Edwards: "Democratic Voters Have Made Their Choice, And So Have I"
In his endorsement speech, Edwards boiled it down:
"The reason I am here tonight is that the Democratic voters in America have made their choice, and so have I."
Edwards rattled through some of his familiar, if now distant, exhortations about "one America." In a rousing summation, he talked about the struggles of the poor, the difficulties of those coping without health insurance, and veterans who were returning home only to face neglect.
"No more in our America," Edwards concluded, "when Barack Obama is President of the United States of America!"
But most significantly, Edwards effectively said, "The Democrats have made their choice. The primary is over," precisely at a moment when the Hillary campaign is making the opposite case. You really couldn't imagine a moment more perfectly scripted for the Obama campaign, coming right after Obama's lopsided loss in West Virginia, than this.
Hillary,
Time to do it. Time to pass on your quest.
You'll look good doing it, Hillary--really!
The news cycle will say great things about you!
For a moment it will still be about you.
--okay, I can dream, can't I?
May 14, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Edwards is a charlatan.
He had everyone believing he was a Howard Dean populist.
It first, took a look at his senate record, and laughed till I was rolling in the floor.
His senate record was a conservative and play-it-safe as it gets.
Kerry despised Edwards because instead of being a running mate, he only campaigned for himself. He refused to attack, which is what the VP candidate does.
Kerry told the NYT Edwards wanted him to lose so Edwards could run for president again.
He has such a bleeding heart for the poor that after Kerry lost, Edwards spent the last FOUR YEARS working on nothing more than getting himself elected president.
This operator spent an entire YEAR before the Iowa primary, campaigning in Iowa. He figured he'd have it made. People in Iowa thought the guy was a loony. He IS a loony!
And being obsessed with nothing more than himself, he waited to endorse until he could see who he thought would win.
The fact that Clinton's health and economic plan are far to the left of Obama's, and closer to Edwards didn't mean a thing.
Because Edwards does not care about the poor, the candidates or anything. He is a tight vortex of ambition.
Finally, and only recently, he ran down to Jimmy Carter's housing for the poor to "help out" ie give himself some creds.
At least the poor are finally getting a little something out of this shyster!
May 14, 2008 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't help but notice that you only said this after he disagreed w/ you.
May 14, 2008 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now we know who Obama's running-mate will be. Another backroom deal. Bidness, as usual.
May 14, 2008 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Doubtful, 2 Senators on the same ticket? I would expect a Governor, someone with executive experience, and someone who can deliver a state that Obama can't win, that's not Edwards...
May 15, 2008 8:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
There's not a chance in hell that we'll see an Obama-Edwards ticket in November.
Just another sore-loser Clintonian know-nothing knee-jerk reaction here.
Move along!
May 15, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is actually a reply to "present"
Edwards came in second in the Iowa primaries. I don't think that demonstrates your first lame assertion, on the contrary, it disproves it entirely. The rest of your assertions are equally if not more lame.
Sour grapes?
May 15, 2008 8:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
I kept waiting for Edwards to say, "Mr. Obama, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!"
Okay, well it would have been funny to me.
Anyway, the real impact of this endorsement is the confirmation in the minds of Edwards voters who were on the fence of who they should go with. Edwards' pledged delegates should all fall in line behind Obama now, and that's big. This is MORE than enough to negate the impact of the West Virginia defeat, and it's going to be more than enough to narrow the gap in Kentucky (although I doubt it will be overcome).
All in all, THIS
May 14, 2008 7:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
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EXCELLENT
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NEWS
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FOR
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HILLARY!!!
May 14, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary!!!!!
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EXCELLENT
May 14, 2008 7:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hold on. I'll get the pom poms. Pathetic.
May 15, 2008 8:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
was a bit awkward to bring up the jetski thing. Alludes to all the backroom machinations to bring Edwards there.
May 14, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Um. Humor.
Get some.
May 14, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude. It was a Colbert joke.
http://www.yourcelebritystuff.com/politics/john-edwards-wants-a-jet-ski-and-would-also-like-to-be-a-spy/
May 14, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
It alludes to The Daily Show on Comedy Central . . .
May 14, 2008 10:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
D'oh! I forgot!
I knew I'd seen that somewhere but could not remember where. Time seems to have shrunk or elongated. Not sure which. Thanks for the reminder, y'all!
May 15, 2008 12:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
The broadcast networks refused to fall for the Obama campaign's play to pre-empt Clinton's W.Va. victory party. Neither CBS nor NBC carried any of the Obama-Edwards appearance, although both showed extensive excerpts of their interviews with Clinton. ABC cut away from the Michigan rally seconds after Obama introduced Edwards. If Obama hoped for a big coup this evening, he didn't get it. Now let's see if Elizabeth shows up at a Clinton event.
May 14, 2008 7:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Would you like a comfortable chair while you wait? It's going to be awhile....
May 14, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, but who gets the ratings?!
CNN carried Edwards' comments. Fox did too.
May 14, 2008 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
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May 14, 2008 7:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Local TV ran Edawards and Obama live here in west Michigan.
A packed stadium, crowds outside, two rocking voices for CHANGE!
It just ended. I'm pumped.
May 14, 2008 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
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May 14, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Warning.
Mortally wounded Clintonistas can be hazardous to your health
Contact your local animal control
May 14, 2008 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Responding to myself, I held my reaction to Edwards' endorsement of Obama to let my passions cool overnight, however, as a former Edwards fan, I am very disappointed that he didn't remain neutral and let the process play out. He should have allowed Clinton to continue making her argument for only an additional 3 weeks. There was no downside risk to him in this at all. Especially considering that we are in the very late stages of the primary season, should Obama falter for any reason between now and the Denver convention, Edwards' endorsement will be seen as a failure of judgment, constricting whatever options he had open to help the party seniors to heal the divisions and achieve unity.
Therefore, I find myself reconsidering his late-emerging populism, and now see his sudden and unexpected endorsement move as purely serving his personal ambitions.
May 15, 2008 6:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think he did it precisely to take the air out of Hillary's win. As an Edward's supporter, myself, I was surprised that he did this, but I am hoping he got some concessions on policy, or perhaps an offer to be AG. If anyone can clean up the DoJ, it would be Edwards.
