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Despite Raising $22 Million In April, The Hillary Campaign Is In The Red

Okay, here's some more detail on Hillary's fundraising numbers for April. The $22 million they announced raising for last month doesn't tell the story.

The bottom line: The Hillary campaign is in the red right now.

Here's the rundown. The Hillary campaign confirms to me that when you factor in Hillary's expenditures, right now they have $6.7 million in cash on hand for use in the primary.

Meanwhile, Camp Hillary's current filing shows that they're over $19 million in debt.

So it would appear that the Hillary campaign is over $11 million in the red right now. It's not quite that simple, though.

That's because, as the Hillary campaign points out, she has lent the campaign roughly $11.4 million which she doesn't necessarily have to pay back right now.

So, interpreting these numbers in the most charitable way possible for her, the campaign's debts -- not including her own loans -- are roughly $8 million.

Since that's more than the cash-on-hand she has for the primary, that means that the campaign is at best a couple million in the red.

And again, that's not including the loans to herself. By contrast, the Obama campaign has over $37 million on hand for the primary.

So that's where we are. Not a pretty picture for her. And this is certainly not something that will help make any kind of case to super-dels, to put it mildly.


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Now we know why Terry McAuliffe cancelled out on Ed Schultz at the last minute today.
LOL

This is depresssing.

I am a lifelong dem and clinton support. But also a realist.

If Obama has the dels, votes, the money. He is the nom.

I will support a demo over Mcsame. Period.

Each day, I'm going to donate $50 to the Obama campaign in protest of all the fake gotalifes on this page. Every day I will donate until there are no gotalifes left but me, the real one. Who's in to match me?

If you don't have $50 a day, how about $1 for every negative post that the fake gotalife makes?

50 dollars a day would be cheaper.

This is a shame. I'm still a fervent Hillary supporter, but this is a huge burden to overcome.

I'm hoping as a sign of Democrat unity, Obama could help with joint fundraisers. I understand that this may be tough to take for some Obama supporters, the election got heated at times. But we need to unite and stand as one against John McCain.

Granted, Hillary is fortunate she comes from enough wealth to absorb that kind of a loss without going to the poor house, but I admire her willingness to put her own money where her mouth is.

It's only a burden if you're allowing others to turn it into one.

A campaign in debt is a great tool of derision, that's why everyone here is gloating on posts like this.

I for one hope that Clinton campaign never ever asks Obama for anything like the gossips we're hearing about debt retirement. She doesn't owe him anything and she should never owe him anything.

So debt is not a burden? Interesting perspective. Your credit score must 0.

As for Clinton asking Obama for anything, it won't happen. The most he or the campaign could give her would be $2300. She'd have to rely on the benevolence of her supporters (who haven't maxed out) to retire the debt. This probably why she's staying in until there's a nominee (she can't repay herself the bulk of her loans after there's a nominee). So we continue to play this game until she gets what she wants.

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So debt is not a burden? Interesting perspective. Your credit score must 0.

LOL!

Admittedly, what you're saying is fair. I hardly think Hillary won't land on her financial feet when this is said and done.

Maybe we keep money out of this and just work on a way to get Hillary involved in the cabinet, on her own, sans Bill.

But, that plan would involve being able to trust that they share a policy agenda. And comments, such as those coming from Blumenthal today, suggest otherwise.

I would argue that Hillary on Obama's cabinet is a bad idea. He should wish her well, compliment her on a battle hard fought, and carry on with his own considerable challenge ahead in the GE.

Much as the idea of Obama spending time to help repay debts that were incurred, in part, to question his fitness for office and call him an empty suit, is hard for many of his supporters to swallow, doing a bunch of joint events with both of them, designed to help her pay off her debt, might be a powerful way of fostering reconciliation. And Obama doesn't seem like somebody who holds grudges -- one of his many attractions, and an adaptive trait given the state of things right now.

Might not she find such events kind of humiliating, though? Maybe it could be joint fundraisers in the sense that you have to give to Party and Hillary to come. And no Mayhill Fowler.

