Might want to add that sources say it's a lock that Obama has 20 SD's that he'll be rolling out from now until North Carolina. 2 yesterday, maybe more today...

Story here.

I expect us all to unite and fight like crazy against McCain in a few weeks, so I simply don't "get" this.
There are three hurdles to the nomination.
1. Delegates earned in Primaries and caucauses(Yes. Iowa counts!). Obama check!
2. Lead in Polular Vote (Yes. FL and Michigan don't count!) Obama Check!
3. The Supers.
After Senator Clinton's failure to score decisively in PA, Obama has jumped over the first two. It would de disastrous if the Supers acted differently.

What are these people plotting? If it were to continue to unfairly attack Senator Obama, is it because they want him to lose so Clinton can run again in 2012? This reminds me of Joe Klein's book PRIMARY COLORS where, if I recall correctly, the Bill Clinton character says something like he is willing to destroy the party if necessary to get the nod. I'm having my suspicions about the Clinton cabal and their loyalty to the larger part,

This is silly season. It's over for Clinton. Do the math. According to Newsweek poll, her negatives are worse than McCain and Obama. I think Dems don't realize how much Republicans hate her. And I know many New Yorkers who now despise her as well.

Watch for the NY Times to rescind their endorsement of her in the next couple of weeks.

I don't understand why people say Fl and Mich popular votes "don't count." The popular vote doesn't count at all in any formal way. BUT, when the automatic (also known as super) delegates make their decisions, the preferences of millions of Democrats in those two states will be considered, with whatever caveats the individual dels want to include as they try to determine HOW WE WIN IN NOVEMBER. HRC has indeed gotten more primary votes than anyone in history. How this is weighed and which votes matter and what that all means is up to each individual delegate. THAT IS WHAT THE RULES OF THE PARTY ARE DESIGNED FOR. EVERYTHING COUNTS in this last phase. And please stop saying "she can't catch up." Who is ahead at this point is a factor in how the superdels decide, but 2025 wins.

It's as true now as it ever was. . . no super-delegate was to destroy the next generation of the Democratic party by overturning the will of the voters. Obama has set the part up for generational dominance. The fact that older women are sticking with their girl is something I completely understand and respect. I has the opportunity to sit and talk with an older woman volunteer for Hillary in Iowa for about an hour and it really changed my perspective. They have every right to have their voice heard and have the process carried out. In the end, however, they don't have a right for Hillary to be handed the nomination at the convention AND they recognize the importance of the energy and engagement in politics Obama has brought out of younger voters. They understand that and realize how important it is for democracy to be reborn in each generation.

Is anyone going to mention the fact that if Hillary gets the nomination, Al Gore will not be working with her on the environment? Isn't this another strong point for Obama? Other than the fact that the Clintons so enthusiastically lie?

It's interesting to me that Obama being heavily favored in NC (a big state) is not getting as much pub. PA, a state where Clinton was supposed to win, got as much pub as the GE. Indiana, the state where she has a shot to win is getting a ton of play. They are not giving Hillary a shot to win NC, and apparently she is not going to campaign there much - but somehow people are supposed to believe that she will fight for everyone? Say what you want about Obama, but he's fought in every state.

I'd sure love it if one of these super delegates would tell us how the Democrats are going to win the presidency with a candidate who can only manage 8% of the African American vote. I mean, I know all these dumb black folk are just supposed to fall right back in line and vote for the candidate who's been largely dismissive toward them, right after you fuck over the first viable African American candidate in history, but call me skeptical.

, but call me skeptical.

Call me convinced. I know the voter dynamics.

I'll keep saying this: in one precinct here on primary night, 4000 people showed up where in '04 a total of 58 people voted.

That's what Obama can do for us.

Has anyone wondered if Hillary is staying in this thing to shoehorn herself into the VP slot?

The supers are dickless wonders. "Please voters! Decide so I don't have to declare!" Typical pathetic Democrats, the very embodiment of why we are seen as weak. And as for media treatment of NC, it's this: any state Obama has in the bag doesn't mean anytthing, because, well ... he has it in the bag. Hillary wins PA by all of nine -- a state she couldn't have designed any better for a blowout -- and it's covered as a sort of "upset." The press is pukeworthy.

the goal being to erase the sense of inevitability that surrounds Obama's candidacy.

Hillary's is the arthmetically challenged smokescreen campaign.