The fact that this announcement was timed like this makes me hope that Obama made some populist leaning concessions on policy, or the adoption of some of Edwards well thought out consumer oriented policies. That would rock, totally.
It's all good.
May 15, 2008 8:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wait, so the media is biased for Obama or against him? What is it this week? I just can't keep up with you guys any more.
May 16, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary, it's time.
May 14, 2008 7:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's waaay past time for her to go
May 14, 2008 8:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
So uh, what happens with Edwards' pledged delegates now?
May 14, 2008 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
In case anyone hasn't noticed, one of TPM's esteemed trolls, fogu2, has been placing "."s after pro-Obama statements in other threads. As we all know, a "." signifies remembrance and respect of a recent death - the internet equivalent of "RIP".
So, to follow in the footsteps of fogu2, I suggest we all pay our respects to the most recent death in our Democratic Party, the death of Hillary Clinton's campaign.
May 14, 2008 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
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huh??
oh brother!!
dowhat??
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May 15, 2008 9:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, Edwards is using fuzzy math like someone else I remember.
And now he's singing a new tune:
It's no longer 2 Americas. Now its 1 America.
Hahahaha.
What will it be in November? MAybe 3 Americas?
Or maybe if Obama were ever to get control 0 Americas because he clearly doesn't have a clue as to how to run a country. A part time teacher and community organizer to be our next Pres.?
uhhh....
I don't think so.
May 14, 2008 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
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May 14, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here, Rae K, it's not so hard. I'm willing to help you!
Repeat after me:
President Obama.
There, don't you feel better now?
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May 14, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
From your comments and the way you write, you should apologize to all the 'teachers' in your past... and that's a professor of constitutional law.
Perhaps you would prefer a corporate executive like Bush? Or perhaps an uber-leader executive/congressman/SecDef like Cheney? Or are you just wedded to candidates that haven't lived a life with the plebs in the past three decades?
May 14, 2008 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
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May 14, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
No fuzzy math, RaeK... he's saying Obama can unite America and win the election.
And now, in the spirit of unity, I'm going to share with everyone some of your most eggregious quotes on TPM:
"ugly little fucker..."
"WOOPED OBAMA'S SKINNY ASS"
"you nimnuts"
"If Hillary isn't the nominee, VOTE McCain!"
"MCCAIN WILL CREAM YOU!!!!!!!!"
Hillary supporters, let this be a lesson... don't let yourself become something you hate.
Maybe it's just me, but somewhere along the line, Senator Clinton's campaign seems to have stopped functioning as an actual candidacy, sharing the same party and most of the same issues as Senator Obama's... and now it increasingly serves as a badge of pain, pride, entitlement, and self-victimization, frozen in time like a confederate flag on the back of a busted up pick-up truck.
There are lots of us out here who initially supported Gore, Edwards, Kucinich, etc., but we've moved on, to the point that most of us are pretty content with things as they stand. We want to concentrate on beating McCain.
You need to decide where *YOU* stand. Do you support the issues that Hillary Clinton does, and support her when she says that it would be foolish not to back the Democratic nominee... or do you support RaeK, John McCain, an end to Roe v. Wade, more war in Iraq, a possible war in Iran, and an end to any hope for affordable health insurance?
I mean, if you want that, register as a Republican, but if you don't, do what Hillary suggests and support the Democratic nominee.
Ask any of us who have already moved on from our candidate of choice... There is, in fact, life after the Democratic primaries, even if your candidate loses.
May 14, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, Mark - wonderful response. I was originally an Edwards supporter and I was disappointed when he dropped out, but I was able to look at the other candidates and select the one that I thought best represented my values and would do the most for this country. So I selected Obama. I truly believe that at least some Hillary supporters have been with her from the beginning and are personally and emotionally invested in her success or failure - if she fails, they fail. It is not about what's best for the country; it's about getting Hillary into the White House. Which is why at least some of them won't vote for Obama in the fall and will vote against their interests. Sad, really.
May 14, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wonderful response, markkraft. It gets so tiring to read Rae's broken record childish stuff.
May 14, 2008 8:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, this response gets a big "RECOMMENDED" from me. Thanks, Mark
May 15, 2008 1:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Mark, you have put it so succintly clear, it would be an injustice if I were to try to put it differently.Thank you for your well-thought out response.I tip my hat in your direction...
May 15, 2008 6:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
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May 14, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who is "bitter" now?!?!?
May 14, 2008 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama: You're not the chosen one, RaeK. It was Dean who was chosen. You see, he found me and told me about your girl Hillary. You're just a fool.
RaeK Sunday: Why are you talking about Dean? Don't say this to me.
Obama: I did what your sister Hillary couldn't. I broke you and I beat you. It was Dean who told me about you. He's the prophet. He's the smart one. He knew what was there and he found me to take it out of the ground in all 50 states, and you know what the funny thing is? Listen... listen... listen... we put him in the DNC chair, votes in hand, just like that. He has his the party now. A prosperous little business. Three special election down-ticket races producing so far. Five delegates a day.
[RaeK Sunday cries]
Obama: Stop crying, you sniveling ass! Stop your nonsense. You're just the afterbirth, RaeK.
RaeK Sunday: No...
Obama: You slithered out of your Billary's filth.
RaeK Sunday: No.
Obama: They should have put you in a glass jar on a mantlepiece. Where were you when Dean was suckling at your party's base? Where were you? Who was nursing you, poor RaeK- one of Carvilles's sows? This land has been had. Nothing you can do about it. It's gone. It's had. You lose.
RaeK Sunday: If you just take the popular vote in Michigan, Barack...
Obama: Drainage! Drainage, RaeK, you boy. Drained dry. I'm so sorry. Here, if you have a milkshake, and I have a milkshake, and I have a straw. There it is, that's a straw, you see? You watching?. And my straw reaches acroooooooss the room, and starts to drink your milkshake... I... drink... your... milkshake!
[sucking sound]
Obama: I drink it up!
RaeK Sunday: Don't bully me, Barack!
[Obama roars and throws RaeK across the room]
Obama: Did you think your song and dance and your superstition would help you, RaeK? I am the Third Revolution! I am who the party has chosen!
