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Hillary Nabs A Super-Delegate

The Hillary campaign announces that she's picked up a super-delegate today, her first of the week: Massachusetts Attorney General Martha Coakley.

But check out this quote from Coakley, which has an after-the-fact ring to it...

"Regardless of the outcome of the primary, Mrs. Clinton's energy, stamina, and resolve have changed the course of history for women seeking office, including the presidency, and I dare say, have changed the course of history of Presidential politics in the United States. It is for these reasons that I will vote for Hillary Clinton in August at the Nominating Convention."

"Regardless of the outcome of the primary..."

MSNBC's latest totals: Obama has 1,906 overall delegates, while Hillary has 1,724.


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THIS ...

IS

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EXCELLENT

NEWS

NEWS!!!

FOR

HILLARY!!!!!

Soros can't buy everyone.

Present,

Come on man. Grow up and get it together. Do you want to bash Soros, or hug Rupert Murdoch? This is beyond two different candidates. This is about what's best for the country.

Also - now that I've dropped my avatar, you should drop yours. I don't care if you stay pro-Hillary, which is your choice. We should welcome a constructive debate on this forum. But if you want to convince us to stay on Clinton's team, you better find something more convincing than the bird.

Oh c'mon, let the idiot keep pretending that the whole "present" vote thing wasn't debunked months ago. S/He only makes himself look like a complete ass. I prefer him/her keep the name so s/he is more easily identifiable as a complete idiot.

Fuck you. Someone has hacked my account

Loser Obamites. Typical.

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Nobody "hacked" your account or you wouldn't be able to post. They name-jacked your ID and "owned" you on the boards today.

p.s. if Obama supporters are losers, then why are we winning?

Imposter!

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Whew. I thought you'd gone and gotten some class. Silly me.

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Besides, anyone can change their display names.

Everyone please say hello to my countertroll.

I welcome said troll to participatein the debate, but on a constructive level.

Hillary or Barack, I'm a democrat. I'm not sure about this guy though.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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IS.....

EXCELLENT

NEWS!!!

FOR

HILLARY!!!

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Conversation?

FOR

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HILLARY!!!!!

Going home!!!!!

Did we just witness a pity endorsement?

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Basically.

Not sure if it's a "pity" endorsement, but it sounds like she'll still vote for Obama in the general - unlike Ferraro.

Hillary's Sargent At Arms told us, last week, that he was only going to do an occasional summery of additional super delegates declaring.

When it comes to the flood of super delegates that have been declaring for Senator Obama, Hillary's Sargent At Arms has kept his word, and almost ignored them.

Now Hillary gets one Super Delegate, and her
Sargent At Arms goes orgasmic, and turns it into a TPM news spectacular.

I think he left some wiggle room by saying he'd make individual posts if they were particularly noteworthy (like Senator Byrd yesterday). It's gotten so dismal for Hillary, I guess, that any superdelegate endorsing her is noteworthy. Her endorsement's eulogizing tone is interesting, too.

Great quote. Translation:

"Screw the Primary, screw the General Election. If fact, screw all of you. I'm voting for a woman!!!"

Gotta love that professional objectivity and and steafast committment to the larger picture.

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I'm so impressed with Election Central. We've got Gene Shalit and Tiger Woods posting here.

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Thanks for Lieberman.

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Maybe she made the endorsement exactly because she sees the larger picture. Her endorsement might be a sort of balm to assuage the wounded pride and dashed hopes of Clinton supporters. Or maybe she truly believes that Clinton is that much better.

The former, me thinks.

GREAT!

OAKLEY AND COAKLEY TIL THE WHEELS FALL OFF

LOL

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Quick things are getting fired up, so get me a ladder ASAP so I can climb on board!

OMG, you mean after she crushed him in Mass. she was rewarded.

Amazing.

Now that's the Real Gotalife!

Scrappy to the bitter end.

Regardless of the outcome of the primary you have changed the course of history for the obstinate and the thick-skinned.

Ahhh, the REAL gotalife is back, super duper..

Give us a big hug, GotAL...Wait a minute - who ARE you?

Yeah, where you been, dude? Sheesh.

This Glen and Glenda bit is confusing, Gotalife. Is the pro-unity side Glenda? Making this Glen?

A presser might help clear some of this up - but bravo on an ingenious career reinvigoration!

Guys,

You have to believe me. This guy is a total troll.

I meant what I said earlier. This morning I donated $50 to Obama.
I think that the issues are bigger than two candidates.

We need to stick together against McSame.

