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Breaking: McCain Skips Vote On 21st Century G.I. Bill
The Senate just voted to pass Jim Webb's 21st Century version of the G.I. bill, which would greatly expand educational benefits to veterans.
Guess who skipped it?
McCain, who touts his support for veterans, had previously declined to support the bill. He offered another version of it so he'd be seen as having tried to offer an alternate solution.
McCain came under pressure from real live veterans and others to back the Webb bill. And rather than vote against it, he skipped the vote instead.
Both Hillary and Obama voted for it, and it passed 75-22.
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Oh my yes.....can't wait to see THAT missed vote in a general election campaign hahahahah.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
President Barack Obama
May 22, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain supports the war but not the troops.
May 22, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was a mistake.
May 22, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup.
Clinton and Obama both voted.
The war funding passed with domestic add ons.
May 22, 2008 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
McBushCain:
The Hybrid War Machine that runs on Ignorance, Bullshit, and Fear.
More War Year! More War Year! More War Years!
Troops are just cannon fodder for McBushCain.
More War Years! More War Years! More War Years!
May 22, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice to see Clinton and Obama working as a team.
See? We can all get along!
May 22, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama Webb 08
for President!
May 22, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
McSame: I support the troops by word, but not deed. Just like my good friend, President Bush.
May 22, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has McBushCain Crossed The Commander in Chief Threshold now, well has he Hillary?
May 22, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
My friends, I see a campaign commercial in the making. Along with endless repetitions of this, my friends.
May 22, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed :) I'm sure the user My Friend who made appearances yesterday as part of the fantastic McCain 2008 Trolling Pro/Am Tournament in the veritable Bile Pump otherwise known as last night's To the Convention! thread will be pleased.
OT - but that Shadow Character you were asking about some days back made a Hiding in Plain Sight slip in that very thread that's pure gold :) Be glad you missed the festivities...
May 22, 2008 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Bile pump". I started reading it, then gave up. The vitriol and headspinning arguments were making me dizzy....
May 22, 2008 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Giant teeth.
May 22, 2008 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hear ya - almost to the point that i no longer have the patience with those monster free for all threads anymore.
TrollCritic 4000 has joined the effort today, though - distributing the load might save my patience yet :)
May 22, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm afraid my sense of self preservation took over as I waded into that boiling cesspool of intellectual waste. Sanity is at a premium in this field and the wise critic knows when his own is at stake.
May 22, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Love your Geico commercial!
The trolling has been a little light today. Poor things must be getting tired.
May 22, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are much too kind.
May 22, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Incoming CB prediction:
McCainian cesspool commentary of epic proportions coming soon to political blogs everywhere. Put on your galoshes, wading will be deep.
May 22, 2008 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, Johnny baby! Thanks for the big fat gift!
Holy shit, dude, you shouldn't have - it's what I always wanted and never expected to get.
This set you back a fortune, McLame! Thank you!
May 22, 2008 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Starting to like this Webb guy...
May 22, 2008 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aye, one sees a future for this young lion (young for the Senate, of course).
Trouble is, if he becomes Obama's VEEP, VA is not likely to replace him with another Dem.
That McCain skipped this vote disqualifies him as CinC.
May 22, 2008 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Defies all logic, good sense and sound public policy. My friends, I give you the Republican nominee for President of the United States. Well, I guess HE can pay for his kids to go to college after the war. F*CK all of those veterans whose daddies didn't marry rich!
May 22, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
CIC threshold!
May 22, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Someone fill me in - what are the grounds on which McCain refused his support?
May 22, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
He says he's afraid the rewards would discourage people from staying in military service longer.
May 22, 2008 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Said it was too expensive and the benefits should not be awarded to those who only re-enlist.
May 22, 2008 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, I clicked the link above... duh.
May 22, 2008 1:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Bush administration and some in the pentagon are afraid the bill will give soldiers an incentive to leave the service at the end of their enlistments rather than reenlist. The thinking of the administration's MBAs is that if poor soldiers have no hope for the future they will opt to stay in the service.
May 22, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
My friends....
May 22, 2008 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
ROFL
May 22, 2008 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Folks:
Every Democrat, except Senator Kennedy, because of his medical leave, voted to support the Troops.
Here is a list of all the Republicans who voted aginst the Troops or abstained like McBushCain The Cowardly Maverick.