Barack: "This is my broke, fighting friend Hillary. She needs change, too. ... No, seriously, folks, if you've got a quarter, she'll take it!"

HAAAAA!!!

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I'm happy to talk about Obama supporters contributing to pay off her debts--just as soon as she concedes the race. I'm not going to pay for her to continue it--that's just asking me to make a campaign contribution to a candidate I don't support, and who no longer stands any chance of winning.

In effect, though, you are paying for her to continue the race. If there is some understanding between the camps that Obama will help her retire her debt once she leaves the field, what's to stop her from continuing to rack up debt? If he did offer to help at some point, he needs to let her know that she needs to stop spending if she wants his help.

The longer she waits before backing off, the harder it will be for him to rally people to help with her debt.

As an Obama supporter, I'm open to this, but right now she's in Florida telling people that the eventual Dem nominee has cruelly disenfranchised them and doesn't care about them.

She has to dial it back if she wants anything from Obama at all.

And her campaign spokespersons continue to speak out in support of McCain.

Clinton doesn't need Obama's charity.

Clinton speaks the truth in Florida.

She needs someone's charity, because the fundraising obviously ain't cutting it.

Unless she's admitting that Florida was rightly punished by the DNC for violating the calendaring rules and that she AGREED with that punishment, then she's not telling the whole truth. Don't the people of Florida deserve the whole TRUTH?

Unless she's admitting that Florida was rightly punished by the DNC for violating the calendaring rules and that she AGREED with that punishment, then she's not telling the whole truth. Don't the people of Florida deserve the whole TRUTH?

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What Hillary is saying in Florida is a slap in the face for all Democrats who abide by rules. She said, "When we can glean the intent of the voters, those votes should be counted" - trying to tie her case to the memory of the 2000 election.

Well, Hillary, how do we glean the intent of all the voters in MI and FL who stayed home because their votes weren't going to count? As well, Hillary, how do we glean your intent after your flipflop; you agreed in late 2007 that voting in those two primaries would not count, and now say differently?

Will the real Hillary please stand up. Or are we forever going to get yet another heroine roleplay out of her like her Bosnia fakery?

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Once Hillary Concedes and drops out of the race, and that means substantially before the convention (no later than June 3).

Greg:

Can you confirm that the DNC has backed away from 2026 as the number needed to secure the nomination?

This number would only change if Florida and Michigan were seated at half-strength. Is that now the official position of the DNC--the nomination number is no longer 2026?

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2,026 is the number today.

At the May 31 meeting, there will be discussion of seating Michigan and Florida, either with the pledged halved or with both pledged and supers halved. Chuck Todd at MSNBC says on the First Read blog that there are signals that one or the other might happen.

Halving just pledged (seating supers) would make 2131 the magic number.

Halving all would make 2118 the needed total.

Any word on how the Uncommitteds will be allocated in MI and how Edwards' delegates will be allocated in FL?

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Every explanation from the Clinton camp comes with about a bazillion ifs, ands, and more ifs...

Her campaign is painfully strapped for cash, after running an inept campaign. Obama has cash by the boatload. Who's going to be the better executive?

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It can never be said often enough: Everything depends on what the meaning if "is" is.

;)

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And it can't be overstated how important the money game is to insiders as a sign of a candidate's strength (fair or unfair).

Imagine if the campaigns were much closer to a delegate tie - this would be a much bigger story in their conversations with superdelegates.

"Yeah, but Obama's an elitist, so that money must have come from his book sales, speeches, or shady Kazakh energy deals, or something. It doesn't really count like the all the small donations I am getting from hard working American, WHITE Americans that haven't finishes college that are supporting me."

-Hillary

With apologies, my snark is diluted by my poor spelling.

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Yes, the super delegates must be mightily impressed.

This is certainly excellent news. For Hillary.

Obviously, the person doing Hill's delegate math is also keeping the books.

"But we're not in the red. Terry, explain it to them."

Raising the question: What color is the sky on Planet Hillary?

