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Bush-McCain Fundraiser Scaled Back Due To Lack Of Takers
A planned mega-fundraiser for the GOP, featuring President Bush and John McCain, has now been scaled back in the face of a daunting problem: Too few people actually wanted to buy tickets.
According to the Phoenix Business Journal, fundraiser set for this Tuesday in the city's convention center failed to sell enough tickets, leading to fears that the anti-Bush protesters might end up outnumbering actual attendees.
The new plan is for the Bush-McCain fundraising effort, which will benefit both the McCain campaign and the RNC, to be held in private residences in the Phoenix area away from media coverage.
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Comments (158)
Ha. Hee. Ha ha. HAHAHAHAHA! Couldn't happen to a nicer pair of assholes.
May 24, 2008 12:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Scaling back is going from a full ballroom to maybe a half room. Convention Center to private homes is flopping. McCain isn't even a draw in his own state? Damn.
May 24, 2008 12:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
"But the contours of the electoral map, combined with McCain’s unique strengths and the nature of Obama’s possible vulnerabilities, have led to a cautious and muted optimism that McCain could actually surpass Bush’s 35-electoral-vote victory in 2004. Though they expect he would finish far closer to Obama in the popular vote, the thinking is that he could win by as many 50 electoral votes."
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10585.html
Told ya.
May 24, 2008 12:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
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May 24, 2008 12:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think we all agree with that, Mus!
May 24, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seeing as McCain's your boy, that should make you happy.
May 24, 2008 1:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
This would be relevant if the election was this Tuesday.
May 24, 2008 1:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe not...
take a look at Josh's front page numbers at TPM...
In Ohio, SUSA has Obama beating McCain by 9 points.
In Pennsylvania, SUSA has Obama beating McCain by 8 points.
In New Mexico, SUSA has Obama tied with McCain.
In Virginia, SUSA has Obama beating McCain by 7 points.
Now lets hear some trashtalk about how "this poll" must be wrong...
May 24, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
The reason the Democratic primary is so heated and painfully long is because, in short, it is the general election. No way McCain wins. No way republicans win.
Did you read this post?
May 24, 2008 1:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
exactly — whoever goes the dem nomination will be president.
May 24, 2008 2:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
oops: "gets", not "goes"
May 24, 2008 2:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
King Crimson. Sweet!
May 24, 2008 12:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
GOP Strategists: Republican Presidential Candidate is going to win in November.
Unprecedented in the history of American politics. If Clinton was the nominee, the Republicans would never make such a bold prediction.
May 24, 2008 1:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, they'd be laughing too hard.
May 24, 2008 9:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
I read this earlier. It is a joke. The GOP is clearly delusional. Yes, McCain is better than the other knuckleheads they have managed to amass but he is not exactly a strong candidate. He just happened to float to the top of the cesspool.
Case in point, my father-in-law is about as Republican as they come and he lives in AZ. He refuses to vote for McCain. Not because of any idealogical differences, but because he thinks McCain is an idiot. He can't bring himself to vote for Obama (yet) but he figures he will just stay home. His neighbor is voting for Barr if he gets on the ballot. These are not isolated sentiments. McCain isn't even polling at 50% in his home state.
He is polling close right now because a)he is still enjoying a post nomination bounce b) the dems are still duking it out and beating each other up c)no one has been paying much attention to McCain and d) Obama, the dem nominee (yes) is still a bit of an unknown quantity.
This won't last - this is the high point for McCain. He is going to get a shellacing in Nov - and yes, I would be saying the same thing if Hillary or even Edwards had won the dem nomination. His shellacing will be all the worse because of Obama.
May 24, 2008 2:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
ps. If you think Clinton would be better against McCain - people like my father-in-law are not opposed to Obama but they don't want to vote for a Dem. He wouldn't mind if Obama won but he just doesn't want to make that vote - hence the decision to stay home.
Clinton on the other hand would induce him to go out and vote against her. 'She gets in office over my dead body' is an exact quote.
Not saying there aren't some people who feel the same way about Obama, but to say that Clinton is a better candidate is just wrong. If she was a better candidate, she would have won. That is kind of the definition of being a better candidate.