May 14, 2008 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
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May 14, 2008 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
OMG, Pat Buchannon is going off on Chris Matthews right now on MSNBC.
May 14, 2008 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please tell me someone is getting this on YouTube. I'm at work (barely working obviously) and can't watch.
May 14, 2008 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Check this website - Jed is going to get the segment up on YouTube as soon as he can...
http://www.obamaiswinning.com/
May 14, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the link to the YouTube of Pat B's meltdown:
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/05/pat-buchanans-r.html
Enjoy!
May 14, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks Carol!
May 14, 2008 9:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jed is rallying the troops over at DailyKos to write letters & emails to NBC demanding Buchanan's termination. Probably won't do any good but it can't hurt.
May 14, 2008 9:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice link--Chris Mathews and Andrea Mitchell handled that very well.
May 14, 2008 10:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pat Buchanan needs to be fired wow. What a total nutjob
May 14, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pat Buchanan is on very thin ice...wow
May 14, 2008 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why do MSNBC host keep inviting bigot Pat Buchanan.
May 14, 2008 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because he makes the right wing look bad.
May 14, 2008 10:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pat's made motive is to keep the racial divide alive. Today's endorsement is a big blow to the Republican suppression.
May 14, 2008 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pat's main motive is to keep the racial divide alive.
May 14, 2008 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
The other way kinda makes sense too. ;)
Don't worry, we gotcha.
May 14, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. He's a racist SOB!! How embarassing for MSNBC!
May 14, 2008 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pat Buchanan is piss the pundits are calling white folk in WV uneducated, poor and racist. He totally went overboard.
May 14, 2008 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
it wasnt the pundits. the pundits were discussing the exit polling where more than 50% of the voters there said race played a factor. Pat totally overreacted.
May 14, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Present":
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May 14, 2008 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Holy shit - I have never seen Chris Matthews (and even Andrea Mitchell) so riled up - Pat Buchanan really needs to go. He is such a blatant racist and bigot - why has he not been fired from MSNBC? Wow - I bet Dan Abrams (or whoever is running things over there) is going to pull Buchanan right off that set and tear him a new one. He's disgusting - did you see that he wouldn't even answer Matthews' question about wanting to see a world where race doesn't matter? What a Grade-A asshole!
May 14, 2008 7:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah Carol, I was watching MSNBC during that whole "exchange" between Chris and Pat. I couldn't believe how angry Pat was defending the dignity of uneducated white voter's. Hell, he sounded more populist than John Edwards ;-)
May 14, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
In Pat Buchanan's own words:
He encouraged Nixon not to visit the widow of MLK, because it would:
"outrage many, many people who believe Dr. King was a fraud and a demagogue and perhaps worse.... Others consider him the Devil incarnate. Dr. King is one of the most divisive men in contemporary history."
"There is a legitimate grievance in my view of white working-class people that every time, on every issue, that the black militants loud-mouth it, we come up with more money.... If we can give 50 Phantoms to the Jews, and a multi-billion dollar welfare program for the blacks...why not help the Catholics save their collapsing school system."
On former Grand Wizard David Duke:
"Take a hard look at Duke's portfolio of winning issues and expropriate those not in conflict with GOP principles, [such as] reverse discrimination against white folks."
Trying to justify apartheid in South Africa, he denounced the notion that...
"white rule of a black majority is inherently wrong. Where did we get that idea? The Founding Fathers did not believe this."
On Hitler:
"an individual of great courage...Hitler's success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path."
On Jews being gassed to death from diesel exhaust fumes at Treblinka:
"Diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide to kill anybody."
Ugly, hateful man.
May 14, 2008 7:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah Carol...That was funny to me....They were laughing at Pat...made me laugh...
May 14, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pat...Buchannon...MSNBC...CANT...WATCH...
[Switch to CNN]
Lou Dobs....FENCE...BORDER
[head explodes]
May 14, 2008 7:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL (ducks behind plastic sheeting stolen from Gallagher show).
May 14, 2008 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for this.
We flipped to just about every channel but Nickelodeon trying to find some coverage of this without crazy screaming people and no luck.
May 14, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why switch to Nick when you can get slimed by the MSM?
May 14, 2008 8:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pat Buchanan is just a bit old fashioned. He's from another time zone is all.
May 14, 2008 7:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
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May 14, 2008 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
The 50s
May 14, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
The 1850's
May 14, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
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(*sniff* ... looks so peaceful ... almost lifelike...)
May 14, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL
May 14, 2008 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
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May 14, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah = pre-1864.
Buchanan has always been a White Supremacist and surely the network knew that when they hired him, since he's written books on it and everything.
It's no damn secret.
May 14, 2008 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
A different time zone...lol
Yuupp......so is Rev Wright.....Care to parse?
May 14, 2008 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kaboom.
Good one.
May 14, 2008 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
lol..you know they dont like to talk about the double standards...
May 14, 2008 9:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
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May 14, 2008 10:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Woah! Did you all see that Buchanan meltdown!! Jesus, that was crazy.
He accidentally said Obama belongs to Philly and Hillary belongs to "us".
It was insane. Even by Pat standards
May 14, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
MSNBC's resident racist! He'll be on Morning Joe in the morning, no doubt. Shameful.
May 14, 2008 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the exact quote:
blockquote>What were the African-American community in Philadelphia that gave him 90% voting on if not the fact that Barack Obama was one of them. West Virginia, Hillary, was one of us. That's the same thing. But West Virginia gets trashed, and Philadelphia is wonderful.
Wonderful, huh?
May 14, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was no accident
May 14, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's some of Pat's more "reasoned" statements about African Americans:
If you want to read the whole horror show, here's the link:
http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=969
His other blog posts are not much better, but this was pretty startling. I can't imagine why MSNBC would want to have a blatant racist on. I would venture to say that after tonite's meltdown his days are numbered (I hope so, anyway).
May 14, 2008 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't know if it will help, but I just voiced my outrage at hardball@msnbc.com
May 14, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
good call
May 14, 2008 7:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I did that after I originally read this screed back in March, but I'll be more than happy to send another e-mail. I think after this meltdown he might be history (one can hope, anyway). Surely there must be another conservative around (Mike Huckabee, maybe) who would be a LOT less blatantly racist and bigoted.