These days the title of a fighter costs $11.4 million personal money + Dillion's Bicycle

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So other than the day of the Penn. primary she only raised $12 million?

Now there is a fine example of how a fiscally
responsible leader should handle things.

When will you Obamaniacs grasp that this proves Hillary is ready on day one to balance the national budget.

Does anyone here ever wonder if saying the url of Hillary Clinton's website is really that exciting for her supporters or is it just euphoria-enduced affectation.

For all the Obama rallies I've attended, I can't imagine the crowd getting as worked up over shouting "barackobama.com" as it would the usual standard fare (redundant, I know).

Then again, he doesn't need the money as badly and everyone in the crowd knows this.

Hillary always rattles her virtual tin cup.

As the latest debt report confirms, the May-June Clinton campaign is a smoke and mirrors operation largely oriented to the media, using money it does not have to press a case that stokes racial and gender tensions and unnecessarily distracts from party preparations for the general election.

I am suprised that people are not pointing out the obvious fact that this artificially never-ending exercise is using past and future business contributions (via speaking fees and non-collection by Penn's firm) to fund an operation that cannot be sustained on democratic grounds. That feminism is invoked to justify this is quite offensive to many of us who believe that women should fully compete as HRC has done -- yet with the understanding that women can lose as well as win the competition.

HRC is not accepting her obvious loss, and is not doing what she can to build toward a Democratic victory in 2008 that is far more important than her/Bill's personal aspirations. If Obama does lose in the fall in part because of the past weeks of Clinton undermining, HRC should realize that many people will know this and will not support her in 2012. At that point, if it comes, it will be even more important than it has been this year to move on to new people for the future.

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After watching the campaign Senator Clinton has been willing to wage, I would never support her in 2012, regardless of the outcome of this election.

Preach it!

The business contribution point deserves more emphasis.

Pathetic Gotalife hacker.

Enough is enough. Bag it.

I am gotalife, always have been. Lifelong dem.

You are not, and full of crap. Mcsamer.

Ignore the pale GotALife imitation below. He fakes the classic GotALife Haiku style below, but the real GotALife is now fully on board with Team Obama.

Yay!! Go Team Obama! And our newest member, and best fundraiser, GotALife.

BS.

Don't blame the Clinton's for for Obama's upcoming loss in the general.

That is pathetic.

So what you're saying is you prefer bongwater to Kool-AId?

Identity thief.

I have reported you.

I am the real gotalife. You are a mcsame kool aid guzzler.

I will not stand and see you take us down. I wil back Obama if he is nom.

We will win this time, 3 in a row is enough for me.

Duck! Run for cover, Prof. Skocpol!

Whew...so far, so good.

She always draws fire, when she visits us here in TPM-EC.

But, always great to see you!

I agree that Hillary's use of feminism as a weapon has been a shameful display during this campaign. And while she may be seeking to undermine Obama in November, I think the only thing she is succeeding in doing here is shooting herself in the foot. She doesn't appear to have enough support within the Party to pull the rug out from under Obama. And any attempts to do so between now and Election Day will just backfire on her. If she hasn't fully learned that lesson by now, it is sadly to her own detriment.

I am suprised that people are not pointing out the obvious fact that this artificially never-ending exercise is using past and future business contributions (via speaking fees and non-collection by Penn's firm) to fund an operation that cannot be sustained on democratic grounds.

Interesting point. My wife was wondering the other day whether self-financing, when your family wealth is largely derived from speaking fees due to fame as a former first couple, might not de facto avoid contribution limits. Sure, I can give at most $2,300 to the Clinton campaign, but suppose I ask Bill to give a speech to my organization and pay him $100k or so (not an unusual speaking fee for a former president)? Suppose I offer significantly more than his "usual" rate?

It clearly doesn't violate the letter of campaign finance laws, but it can arguably skirt the spirit of them.

Admittedly I don't have a good answer for the campaign finance problem. Whatever rules are put in place can be skirted in various ways, and as long as politics directly affects monied interests, money will find a way to influence politics. The best I hope for is some degree of reasonable disclosure of where the money is coming from, so you can see who the candidate owes.