Target all these Republican Senators when theycome up for re-election. They all hate The Troops.
Their vote shows how much they hate our brave Troops.
I bet those Troop hating bastards were all wearing
their lapel flagpins as they cast their Troop hating votes.
Hound those traitors from office. Here are the names of all those Anti Troops cretins.
NAYs ---22
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennett (R-UT)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
DeMint (R-SC)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lugar (R-IN)
McConnell (R-KY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Not Voting - 3
Coburn (R-OK)
Kennedy (D-MA) Ted supported the bill, all the way.
McCain (R-AZ)
May 22, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
What?!?!? Feinstein voted with the DEMs!
My universe ie reeling.
May 22, 2008 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hot damn!
Voinovich just gift-wrapped an issue for us to use against him in 2 years.
May 22, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if this is gotalife's definition of McCain leadership it touts so often?
May 22, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, Webb led on this issue.
McCain lost on this issue.
May 22, 2008 2:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Forgive my ignorance -- but can senators vote by proxy? Have someone else push the button?
May 22, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
No.
May 22, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Straight talk maverick.
May 22, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Honestly, though. Did he know there was a vote taking place today?
May 22, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's McCain's response to Barack Obama courtesy of Marc Ambinder at the Atlantic:
May 22, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh, what did Obama say that McCain is so angry about?
May 22, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm checking thomas.loc.gov to see if the Congressional Record has his remarks. Nothing yet. It usually takes a day or so for his remarks to reflect in the Congressional Record.
May 22, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I neither know nor care, as long as McCain is angry, preferably while the cameras are rolling.
May 22, 2008 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's what Obama said:
I respect sen. John McCain's service to our country. He is one of those heroes of which I speak. But I can't understand why he would line up behind the President in his opposition to this GI bill.
I can't believe why he believes it is too generous to our veterans. I could not disagree with him and the President more on this issue. There are many issues that lend themselves to partisan posturing but giving our veterans the chance to go to college should not be one of them.
May 22, 2008 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cheap shots on the Senate floor?
ROFLMAO!
Dude, where were you when your president stood up in the Knesset and went off on the Democrats?
That wasn't just a cheap shot - that was almost unconstitutional.
You really want to give me this priceless gift, doncha, McLame?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 22, 2008 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
That didn't take long. The first real opportunity and Obama gets so far under his skin that McCain loses his temper.
I suspect Obama will rattle his cage all fall. The old guy is like somebody's cranky grandpa.
May 22, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does he really want to remind people that he can remember the bombing of Pearl harbor?
May 22, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
So Senator George W. McCain voted "ABSENT"? Brilliant!
May 22, 2008 1:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
...MINDED
May 22, 2008 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
When it came time to support our troops, John McCain [que music] was at a San Francisco fundraising party.
May 22, 2008 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL.
May 22, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Weaselly wimp.
May 22, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really, what could they have been thinking? It would have been better to show up and make a big stink about it and vote no, but to just blow it off, wow, defies logic.
May 22, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. "He blew off our troops when they needed John McCain the most. He wasn't there when I voted to increase educational benefits for our young men and women in uniform. John McCain thinks that our brave soldiers who have served a single retention in Iraq, facing great dangers, and have come home with many injuries, don't deserve the benefit of a great education as their peers who served longer.
I wouldn't be where I am today if my grandfather, who fought in World War II, hadn't benefited from the GI Bill, which allowed him to go to college, buy a home, and raise his family. I am proud to support this bill and hope to see this become law for our brave men and women in uniform."
May 22, 2008 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
My friends, WHAT A PUTZ!!!!!!
May 22, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is it Christmas, Kwanza, and Chanukah allllll rolled up into one?
This absent vote is like a pony in your back yard on your 10th birthday and a porshe in your driveway on your 16th birthday.
MMMMMM HAPPINESS IN MY HEART!
May 22, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's Happy Dance Time!
w00t!
May 22, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.eschatonblog.com/2004_06_06_archive.html#108706915490809979
May 22, 2008 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
:)
I loved the w00t - always.
May 22, 2008 2:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I loved the w00t too, but even w00t love isn't worth giving atrios a web hit.
May 22, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
No love for Atrios?
May 22, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
None. At all. Atrios is a king-sized douche, AFAIAC.