May 14, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
How in the fuck is that klansman still on television? As much as I respect Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow, the fact that they enable a man that they know in their heart of hearts to be a fucking racist kind of pisses me off. But I agree with Tavis Smiley when he called Buchanon a "racial arsonist" - http://youtube.com/watch?v=NPdLi2n5Hm0 They really have to fire that motherfucker.
May 14, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Totally agree. He really needs to go - MSNBC needs to be flooded with e-mails and calls about this. Perhaps AmericaBlog will lead the charge - John Aravosis is really good at doing that. I'm gonna head on over there and see what's up and make the suggestion.
May 14, 2008 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Buchanan is unhinged.
Of course, this is the same divisive horsecrap he's been spewing since he was Tricky Dick Nixon's chief blow-boy.
The architect of Nixon's "Southern Strategy."
Hopefully, we are seeing the demise of this type of racist divisiveness.
May 14, 2008 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Moreover, the disingenuity of Buchanan trying to set up KENTUCKY as the "litmus test," not even mentioning Oregon is such manufactured crap that only a Rush Windbag would appreciate it.
The asshole was trying to pump up Hillary last night as "energized," and kept up his utter bullshit that "Obama was listless and uninspired" at a freakin' townhall meeting in Cape Girardeau, MO.
May 14, 2008 8:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's gonna be one miserable son of a bitch when a black man is sworn in as President. Think we'll see him on the tubez once Obama is elected? Maybe on Fox... ;)
May 14, 2008 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
that makes wish I had cable, though I really don't. That show you linked, that was aome frank and good discussion, if not a little awkward at times (which is the surest sign that these conversations need to happen more often and with everyone).
May 14, 2008 8:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm disgusted by Pat Buchanan, too, but take it easy on Keith and Rachel, would you? I may be wrong, but I don't think I ever see Pat on Keith's show. I'm thinking he's not welcome there. (Can anyone confirm or refute that?)
And Rachel, she's my hero. She counters the voices of the likes of Pat Buchanan, Joe Scarborough, et al. with a combination of clear thinking, solid information, and wicked humor better than anyone else on MSNBC.
Watch Rachel and Keli Goff give it back to Pat in another of his racist hall of fame moments on MSNBC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o45G2actM8I&feature=related
May 15, 2008 1:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
See I have to believe that MSNBC knew this about Buchanan when he was hired. It's never been a secret that he is a racist - he's written books about how the white race is dying out and it's a damned emergency! Why that should be is kind of beyond me, since I hardly think we're so grand and all. I'm kind of tired of us, frankly.
We seem to get ourselves in charge of shit and just fuck it all up.
Anyway - it has always been outrageous that Buchanan has a public forum to spout his horrible shit from. He shouldn't be allowed in polite society, for all love.
May 14, 2008 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's amazing that Buchannan and his ilk are trying to weaken affirmative action...If they believe they will be the minority of the future.
May 14, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
If there were ever a case made for right to choose law, Buchannan, Oreilly and Hannity would be prime examples, of why a womans right to chose is right.
May 14, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am still thrown for a loop after that Pat and Chris Matthews exchange.
May 14, 2008 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rewarding the loser after getting crushed is not democracy.
It is total bs like this so called election.
Those idiots cheering on Obama for not letting their votes count are pathetic.
What is wrong with the American people?
May 14, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
So now it's the American People's fault that Hillary lost?
May 14, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Honestly - I think Gotalife would agree - the fact that Hillary has not won proves on thing - America is a crap country. I think I speak for the both of us when I say that we won't live or post in a country where Hillary isn't the nominee. Right Gotalife?
PS - GL: Were Lieberman's guys supposed to pay us double time for working Sunday?
PPS: Total crap cool aid!
May 14, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL. We all love you gotalifefan. Your immediate (you stalker !) smackdowns of gotalife are the best and priceless (though I doubt he gets them at all).
Thanks for taking the trouble on our behalf.
May 14, 2008 11:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think gotalife's sentiment can best be expressed thusly:
"God damn America for not electing Hillary!!"
May 15, 2008 2:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
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May 14, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Rewarding the loser after getting crushed is not democracy."
Are you still stuck on one state, little man?! Because there have been lots of crushing contests in this election, and Obama has been on the winning side of most of them... which is a big part of why he has a clear electoral vote lead.
And since when does John Edwards not have the right to back his candidate of choice? That *IS* democracy!
"Those idiots cheering on Obama for not letting their votes count are pathetic."
Barack Obama most certainly wants the votes of those enthusiastic Obama supporters that gathered today in Michigan to count... whereas Hillary Clinton wants to disenfranchise ALL of them.
What is wrong with you? Are you pulling a RaeK too?
Democrats who believe in the issues we all stand for will follow Hillary's advice and won't sign on to join your little deadenders club... even if Rush Limbaugh put you up to it.
May 14, 2008 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
What votes would that be... Michigan?
May 14, 2008 9:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg Sargent, you sound depressed in your last 3 posts.
After all of your pro-Hillary bias this primary, its understandable that you are depressed at this stage of Hillary's candidacy.
Calling Edward's endorsement "shrewd" and imply that he is getting something in return, is just being a sore loser though.
No one likes sore losers.
May 14, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
But John Edwards *IS* getting something important.
He's getting a Democratic candidate he trusts and can believe in.
May 14, 2008 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Change is in the air. You can feel it and see it and taste it and breathe it.
May 14, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly why Hillary will not be offered a VP slot on the Obama ticket, nor will she be bailed out of her $20 million debt.
May 14, 2008 7:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nor should she be
May 14, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
What she needs to do to get back her money is write another book... perhaps one advising people how to fail, even when you have all the obvious advantages.
There are a *LOT* of hard-earned lessons there that would benefit people, businesses, organizations, etc., if only she would learn from them and share them with others.
May 14, 2008 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
SNAP!!
Talk about Aikido. Very slick!
May 14, 2008 10:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aikido indeed. Well done, Lestatdelc.
May 14, 2008 11:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks.