I actually had the same question in regards to Bill's international benefactors.

It is my understanding that non-citizens are not allowed to contribute to campaigns - but what about self-financing when you actually make your money from foreign entities? If Bill is making money working on behalf of foreign governments and they lend her campaign money isn't that a sort of contribution?

In response to Fosberry -
I did read about a week ago that Sentor Clinton's first loan came from her own funds. The amounts loaned later came from joint funds (Bill + Hill). There is a question about the joint funds because they were raised by ex-pres. Bill. Right now it looks like this is allowed only because of a loop-hole in the election laws that will probably be closed. This is one of the many conflict of interest problems that concerned me when she first started to run. How is this different from Father/Son or Mother/Daughter? One would be parent/child rarely have joint accounts.
Is it true Sentor Clinton cannot pay her self back until after the convention? Does she have to pay her creditors first? Or does she get to repay herself first?

Her debt as of the end of the month is $9.5MM, not $8MM. The $1.4MM wasn't loaned until May and therefore isn't reflected in her April totals.

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Good catch.

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Confusion: I followed the link, and found that Hillary's official filing shows only two loans to her campaign of 5 million each. What happened to the other 1.4 or 1.6 million she loaned her campaign?

Also, she is allowing debts to vendors to stay oh her books for months, though I understood a campaign spokesperson to say the old ones had been paid. For example, she still owes Jewel in Iowa for catering costs. Something needs to be publicized about her debts, which are affecting a lot of folks across the land; perhaps that publicity would shame her into taking adult responsibility for her obligations.

They were made in May, so aren't included on the April report.

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Thanks, I saw your information already posted right after I posted my comment.

So?

She only has those ubber-expensive Montana and South Dakota primaries left. For what does she need money?

This Clinton campaign will go down in textbooks as among the worst-managed ever. Nearly every woman I know is better with her own finances than I am. But Barbie's "Math is hard!" is the default label that sexists will stick on Hillary. Whether you're the first black or the first woman, you are cut no slack, but Hillary is actively making her money morass worse as we type.

In honor of this news, I'm sending another $100 to the Obama campaign. Maybe that'll send a message to the supers.

I'll be happy to explain it. You see, this money is only theoretical -- like Monopoly money. So, we're really not in debt, theoretically. And, come to think of it, this whole pledged delegate business is theoretical.

If you add in the Popular Vote of Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands and the Philippines -- and ignore those states that don't really matter in the the electoral map scheme of things, Hillary is leading.

Simple, eh?

Miss. Democratic chairman commits to Obama as superdelegate
The Associated Press

http://www.sunherald.com/306/story/577124.html

JACKSON, Miss. --
Mississippi Democratic Party chairman Wayne Dowdy says he is committed to Sen. Barack Obama in the presidential race.

Dowdy is a superdelegate to the Democratic National Convention, and he had been holding off on deciding between Obama and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Dowdy tells The Associated Press that he made his decision Wednesday after becoming convinced that Obama has enough support to secure the nomination. Dowdy says he hopes Clinton is chosen for vice president

How could a candidate run the GE without money or in debt for that matter?

Has it ever happened in American history?

In any case, Obama has won pure and simple.

So now money should decide who is an acceptable nominee.

Cynicism at its worst.

If my "registered user troll" thinks a small comittee should make Hillary the nominee, and not the American people, he doesn't seem to share the values of most Hillary supporters.

I want her to be president, but not enough to risk a MCCain presidency.

I'm now listening to Obama with an open mind. He's got a lot more in common with Clinton than some of my more cynical Clinton supporters might think.

Give him a listen for a change and start thinking about what's best for our country, not just our individual whims. This is far too serious to be taken lightly in tit for tat infighting.

What do you have to say "registereduser" - care to work it out here on the blog?

Gotalife (fake)

Again - you lie with your fake posts

I have never swore in my posts, you have. You are the fake gotalife.

