Obama people never say anything absurb or provocative enough to warrant a post, apparently.

Hillary who?

Was there tittering, giggles - outright laughing?

I would like to request that you patch us into these calls. They must be a riot!

It's the Maps Stupids!!!

Obama electoral map looks terrible. MI, OH and VA are key states. Obama needs to win at least 2 of these states. If he loses 2 of these states it's all over.

He's pretty deep in the hole, considering that he lost to Hillary be a wide margin in OH and the fact that he wants to punish MI democrats for voting overwhelmingly for Hillary.

The remaining supers know to read a map and will make the appropriate decisions.

AMC at Time's Swampland almost always posts a link to them where you can hear them live.

NEWS FLASH!!!

Hillary Clinton still has no chance of winning the nomination!!!

Also, Princess Diana is still dead.

When Baghdad Harold speaks, TPM listens.

I will be glad to see the day when the clintons names aren't pasted all over every single political blog ad nauseum. How many clinton fantasy stories in a row? Six. There is no other political news except for clinton fantasies? It really is absurd. I am sooo sick of seeing that name clinton. It's tiresome.

Hopefully, these fantasy stories will be done after the convention at least. Maybe we can have a bunch of stories about how the clintons are destroying the party from now until then? Or maybe how about some stories about how they are trying to knee cap the nominee so that he loses in November for the greater good of the clintons? Pathetic.

Ye Olde War Jesters.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/05/28/gall.bushmccain.gi.jpg

One other thing, why is it always "hillary" and everybody else is referred to by their last name. Can't you guys at least be consistent. Hillary, give me a break.

there are 13 clinton supporters, who are members on the board that will be taking up the issue this saturday, while Obama has 8 supporters and 9 are uncommitted.....

that is a good possiblity that Hillary will win her case this Saturday.....

If she loses.... it won't be that bad of a lost because they will likely split the delegates 50/50 from both states or possibly 60/40 from both states.

I can't see the board continueing to strip them of all there delegates or asking the parties to have re-votes in both states.

Things look good for Hillary:)

GO HILLARY.... keep fighter for america:)

States that violate the rules that they signed off on must be penalized, or no states will ever again abide by the rules.

You can not punish all the states that followed the rules, by allowing the two states that willfully violated the rules, to become Queen makers.

We do not allow the criminals to run the courts.

This is total BS crap.

Math is kool aid!

Michael A,

She is called Hillary because that is what she calls herself. Look at her bumberstickers and signs; they all say "Hillary".

It makes sense from her campaigns perspective to do this too; it shows that she is a woman and not her husband.

To always call her "Clinton" would be against her wishes. I tend to call people what they want to be called. It is good manners.

Call her Senator Clinton. That will distinguish her from her Husband, and address her by her current office title.

Delegates: Pledged Super Total Needed
Obama 1,660.5 318.5 1,979 46

Clinton 1,499.5 280.5 1,780 245

once in a while I fear that somehow Hillary will come out on top and volcanic anger stirs inside of me.

Because it's hilarious.

Lol. Y'all really should leave that Greg guy alone. He's just doing his job, keeping us updated on ALL the news.

Fret not, Matt. If it were possible, it would have happened by now. She's hanging by the barest of threads, and the Supers are heading for that thread with a razor-sharp blade. They would have buried her weeks ago, but she's being granted special "privileges" due to her association with Bill Clinton. Once the final votes are cast on June 3rd, and Camp Clinton can no longer chant "let everyone vote first," they're going to drop the pellet on her faster than you can say "Travelgate."

oooops not 49.. should read 40

I'm going to miss these conference calls when it's all over for her. Sniff. Keep posting on them, Greg, at the least for posterity. Some day our grandchildren will pour through them amazed at how much b.s. people can sling and not be laughed off the stage.

A federal judge in Tampa has again tossed out a lawsuit filed by a Florida political consultant angry that his vote in the state's Democratic primary will not count.

...

Judge Richard A. Lazzara agreed with the DNC, which said that it its practices are not discriminatory and political parties have a constitutional right to determine how delegates are selected in their nominating process. The party has stripped Florida and Michigan of all their delegates for bucking party rules and holding their primaries early.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/05/28/florida_voters_lawsuit_dismiss.html

and in other breaking news:

MOST SNAKES ARE LONGER THAN OTHERS

let's see em prove that one wrong

Jesus Christ! What the hell is wrong with these people? There are Democrats. There are Republicans. Then there are Clintonites. A bunch of mentally-ill whacko's with nothing else to do but blow smoke up our collective asses. Can we PLEASE ignore these pricks TPM? Media? Anyone?????