I seriously doubt that any of the Supers are undecided at this point. They are undeclared, but I would be very surprised if anyone of them was still truly unable to make up their mind. I'm sure they each have their reasons for why they haven't yet declared, just as those who have declared have their reasons. The point being they are nothing like a monolithic block of voters at all. They are all acting on their own feelings and intrest, as it should be.

Some of the undeclared we can be almost totally sure who they will go for. Reid and Pelosi are surely going to go Obama, and it seems like Jimmy Carter is as well. If you dig in and look at who the undeclareds are, you could probably venture a guess on many. The hardest to tell(and really the least deserving to be Supers) are some of the DNC party people.

I really can't guess what Clinton's game is right now. If she really thinks she will convince the Supers to give it to her at this point, she must be delusional. Afterall, she must know many of those people fairly well, and she must know those who hate her, well, hate her. You know there must be a lot of people in the party who hate the Clintons.
If she thinks she would really have a shot in '12 if Obama loses, then she is just flat out batshit fucking insane. The whole "keep raising money to pay off the debt" thing is about the only thing that makes sense.

It's too fucking weird really. But it will soon be over. And I'm inclined to agree with Digby, I don't think the Dems can lose this November. There is just no way in hell that McCain doesn't step on his dick multiple times between here and November. Let's face it, the guy is a loser. The Republicans are only running him because they had nobody else.

Obama will win the pledged delegate majority May 20. No doubt about it. He'll need fewer than 40 after May 6. He needs only 137 (33%) today.

As Chuck Todd said last night, we already know the pledged outcome. With a lead that big and so few votes left, networks normally call the race. Obama is the winner of the pledged delegates.

So, why, please, can't the super-delegates who are waiting for the pledged outcome stop waiting and speak?

The Edwards campaign manager, and other close Edwards people endorsing Obama yesterday was good news, but really begs the question about old John himself....He is risking irrelevancy here, or may have already achieved it.

What Obama should say: "Hillary can move the goalposts as much as she wants, but all she's doing is kicking fieldgoals when she needs touchdowns."

She needs a touchdown, two-point conversion, on-side kick recovery, and another touchdown, and a two-point conversion, just to get into Overtime....

Dorn76 she needs a plane crash to win the nomination and another to win the general.

At this point I think the SDs are willing to let Clinton completely humiliate herself before they endorse Obama.

I think we may see this go on to other states, even after IN and NC. I think that it will be close in some states and it will get ugly. I don't see her taking a big chunk of delegates, because it is mathematically difficult. She is waiting for Obama to make a mistake so that she can get the super-dels, even those who have gone to him. They will dig up something, just you wait! And even if it's fabricated. The Clinton's will spin, spin, spin. Then throw the Repubs into the mix, the NC Rep. Party leadership kind. We are in for a ride.

Obama needs to remain courageous, smart, take the high-road, but definitely be sharp and fight back with integrity and with substantive issues. He needs to work it, because you know she will.

Meanwhile, online, in the MyBo grassroots community trolls are everywhere, making it hard to get anything done. I encourage everyone to get involved and make phone calls etc. Clinton's element is fighting and she sees this as a fight. She is good at it. However, as president we need a leader who can bring people together and get things done for the good of all Americans, that is why we *need* Obama.

Even if Obama does take IN I don't see her dropping out. Clinton has promised Puerto Rico a vote for independence if they vote for her, come on, what it Obama promised them that? Media won't report on this, just like they didn't report on comments Bill Clinton made post-9/11 at Yale, or the photo of Bill and Wright.

I hope some super-del's act with integrity. And as far as Michigan goes, we need to put that idea to bed. Nobody wanted those voters disenfranchised, but it was the rules. Otherwise this problem will keep occuring. If states have problems with Democratic party rules then they need to change them within their party and work it out, not do selfish, immature action like hold the primary anyways. The Party has to uphold it's own rules or it would be a free-for-all for decades to come.

Hillary Clinton is like the Glenn Close character in Fatal Attraction. The Close character is so obsessed that her goal nearly destroys the family of Michael Douglas. Hillary will destroy the DEM Party before she gives up. It is up to the SDs to end this nightmare. The delegate race is over. She can't win the pledged race. If the SDs overturn what the voters have done, then they will accomplish what Hillary is now doing; destroying the DEM Party. The SDs are the only ones that can save the Party and give the Party an opportunity in November. Each day they wait, the damage mounts up.