.

And she affirmed (in agreement with everyone) that "people talk about it".

Yes, that's a one "harsh" "hit".

From the current issue of Newsweek:

Tim Roemer is a gifted salesman working a tough territory. For weeks, the former Indiana congressman has been crisscrossing primary states trying to convince Roman Catholic voters that Barack Obama is their man. Just a few months ago, there were plenty of takers. Obama beat Hillary Clinton among Catholics in Louisiana and Virginia and tied her in Wisconsin. But in more recent primaries, Catholics have decisively turned away from him. In Ohio, exit polls showed that 65 percent backed Clinton. In Pennsylvania, Clinton won 70 percent of the Catholic vote.

What's going on here? "The short answer is, I don't know," says Roemer, who has spent hours quizzing Catholics at rallies and town-hall meetings.

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I have a possible answer. Aside from all the revelations about Wright that have made the headlines, all the media attention has given us a look at the church Obama attends. Maybe Catholics simply don't relate. While Obama was attracted to Write, Catholics come from a tradition where the priest does not attempt to draw attention to himself through fiery rhetoric and stylized, choreographed dancing and shouting. To Catholics its more about the Mass. Catholics are far more likely to find Wright's style rather disgusting. It certainly doesn't help them relate to Obama.

As a Catholic who naturally knows a whole lot of Catholics, I think you're entirely wrong. It has nothing whatever to do with liturgy or homiletics (and, besides, you description of modern priests' objectivity and self-effacement is wildly idealized). I think it has more to do with the habit so many Catholics have of sticking with the Democrat, and -- for a long time now and what many of us would think far too long -- the obvious Democrat has been a Clinton. It's no secret that Catholic objection to Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes has been strong. Hillary is reaping the benefit of this. I see it as unjust and nonsensical, but I think that's at least partly what it's about. Rev. Wright's pulpit style would not be something most Catholics would care about, I'm convinced.

There is something else, though. Some months ago -- even before I was an Obama supporter -- was was at a typically sophisticated Upper West Side gathering and expressed the opinion that Americans would not object to a black President. Our host -- a well-known figure in the arts -- looked at me as though I was crazy: "My mother would never, ever vote for a black."

His mother is a first-generation Brooklyn Sicilian. So, from that small experience, I can only assume that race is an issue for many of the older immigrants. As a Southerner, I can't believe it is as live an issue with white Anglo Southerners except among a class of people who, probably rightly, see themselves as downtrodden as any African American.

if greg's not in some kind of tank we should build him one. what kind of tank should it be? septic? abrams? sensory deprivation? PLACE YOUR VOTES

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