I am a lifelong Clinton supporter. Hillar Clinton is a fighter.

But if she can't fight Mcsame and Obama can - I am with Obama.

You are so sad.

Presence of money? No. Capable management of money, considering she's a candidate for the highest Executive Branch position there is?

Absolutely.

Yeah, they all said it was over after Iowa because the masses swallowed his kool aid.

It is not over until all Americans have voted and the supers give it to Obama.

When will this candidate step up and lead on anything?

Speeches are not solutions.

Speeches are the kool aid.

Don't blame Clinton when he loses because he is not a leader or a fighter.

You should stop hating the Clintons, get up off your fat asses and help get the voters the proper ID to vote.

I'm more of a Capri Sun man, myself.

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Wow! This is like gotalife on steroids. Same short sentences, but many more of them.

You on some sort of illegal substance?

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NOTHING IS OVER UNTIL WE DECIDE IT IS!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lf74T5t-f3k

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Better youtube of same:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fO6LVE_P-A8

I agree that we need to work hard for dem, nominee, but if it Obama is nom, I will support.

I will not suppoort fake Gotalife hacker. There are like 3 of you now swirling in your cool aid crazyness.

I have decided to have an open mind, now they are trying to get me.

I am the ONLY gotalife ther is.

Again, I apologize. I just wish I had real human contact. I'm very sad.

This is simply a sad schizophrenic play for attention.

On your fourth incarnation you'll have reconciled all your warring selves and be wholeheartedly for Obama!

Money is a big signifier to superdelegates of the actual underlying support.

I also read somewhere (Time.com I think) that "Hillary '08" merchandise is now 50% in the D.C. airport. That would be another negative signifier. Not to sound too much like a GOPer, but the open market rarely lies.

Now THAT is funny. "It's our Memorial Day Clearance Sale!! Hillary gear at LOW LOW ROCK BOTTOM PRICES!"

So far today Senator Obama has gained:

"Mississippi Democratic Party Chairman Wayne Dowdy and Connecticut Rep. Joe Courtney, whose district voted for Clinton in the state's Feb. 5 primary won by Obama, padded the Illinois senator's lead with superdelegates by declaring their support. Superdelegates are party insiders who are not tied to the outcome of state contests.

Obama picked up another big labor endorsement, from the United Mine Workers of America."

I don't see why Obama should do anything to help her retire her debt. She continued long past the time when all she had left was a chance that depended on her getting what, 70% in each of the remaining primaries? Anyone else would have quit at that point. There's no reason for any money that could go to the GE be used to fund something that hurt the Dem nominee.

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The reason that Obama can not assist paying down Clinton's debt is the law . . . Thumb-nail summary: It is legal for a candidate to pay another to get outta the race.

Additionally, Clinton's campaign is not about why can't she leave. Clinton's campaign is about staying in the race. Clinton is not leaving. Whatever Clinton's reasoning for riding this pony into hell, she will be chard before she quits.

Obama supporters, forget about Hillary for a second. Think about the regular folks she owes money to.

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I've said it before. Bring me the list of payables. I'll help pay the small vendors (printers, venues, etc.) and the street-level paid staffers. Not a dime for Penn, Wolfson, McAulliffe or the personal loans.

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I do think about the regular folks she owes money to. I would like to see an investigative reporter do a whole segment interviewing some she has stiffed. It would put a perspective on her staff stiffing that Iowa waitress, but more importantly, it would put faces to the regular folks having to try to balance their books while she does nothing to balance hers.

If Hillary and Bill had any scruples left, they would loan the campaign a chunk of their personnal money to pay off those regular folks asap. It is those who are owed who feel the pain of it, not the Clintons.

No one should accept goods and services from regular people if they don't have the means to pay for them. It's true for you and me, and it's true for a national campaign.

If I sign a contract to get 50,000 bumper stickers printed up, full payment becomes a matter of my personal honor. That's ethics. If I ever signed a contract with you, I hope you'd hold me to that standard.

