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Here's The New Oregon Ad By Pro-Hillary Group -- No Mention Of Obama
Here's the spot that the pro-Hillary 527 American Leadership Project is airing in Oregon, starting today...
ALP will spend up to $500,000 on the buy, as I reported below.
The spot is an all-positive one touting her strength on the economy, a major departure for the group, which had aired a string of ads attacking Obama in other states.
The shift to a positive spot suggests that ALP's major backers -- unions and big Hillary donors -- may recognize that the contest is all but over, don't want to damage Obama in advance of his inevitable general election candidacy, and don't want to further alienate the party's all but certain nominee.
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More than anything, it suggests that they like to flush wads of money down the crapper.
May 15, 2008 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
OPERATION BOARD GAMES
AND SO IT STARTS
Obama Helped Supporters Get Millions in Illinois State Business
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4861699&page=1
SEE YA IN COURT.
May 15, 2008 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're kidding right.
Did you bother to read the synopsis?
The executive director of an Illinois ethics watchdog group calls it politics as usual. "Did he get contributions from those companies down the line? Yeah. That story's been told a million times in American politics, and it will be told a million times more," said Jay Stewart of the Illinois-based Better Government Association. "I don't think Obama's any different."
In other words: "There's no there, there."
And in regards to your court threat: case dismissed. Obama's going to have the required delegate count regardless of Clinton math Nuff said.
May 15, 2008 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, I've been saying that for months.
May 15, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's actually somewhat different than you and I however.
It's a pretty safe bet neither of us will ever be President-Elect. Obama will be...
May 15, 2008 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
But are we going to have to hear about this "new politics" crap all through the general? Or can we give it a rest now?
May 15, 2008 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Every time McCain and crew take the low-road, we will rightly pivot on how they are stuck using the failed trash-mouth gutter politics of the past.
The more nuclear McCain goes, the more it validates Obama's position to the public.
May 15, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Goddamn!
Oregon has already voted, for the most part, Hillary already lost, 6 weeks ago, and if the race was still alive, she would lose in Oregon.
What are they up to?
May 15, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
VP Audition tape??
May 15, 2008 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Call hillary clinton???"
Instead of vote for her... call her...
This ad is a form of plastic surgery for hillary.
May 15, 2008 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think they're not allowed to say "vote for her." Because the nature of the 527s is that they're supposed to be advocating issues, not candidates. It's a loophole.
May 15, 2008 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
The shift to a positive spot suggests that ALP's major backers -- unions and big Hillary donors -- may recognize that the contest is all but over, don't want to damage Obama in advance of his inevitable general election candidacy, and don't want to further alienate the party's all but certain nominee.
It suggests to me they've got too much money to piss away.
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May 15, 2008 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
As I remember Clintons took money from "a boy who sold his bicycle and video game for her campaign"? I don't think these people have any idea what they are doing with money judging from the result.
May 15, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
O but she wants us to hand her the economy of the whole United States and she's campaigning on that basis. And her fucking campaign has not handled their money worth a damn.
She's a walking ad against her own candidacy.
May 15, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm concerned about the mental stability of any 11-year-old boy who would sell his bike and video games to give money to Hillary Clinton's campaign.
May 15, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, and I wonder about his parents.
May 15, 2008 2:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is this really what the Dem primary has come down to?...bashing 11 year-old kids and their parents because they have the unmitigated nerve of supporting Hillary? I think that some self-evaluation may be in order for the Dem party if this is what we've been reduced to.
May 15, 2008 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Proof positive that No Child Left Behind has failed us.
Obama/Olbermann '08!
May 15, 2008 2:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's really too bad she didn't strike a similar tone early on. She might still have my vote...
May 15, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
How much did ALP spend on production for this ad? $10?!?
I've seen better spots for used-car lots.
Obama/Olbermann '08!
May 15, 2008 2:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not only is the entire contest almost already over, the Oregon primary is essentially over as well.
May 15, 2008 2:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aren't 527s supposed to advocate for issues? What issue are they advocating? I'm not sure "Clinton is going to loose the nomination" is a valid issue according to the FEC.
May 15, 2008 2:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's clear to me the issue is "How to blow half a mil on a crappy commercial for a pathetic candidate" ...
Or maybe the issue is that Hillary's lonely and needs someone to talk to ("Call Hillary Clinton ...") ...
Seriously, I'm sure they would argue it was an economic ad. There's a ridiculous amount of interpretive leeway when it comes to 527s.
Obama/Olbermann '08!
