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Richardson Spokesman: He Never Said Obama Can't Win
A spokesperson for Bill Richardson is adamantly denying what top Hillary confidantes told Mark Halperin and me this morning.
The spokesperson says that the New Mexico governor never...
(a) Promised not to endorse Obama; or
(b) Questioned Obama's chances in the general election.
"The Governor never promised that he wouldn’t endorse Obama," Richardson spokesperson Pahl Shipley emails me. “The Governor has never questioned Senator Obama’s electability. He believes Barack Obama is the right person to lead this country and he will be America’s next President."
So there you have it.
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Oh, snap. Not a good idea for the Clinton campaign to get embroiled in a veracity-off.
April 3, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
This just in: Clinton campaign denying that Clinton denied telling Richardson that Obama is unelectable:
"That's a no," Clinton, D-N.Y., told reporters at the end of a press conference in Burbank, California, when asked if she made the comment in a private conversation with Richardson.
"We have been going back and forth in this campaign of who said what to whom and let me say this, that I don't talk about private conversations but I have consistently made the case that I can win," she said earlier in the press conference.
Clinton aides now insist the Senator misunderstood the question, asserting the candidate believed she was answering whether or not she would discuss a private conversation.
"I just double checked," Doug Hattaway, Clinton spokesperson told ABC News, "She was saying she was not going to tell (the reporter) about her private conversation."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/03/richardson-denies-saying_n_94988.html
April 4, 2008 1:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
...and this non-story is over.
April 3, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm actually pleased that this story has been so much circulated. It seems to me one more flat-footed mistake on the part of the Clinton folks, because every time they abuse Richardson -- which they've now been doing for how long? -- what most of the public hears is:
RICHARDSON ENDORSED OBAMA
What are they thinking? You'd expect them to have wanted to bury this story with all dispatch. But their wrath against Richardson is so great that getting even with him is even more important than political advantage.
Just imagine what her Presidency would be like.
April 3, 2008 7:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to agree. As dueling spin, this is good for Obama. And the worse the Clintons appear in this fracas, the more it will push the undecided SDs toward Obama. Rather than intimidate it will justify a protest vote against HRC, or motivate a "I dare you to call me a traitor and twist my words when I endorse Obama over you" response. Pretty poor message discipline coming from the Clintons on this.
April 3, 2008 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course he didn't say it.
Was anyone honestly believing he did?
April 3, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whew! I, for one, was on the edge of my seat. The whole primary season was held in the balance.
April 3, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe the Richardson camp! ♪♪♪
It's come down to "faith" here - and I just don't have faith in the clinton folks.
♪♪♪
April 3, 2008 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
No Greg, we "had it" long ago. Only you blathering on with anonymous made-up irrelvance pushed by Camp-Clinton, blather which doesn't even rise to the level of High School BFF fights even gives a rip about this non-story about a non-issue "now have it".
What next, Melissa said that Debbie overheard Kelly talking about Ashley flirting with Tom who everyone knows Paige has a crush on... what a bitch Ashley is for doing that, so therefore John McCain has crossed the CinC threshold?
April 3, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
wait, seriously, Ashley flirted with Tom!?!
Actually I think this brouhaha does matter at least a bit because it's another episode that reveals the character of a campaign, the degree to which it's willing to slash fellow Democrats in a deperate effort to catch up.
April 3, 2008 6:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
ZOMG! Oh noes!
April 3, 2008 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I still fail to see the point of this entire exercise. He wouldn't support Obama unless he actually believed he could win. I could care less whether or not he always held that position. Obama has won over many skeptics. Is the Clinton camp going to argue from now on that they lead amongst voters and superdelegates that "really mean it"?
April 3, 2008 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
"We hold the lead in non-automatic delegates who have not yet endorsed Senator Obama" - Harold Ickes, Howard Wolfson, Mark Penn et al.
April 3, 2008 6:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
O for the love of Pete - Bill, Hillary - get over it!
I'm beginning to feel like they are pitching fits because they weren't voted King and Queen of the Senior Class.
Guys - dignity - please.
April 3, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Richardson is lying and Josh played the race card on the main page and blamed Clinton.
I am seeing an ugly trend here.
It is beyond pathetic Josh.
April 3, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's the gotalife I've come to know. Pushing opinion as conclusive and irrefutable fact. Welcome back.
April 3, 2008 6:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously, what psychotropic drugs are you on?
April 3, 2008 6:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't do drugs like Obama.
He lied about smoking too.
Does he ever tell the truth?
April 3, 2008 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, he never tells the truth. He always lies. Here--I found a website you might like better than this one:
http://www.rnc.org
Go post your tiny little head off.
April 3, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Vintage gotalife! Smell that faux outrage!
Clearly the Clinton campaign and the other trolls had a "sit down" with gotalife. It was being too rationale this morning.
April 3, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey gotalife,
Have you seen this website?
http://bigheaddc.com/category/drugs/
April 3, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey RaeK,
Do a simple google search.
Type: Larry Sinclair.
When you find the 50+ websites that tell you that this loser already took 2 separate lie detector tests and failed both MISERABLY, be sure to get back to us. M'Kay?