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Greg,

Thank you. This is the drill-down on the info I was looking for last night when the Clinton campaign released their 'fund-raising' numbers.

I appreciate this as it places the situation in its realistic perspective.

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EXCELLENT NEWS!!!!

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Also excellent news for dyslexics . . .

How is this a story? Just because Obama is the darling of limosine liberals doesn't mean that working class democrats can't vote for a candidate of their own. It amazes me how much elitist Obama supporters sound just like Republicans. For all their empty rhetoric, scratch an Obamaton, and it's ALL about the money.

It doesn't matter that Hillary is winning the popular vote by almost 200,000 votes.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/D.phtml

She still shouldn't even be running because she doesn't have the money to play in the corrupt system that Obama preaches against in a very sanctimonious way, while at the same time profiting from in a very big way.

The amazing thing is that Obama is lined up to become the first presidential candidate since the creation of public financing to forgo public financing in the general election. And this from the candidate who preaches against the evils of money in politics? The more that you look at the guy, the more he is just like Bush. He says one thing and does exactly the opposite.

I hate to break the news anti-einstien- campaign heavily funded by more than 3 mil small donors is a campaign on public financing.

If your idea of changing America is lying about the difference between public and private financing of campaigns, God help our country.

You seem very confused: "Public financing" means the money comes from ALL the people publicly through their government and through their tax dollars, and it gives the same amount to each candidate.

"Private financing" means that private individuals and corporations can privately give to those candidates that represents only their interests and viewpoint. In such a system, the interests of the wealthy will always have priority over those of those with less money.

Also: your number of 3 million small donors is bogus because it includes many people who have donated more than once. The real figure is about 1 million individual private donors, and with about 300 million individual citizens (not including illegals), that means about 1 in 300 American citizens have donated to Obama's campaign, most of them were limousine liberals and elitist punks spending their dad's hard-earned money.

Another new tit bit before you any further hail your Queen- she is a crook only no one has run an ad against her in this campaign. She is coming out of the process pretending to be a voice for the lower class which is ironic at best and stinking filthy at worst.

Hillary represents a lot of vulgarity in the politics of last two decades.

Congratulations. Your arrogant personal slander and invective against a legitimate democratic candidate makes Obama look even more like the elitist loser that he is.

Personal slander- yeah right. She's a crook and be thankful she hasn't been exposed as a frontrunner in the race. If that were the case the Tulza Queen's escapades would be breaking news on primetime. Don't make her a goddess now that she's at the end of her presidential dreams.

You're badly mistaken. Obama is the candidate with close connections to political crooks like Tony Rezco.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/02/01/rezko/

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I used the link, hoping to find the actual way in which that 'popular vote' count was done. Nada. So much for that site, nothing in the world to back up their math.

nothing in the world to back up their math

Nothing at all but reality. You can either go to this site:

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/D.phtml

or to this site:


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

In either case, when you count ALL of the votes, Hillary is well ahead - and will be even further ahead after Puerto Rico.

You almost had me there...!

Hillary needs to drop out because she is hurting Obama's donations. I and many of the frequent Obama donors who reward him when he makes a great speech or when Hillary does something super negative, have been holding out giving to Obama after North Carolina and Indiana... the line in the sand which the Clinton team drew... and then redrew when it failed to be to her advantage, because she lost the whole thing and we don't want our donations to go to paying her campaign debt. That money should go to fighting McCain and Hillary is just emotionally vampiring the whole Democratic Party like a psycho ex who just won't admit it is over.

Hillary needs to drop out because she is hurting Obama's donations.

Obama needs to drop out because he is hurting Hillary's donations.

It's quite stunning to watch the Dem power brokers sit on their hands as Hillary proceeds to de-legitimize Obama's eventual nomination. And she's not doing so quietly: today she compared her Florida effort to seat the delegation to the fight against slavery. And she's claiming that Obama's stance is equivalent to Bush 2000. She is truly demented and dangerous. The only thing more remarkable is that Pelosi, Gore, etc are letting her and Bill get away with this.