May 15, 2008 12:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Little notice is being paid to "It's-About-Time Edwards" also announcing today his endorsement of Childers for yesterday's Mississippi race.
May 14, 2008 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Enough of Hillary's dramas
They only seems endless.
May 14, 2008 8:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Word
I'm smooth worn out on drama.
May 14, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ain't this sumpin?
May 14, 2008 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, it is sumpin'.
May 14, 2008 8:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bitter HRC Trolls: Say what?
Say "G'night," Hillary.
The party's O-V-E-R!!!!
May 14, 2008 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please leave HRC, you have amply proved why you are not fit to lead. We cant have 4 more years of "bubba beer drankin" thinking. There is a bigger world outside of the much larger and diverse country that is our USA. We cant compete and will continue to misunderstand that world as long as we treat the proud ignorance of the Jethros among us. The dumbass redneck vote needs to STFU, no matter how much the media likes to hand them a mike, we cant have 4 more years of their pathetic, stupid ignorance. They do not need to be courted or wooed. Help your country and say NO to ignorant flag wavers and their enablers. Asking me to accept their views is asking me to accept a slightly shit-on America. No Thanks. No Longer.
May 14, 2008 8:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
What say the majority of former democratic presidential primary foes? I cannot think of one who has endorsed Hillary Clinton. Not one! And, if I am not mistaken, 2 out of 3 senate collegues are endorsing Barack Obama. What do you suppose the ratio is of those declared super delegates that have changed their endorsement from one candidate to another? I think Obama leads that 5:1. How unflattering...she can't get no respect from those who know her best.
May 14, 2008 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, did I pick the wrong three and a half hours to be away from any newsmedia whatsoever!
May 14, 2008 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOLOLOL! Ya snooze, ya lose!! ;)
May 14, 2008 8:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
How unflattering...she can't get no respect from those who know her best.
"As always, victory finds a hundred fathers but defeat is an orphan." - Count Galeazzo Ciano
May 14, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's wonderful.
I always liked David Byrne, too:
and when your hands get dirty
no one knows you at all,
ain't got no window to slip out of-
lights out, nobody home...
May 14, 2008 8:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good to see Carol was on top of that Pat Buchanon stuff...Ive been in the wrong thread.....Dam.
May 14, 2008 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fyi,Keith has a special comment tonight everyone
May 14, 2008 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great minds think alike, my friend! ;)
May 14, 2008 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Im sad I missed the fireworks here arguing with some troll...what a waste of time, anyhow...your good.
May 14, 2008 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I saw that stuff going on with you and Loki(?) on the other thread. What a jerk he/she is! I'm glad you finally made it in here! ;)
May 14, 2008 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks...:)
May 14, 2008 9:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's totally ripping Bush for his self-proclaimed great sacrifice of giving up golf when the Iraq war started. Then Keith tell how this is a lie; he played golf after the war started.
I love it when KO obliterates Bush!
May 14, 2008 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've watched every one of Keith's special comments and I think this was his most impassioned one - he sounded at one point like his voice was cracking. He really was pissed (as was I when I read that goddamned interview - imagine Bush thinking that giving up golf was any kind of sacrifice with what he's put the country - countries - through. The man is absolutely repulsive!) Good for you, Keith!
May 14, 2008 9:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
He said they died for nothing though. That's hard to hear.
May 14, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
But absolutely correct.
May 14, 2008 10:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yikes, I must say that Keith is on fire tonite with his Special Comment about Bush's "sacrifice" in giving up golf because of the Iraq War. He is really heated - way to go, Keith!! Speak truth!
May 14, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Holy Cow! KO was on fire! Here's a link to his rant tonight:
Special Comment
May 14, 2008 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hmmm, linky no worky. Just cut-n-paste this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/24635229#24635229
May 14, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
RE: Buchanan: he's on MSNBC BECAUSE he's a bigot. "Controversial" people = ratings, or at least that's what the cable nets believe.
Seriously, how do you think Glenn Beck (blech!)got his own show? The man who unenviably competes with Douglas Feith for the title of "world's stupidest man"? Remember Michael "Savage" Weiner? And we're not even scraping the surface...Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, we could go on and on. They put these people on BECAUSE they're nuts, NOT because they say anything that is true or anything that makes any sense whatsoever.
Because "news" needs to be entertaining, dontchaknow. And in modern America, watching nuts and people behaving badly, whether it be on cable "news" or "reality" TV, is what "entertainment" has become. It's all porn, it's all about watching and hearing people degrade themselves or other people. Americans these days are all a bunch of porn freaks.
Bread and circuses.
May 14, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep - that's kind of what I have been trying to say - I know they knew exactly what they were getting, so the only conclusion you can draw is they wanted what they were getting in Buchanan.
May 14, 2008 9:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's a bastard Tena....whoops the Clinton hype police are going to get me....We have to be pure like Jesus...lol
May 14, 2008 9:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's really disgusting - the American press was handed the most absolute freedom any press ever had - ever. And this is what they did with it. It is so shameful.
The local news anymore is nothing more than Scare the Shit Out of Parents and the Elderly and Hypochondriacs + the latest in plastic surgery and diets + Overly Dramatic Weather and the sports, the only honest 5 minutes left in local news.
National is a bigger circus by far - this culture tipped right over into a Roccocco decadence. I hope it survives - and I actually dio have some hope about that, lately. Signs are good.
May 14, 2008 9:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
If I had a nickle for everytime Im caught commenting to my less politicaly inclined friends that what they see on t.v. news is not news, it's entertainment I'd be rich JennofArk.....your so right..lol..
May 14, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg Sargent is a worthless Hillary shrill. How does he remain employed?
May 14, 2008 9:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Edwards for Attorney General.
May 14, 2008 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm okay with that - it seems to fit.
May 14, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can definitely get behind Edwards for AG - I think he'd be great.
May 14, 2008 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
He would be far better as United States Secretary of Health and Human Services. I don't want anyone who voted for the Patriot Act as AG.
May 14, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Weeellll - that's a point.
May 14, 2008 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
ouch. another aikiod moment.
Lestatdelc, you are on fire today.
May 14, 2008 11:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
aikod moment?