Of all the attacks, one side to the other, yours have been by far the worst, this one in particular.
At some point, somewhere deep within ourselves there has to be a line which we don't cross, preventing us from becoming that which we most decry.
You've crossed that line today.
You are to be pitied.
I can only pray that this election cycle goes horribly wrong for you and that you're forced to endure 8 years of peace and prosperity under President Obama.
I hope you are successful as never before, happier than you've ever known happiness.
But deep down I hope you remember this day when you posted swill from a sewer-site trying to pass of gutter-talk as legit news to fellow Democrats. It was at this moment that you stopped deserving the peace and prosperity that the Obama Administration will bring, regardless of your pathetic efforts to prevent it.
April 4, 2008 1:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Hey RaeK,
Do a simple google search.
Type: Larry Sinclair.
When you find the 50+ websites that tell you that this loser already took 2 separate lie detector tests and failed both MISERABLY, be sure to get back to us. M'Kay?"
Apparently, Jaysin, a complex google search was in order. Please see email below I sent to Devvy K.
Ms. Devvy K.
FYI
NEWS WITH VIEWS
WHEN THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OBSTRUCTS JUSTICE
By: Devvy
March 10, 2008
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd348.htm
In above article, you wrote:
"Sinclair also didn't pass a polygraph test which has some very murky under pinnings.
Please see the following:
https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1203681407
“Barland's report makes it clear why Gelb failed to mention the results of any computerized scoring of his polygraph charts. Although Barland, in his non-blinded review agreed with Gelb's hand scoring of the charts, in the one case (regarding the drug allegation) where Barland ran a computerized scoring algorithm on the chart,
contrary to Gelb and Barland's hand-scored finding that Sinclair had failed, the computer determined that he had passed (and with flying colors at that)! Barland writes (at para. 6):”
“I scored the printout of the second series of charts (regarding cocaine), but was not satisfied with the quality of the electrodermal channel on one of the charts. When I received the digital data and optimized the channel, I used the Federal 7 position scale and the 2007 DACA reaction criteria to evaluate the charts. I scored the charts as -7 (Deception Indicated).
I also evaluated the second series using the computer algorithm PolyScore (v. 6.0). It evaluated the charts as No Deception Indicated, and calculated the probabilityof deception as being less than .01 on a scale from .00 to 1.00.
This was inconsistent with my numerical analysis. This is a relatively uncommon occurrence. The DACA guidelines indicate that when there is conflict between the examiner's or reviewer's score and Polyscore, the human score takes precedence. The computer algorithms are considered to be useful supplements, but they are not definitive, I therefore concur with Mr. Gelb's conclusions that Mr. Sinclair showed indications of deception on both test issues.”
“So the PolyScore algorithm (that Ed Gelb so hailed in his polygraph report for Wendy Ellis) found Sinclair truthful with a less than 1% probability of deception! But in this case, Gelb and Barland (who cannot have been unaware of the firestorm of controversy that would have resulted had they found Sinclair non-deceptive with regard to this question) somehow reached a completely opposite conclusion!”
”Gelb did not provide Barland with the computerized data for the examination on Sinclair's sex allegations, and thus he was not able to run PolyScore on them.”
Thank you for your time.
April 11, 2008 9:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
They aren't producing inspiration, creativity or compassion so you don't want to know.
April 3, 2008 9:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude, honestly. Do you really think you can win a "who's the biggest liar" contest between Obama and the frakkin 'Clintons with your half-assed list of slanders and ambiguities?
Christ, even if Barack Obama were the reingoddamncarnation of Baron von Munchhausen himself, I cannot for the life of me understand why a supporter of the President and First Lady for Life of the Democratic Empire would try to start a "who's the biggest liar" contest.
April 3, 2008 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
So we have an identifable Richardson spokesman on record vs the whisperings of some unnamed Clinton surrogate, high-level donor, etc.
And on another note, it looks like the Clinton team is moving the goalposts on PA :
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/politics/17260149.html
April 3, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
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Moveable Goalposts now being offered at a discount to the Clinton Campaign. Buy now, get deferred billing. Don't pay ANYTHING for two months!! Type "Clinton" in the Promotional Code box on your order form.
April 3, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another lie:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/obama-is-smokin.html
April 3, 2008 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Christ, you're a nincompoop. Would you please just go away and donate some money to McCain or something? You're such a Republican troll.
April 3, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
who gives a crap if he smokes? Next you'll be wanting to critique his cholesterol intake.
April 3, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
lol
and you think you change minds here?. or you just try to get people to dislike you , like a masochist??
anyway, have to run...me and hillary are going to fight some snipers.
April 3, 2008 7:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have previously supported Obama, but that was before today. I could never vote for a candidate who smokes. Guess I'll have to vote for McCain.
April 3, 2008 7:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
What are YOU smoking?
April 3, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
hopefully this will bring to a quiet close one of the least interesting and unimportant moments in political history.
And yes, that includes the great Connect Four tie of 1977.
April 3, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Come on people! The Clinton camp is accusing Richardson as a way of making their "private" Rev. Wright/electablility SD talking points public.