May 15, 2008 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome to the Fall campaign.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmWEaqxkGtU&eurl=http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0508/Tennessee_GOP_plays_patriotism_card_against_Michelle_Obama_.html
May 15, 2008 2:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Could that ad be any more filled with weak-sauce?
Do you, honestly, think that the GOP wouldn't run Bosnia/Sniper-gate ads 24/7 if Hillary won the primary?
The fact that they have to go after Michelle, who isn't even running for office, is indicative that Obama is the BETTER candidate for the fall. The ONLY thing that they can go after is his wife and guilt-by-association types (Wright, et al).
If they had the opportunity to go after Clinton, they'd have 6 years of Opposition research and videotape of her lying to the American People.
Oh...and they might have a thing or two on her spouse too....
Weak.
May 15, 2008 2:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do they really want to drag the wives into this? Really. They want Cindy McCain out in front?
That is going to backfire. The more over the top they get, the worse it will be for them.
When you've so obviously fucked up the national security and economic well-being of the country, saying I love my country more than the other guy just doesn't work.
May 15, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
How come Hillary is not spending money here in Oregon herself?
Oh yeah:
1) at this stage it q waste of resources
2) it would be money her campaign doesn't have (her campaign is $20+ million in the hole)
3) They know that Oregon is a lost cause for them (or rather they should if they rejoin us here on planet earth)
That neither the Clinton camp nor the Obama camp are hitting Oregon hard (and no longer even visiting the state) should tell anyone who actually understands these things that Oregon's vote was lost to Hillary awhile ago and that throwing more money at it here is a waste of resources that would change nothing on May 20th.
Obama will be back in this state to celebrate on the 20th, when he officially put the nomination mathematically in a vapor lock for Clinton (i.e. when it is mathematically impossible for Clinton to overtake the pledged delegate count even if every remaining pledged delegate on the table went 100% for CLtinon).
May 15, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
And yet they had the unmitigated balls to accuse Obama in West Virginia of the very same thing they're doing in Oregon (not spending money, not visiting frequently, not taking WV seriously, writing off WV, blah blah blah). The hypocrisy of the Clinton camp continues to amaze me.
May 15, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
So I guess Harry Reid was watching "very closely" when Joe Lieberman seconded Bush's appeasement comment today.
May 15, 2008 2:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Easy now.
Joe Lieberman becomes irrelevant in November.
Once he can't affect the Senate votes one way or the other, watch Reid drive a double-decker bus over him and then rinse and repeat.
Lieberman will be a persona non grata in January and then politically extinct when this term ends.
May 15, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't wait and I expect to see this, too.
I think we will - I don't think Harry has been happy about being held up by that total wanker and turncoat, Liebertool.
May 15, 2008 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Strongly worded 'letter of concern' writing time for Reid's secretary.
;-)
May 15, 2008 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
They spent half a million dollars on a product with zero net impact. Do they just need to justify their budget?
I could tell Joe Liberman and George W. Bush a thing or two abotu appeasement out here. Trust me... I pay Iraqi contracts. There is nothing more appeasing than General Petraeus' hearts and minds strategy.
May 15, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
If the Clinton campaign's object is to win KY by a much bigger margin that Obama wins OR, then it makes good sense to spend $ on the remaining 50% of Oregonians who haven't voted yet. A 5 percent gain could reduce Hillary's loss to 15% or less, while Obama is likely to lose KY by at least 35%. The media have already decided that KY is the state to watch Tuesday night to see if it repeats the WV blowout. The spin will be: Hillary does more than twice as well in Obama's state as Obama does in hers -- you know, the usual campaign spin and pundit crap. I can see and hear Pat Buchanan now, hacking the air with his two palms and stridently proclaiming the presumptive nominee's shocking performance. Ultimately, of course, it won't make any difference and will probably only result in another big Obama endorsement the next day. Still, a series of blue collar "embarrassments" for Obama is all Madame Clinton has going for her these days -- and remember; there's always a chance lightening will strike. So why not spend the money? She sure as heck ain't droppin out.
May 15, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Obama and Hillary are strong candidates. I prefer Obama because I think he embodies our best chance to heal at home and return to our "beacon of hope" status abroad.
That said, am I the only one who thinks that --- in this particular election cycle against this particular Republican candidate --- a stuttering nympho crackhead could win, as long as she was wearing a donkey lapel pin?
I ain't buying this battleground states crap at all. To me, it's all about which of the two I want as my president, because either would wipe the floor with McCain --- IF he doesn't suffer some fatal implosion (Remember, he is a dottering old man who stinks of the Keating Five).
Obama/Olbermann '08!