Do not listen to the other guy. Please believe me.

The complete sentences are a problem. It's got to be like this:

Imposter. Total troll.

Donated real money.

Bigger issues.

Believe.

Perfect!!!!

I really hope I don't get a faux Fogu trying to pull me back.

Guys, please stay vigilant on this. Even if it happens - avoid the fight. Let's keep this positive.

That troll is not the real Gotalife!

This is total crap.

I tried to set things right this mornign. Now I am getting trolled.

Gregg - need help here. Please.

This is good. The cadence is just right.

Yup me too.

Please don't feed my troll, but feel free to start up a constructive dialog. I've had enough of the bickering.

My torll got better talkings than me does.

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Don't feed the trolls.

You mean, 'cuz they multiply?

No no, CarolBG - that's if you water them ;)

Someone seems to want a little bit of attention on a day when Massachusetts politicos are starting to think about the successor to our senior Senator.

Martha - the timing shows no class. Today is not about you.

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Ouch.

Could someone be that cynical?


Today is not about you.

And the front page of tomorrow's Globe will make that abundantly clear.

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WHEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

This new narrative of painting Hillary as champion of the womens political movement seems to be paying off.

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It is kind of ironic, if you think about it.

Hillary's greatest political achievment: Staying married to a lying, two faced bastard who cheated on her repeatedly and embarrased her publicly.

America is ready for a female president, but it is not ready for a Hillary Clinton.

Pity endorsement.

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I was going to put that ever so much more crudely... LOL


But yeah and also to make Croakely feel good about herself. Which is fine.

I'm not gonna get upset about Hillary getting a superdel, but I'm also not going to be blissfully ignorant.

If Hillary pulls off a miracle, I'm with her every step of the way.

But if Obama gets the nomination, I'm going to fights AS hard for him as I would for her.

The stakes are much too high to play scorched earth, and I think a lot more people need to wise up to this.

Yeah, preach on, Fogu! You're awesome!

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At least you changed your avatar.

If this really is the fogu2 we know, and you are serious, then welcome aboard.

Now let's kick the shit out of John McSame.

I'm 100% serious. I've decided to convert to pragmatism for a change.

The big thing though to the Obama supporters though. I know this race got ugly. But it's far better for us to try to put the fire out than fan the flames.

Let's work together and take back the White House in November.

There's a space in front of his name. That's not fogu2.

It's the NEW and IMPROVED Fogu. We like this one better.

Hillarious tne evolved fogu2 and gotalife rock. Now it's time for a few others. Funny as heaven.

Not only did Hillary GET a superdelegate, but she IS a superdelegate. And I'll give you one guess as to who that vote is going for, suckas!!

This is not a pity endorsement.

This is looking ahead to 2016.

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So Clinton can run again when she is 76 years old?

Not even credible.

She'll be 69 then.

Gregg, this is not cool.

I have been hacked.

This morning, I decided to change my mind on some things. Now I've got someone trying to change my mind back.

Look, I know this is payback for changing sides, but come on.

And are we onto Glenda here?

I have to say, once you'd moved into Beverage Sales on a stage as prestigious as TPM, I had written your career off. This Avant Garde twist just might put you back in the game.

The imposter wanker needs the troll critic.

This is complete crap.

This guy is total troll. I have never used the word "wanker".

I don't know hwo this is, but it is complete BS.

I'm not standing for this. I decided today, once and for all, no more negative crap.

I am going to stand with the dem nominee no matter who it is.

We will not lose 3 in a row if we do this.

Okay, I'll stop. I'm sorry!! Geez.

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How many gotalifes are there?

Only one has that unique haiku-style.

Geez.

It's cool, GotALife, we know where you stand.

BUT...you've gotta speak in Haiku, now and then.

For authenticity.

I think its fair for her to endorse Hillary. But this "changed the course for women" crap is really getting silly.

I think its fair for her to endorse Hillary. But this "changed the course for women" crap is really getting silly.

Alright, I've officially dropped the "OWNED" avatar.

I apologize to the people I offended with it. I got angry, let it get to me, and made a bad decision.

The Icon I've chosen hopefully can be a sign of new things to come on this post.

The big thing I think we should focus on is getting a dialog going - feeding posters with info they can use when they encounter people who are skeptical voters. The great thing we have on our side is the truth!

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Hmmm. What's the word for a troll's troll?

This does seem to be taking the GotalifeFan thing to a frightening, albeit intriguing, new level.

Stalker.

I may have to take out a restraining order.