The only one de-legitimatizing Obama is Obama. If he wants to win by disenfranchising the voters of Florida and Michigan and after losing the popular vote, HE IS ILLEGITIMATE, and no amount of fast-talking BS is going to change the facts.

The problem with Obama is that he is playing the race card. He is saying that unless you nominate me, the Democratic Party is racist. When the truth is that he and his racist pastor are the real racists who think Obama deserves the nomination because he is black and oppressed, even though he can only win by disenfranchising millions of voters and ignoring the will of the majority of voting democrats.

As for Obama, he *should* do fundraising... for the DNC. He should be raising money for people who will actually be running for office in 2008, and who have a chance of winning... not throwing the money he raises down a well that's limited only by the extent that the Clintons are willing to go into debt in order to carry on a campaign that would've been concluded months ago by a less "entitled" candidate.

Dragging out a losing battle at the expense of $100 million that would otherwise have gone to Democratic candidates nationwide isn't being a "fighter". It's being a stupid, wasteful Scaife-gladhanding, Limbaugh-coddling egotist.

Really, I haven't seen such a bad call since Pickett's charge. Utter futility and a horrible waste for all involved.

Now we know how the government wastes so much money!

Why doesn't Obama drop out so that Hillary can begin raising money for the DNC, since Hillary has won the popular vote?

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/D.phtml

By the way only rocket scientists like you buy into the numbers that come out Hillary's ass. You're acting all upright about the discourse- Will Obama be awarded 0 votes in MI? Is that a contest? Why did she sign and claim MI doesn't count on the radio show in NH and now act as if she cares. Clintons as power hugry political whores- she is at the moment holding DNC hostage with her threats and B.S.

You're badly mistaken once again. The numbers come from tallying the votes of American citizens like yourself, assuming that you are old enough to vote. Just because they don't add up the way you like doesn't mean they don't count for anything.

As for Michigan and Obama's failed strategy in that particular state, why don't we also do-over all the states where Hillary's strategy didn't pan out? And Hillary certainly NEVER signed any promise to help disenfranchise the voters of Michigan and Florida. That's another lie propagated by the Obamatons who hate democracy. And it was also Obama who scuttled any chance to have a do-over in Michigan, and who will not allow the voters in Florida to be heard either. Because his strategy is NOT to follow the rules, but to win by disenfranchising voters. The same way that Bush won.

I predicted this 3 weeks ago!

The way most people count Obama is up by over 550K in the popular vote. Not that the popular vote is really important in picking the nominee.

The way most people count Obama is up by over 550K
Only if 'most people' don't know how to count.
Not that the popular vote is really important

Not that the popular vote is important. Not that Appalachia is important. Not that working class people are important. Not that Florida or Michigan are important. Not that Ohio or Pennsylvania are important. Not that Hispanics are important. Not that old people are important.

The only thing things important to Obama are his race, his money, and his ability to disenfranchise voters and subvert the will of the people.

rstephen --- Obama has over taken HRC in Hispanic support -- some wonder after her U.S.A. today comments.

The debt figure has convenietly removed the debt to Penn and Mollie Grunwald and other consultants -- so I seriously doubt its accuracy.

Obama did not do anything different than HRC, Edwards and all the other Candidates at the will of the DNC. Terry Mac, Harold Ickes and the Clintons wrote the damn rules on delegates and the MI/FL penalty...

Here's what I don't get- Hillary is drowning in debt, but at the recent Nevada convention she treated all her delegates to a free lunch, and several of her delegates told me their transportation and rooms were paid for as well, we Obama delegates paid for all of our own expenses and we outnumbered HRC delegates in sufficient numbers to get another delegate for BO.
At the Colorado state convention, while Obama delegates paid for their own food, Clinton delegates received an unlimited supply of $5.00 food and beverage coupons.
What does that say about her ability to manage money, let alone manage her own campaign?

It says that Hillary treats her people with respect and compassion while Obama treats them like a miserly dictator or a cult leader.

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