May 15, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
You may be greatly under-estimating the stupid-stupider-stupidest vote, by far the largest constituency in the USA, sweet land of liberty, god's country, and one kick-ass military power on the world scene. USA! USA! USA! Can John McCain win? Hell YES he can win! Don't fool yourself. We're in for one nasty brawl.
May 15, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
O come on - If there is anything I hate it is the ugly attitude some liberals have toward Americans in general. I find that anti-thetical to democracy.
I don't happen to think Americans are stupid by any means.
May 15, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's ironic is, Oregon is a more "white" state than Kentucky.
May 15, 2008 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama does great west of the Mississippi and let me tell you - the western slope of the Rockies all the way to Utah and in some cases, the coast - is the whitest part of this entire country.
You can go days and see nothing but white people out west.
And he does very well there.
May 15, 2008 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Living in the urban center in America (Portland Oregon) you don't have to tell me, and watch what Obama's numbers are going to be like in Multnomah, Washington and Clackamas counties. He will obliterate Clinton here in the Portland metro, but hey... he has trouble with "us" white folks.. or something.
Just ask Pat Buchanan.
;-)
May 15, 2008 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
And checking in from Clatsop County (the NW edge of the state) this rural district looks good for Obama.
In the last few election cycles, Clatsop and Multnomah counties voted for Dems the most heavily. We have a high ratio of progressive activists. I'm getting the feeling he'll do well here.
May 15, 2008 10:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
They spent half a million dollars on a product with zero net impact. Do they just need to justify their budget?
I could tell Joe Liberman and George W. Bush a thing or two abotu appeasement out here. Trust me... I pay Iraqi contracts. There is nothing more appeasing than General Petraeus' hearts and minds strategy.
May 15, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
The race is not over.
Obama is still vulnerable.
The appeaser moniker will stick. Obama the Appeaser.
In my youth I would have elected Abbie Hoffman as president. In hindsight that was just youthful enthusiasm and naivite. The Obama campaign falls into that same catergory, bolstered by idealistic but unrealistic youth.
You all should read the new Atlantic if you want to be scared about the mindset that supports Obama.
Clinton remains the best choice.
May 15, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
When I lose my idealism with regard to how my country could and should be governed, kick me in a six-foot-deep hole and start shovelin'.
Unrealistic? No. I know we have a shitpot FULL of work to do to repair the damage of the most catastrophic presidency of my lifetime. I know it'll take sacrifice from ALL of us. And I know that the repair work will extend long beyond the Obama presidency.
But I shall remain defiantly unrepentant of my idealism.
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Obama/Olbermann '08!
May 15, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Back to the ol' young naive people support Obama schtick.
Guess my 43 year old white ass is just too naive to realize that this is really still the 1960s and that Barack Obama is Abby Hoffman (wait, I thought he was Bill Ayers.. so hard to keep straight which is the correct 60s radical icon we are suppose to conflate Obama with according to you nutters).
You sound like an ex far-left radical who ran the other way when Reagan came to town, like the neocons who used to be trotskyites in the 60s and are the architects of the shit that is the Bush administration.
As the skank Andrea Mitchell rightly interjected (hey, stopped clocks and all) when Pat Buchanan went on his racist tear the other night live on television, this isn't 1960 fogu2. The world has passed you and Pat by and is in a new millennium.
May 15, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
O thanks for that. You have no idea how flattering that is. I absolutely adore being seen as an idealistic but unrealistic young person.
;)
May 15, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me too!!! I LOVE it when something thinks I'm an idealistic but unrealistic youth!!! ;) Thanks, fogu2!
May 15, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wasn't talking about you two.
You're not youthful, just childish.
May 15, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
You forgot the "and your mom dresses you funny" part to make your self-parody complete.
May 15, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am looking forward to an orderly election in Oregon, which will eliminate the need for a violent blood bath.
May 15, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I'm looking forward to Clinton doing better than expected while Obama gets hammered by McCain.
By convention time there will be increasing doubts about Obama.
The question is whether the leaders remain the first lemmings leading you all off the cliff.
May 15, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why are they still putting money into this...it seems like an issue of pride
May 15, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where's the gas tax holiday and windfall profit tax in this ad? C'mon, that sham was a big winner in IN and NC! LOL!
May 15, 2008 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
This ad just reminds us Oregon voters that Hillary won the endorsement of the biggest piece of crap Conservative paper in the state. This ad may actually increase Obama's votes here by reminding people that haven't voted that it is really important to send that ballot in marked for Obama.
May 15, 2008 6:52 PM | Reply | Permalink