Greg - You sure do take some heat, and I think many of us appreciate your willingness to do so and then take the time to respond. If I were to critique anything, it is more often the headline than the content, and that would be the case this time.

My concern is this: the MSM has been quite guilty of parroting whatever the political noise machines tell them. Instead of reporting the news with an objective critique of what's being said, much of the media seems to be quite willing to act as the loudspeaker for the spinmasters, particularly when it sells papers and air time - or add space.

Certainly, TPM is pretty good at critiquing instead of parroting, and that's why many of us appreciate the work all of you do at TPM. Nevertheless, there's room for improvement: while the conclusion your article draws is indeed critical of Ickes assertions, the headline still serves to amplify the Clinton campaign's message. Of course, you did put quotes around "A Few", which seems to suggest doubt about the statement. But, the headline should reflect the purpose of, or conclusions drawn within the article. So, in this case, it might have been more appropriate to add a couple words to clarify what the news is - not simply that Ickes spoke, but that he spoke and his argument is weak:

"Harold Ickes specious argument: Hillary Will Need "A Few" More Super-Dels Than Obama To Catch Him"

Of course, I understand most political spin is usually full of 'specious arguments', and so you have to find new ways to say it in order to not sound redundant. But, my point is that being a bit more explicit with the headlines may help to ensure that TPM isn't a tool of political hypesters. An additional bonus: you may avoid some of the overblown criticism targeted at you (which I assume would be a welcomed change).

Re: "She would then need at least three-fourths of those nearly 200 super-dels to support her -- and not Obama -- in order to overtake him."

If that's the case, then it looks like it's over and the continuing FL and MI spectacle, is mere Kabuki style drama.
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The endorsement by US Rep. Dennis Cardoza (D-California) of Obama today sends an extremely firm message to the Clinton campaign, and not only because he was, until today, a Clinton superdelegate.

The Field has learned that Cardoza is the first of a group of at least 40 Clinton delegates, many of them from California, that through talking among themselves came to a joint decision that all of them would vote for Obama at the convention. They have informed Senator Clinton that it’s time to unite around Obama, and that they will be coming out, one or two at a time, and announcing their switch between now and the convention if Senator Clinton doesn’t do the same.

More here:

http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=1258

Isn't Ickes the one who pushed Ted Kennedy to the convention floor back in 1980? A "few" behind gives them the rationale to keep going. This is scary actually.

Hey Greg, wasn't this the same guy that voted to take the delegates away from FL & MI?

This is neither interesting, nor news. Nor is it terribly outrageous by Hillary standards. So, yawns all around.

Obama is going to kill in the fall. Its going to be a great big blue country with a hillbilly red patch in the east that includes KY, WV, TN, SC, GA, MS and AL. He'll squeak by along the southern Mississippi River and in states like OH and PA, and win handily along the northern Mississippi. He'll kill in the west with the exception of a stripe running roughly from ID down to AZ, and I don't think he should be ruled out in TX. Nonetheless, even without TX, it will be a rout.

Good times.

PLEEEEEAAAASSSSSEEEEE!!!!!!! MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!!

Well, this article was good for one thing. It prompted me to go back and calculate how many pledged delegates Senator Clinton has netted from recent races. I was curious about how many similar states it would take to make up the 198 total delegate lead that Obama has today. VELLY Interesting! Turns out that if you take all of her net delegates in the states she won all the way back to New Hampshire, she has only netted a total of 224 pledged delegates. In fact, going all the way back to Super Tuesday on February 5th, only basically Kentucky put her over the 198 total delegate lead that Obama holds. So much for small leads Huh?
Here are her total nets:

KY 23, WV 12,IN 4, PA 12, RI 5, OH 9, TN 12, NM 2, AZ 6, CA 36, OK 10, AR 19, NY 46, MA 17, NJ 11.

Total net pledged delegates from all states won by Hillary Clinton equals 224. Obama's ahead by 198 total delegates as of 5/28/08. Basically, she'd need to win by her totals all over again to catch up. NOT such a little number huh?

Well, it's hardly a "few" delegates but it's still possible. Right now MSNBC has Hillary down 149 PLEDGED delegates. When you count Puerto Rico, MI/FL compromise that lead will narrow probably to less than 100. Then the super delegates will have to decide. And if this goes to the convention Hillary could certainly peel over 100 super delegates or so to win the nomination, especially if Obama continues to look weak against McCain. If nothing else, she will be VP.