May 15, 2008 12:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
ok. you got me. but you know what I meant, right ?
May 15, 2008 12:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
LOL, not until I scrolled up and say the earlier reply about aikido.
;-)
May 15, 2008 1:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ugh.. SAW... not say
May 15, 2008 1:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. Patrick Fitgerald for AG!!
May 15, 2008 2:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know whether he's temperamentally suited for it, but what I'd like to see is Edwards on the Supreme Court. After all, if he's AG, that would probably end in 8 years (when Obama leaves office). A SC appointment would last decades.
May 14, 2008 11:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's young, principled. Good guy to have on the court to counterbalance Roberts for decades. I like the idea.
May 15, 2008 12:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Personally I like Secretary of Labor.
May 15, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
For Edwards, that is.
May 16, 2008 12:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree.
Corporate's worst nightmare.
Need more Fed. prisons.
May 14, 2008 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Gotalife would agree with me that we could start by locking up ALL the people who disagree with Hillary.
May 14, 2008 10:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
gotalifefan. you have got your own stalker now. For every smackdown from here on, you will get a "goal" from me.
May 14, 2008 11:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Someone PLEASE ...
... tell BILLARY Clinton to STOP agonizing us with her NONSENSICAL campaign!
May 14, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope Hillary never sees her $20million.She knows right well that she can't win, but keeps suckering her fans just to get her money back-- and that is despicable--which is the essence of who she is. I can hear Bill urging her on. I'd be really disapointed if Barack agrees to give money to her--hey, that's my money--WTF!!!!
May 14, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
He has already stated that he will NOT be doing that. If he agrees to help, it will be in the form of participating in joint fundraising efforts specifically towards paying off her debts.
May 15, 2008 7:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Edwards does not have the right experience to be Attorney General. Give him the Labor Cabinet post.
We need a proven prosecutor in the Attorney General's Office. Some one like Patrick Fitzgerald.
May 14, 2008 9:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
OOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo - baby!
I love Patrick Fitzgerald - he's perfect. He's married to the law.
May 14, 2008 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fitz would have these crooks shaking in their boots.
May 14, 2008 9:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Labor would be a good one, so would Secretary of Health and Human Services.
May 14, 2008 9:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
The more I think about it.. Fitzgerald would be ideal. He would make it a bi-partisian cabinet (and not a bread-crumb position)
May 14, 2008 9:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thats true. We are going to need someone that really cares about what that job stands for...
May 14, 2008 9:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
After thinking about it I agree with you completely - Fitzgerald for AG and Edwards for Secretary of HHS. I think Fitzgerald would be an amazing AG, and Elizabeth Edwards could be on the Health Care Task Force. Then she and John (and Congress) can finally get this goddamned nightmare of a health care system straightened out!!
May 14, 2008 9:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, Im with everything everyone has said on that. My anger with Edwards is subsiding...I hate to admit it, but gotta be real. That being said, he reminded me after the first 5 minutes of him speaking why he was my original candidate of choice. Infact to go further...I want him as VP too, but I just know we need a Woman and contrary to what others say, and a decent conservative or liberal conservative somewhere....Dear god I hope it isnt Hillary(I dont think that breaks my hillary pledge), but if it is, what can I do...its good to be finaly talking about these issues ....
May 14, 2008 10:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
To go a step further... Fitzpatrick as AG cleaning house, John Edwards as Sec. HHS, working on healthcare for the administration and Elizabeth as part of the task-force working with and through Hillary to be the vehicle in the Senate (and Congress) to get UHC legislation crafted and passed.
That plays to everyone's actual strengths and gets everyone basically on the same page/team.
May 15, 2008 12:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
I like this plan.
Still not seeing a VP Candidate that I love, though.
May 15, 2008 7:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
I like it.
Edwards could work on alleviating poverty in HHS, too.!
Great plan!
Who do I write to?
May 15, 2008 9:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
To go a step further... Fitzpatrick as AG cleaning house, John Edwards as Sec. HHS, working on healthcare for the administration and Elizabeth as part of the task-force working with and through Hillary to be the vehicle in the Senate (and Congress) to get UHC legislation crafted and passed.
That plays to everyone's actual strengths and gets everyone basically on the same page/team.
May 15, 2008 12:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Shit... sorry for the double post. Got an error message from TPM the first time (again... TPM get a fucking real commenting system).
May 15, 2008 12:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Tell me about it. There are so many bugs -- I've been trying to update my profile for hours and keep getting error messages.
TPM, you're great, but your comment system is the worst I've ever used!
May 15, 2008 2:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
woooooooooh shit....I had the it on the DVR....I just saw keith!.......What a a Mother f'n Patriot!!!
In the proverbial hood, he is what we call a gangster. For what he said, not any other reason that his ditractors will tell you.
Nufff Said. Love that guy.
May 14, 2008 9:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, Keith is one of the good ones! This was his most impassioned and (in my opinion) emotional Special Comment to date. He's wonderful.
May 14, 2008 9:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
OT: Good sky pixie... Craig Crawford is trying his best to usurp Doug Feith's title as the stupidest fucker on the planet. Crawford is as dumb as a bag of bricks and sounds like Don Knotts on a Vick's 44 binge as he shills for Hillary's talking point after Hillary talking point then finishing up with claiming the mailer excoriating Davis over the Nathan Bedford Forrest statue mailer was a lie (it wasn't).
May 14, 2008 9:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Crawford used to be pretty reasonable, but for some reason he seems to have invested everything in Hillary winning and he gets frantic when he's faced with the reality of the situation.
May 14, 2008 9:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's been dropping on the dumbness quotient for a while and now appears to be hitting bottom.
Every time I see him, he looks worse than before.
May 15, 2008 12:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ding! Ding! Ding! Fight stopped in the 14th round. Obama wins by TKO!
I'm fine with Edwards playing referee in this way.
May 14, 2008 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was for a worthy cause . . . albeit one with no signal.