May 22, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I read him every now and then. I wouldn't call him a douche, kingsize or any other size--why is he so repugnant?
And forgive my ignorance, but what does:
AFAIAC
stand for?
May 22, 2008 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
AFAIC = as far as I'm concerned.
May 22, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was a regular commenter there for 5 years. When I say he's a king-sized douche, it's because I've seen how he runs his blog, capriciously banning people he decides aren't "cool" enough for him or whatever. Certain things are beyond the pale if certain people say them...but not if others do. There's a real clique mentality over there where the most tireless self-promoters pretty much end up dictating what is allowed to be said and what is not, and he fosters that and enforces it. So, on a personal level, I think he's a huge douche.
"AFAIAC" means "as far as I am concerned".
May 22, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks! I never commented, and used to read the comments, so I didn't see the inner workings of the operation.
The times that I did read the comments I noticed that the same commenters kept appearing and had a bunch of inside jokes. It sort of felt like junior high, so I stopped reading them.
May 22, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, "jr. high" would be the best way to describe it. Plus, he's a lot more worried about banning regulars who he's decided he doesn't like than he is about banning trolls, which are legion in that blog's comments. Whatever. I just don't go there anymore.
May 22, 2008 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Junior high-ish indeed. The irony is that he has his own Kool Kids now, after having coined the term for the Media elites.
I fear there is some of that here too. Perhaps I'll rant more about it sometime.
May 22, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jennofark,
I actually agree about the clique-ishness among the posters at Eschaton, but I am more interested in Atrios's insights than his commenters.
His blog posts continue to be priceless gems which cut through the nonsense by our media. If only Greg and Eric (sorry, gentlemen, I mean this constructively) had Atrios's discernment, TPMEC would succumb less to bullshit media narratives. Atrios is not as much about politics but about the media, and boy has he been disciplined in keeping his eye on that ball.
May 22, 2008 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Atrios cuts through the B.S. in ways that other bloggers can only envy. He's made me more interested the wonky details of the economy than I would ever have expected.
I don't think EC has Kool Kids, btw. TPMCafe? Definitely. And reader's blogs from TPMCafe are exhibit #1 of Kool Kidism, if you ask me.
May 22, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
He does a good job of compiling bullshit into one easy to access archive...I don't know that his insights for the most part are all that earth-shaking, I would say they mostly fall under the heading of "common sense" or "duh" as in, any reasonable person would draw a similar conclusion. So, yeah, he does a decent job of that. Unfortunately, for loyal readers, that has tended to get a bit obscured by his interaction with his cheerleading squad. As I noted there before I finally quit reading him at all, he knocks people like Joe Klein and the editors and ombudsmen of quite a few different online, print, and broadcast outlets for doing the same stuff he does himself now - which is, holding himself above the plebes and feeling he doesn't have to answer to his readers for some of the stuff he does when he's wrong. He'll respond to his gang of cool kids, but no one else. And you know, that's just BS. So I started getting the info I used to get from him from the sources he gets it from, and just stopped going around there at all.
May 22, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
...Yeah?
May 22, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's going to make this even better is when President Bush tries to veto it and it becomes the Bush/McCain anti-troop agenda.
Ahhh, and my birthday isn't for three more weeks.
May 22, 2008 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain has an especially vitriolic press release regarding this issue.
May 22, 2008 2:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
oops. i see flufferwink already has this for everyone to see...
May 22, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
"And, I have earned the right to screw 'em too."
May 22, 2008 2:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is such an entitled brat. Can't you see him stamping his feet and getting red in the face over the audacity of anyone challening the myth he and the media have created for him? Sorry, Senator. Get used to being exposed.
May 22, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
As far as the argument that the bill gives too much incentive to soldiers to leave the service...I'd say it gives plenty of incentive for civilians to join the service, too. The stop-loss tactics were implemented because there were simply too few people signing up for the military in the first place. If the military was viewed not as a detour from the real world but an opportunity to further one's professional goals by paying for their higher education, you'd certainly see more enlistment. Getting more people into uniform seems preferable to devising policies to trap people in those uniforms.
May 22, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Folks: This is a huge game changer, not just for the Presidency, but for sweeping many more Republicans out of the US Senate. Keep their names in the spotlights for the next four years. We can oust them based on their votes against The Troops. The wore lapel flagpins as the cast their votes against our brave Troops.