Why is the real gotalife responding to the fake fogu2 as a "stalker"?


Are gotalife and fogu2 the same person?

Ummmm...dunno...I'm confused.

And didin't GotALife have a stalker. And he liked her. They went to step class together and everything.

I don't get it.

I don't want the new one to change his avatar, though. I like never knowing which one I'm talking to. Fun!

I think he was talking to me - assuming i had "hacked" him since i invoked the name of his fan + expressed some measure of glee at all of this confusion.

It's hard to tell...what with the Haiku-speak.

I'm gonna go with fogu2 and gotalife are the same person.

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Give the man a prize!!!

Hmmm. What's the word for a troll's troll?

meta-troll?

Bullshit on you hacker.

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Not hacked.. "owned"

My counterroll doesn't seem to have the same verbosity as my usual posts. Anyone care to comment?

Sounds like you just can't stand to hear any good news about Hillary.

Careful, Otto. You might want to keep a low profile or you'll find you've been cloned.

It's sort of like Body Snatchers around here, isn't it?

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What good news?

She got one super. Will there be a parade?

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Who are you talking too?

The math does not work for Hillary or for Barack, and here is why:

Both of them will not reach 2,025 delegates with out the help of the super delegates and keep in mind that super delegates can switch their votes. just because they have endorsed hillary or Barack does not mean that is who they will actually vote for in denver.... we will not have a true winner until denver unless hillary drops out of the race on June 3rd.

True. But Obama will get 2025 shortly (after tonight he'll be ~60 away) and I highly doubt once he reaches that a) that Hillary will stay in and b) the SDs would change their vote to take it away from him.

We shouldn't be cherry picking super-delegate endorsements to make fun of or to hold up. The system is dumb. But once you accept it then it is what it is. She can vote for Clinton for whatever reason she wants.

It is interesting that those who came out early, before the voting, are spared the scrutiny while only the late deciders are over-analyzed. Every one of those who analyzed before the primaries made their endorsement..."no matter what the outcome."

if hillary clinton can win over the popular vote with OUT michigan and florida being counted after all remaining primary's, then she can talk the super delegates into voting for her because it is the "will of the people"

if florida and michigan are not counted after may 31st meeting then 2,025 is what is need to win but if they are counted then 2,209 is what is need to win and votes from the super delegates and pleaged delegates aren't truly counted untill denver.

f hillary clinton can win over the popular vote with OUT michigan and florida being counted after all remaining primary's, then she can talk the super delegates into voting for her because it is the "will of the people"

True. But that's nearing the "impossible" territory.

And who exactly is going to decide which popular vote totals to count? There is a reason that delegates are used to decide the nominee and NOT the popular vote - how exactly are the caucuses going to be counted? My understanding is that only "estimates" are available for four states - ME, NV, IA, and WA - do you think that "estimates" are going to be good enough to overturn the results of the primary?

And let's just fantasize for a second that Clinton eeks out the popular vote total - do you think that all of the Obama supporters are just going to sit back, shrug their shoulders, and say "Yeah, even though the rules specify that the nominee is supposed to be decided by delegates - it does seem fair that the party give her the nomination." Do you really think she would stand even the slightest chance of unifying the party in that situation? What kind of AA turnout do you think you'd have for the GE? I'm afraid your dream scenario would only result in a disaster for the party in November.

My suggestion for what to call the Troll of a Troll:

A Doppelgangbanger.

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In trolldom, that's more or less a sockpuppet.

a troll's troll is a parody troll.

I haven't a clue what's going on here -

Nor do i - but it's a delicious twist to the day :)

Agreed. The ironing is delicious.

Kenny's back! Hi, Kenny.

Its you.

ID thief.

Yup. Same person has done it to me.

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Must suck to get "owned" like that.

Owned

karma

After the countertrolls are done, please feel free to engage them on the issues.

Seriously guys - I'm not knocking you for being pro HRC. I am too. What I do have a problem with is wasting blog space with innane banter.

Let's talk about something substantive, alright?

You are ID thief troll.

Total BS.

You are a fraud. I will report this.

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Senator McCaskill is out there taking Ferraro to task for her comments yesterday. Someone here yesterday wished for a high profile Dem to do just this. Well, here you go!

http://thepage.time.com/2008/05/20/mccaskill-targets-ferraro-for-comments-on-obama/

Obama/McCaskill!

Man, add Ferraro to the heap of popular Dems I used to admire. Don't worry, Bill Clinton and Ed Rendell will cushion her fall.

Ferraro did dial back her comments a bit on the Today show. However, She also explained her reasons for calling Obama sexist...and they're goddamn stupid. The Annie Oakley thing, and him brushing his shoulders off at a rally after the Pennsylvania debate.

haha, those are the worst reasons ever.

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Well that just proves that Ferraro doesn't speak Ebonics.


And should shut up before she embarrasses herself further.

Well, that ship has sailed a while ago. I was too young to know her back when she was a veep candidate...was she always this inept at speaking? She alternates between spewing BS and making half-hearted attempts to clean it up.

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I don't recall her being any great speaker back then and she ended up hurting the Democrats and Mondale badly with her connected husband.

She's got some nerve coming back and making these noises, really.

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That rocked = that's exactly what I wanted to say to Ferraro.


I am a lifelong Clinton supporter. but if it does not happen. I will not back McSame.

The Dems have flaws, but I will stick with them.

I will try to be less stuborn from now on. I promise.

Even though a superdel goes to Clinton, the week's news is about the party coalescing around Obama.
http://thinmansblog.blogspot.com/

McCaskill is awesome. One of Obama's best advocates!

Anyways, congrats to Hillary on another super-delegate. I agree her run is historic, this whole primary has been. I hope she has the good sense to drop out soon and on a good note. I think a win in KY would be that.

Also, would like to welcome fogo2 and gotalife (or the gotalife clone) into the fold. Thanks for your support, with your help we're gonna win this thing! Anyone think djaimo will be joining in anytime soon?

I appreciate the sentiment but someone has hacked my account.

Clinton is still the best choice.

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Nobody has hacked your account. The "owned" your screen name by using one with a space in front of it.

You are correct. See we can agree on something.

Guys - trolls or not - we can agree on a lot more than that. We're all democrats. Let's get united against John McCain!

Mine too and I agree.

I agree that you are a total BS troll.

This is what I get for changing midn.

Total crap.

I will support dem nominee, pure and simple.

Anyone who says otherwise is a fraud.

I've learned my lesson. Yes, I am the original gotalife. But this morning a better gotalife replaced me. At this juncture, all I can do is step aside. This will be my last post ever.

Bah, I thought perhaps, maybe, just maybe.... I did think it strange considering she hadn't dropped out. Oh well, perhaps one day soon....

My countertroll is right that Clinton is the best choice, but the fact of the matter is - if she doesn't get the nomination, I'm going to fight just as hard for Obama. We can't take this election lightly. John McCain will do irreprable damage to our already wounded country.

Let's stand together as Democrats for a change!

My head is going to explode, just like that guy in "Scanners".....

"...Mrs. Clinton's energy, stamina, and resolve have changed the course of history for women seeking office, including the presidency, and I dare say, have changed the course of history of Presidential politics in the United States.

But aren't these "just words" and so, don't really matter? ;-)

Oh, now this is going all the way to the Convention! Everybody step back!

Another delusional superdel bites the dust.

Looks like Coakley wants to be Governor when Deval goes on his book tour in 2010.

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Another example of Hillary's base that is scorned. This is not just about politics.

Senator Obama composes and conducts a symphony, and TPM keeps it's ear plugs in.

Hillary burbs and farts, and TPM shouts bravo, bravo, bravo.

Lol little trolls...when you get hacked, you'll know--sure hope you're not using Vista.

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O by the way - Croakely, you want to know who changed history for American women? I'll tell you: Nancy Pelosi, that's who, and shame on your for not acknowledging that.

Nancy Pelosi's running for President?

Don't forget Ann Richards, Tena! I know you haven't....

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O I wouldn't, but she wasn't the first woman governor.

Nancy Pelosi is the first woman Speaker of the House and that's a big damn deal. That is a very powerful position.

Just learned something:

"The first female governor was Nellie Tayloe Ross of Wyoming who was elected on November 4, 1924 and sworn in on January 5, 1925. She was preceded in office by her late husband William Ross. Also elected on November 4 was Miriam A. Ferguson of Texas, but she was not sworn in until January 21, 1925. The first female governor elected without being the wife or widow of a past state governor was Ella T. Grasso of Connecticut, elected in 1974 and sworn in on January 8, 1975."

The more you know! Thanks, Wiki!

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O shoot - I almost included her in my comment above - I know about Nellie.

I also knew about "Ma" Ferguson. They were quite the pair, Ma and Pa.

Wait a minute. Now you're saying Clinton is running to be Speaker of the House, and Coakely endorsed her?

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