May 14, 2008 9:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
REAL CLEAR POLITICS ELECTION 2008
Democrats Obama-Clinton Spread
Total Delegates 1886 - 1719 Obama + 167
Super Delegates 287 - 273 Obama + 14
Pledged Delegates 1599 - 1446 Obama + 153
May 14, 2008 9:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was actually quite nasty if you think about it, coming the day after a much-needed victory for Hillary. And at a time when by one measure Hillary is ahead in the popular vote it was perhaps, shall I say, hateful for him to say that America has made its choice. It doesn't increase my desire to vote for Obama in the slightest. In fact, if the election were tomorrow I hate to think of what I'd do. Good going, John Edwards. Way to bring Hillary supporters to Obama!
May 14, 2008 10:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama gets the endorsement of a two-time presidential loser.
Hillary gets the endorsement of the only living two-term democratic President.
May 14, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
It wasn't nasty at all. We've listened to Hillary supporters justify the Kitchen Sink strategy as "nothing personal, just how politics is done."
This was perfect timing. It wasn't done out of spite, it was done to turn off the media attention to Hillary right after her one insignificant victory in a campaign that's already on life support. It was a highly effective maneuver. If she could have done it, she would have, in a heartbeat.
This is why Obama should be the nominee. Aside from leading in every category that counts towards a nomination, aside from having all of the super delegate defections moving in his direction, aside from raising vastly more money than Hillary and spending it wisely and not being in debt, and aside from bringing in what are likely several millions of new voters, he is just so much better at running a campaign than Hillary and her people.
She should have closed the deal back on Super Tuesday. That was the plan, wasn't it? Why couldn't she close the deal? Because she's surrounded by incompetents, that's why. Like Bush, she picked people for their loyalty, not for their expertise. It's another sign that he's ready for the Oval Office and she's not.
May 14, 2008 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
So mean and nasty to rain on Hillary's victory parade. What a bunch of bullies.
If Edwards' endorsement hurts your feelings that badly, I don't think you're ready for the general.
May 14, 2008 10:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
"present":
If it was/is so worthless why was Clinton doing summersaults to try and snag it?
Gee, I am sure that was a reeeeaaaaallll hard get.
I am sure my kid would endorse me were I to run as well.
May 15, 2008 12:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
When these so-called Hillary Supporters come on after an Obama victory and gripe and just generally express sour grapes, they simply show themselves to have ZERO legitimacy on any issues whatsoever.
The only one of these that I have seen to express anything that goes beyond troll behavior is Otto.
May 15, 2008 7:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Endorsement?" Is that the new word for "unfaithful?" Everything he is doing now is (a) atonement and (b) trying to get back into the White House with the hope of fixing his legacy that he wasted because of his behavior that lead to(a).
May 15, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are right, Obama should have cleared it with Clinton's communications and scheduling team first.. you know... to make sure it worked for them first.
May 15, 2008 12:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
The question now becomes; Will Elizabeth and Hilary make Obama commit to national health insurance for their support. Or did John Edwards effectively extract that concession for his support?
May 14, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think Elizabeth or Hillary can make do anything.
May 14, 2008 10:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, it looks like Hillary can not even lead her own supporters.
Try a look-see on the Hillaryis44 or Taylor Marsh sites. Almost all of those commenters are vowing that, when Obama is the nominee, they will refuse to follow Hillary's leadership on supporting the Democrat. Some have already started a pro-McCain group among themselves.
I think it is fair to say that Hillary Clinton is the one who has fostered a cult. Listening to them, the only person or politician is America who could ever have the right qualities is Hillary Clinton, no other female is worthy, no male is worthy, etc.
It is like reading the expressions of steel-trap closed minds who somehow created a symbol they call Hillary, but the loyalty is to the symbol, not to the actual person of Hillary. So rigidly self-referencing are they that anyone who doesn't agree with them has to be dissed and thrown on a funeral pyre, and they are quite willing to throw Hillary herself there if she endorses Obama......in order to keep their created symbol intact.
For some time now, they express hate for Keith O., Russert, Maddox and any other media folks who would dare to be critical of their 'symbol'. You can imagine how they react to any SD's who endorse Obama. What is really bizarre is that they are reduced to following and sharing links to O'Reilly, Hannity, Hume, Buchanan, and Rush Limbaugh, for God's sake!
May 14, 2008 11:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, you're describing Hillary's own narcissism to a T. It's like children taking after their parents.
However, what you are seeing expressed on those sites is only the most extreme of this type. They don't represent the majority of the public who voted for Hillary in the primary. I believe that one of the past surveys found that somewhere around 15% said that they'd vote for McCain if Hillary loses, and that's when she still seemed like she stood a chance. I think in the coming weeks, the polls will show solid support for Obama in the Party. But, there needs to be a good show of the Leaders of this Party coming together behind him. And Hillary will have to fall in line - and her support will have to more than tepid.
May 15, 2008 7:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
No they wont.....We will once he has a chance to take office. His message is he will listen to the people, we along with Elizabeth and Hillary. If he doesnt, then we hold him accountable.
May 14, 2008 10:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
While healthcare remains a critical issue that this and the next President needs to address, perhaps a healthcare advocate in one of the Houses of Legistlative branch could submit a plan to address the situation.
Perhaps someone seeking a true leadership role in the Senate . . .
May 14, 2008 10:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thats true. Also someone thats already a member of the branch can submit a plan as well.
May 14, 2008 11:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Edwards, I hear an Ambulence....go chase it.
May 14, 2008 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
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May 14, 2008 10:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bitter, racist Troll from the armpit of Ohio.
May 14, 2008 11:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
He can get in line behind the dozens of other lawyers-turned-politicians in Congress, Dem and GOP alike. What's your point?
May 15, 2008 12:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
So why was Hillary trying so desperately to get the endorsement of an "ambulance chaser" for months now?
May 15, 2008 12:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
From "Head of State"
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/05/change-that-you-deserve.html
Wednesday, May 14, 2008
The Change That You Deserve
From the Chicago Tribune:
Black Screen.
Fade into:
Scene of a thin grey haired man standing in a green field. Behind him we can see the sun is rising.
"I got the change I deserved with GOP."
Cut to a small child, in a sun dress, who looks up at him and smiles.
"I was tired, listless. I had lost interest in my usual activities--creating false attacks, acting as if I had been unfairly attacked about issues created out of whole cloth, drawing specious historical parallels, fawning over ideologically bankrupt manufactured father figures. Sure, I sent emails claiming that Obama was a Muslim, but somehow...it had lost the spark, the enjoyment of everyday life."