Every Democrat, except Senator Kennedy, because of his medical leave, voted to support the Troops.
Here is a list of all the Republicans who voted aginst the Troops or abstained like McBushCain The Cowardly Maverick.
Target all these Republican Senators when they come up for re-election. They all hate The Troops.
Their vote shows how much they hate our brave Troops.
I bet those Troop hating bastards were all wearing
their lapel flagpins as they cast their Troop hating votes.
Hound those traitors from office. Here are the names of all those Anti Troops cretins.
NAYs ---22
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennett (R-UT)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
DeMint (R-SC)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lugar (R-IN)
McConnell (R-KY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Not Voting - 3
Coburn (R-OK)
Kennedy (D-MA) Ted supported the bill, all the way.
McCain (R-AZ)
May 22, 2008 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like in all other things, McSame was for honoring the troops' sacrifice before he was against it. Like he was against torture before he was for it, he was against tax cuts before he was for them, etc etc etc...
May 22, 2008 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Boy did he fuck himself up - 75 to 22? O lawd!
The Democrats have more style than a barber shop, call the cops!
The Republicans are drilling holes in the SS Titanic so it will sink faster.
LOL!!!
May 22, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
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May 22, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lawsuit filed against DNC to seat FL delegates.
http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2008/05/19/daily33.html
May 22, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
motherfuckers.
Like I said yesterday - I'm in favor of tying Florida and Michigan up, gagging both states and locking them in the basement until this is over.
That bitch went to Florida yesterday and claimed she is really Al Gore and Obama is Bush and this is the goddamn result.
A fucking lawsuit. *heavy goddamn sigh*
I hate the Clintons.
May 22, 2008 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
That lawsuit's going to go really well. So, you were told if you moved up the primary, you would lose your delegates, and you moved up the primary and lost your delegates. It's a VERY compelling case.
May 22, 2008 2:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, in this case not voting is worse than voting. McCain could have voted "no" and defended on principled policy grounds, but by taking a pass he looks like a cowardly, uncaring ass.
May 22, 2008 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
One could almost say that McCain cut and ran on GIs....
May 22, 2008 2:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo -
I really really loves that, CT.
May 22, 2008 2:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
He was against it before he skipped it
May 22, 2008 2:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
The perfect statement.
And if any of McSame's hacks start talking about Obama "voting present," even though those votes were procedural moves rather than cop-outs, this is exactly what Obama's people have to throw back in McSame's face. Over and over again.
May 22, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Totally and shamelessly OT - it's very humid here the last few days and one of my double doors has swelled and any time it's opened or closed, there is an ear-splitting shriek from where the top of one wooden door scrapes on the top of the other wooden door.
Will 3-in-1 oil solve that, or do I need something else?
(you were warned about this being OT)
May 22, 2008 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tena - get a silicone lubricant for it. Long term solution is to take down the door, plane the top of it, and re-hang it.
May 22, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks - I knew you'd know.
If only I had a plane...
my husband is not, alas, conversant with tools. My dad could and did build anything and everything. I don't think his dad ever so much as held a hammer. Around here it's up to me.
May 22, 2008 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tena - about the silicone...before you try that even, try just rubbing the top of the door with some Gulfwax. That might be enough to stop the shrieking.
May 22, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
If it is door-on-door start by tightenintg the screws in the top hinge of each door.
May 22, 2008 2:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
or tightening :)
May 22, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
This was a disgrace.
May 22, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know, home repair tips on TPMEC!!! Outrageous!!!!
Seriously, though, it is a disgrace. I guess this means they won't be hitting Obama on his "present" votes in the IL senate this Fall....cuz they just handed Obama the zinger reply of a lifetime to that one.
May 22, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
With regard to Michigan, I agree with Randy Rhodes...
Not only should Hillary NOT be awarded the delegates she scammed, she should be PENALIZED for breaking the rules and keeping her name on the ballot.
As for Florida, who cares? They're going to pick Grandpa Simpson anyway.
May 22, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Holy crap. How did this end up here?
May 22, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Brave McCain ran away.
Bravely ran away, away!
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave McCain turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, John McCain!"
"He is packing it in and packing it up
And sneaking away and buggering up
And chickening out and pissing off home,
Yes, bravely he is throwing in the sponge... "
May 22, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink