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Big Conservative Attack Ad Proves A Bust

The big-money conservative third-party group Freedom's Watch is apparently desperate to hang on to a GOP House seat that is in danger despite being in a deep-red district.

In their latest gambit, Freedom's Watch didn't even try in their new attack ad to back up a key accusation against Don Cazayoux, the Dem candidate in tomorrow's closely-watched Louisiana special election for Congress. And in response, one local station pulled the ad from the air.

Here's the ad, which got taken off the air by Baton Rouge's CBS affiliate:

The Cazayoux campaign complained that there was no evidence at all that he supports benefits for illegal immigrants, and his true position is just the opposite -- indeed, they noted, the ad doesn't actually offer any sort of citation or other piece of evidence.


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Here's to there being many more headlines like this one in the months to come.

They are floundering. This is the same guy they were "campaigning" against by making fun of his name.

Wow.

It's like the election for Junior High class president.

Hey Eric - You missed this one:

SUSA polls Oregon

SurveyUSA. 4/28-5/1. Likely voters. MoE 3.9% (4/4-6 results)

Obama 50 (52)
Clinton 44 (44)

Among whites:

Obama 50
Clinton 44

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=cd35ffc2-5d9f-4e83-9023-44d488d92aa3

Here's Markos' take:

Yeah, Oregon is mostly white. And Obama is winning it.

Funny that, I've just spent weeks hearing about how Obama can't win white people. So I'm a bit confused.

Also, Oregon is ranked 23rd in the nation in per-capita income. That ranks below Ohio. In fact, none of Oregon's counties rank in the list of the nation's 100 richest counties. And while Portland's Multnomah County is one of the state's wealthiest counties, Obama actually does far better outside of Portland, were people are poorer and whiter.

Funny that, I've just spent weeks hearing about how Obama can't win lower-income voters. So I'm a bit confused.

You know what's going on? White people west of the Mississippi like Obama fine, those east of the Mississippi have a problem with him. That's why (generally speaking) Obama runs far stronger in the western part of the country, despite having smaller to non-existent black populations.


Sounds like Wisconsin in some ways. Not all ways, but some.

That and the Clinton political machine doesn't have as many fingers in western politics as it does in eastern. People in the west can make up their own minds without a ton of spin from local pols to muddy it.

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The Religious Right's power is in decline.

You know what's going on? White people west of the Mississippi like Obama fine, those east of the Mississippi have a problem with him. That's why (generally speaking) Obama runs far stronger in the western part of the country, despite having smaller to non-existent black populations.

Omyfuckinggod - someone finally gets it!!!! This is what I'm seeing.


Unless the race chasm thing mentioned earlier this month is the reason. I still haven't heard a strong rebuttal for it.

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I think the Kos post quoted by the OP tangentially explains what's happening. There isn't a "race chasm", per se, because Obama has won a LOT of states where there's virtually no black population.


I don't know that it's necessarily "East vs. West". I think it's a little more complicated. Basically, it goes like this: In states where there is very little black population, Obama does very well. In states where there is a more racially diverse population, Obama doesn't do as well.


It's difficult to explain why. But I'll take a stab at it. My (utterly non-definitive) guess is that states with no black population don't have as much resistance to a black candidate. Since there is virtually no black population, they don't get any negative stereotypes reinforced by the local media.


So, these people are less likely to be frightened by trivia like an Arabic middle name, a far-left-wing ex-pastor, or knowing an English professor who did bad things when the candidate was eight years old.


When they get past the distractions offered by the MSM, the Clinton campaign and the GOP, all that's left is to compare policies, political approaches and general honesty and decency. On those measures, Obama wins.


But look at states where there are large pockets of minority presence. White voters go much more for Clinton in those states. I think it's because they are more susceptible to stereotyping blacks, and so they become afraid. The fear-mongering only feeds into that fear, and reinforces the negative racial associations they make.


Again, this is a guess. But I think it goes a way to explaining why Obama's won a lot of Western states with mostly white population, but lost white voters in states like Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, and California.

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There isn't a "race chasm", per se, because Obama has won a LOT of states where there's virtually no black population.

That's actually part of Sirota's claim. The "race chasm" is the states where the black population is in the middle. Obama wins where there are very few blacks or lots of blacks.

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Hillary Clinton panders to voters by proposing gas tax holiday.

Senator Obama and Congress reply:

Well Woo-De-Doo!!!

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edit:

Hillary Clinton panders to voters by proposing gas tax holiday.

Senator Obama and Congress reply:

Well Woop-De-Doo!!!

As a resident of Colorado, this trend doesn't surprise me at all. The American West is a very special place. People here tend to have a live-and-let-live attitude. While most of us are white or Hispanic, people are generally accepting of other races and cultures. And we don't take kindly to fast talking and pandering--we just want someone honest who will get the job done and do it right the first time. Obama is that person.

(The above was meant as a reply to HusseinTenaX.)

That is an adorable avatar you have there.

That is an adorable avatar.


Yes I agree and Texas having multi-personality disease, shares in that western sensibility. He's popular here among white people. My neighborhood is predominantly white and there are Obama signs all over it. One Hillary sign. One. I tend to drive past that house blasting "Dirt Off my Shoulder" with the windows down.

Anyway - I really do agree. There are racists everywhere, but there is also a different sensibility west of the Mississippi.


So that explains why the Minutemen formed in the West - that old Western Live and Let Live attitude.

Once again, the same worn-out tripe. Any white person who doesn't swoon over The Dear Leader is de facto a racist.

Good God, you 'bots are a stupid lot.

Word. Straight up.

Not that the Clinton campaign has done anything to bolster that impression.

Clinton Accepts aid from divisive figure - NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/20/us/politics/20commence.html

Clinton's Civil Rights Lesson - NYT:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/07/civilrights/

Clinton's tepid response to Ferraro
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23601041/

This list goes on....

You're ignoring the simple fact that every time somebody comes out against The Dear Leader or says anything you perceive as negative you automatically brand them a racist. Which is, of course, patently stupid.

And your Google skills notwithstanding, blaming it all on Clinton doesn't make your case. It only makes you look desperate.

mordecai - what part of Colorado? If you don't mind sayin -

You're going to hate me for this - I'm one of those Texans. Or was. I spent every summer of my life either on the headwaters of the Rio Grande out of Creede or after my parents bought two houses in Lake City for $12,000 - if you can imagine - on the western slope. Then after they died, I had a place in Lake City. I just sold it and moved down to Taos in the summers.

Anyplace but Dallas.

but now who will watch our freedom for us?

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Well of course your neighborhood is predominantly white, sugar, and that makes your acceptance of people of other colors all the more endearing. I believe of all the cities I have visited, Dallas must be the most racially-accepting and free of discord(well, you know, Highland Park and Plano and Frisco and so forth, where I spent my time there). Thank goodness you are able to get out of Dallas and summer in Taos, where you can experience that strong Native American culture as well. You are just too precious! How could anyone possibly hate you? Thank you in advance for helping us win Texas in November!

yeah, I remember when Jesse Jackson was stumping for (Bill) Clinton in 1992. He came into the student senate room for a meet and greet before he spoke to the general student body of the southern Oregon College. When he came into the room it was utterly astonishing to see the reaction of the 99.9% white students gathered there. Mouths flew open, looks of astonishment, embarrassment and confusion.
It was like they intellectually KNEW he was black, but when Jesse and his entourage entered the room the fact that not only HE was black but his attendees were black too was culture shock!

Jesse was a consummate gentleman about it, though, and just said "They told me it was white in Oregon!" he then looked at that 0.01% black woman student and said "Lord! what are YOU doing here!" and that broke the group up and we all laughed.
But I will never forget that electric moment when they realised Jesse Jackson was black on a more than intellectual level.

Oregon has a large contingent of hippie radicals, Grateful Dead followers and environmental types. The fact that Obama is black probably doesn't even register with them, and if it does, it is incidental.

just an observation
morriganinoregon

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I love! the two part premise of the add:

We are FOR God, and AGAINST illegals.

Hilarious.

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Yep, I love it.

In god we trust, now won't someone keep these brown people away from our doctors?

Morrigan in Oregon - you say that "hippie radicals, Grateful Dead followers and environmental types" like it was a BAD thing.

And then to characterize us as being unobservant, do you know how observant and ever-vigilant we must be to survive in straight stupid society?

My fellow hippie radicals, Grateful Dead followers and environmental types are mostly over 50, homeowners and successful lawyers, govt and business experts, health professionals, etc., IRAs and investment funds are not unknown to us. Most of us travel regularly all over to maintain family ties and the issue of supporting one's ailing, aging parents is becoming bigger and bigger.

I suppose you're one of wonderful citizens who drives a big SUV to the Wal-Mart on SE 82nd with such incompetence, and attends the big mega-church over here that promoted the anti-gay initiatives and where my son's private school is renting their hall for his graduation?

PS Update your stereotypes. Yeah we listen to the Dead on KBOO on Saturdays, but we also listen to the bluegrass, folk, jazz and light hiphop all the rest of Saturday, and we really go nuts late night Monday and Tuesday for the exotic sounds of Joe Woods' "Tiki Chacha Hour" and "Lounge World" shows, and the African and Reggae offerings of DJ Ital Vibes, DJ Charlie and others.

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I don't think it was meant as a dig or that you are unobservant. He was just saying this group is more laid back and accepting of people of different races and thus "don't see color" a la Stephen Colbert.

hey, feather family,

I didn't say there was anything 'BAD' about Oregon. I choose to live here! I lived in the southern oregon communes for over 20 years and fought the good fight for the Barter Fair that Jackson/Josephine county shut down and we finally won.
I had a booth at the Oregon Country Fair in the Community Village for a few years, and it is my family. I never got to buy a home or have kids or have a good career, but I am making it day by day and not complaining.

so chill, try not to read hate where there is none, cause there is enough out there with out us hating each other.

Well maybe I am hypersensitive to perceived attacks on hippie radicals ... I never did get to have it out with that famous author at the convention over this in 1985 ... we were realizing today how close Country Faire is getting, I'm usually pretty mellow at my booth (between Blazing Salads and the Ritz).

I don't think Oregonians should be congratulating themselves on being less racist than the rest of the country. Mulegeta Seraw would dispute that if he were alive to do so.

Gary Delgado, founder of Center for Third World Organizing, has said that Portland is the most racist city in America. We have long been recognized as "the most openly racist city outside the south" I don't know if that's true, but we all AryanFest to happen here without a murmur.

How many times has Portland utterly decimated a black neighborhood for white benefit. If we don't include the shameful disapparance of Vanport, then let's look at how a vibrant black neighborhood was condemned and handed over to Emanuel hospital to build their facility - 30 blocks of homes knocked down for white convenience. Let's look at the Gentrification that has driven blacks out of N and NE Portland?

Did you read those Letters to the Editor on the Chavez Blvd issue? how about when that immigrant from Africa complained about police stopping him again and again? What about the DEMOCRATIC Party and the Oregon Bus Project being gutless wonders and either not talking about immigration or going along with the nativist haters.

Please, Oregon is the center of the Aryan Rock movement and home to all sorts of white supremacist groups. And let's not forget the so-called liberal alt-weekly spilling gallons of ink defending Aryan Rock...and their continuing promotion of the racist and sexist Callahan, a relentlessly unfunny hatemongering racist. Yes, Portland is very liberal, but liberal does not mean anti-racist.

25% of Oregonians voted to RETAIN racist language in our constitution including the prohibition aganst blacks owning property. yes, the law is overturned, but they want to preserve the racist sentiment in perpetuity. How shameful is that?

Try watching the documentary The Color of Portland.

Then why the heck are you supporter Bill and Hillary Clinton? Their longtime family friend, fundraiser who Bill once glowing admired for his innovative law enforcement activities in New Orleans:

Sheriff Lee tried to errect a barrier to keep out blacks from neighboring white communities.

When black neighborhoods complained about police brutality, he pulled all of the police from the neighborhood, leaving them unprotected.

But my favorite was when he blocked Katrina victims fleeing the flood from crossing the Crescent City bridge, citing he had a "duty" to protect the empty homes of white residents who had the means to escape.

Too bad this will never hit the papers because the bastard died in Nov. Bill gave a nice speech at his funeral though.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/04/clinton-accepts-aid-from-a-div.php

yeah, I don't get to Portland much, but when Jesse Jackson came to Southern Oregon State College, (now called Southern Oregon University)he talked to us about The State constitution that was approved in 1857 two years before Oregon became a state. In the original Constitution Article II, Sec. 6 provided that "No Negro, Chinaman or Mulatto shall have the right of suffrage." This changed after the Civil War, but until 1935 it was still illegal to 'bring a negro, mulatto or Chinaman'into the state by that same constitution.

So no one said the old Pioneers were singing Kumbaya around those campfires. But I do say there is a lot of wilderness out here, still, that you can carve out a place to live with out getting too close to your neighbors.


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This wouldn't apply to Oregon, but would explain places like Idaho, Nebraska, Wyoming, Utah:

It was the Clintons who first devised the strategy of writing off large swaths of the country -- you never heard of blue states and red states before then. Democrats in those states rightly resented being thrown overboard like so much ballast. That's why they like Dean and his 50-state strategy, and that's why they like Obama.

The prospect of Hillary bringing out every last dittohead and apocalypse-awaiter to vote against their local candidates in November doesn't exactly thrill them either.

This post has nothing to do with Obama!!!!

OMG! You Obama people are obsessed! Is your precious little Obama the only thing you can think about?!!!!

What is wrong with you people?

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To be fair, the attack ads run in that primary were trying to tie the Dem to Obama, as if that would bring him down.

It didn't.

To be fair, the attack ads run in that primary were trying to tie the Dem to Obama, as if that would bring him down.

It didn't.

AnnieW, you need to scroll back up to the top of this thread and actually play the ad in question here. This has nothing to do with Obama. The entire thread is about a Republican attack ad being run against a Louisiana Democrat. The ad claims he hates God and loves illegal immigrants. OBAMA IS NOT EVEN MENTIONED IN THIS AD!!!

I hope you feel as silly as you sound, spouting off about something you know absolutely nothing about.


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Hey OregonActivist

I take umbrage at your assessement that the 25% that voted to keep those racist roots in this States' Constitution did so, because we were/are racist. I believe that keeping those ugly ideas out front and center can show just how far back and ingrained these attitudes flow, towards all minorities. Now we have a clean document that belies the truth that the precursors were racist or at the least, put aside their convictions and approved the original slave language.
This is part of the dialogue that should be going on. That is at least as far back that the real form of racism, that Rev. Wright railed against,has exsisted.
Oregon came into the union as a free state, but in order to be admitted at all "it" conceded those issues to the Federal government. But I believe that it wasn't just a "made us do it" attitude that put that language and phrasing in the orginal document. There were portions of the constitution that disallowed a Free Negro from owning property and allowed a Free Negro to be held until status was confrimed.
No, when I voted to keep all of that in the states constitution I cast that vote so all might see and know where we come from and that just to hide the ugly path we are on is no way to acknowledge the past and what the problem is.
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I am glad that a small portion of those 25% were not motivated by racism. However, your post reeks of white privilege. People of color organizations asked for folks to vote to strike this language. They made clear they don't like the official reminders of past racism. This is an issue where their opinion really should be critical in your decision making.

However, instead of honoring their request, you associated yourself by voting with the racists who wanted to retain the language. Your self-identified belief that daily reminders that our government was officially racists outweighing the desire of people of color to not have their faces rubbed in it.

GOP give oath to Bible over Constitution...Why do they hate America so much?

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Markos quote provided by 'thejoshuablog':
"You know what's going on? White people west of the Mississippi like Obama fine, those east of the Mississippi have a problem with him. That's why (generally speaking) Obama runs far stronger in the western part of the country, despite having smaller to non-existent black populations."

Yeah...except in California, and New Mexico, and Arizona, and Oklahoma, and Texas*. Don't get me wrong, I'm for Obama, but let's not pretend the west is somehow behaving in a more enlightened fashion during this election. I've lived on the west coast and now live in the midwest. My state went for Obama in a big way.

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Is it really a Race chasm as Sirota described? Or is it the states in which the history of slavery, the civil War, segregation and continued racism is still a powerful influence?

History and culture count for a lot, and the entwined histories of slavery, the civil war and it's aftermath of segregation are still a powerful influence east of the Mississippi and through the Eastern half of Texas. It's been my impression that California governor Pete Wilson pretty much ruined racism and ethnicity as a political issue in California, but he had a better history there.

While California had it's anti-Asian efforts, the Chinese and Japanese were never slaves and never had to be militarily oppressed in the way African slaves were, so the society was less imbued with the cultural beliefs of racial inferiority that was required to justify slavery and which carried over into segregation.

I can't prove this is true, but it seems reasonable and would in part explain why Obama is finding it easier to get votes in the west.

There is also the fact that the Clinton - Obama race has a large "identity politics" element. Blacks for Obama and older White women for Clinton. That seems to be a factor that splits Democratic voters in the Primaries, but once a nominee is selected, neither of those groups is likely to vote Republican. The general election is going to be run on a very different dynamic, and I expect that both Clinton and Obama will be working hard to get their constituencies out supporting the nominee in the general election regardless of who wins the nomination.

I wish I believed what you say is true. I agree that history plays a role and that the South has historical traditions of overt racism that make the rest of the country look enlightened. That those states also are more homophobic, more misogynistic, more anti-Union, more anti-government, etc. are also part of the mix, though. I don't think it's the racist tradition that explains it, I think it is the fundamentalist dominance. But that's for another debate.

My real quibble is the assumption that the West is particularly enlightened compared to the rest of the non-Confederate states. AS I mentioned before, Oregon's constitution explicitly prohibited black property ownership. But it's not just Oregon, the Posse Comitatus started in Washington. Idaho has been home to virulent white supremacist groups for years. The Southwest is riddled with vigilante anti-immigrant groups like the Minutemen who can claim they are not racist until the sun stops shining and no one of sense will believe them.

My basic objection is to the self-congratulatory tone of some Westerners who seemed to be exempting themselves from the disease that infects all Americans.

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