Cut to a child who rides by on a bicycle, and throws a newspaper on the front porch.
"That's when I found GOP."
Cut to man rowing in a scull across a still river. He turns to the camera, smiles.
"In clinical studies, GOP has been found to increase aggressiveness in the absence of actual provocation in 8 out of 10 users. In most users, the desire to gleefully attack returns in 1 week. Full enthusiasm for invented ideas in two. "
Cut to image of porch swing.
"With GOP, my attention to minor distractions fully returned, until I was again building them into major accusations of flawed character. Once again, my intense focus on pins, buttons, sentences fragments and remote relationships as absolute indications of personal virtue and ability was at its peak. For an entire weekend, I could one again choose the right moment to accuse a candidate of treason without cause--when I was ready, when the time felt right".
Cut to a series of blurred images: long, stringy haired teens in torn jeans and ironic 80's t-shirts lounging by the Washington Monument; picture of John Kerry in a Swift Boat during Vietnam;
Eiffel Tower. Arugula on plate. During these images, rapid voiceover in female voice:
"GOP may cause monosyllabism, inability to consider two differing concepts at the same time, memory loss or inaccurate recall of recently and repeatedly presented intelligence information, focus on size of automobiles or koro, sequential nicknaming, hooting."
Cut back to man standing in field. American flag waving in the distance behind him, below a risen sun. A woman walks up beside him, puts her arm around him, and smiles.
Man:
"So get the change that you deserve. Talk to your Doctor about GOP. Soon, you'll be walking by the homeless on the street again and saying "Let them get a job!"
Or better yet--let them get GOP."
Woman smiles.
Fade.
Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/05/change-that-you-deserve.html
May 14, 2008 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
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May 14, 2008 11:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who let the Trolls out?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who let the Trolls out?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
May 14, 2008 11:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL....;
May 14, 2008 11:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
The supremes are the big issue. We have some in their 80s barely hanging on.
But the Obamabots don't want us in the dem party anymore so I reregistered as undeclared.
I'll vote my conscience.
May 14, 2008 11:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course we want you in the party. What makes you think otherwise?
Hillary and her supporters enjoyed a victory the other night. Why are Obama and his supporters not entitled to enjoy the victory that is an endorsement?
You are totally right that the Supreme Court is a huge issue in this election. I hope you note McCain's pledge in his recent speech to appoint "strict constructionists" to the court. That is a dog whistle meaning judges like Scalia and Thomas. If you like how Thomas treated Anita Hill on the job years ago and how Scalia helped hand the 2000 election to Bush, by all means vote for McCain. We hope your conscience will tell you otherwise.
May 15, 2008 12:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
oh boo f'n hoo, when it was clear my first and second choice were going nowhere, I didn't whine and moan about how "I wasn't wanted by the party."
Grow the hell up, for Christ's sake.
You're not (I assume) 8 years old.
This isn't Christmas.
And while you didn't get the toy you wanted, so what?
Suck it in and move on.
This election is not about the career ambitions of Hillary Clinton, and if you think it is, you need psychiatric help.
May 15, 2008 12:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Barack Obama passed off a reporter today in Michigan, and she seemed less than amused by his name for her.
"Hold on one second there, sweetie," he says.
The reporter signed off: "This sweetie never did get an answer to that question."
Just drink the kool aid sweetie.
May 14, 2008 11:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
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May 14, 2008 11:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
lol, your candidate lost
May 14, 2008 11:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Still so achingly close to coherent english.
May 15, 2008 12:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is a cool operator no doubt, but he's going to have to hold off flirting with sexy white reporters if he doesn't want to get the Harold Ford treatment.
There's plenty of time to drop his pants once he's in the Oval Office.
May 15, 2008 4:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Spoken as only a true Bill Clinton supporter would say it, the voice of experience and approval.
Cheers! ;)
May 15, 2008 7:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
He left a long and sincere heartfelt apology on her answering machine that anyone with a computer can go listen to, before you start assuming things...unless of course your mind is too pre-biased to ever assume something innocent of the other candidate while yours continues to make verbal 'gaffes' which you defend all the time.
May 15, 2008 8:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Way to go Gotalife - Keep shouting the turth and we will be set free from the Cool Aid.
Can I suggest we call this latest Obama disaster "SWEETIEGATE?"
Other suggestions:
"SWEETWATER"
Once again - Gotalife has shown his incredible ability to find the truly important issues that matter the most in this election.
Keep up the good work GL - I am watching your every move and promise to be right behind you - breathing heavily - until you stop posting.
May 15, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know in a way I find this election ironic in a couple of ways. One you constantly hear the pundits talk about Obama and the white versus the black vote, etc.
The thing here is that the demarcated system is working exactly the way it was written in 84 by no other than Harold Ickes of the Clinton campaign. The SD and proportional delegates system was written by Ickes because he was none other than Jessie Jackson’s campaign manager and this system was set because and for racism. So in effect the WV vote actually was /is the result of this rule in the party.
Then you look at the Obama 50 state strategy, I’m not sure if the old metrics applies to this campaign. I find this very Einstein-ian. A woman and a African American.
Go Obama, he will be our next PRESIDENT!!!!!
The times are changing…..for the better!
May 14, 2008 11:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Edwards would make a fine AG. Clark or Webb seem to be much better ticket balancers for the VP slot.
Now would be a good time for Democrats to stop sniping at each other unless you want to live through Bush 2. Ignore the trolls. Let's look to the future.
May 14, 2008 11:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Am I the only one who thinks that Clinton should start taking advice from Pyrrhus of Epirus?
May 15, 2008 12:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Certainly a clear path to victory there.
;-)
May 15, 2008 12:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's a not so little non-secret.
Richardson's, Edwards', and Clinton's endorsements will still not make Obama electable.
The nomination is all but over and so is the general.
We survived 8 years of Bush, we'll survive 4 of McCain.
And then, finally a Democrat will get into the White House.
May 15, 2008 12:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Get thee behind me, Rush.
May 15, 2008 12:16 AM |