May 24, 2008 9:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Whistling past the graveyard does not a symphony make...
May 24, 2008 8:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
My interpretation of this is that it is a bit of psychological warfare to rile up all those obsessed with Clinton one more time before the final shoe drops, in the hope that her backers will keep supporting a fight to the convention.
Looks like it worked for at least one of you loonies...
(A hint for you, gotalife, you're being played!)
May 24, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Riiiiiight. From the guys who had THE MATH in 2006. I laughed almost at hard as that Politico story you're peeing your pants about as I did at this post.
And oh yeah, I laughed out loud, long and hard at both.
So what's it gonna be, Gottie, hang around here and predict doom and gloom until November, or man up and help make your worst fears wrong? If we win, you'll have been on the right side of history. If we lose, your "toldjas" will be twice as sweet for not having been part of the problem.
Its really that simple.
May 24, 2008 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dear Goatlife: READ "Republican Strategists say..."
What would you expect them to say? "McCain doesn't has a snowball's chance?"
The Siamese twins, Bush/McCan't, are going to be buried.
May 24, 2008 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Furthermore, Goatlife:
We Baby Boomers have seen it all before.
Barack's Bugs Bunny is going to run circles around your Elmer Fudd. Oops. Already has.
May 24, 2008 9:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Go McCain! Screw Roe v. Wade! Bomb bomb bomb Iran! Enough Welfare moms! $10/gallon gas!
What else is on your platform, idiot?
May 24, 2008 10:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone who thinks there is any hope for McCain is obviously drinking the spiked Cool Aid. For the McCain-Bush marriage to not even be able to draw a crowd in this obviously Republican stronghold where I live shows how badly the Party brand has been decimated by the Bush Administration. Now, along comes the old maverick, John McCain, and he gets comfortable to park his Straight-Talk Express and now is sucking it up to the very person who sponsored the "Black Baby" ad and who continues to muck the Republicans for years to come. Amazing and more so about McCain who obviously sold his soul to the Devil. I wrote in John McCain in 2000 and 2004, but will never vote for him because he has lost his soul. Sad to say, he is no maverick, he is just the usual political hack who will do anyuthing to win. Sad to see. I am giving, working and voting for Barak because he offers redemption for our country after the 8 long years of nightmares caused by the Bush cabal.
May 25, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
See you at Obama's inauguration, dumbass.
May 24, 2008 12:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Steve LaBonne: I'm taking Inauguration day off to attend in DC too. It's going to be amazing. At least a million people. (I actually went to Bush's in Jan. 2001 bc I needed to see the travesty unfold before my own eyes. I couldn't believe it.)
May 24, 2008 2:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is delicious.
May 24, 2008 1:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
I love the part about how they have to retreat into their little spider holes "away from media coverage."
Bring 'Em ON!!
May 24, 2008 1:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's something I've been gnawing on for a few months, and have yet to see any pundit mention it. Democrats have been showing up to vote in the primaries in record numbers, while Republicans have been staying home. It's not even close.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21660914
All of my numbers come from MSNBC, and I assume they are correct. Let's take a few states that typically go red, and see how the primaries went (not including states where on party had a caucus and the other had a primary election, apples to apples):
Georgia:
Obama 700,366 66%
Clinton 328,129 31%
Edwards 17,990 2%
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1.35 millions votes cast by dems
Huckabee 326,069 34%
McCain 303,639 32%
Romney 289,737 30%
Paul 27,978 3% 0
Giuliani 7,039 1%
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940,000 votes cast by reps
Kansas:
Obama 27,172 74%
Clinton 9,462 26%
Edwards 53 0%
Uncommitted 8 0%
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36,600 votes by dems
Huckabee 11,627 60%
McCain 4,587 24
Paul 2,182 11%
Romney 653 3%
Uncommitted 84 0%
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18,000 votes cast by reps
Kentucky:
Clinton 459,124 65% 37
Obama 209,778 30% 14
Uncommitted 18,059 3%
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688,000 votes by dems
McCain 142,826 72% 0
Huckabee 16,344 8% 0
Paul 13,419 7% 0
Uncommitted 10,756 5%
Romney 9,210 5% 0
Giuliani 3,057 2% 0
Keyes 2,046 1%
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Not even close
The pattern goes on an on. Dems having been going to the polls in numbers ranging from 50% to 100% over their republican counterparts! Why doesn't the MSM report this? They love a horse race. If they told everyone it was going to be a blowout, the republicans would blow a gasket and pull out the old liberal-bias standup routine.
I don't think we have anything to worry about. As long as Hillary doesn't destroy the party in the next month, McCain stands almost no chance of winning.
May 24, 2008 1:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
If they reported that, there'd be nothing left to argue about in October.
May 24, 2008 3:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
You got that right!
May 24, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
You do have to be careful in the states you use for your comparisons. If I were doing the analysis, I'd stick to earlier states, since - especially on the Republican side - the argument could be made that McCain's having wrapped it up could have depressed Republican turnout.
However, that's just a quibble about the specific numbers you've got. I totally agree with your larger point and think we're going to be in a good position come November.
May 24, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry with the math. The first tally should read 1.05 million, not 1.35 million. Duh!
May 24, 2008 1:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
*snicker*
THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!!!! FOR MCCAIN!!!!
BUSHMENTUM!!!!
-courtesy of idiotic
May 24, 2008 1:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm pretty sure the media DID report on the large and enthusiastic Democratic turnout in the primaries (when the GOP still had a race going on).
May 24, 2008 11:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
if they're not showing up now, who will show up in november?
(crickets chirping ...)
May 24, 2008 2:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Republicains don't want to come out to vote, how are you gonna stop 'em?
May 24, 2008 5:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Paging K-mart shoppers: Blue Light Special, Aisle 9....Blue Light Special, Aisley 9.
May 24, 2008 2:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
May 24, 2008 2:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hi from one PF fan to another.
Tear down the wall (of ignorance and intolerance).
May 24, 2008 3:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
If you don't eat your meat, how can you have any pudding?
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat
your meat?
May 24, 2008 3:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
I had a good laugh when I read the article. (GOP leaders predict GOP win in November!) Wow - Earthshaking news there!
Then I went over to FiveThirtyEight.com (the most accurate predictor through the primary cycle) and got the straight dope.
Obama and Clinton both beat McCain now in both categories (EV and POP vote). And Obama hasn;t even laid bare McCain's past yet.
2008 is looking to be like 1964 was for Democrats.
Enjoy the ride! :)
May 24, 2008 3:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
is there some kind of "Slaughter Rule" ???
or does mccain have to endure this embarrassment for another 6 months
May 24, 2008 3:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain can't be forced to accept the nomination. By the time of the Republican convention he might 'remember' how old he is and that he's not healthy enough to be president.
I recommend stocking up on popcorn NOW to prepare for the hilarity that would ensue if that happened.
May 24, 2008 4:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sort of like when you're playing ping pong and call the game when the score is 7-0? We used to call that a skunking.
May 24, 2008 9:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
I say McCain was really stupid to let himself get roped into this toxic event with our toxic President.
Now he's got the smell of "loser" on him, and that's Bush's stink after all.
Are there any more of these planned? I'd kindly like to be informed each time one of these is "scaled back" (flops).
May 24, 2008 6:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Translation: "What if they gave a Republican Party, and no one came?"
May 24, 2008 8:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Very clever! Also: If a republican screams in a convention hall, does he make a sound?
May 24, 2008 9:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's their party, they can cry if they want to.
May 24, 2008 8:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
A funny thing in politics: when you're popular in the polls, you've got friends coming out your ears. When you're down in the polls, you're left with the earwax. Who was it that said, if you want a friend in Washington, get a dog?
May 24, 2008 8:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bill Clinton said that.
Maybe if someone got Hillary a puppy this would all be over.
May 24, 2008 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Whoops, Bill Clinton said that quoting Harry S. Truman. Should have counted on my Google-fu and not my crappy memory.
May 24, 2008 9:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dosen't the outgoing president usually do a public meet-n-greet with the incoming president? I'll bet that's gonna be awkward...
May 24, 2008 9:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Awkward is teh shrub's middle name.
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May 24, 2008 9:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Does DLC leaders Al From live there? I wonder if Bush and McCain will meet at Al From's house?
Al From is know to have met with oil executives in Phoenix prior to the war in Iraq, (as reported by The Arizona Republican) to discuse all the crooked reason why Hillary, Bill and Bush want to invade and stay in Iraq.
May 24, 2008 9:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why would they actually say that it's because everyone hates them?
Why wouldn't they say, for example, "cancelled due to scheduling conflicts" or "cancelled due to personal matters" or some such vague thing?
May 24, 2008 9:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, never mind - "scaled back", not "cancelled".
May 24, 2008 9:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
The standard story would be that they're moving from the convention center to private homes so they can spend more time with their families.
May 24, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wouldn't try to extrapolate any primary state numbers for Repubs since McCain wrapped it up. Earlier contests when they were still competing are useful.
The media and pollsters will do their best to prop McCain up and make this appear to be a race because it sells commercials, and newspaper ads. Media moguls are also in bed with Repubs thru friendly regulation so they desperately want to maintain the status quo.
May 24, 2008 9:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nice story and all, but is this really the big story of the weekend, Eric?
Hillary's assassination comment is the 800 pound gorilla in the Blumenthal Points Memo living room, and you clowns think you can serve it tea and crumpets.
Here's hoping Sidney sobers up soon.
May 24, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
I guess you must have missed the post about the thing that you're complaining is missing.
May 24, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, you mean Josh offered up the lengthy editorial comment that this issue demands? You're right, I missed it... must be posted on the same board where Josh addressed his much-publicized subscription to the Daily Blumenthal.
Please pass along the URL. Looking forward to reading the TPM take on this matter. Greg didn't say much other than hastily trying to palm it off as something the Obama camp was making a stink over and little else.
May 24, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
"In a statement, Kennedy Jr. said: "It is clear from the context that Hillary was invoking a familiar political circumstance in order to support her decision to stay in the race through June. I have heard her make this reference before, also citing her husband's 1992 race, both of which were hard fought through June. I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense."
Huge mistake. The overreaction will cause millions not to vote for Obama. The RNC is kicking the DNC's ass on fundraising.
McCain will blow out Obama.
Nothing will change and it is your fault.
May 24, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Except that you're wrong.
The Houston Chronicle this morning had a story headlined:
"The Cancer that is Clinton."
She's fucked herself completely. She said this 4 times now and no one is letting her off this time. She's had the benefit of about 2000 doubts and she just pushed it one doubt too far.
She's through, done, over, outta here - stat.
May 24, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
If she said it four times before, where was the outrage the other three times?
It was an historical reference and nothing more.
The overreaction has lost the millions of Clinton supporters.
Obama can't win without us.
It is your fault with your hatred and I tried to tell you.
McCain will blow out Obama.
May 24, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
She got the benefit of the doubt the first 3 times she said it. By the 4th time, people realized that the doubt was all used up.
Your argument couldn't be dumber. She got away with something 3 times, did it again and got caught. Finally.
Gee - this doesn't happen a lot or anything -
Quit being willfully obtuse. I know you're thick, but anyone should be able to get this.
May 24, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
If this was the 4th time, why then, did she lie yesterday at the supermarket when she claimed that it had to do with teddy's recent news that made her think of kennedy?
Please, drink all her cool aid all you want, but that the reason why your candidate didn't win, its call honesty, she just doesn't have it. Perception is everything in politics, and when time after time she just lies, well, she gets this label. Don't blame the rest of us.
May 24, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Of course, we shouldn't forget the point that she was trying to make (or claims to), that the examples she mentioned show other times when the nomination process has been undecided for so long:
ALL LIES!!!
May 24, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah TenaX. I was looking for you. I was posting over on the Huff and just felt a rage about Sentor Clinton's assassination remarks and the people excusing her. I thought about you last night on the other thread. I wasn't that angry last night but now I have read about a million posts excusing Sentor Clinton for a flipping OUTRAGOUS remark. I think she is just an asshole but her apoligists are flipping creeps. I lived through that dark time in America and to refer to the potential assassination of your opponent as the reason you are staying in the race is STUPID and F--KED UP. Now I am raging again.
May 24, 2008 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
lets see. Democrats are showing up in record numbers to vote in the primaries. Republicans not so much. Democrats are showing up in record numbers to listen to Democratic candidates. Republicans not so much. Bob Barr and the Libertarians are not having much trouble securing positions on the ballot. Democrats are raising record amounts of money. Republicans can't raise enough for a shoe shine. Finally, the Republican nominee has to cancel a fundraiser featuring the current President in his "home" state because nobody wants to be seen with either. In a year when everybody is hungering for a serious generational change the Republican nominee calls himself "old as dirt" and reminds nearly everybody of their grumpy old great uncle.
On the other hand, the mainstream media continues to cheer lead for "maverick" John McCain.
Yep, the Republicans have a great shot this fall.
Folks, the corporations who control American media don't want change. They like the status quo. It is in their best interests to do everything they can to insure McCain's election, and they will.
The real issue this election is can American democracy survive media consolidation?
May 24, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
You are so right.
May 24, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
We need a political satellite/cable channel!
Hooked up to the blogs... staffed by some of our favorite bloggers...
Interactive, all day long, show old movies like "Mr. Smith goes to Washington" between political debates...
Just think about it, once the election is over, maybe we should start up a serious dialogue to that effect.
May 24, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The overreaction will cause millions not to vote for Obama. The RNC is kicking the DNC's ass on fundraising.
McCain will blow out Obama."
LOL! Thanks for the laugh at the most ridiculous post of the day. Keep whistling past the graveyard, sport!
May 24, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
God I love this.
GLOATgloatGLOATgloatGLOATgloatGLOATgloat!!!!!
May 24, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
From Ben Smith:
"This isn't the first time Clinton has invoked Bobby Kennedy's assassination as part of an argument about the length of the primary process. On March 6 she told Time :
I think people have short memories. Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A. My husband didn't wrap up the nomination in 1992 until June, also in California. Having a primary contest go through June is nothing particularly unusual. We will see how it unfolds as we go forward over the next three to four months."
You lost.
May 24, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dude - make a big sign, get a soapbox and stand on a corner and rail at the passersby like every other lunatic in the country.
You ain't convincing anyone here. You're wasting your energy and bandwidth.
Go try to persuade someone else of your idiotic excuses for her. She is shit out of excuses and so are you.
May 24, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
You are wrong as usual.
There are millions of us that you are driving away from voting Obama with your hate.
You just can't help yourself.
May 24, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
If this was the 4th time, why then, did she lie yesterday at the supermarket when she claimed that it had to do with teddy's recent news that made her think of kennedy?
Please, drink all her cool aid all you want, but that the reason why your candidate didn't win, its call honesty, she just doesn't have it. Perception is everything in politics, and when time after time she just lies, well, she gets this label. Don't blame the rest of us
May 24, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
o, and one more things, as your candidate once said "words matter"
May 24, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
It is absurd.
It was a historical reference but reading other Clinton supporters comments, they have had enough of this bs.
You lost em.Millions of votes gone.
McCain will win and it is your fault. Period.
May 24, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Gone? Where have they gone to? Are you and the rest of the Hillary supporters going to abstain from this election? Are you going to vote for McCain? Which is it?
Are you willing to enact your self-fulfilling prophecy just to satisfy your own petty spite?
May 24, 2008 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have avoided addressing a comment to you because you are so far around the bend you have lost touch with reality. I hope you take time to read what I am about to write, instead of just dialing in a canned retort. Here goes.
I pray to God that Hillary was just making a historical reference. If not she needs professional help.
Assuming all she was trying to say is that historically primary seasons go on into June, she still used the word "assassination." Sorry but I am old enough to remember exactly where I was when I heard about the assassinations of John Kennedy, Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy. Those event changed my life. They changed the lives of every American. I don't want to see any politician assassinated again.
A major politician merely using the word "assassination" in connection with the possible election of the first black President or the first woman President or even an old white man President might encourage some crazy to dream of doing the deed. It only takes one deranged nut to return us all to the horror of the 1960s. There are some words a candidate for President just doesn't use casually. If a candidate uses one of those words, and "assassination" is a the top of the list, that candidate has disqualified him or herself. Her only hope is to take responsibility for her own words and deeply, humbly and profusely apologize. That she refuses to do.
Sorry gotalife, but no matter how much passion you have for your candidate, she got herself into this mess and she has taken no real step to get herself out. At long last she has to take responsibility for her own words. To quote Hillary Clinton "words do matter."
May 24, 2008 12:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Missed you last night, getalife... you should have been here to help spin the lie even more than it was...
If not for people like you, Hillary would never have been put in this situation. Just keep on pushing your futile agenda, and disregard the cost, all for fear of simply being wrong.
May 24, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
That that there are millions of you is the day I leave this country for good.
Fortunately, I happen to believe most Americans have brains. You are the exception.
May 24, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
There are miilions of Clinton supporters.
Now leave.
May 24, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
She has 17 million.
The other 283 million want her to go away.
the Supers will end this on June 3rd.
May 24, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Buh-bye.
Word.
May 24, 2008 10:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
"You are wrong as usual.
There are millions of us that you are driving away from voting Obama with your hate."
Not even willing to tell the truth about that, are you?
You've made it clear over the past few months that you're less likely to vote for Obama than Cindy McCain.
And yet you keep pretending that there is a chance you'll do it if only he capitulates completely to everything you want.
You're not Arlen Specter are you?
May 24, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Her examples are LIES, gotalife! Or doesn't that interest you? The primary season didn't use to start until March -- the point she was supposedly making is completely erroneous!
May 24, 2008 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
EXACTLY. I would love to see more journalists pointing that out.
May 24, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually last time I checked Hillary Clinton lost.
But who's counting?
Oh that's right, everyone hahahahahaha.
Love the polls showing Obama up in PA, OH, MI and VA over McCain right now WOOOOO HOOOO!
Add those to the swing states Clinton can;t touch... WI, IA, CO...and this thing is locked up for Obama!
May 24, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
w00t!!!
May 24, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey McBush:
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
May 24, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
With all due respect to Robert Kennedy Jr., I don't give a flying fuck if he excuses Hillary for her assassination comment.
Last I checked, it's Michelle Obama's spouse who's being put in danger by Hillary's insane gibbering. Has Michelle excused Hillary? Didn't think so.
This issue of how Hillary may have offended the Kennedy's is a red herring. Obama is the one whose Hillary's comments could further endanger, and that wretched Monster offered NO APOLOGY TO HIM OR HIS FAMILY WHATSOEVER.
Shame on you, Robert Jr., for providing her cover... for essentially doubling down with another family's money. You of all people should realize how truly dangerous her rhetoric has become.
May 24, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
He is right and you are wrong.
So much for unity.
May 24, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
You looking for unity, for real?
Then quit backing that goddamn lying, destructive, cancerous bitch and get behind the guy who has won the nomination.
If you aren't willing to do that then shut the fuck up because you are causing divisiveness. Not us - YOU.
May 24, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rovian/Clintonite arguments don't hold water and should be attacked on their merits. Their falsity needs to be countered with truth, not harsh rhetoric.
Harsh rhetoric is what the repugs have used to sour our public discourse. That and the reductio ad hitlerum which has propagated on the internets. Progressives have no use for such nonsense.
It's hard to not lash out, but I think we should all try.
Again, counter the false with the truth and your argument will win. Let the other guy stew and spit venom. If we try hard, this could elevate our public consciousness.
May 25, 2008 2:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
And I was going to go to the protest! This is farkin' HILARIOUS! McBush can't draw a decent crowd of GOP supporters in his own home state?
Bwahahahahahahaha!
May 24, 2008 11:36 AM | Reply |