April 3, 2008 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
This story demonstrates how Clinton leads by example and it's that kind of leadership this country needs so desperately right now. Oh wait, I'm sorry, I just can't help myself - I just keep mispeaking. Bloody tourettes!
April 3, 2008 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
gotalife's comment surely deserves a "best of" type award.
Josh "played the race card"? If having a very cogent and intelligent discussion of race and voting patterns is "playing the race card" then no one should be ashamed of doing so. Is Josh running for office?
And "Richardson's lying" is a cogent and intelligent argument only for someone of the IQ of the current president.
All in all, a comment that ventures so deeply into the territory of self-parody that it approaches the sublime.
April 3, 2008 6:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is incredibly stupid. Either Halperin is lying or Clinton's aides were lying. It makes ZERO sense that Bill Richardson and Hillary would agree that Obama was unelectable, but Richardson would endorse him anyway. This is just not a credible story at all.
April 3, 2008 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
But now the question is: Now that Richardson has denied he said Obama can't win, will the Clinton campaign deny they said Richardson said Obama can't win?
April 3, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, to me, this was important.
Bill Richardson is a good man who went with his conscience. And he got torn down by the Clinton camp. First by Carville, being called "Judas" just before Easter, and then by whatever Hillary Camp insiders claimed that he lied.
If a Super Delegate who we all thought would go with Obama decided to change his mind and go for Hillary, I'm sure Obama would've simply shrugged, called it "disappointing", followed it up with a statement like, "Well, I still respect so-and-so and if they feel they made the right decision, I'm comfortable with that". He wouldn't deliberately demonize the SD the way that the Clinton Camp has Bill Richardson. That, to me, is important.
April 3, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Bill Richardson repeatedly promised he would not endorse Obama -- and the reason he gave was that Obama wasn't ready -- he couldn't be elected."
I think Bill Richardson repeatedly promised he would not go to a golf course in the Bahamas and that Barack Obama was ready and should be respected.
The Clinton reality prism took it from there.
April 3, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sheesh. The Clintons have sunk really low in calling Richardson a judas and a liar.
April 3, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why was anyone believing the "anonymous Clinton staffers"???
April 3, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mcc:
Close:
Clinton has said that SHE did not says Obama could not win.
Now perhaps this blog/website will stop being quite so uncritical when it comes to every little thing "someone close to the campaign" whispers in the ear (or Halerpin (sp) says was whispered into his ear. What a jerk!).
All noise. All noise. Russert put up his map - cable news held entire segments on the question of the day, this page dutifully passed on the gossip: "Can Obama win???"
Damn: She's good!
April 3, 2008 7:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
This just in: Clinton campaign denying that Clinton denied telling Richardson that Obama is unelectable:
"That's a no," Clinton, D-N.Y., told reporters at the end of a press conference in Burbank, California, when asked if she made the comment in a private conversation with Richardson.
"We have been going back and forth in this campaign of who said what to whom and let me say this, that I don't talk about private conversations but I have consistently made the case that I can win," she said earlier in the press conference.
Clinton aides now insist the Senator misunderstood the question, asserting the candidate believed she was answering whether or not she would discuss a private conversation.
"I just double checked," Doug Hattaway, Clinton spokesperson told ABC News, "She was saying she was not going to tell (the reporter) about her private conversation."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/03/richardson-denies-saying_n_94988.html
April 4, 2008 1:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary is the one that has been telling people that Obama can't win. What makes her claim really really really credible is the fact that Senator Obama is beating her. Who are you going to trust that Winning Obama guy, or Hillary Rambo Clinton, The Heroine of Tuzla, who has an Obama shoe print on the seat of most her ample Pantsuits!
April 3, 2008 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Bill Richardson repeatedly promised he would not go to a golf course in the Bahamas and that Barack Obama was ready and should be respected.
The Clinton reality prism took it from there.
LOLOLOL!
Enough of the diversions - where are the TAX RETURNS???????
April 3, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
They'll release them on tax day... Dubai's tax day.
(Of course, Dubai doesn't collect income tax, so...)
April 3, 2008 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't get the Clinton's thought process behind this. All they're accomplishing is making the Richardson endorsement seem huge. If they'd stop pissing about it the media would have forgotten about it weeks ago.
April 3, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Clinton campaign is making an example of Bill Richardson. It's an attempt intimidate other super delegates who are considering coming out for Barack Obama.
Seriously.
April 3, 2008 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess that makes sense. But do they not see how this is playing out in the media, that it's them who look petty and childish. Do they not have any self-awarene-
Nevermind.
April 3, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tax returns! What tax returns?
We're very busy, you know. Please don't be disrespectful to the former Vice President. Oops, I meant, First Lady. And the omissions, deletions, and disappearences are entirely due to Sen. Clinton's need to provide for the privacy of others and for National Security. So, Hope you're not really holding your breath on this.
April 3, 2008 8:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
All they're going to accomplish is to push more supers to Obama's side of the fence.
The trickle will become a flood.
April 3, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clintons lying again what people say?
And this is a surprise to....who again?
April 3, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why in the HELL did the Clintons raise this issue?
April 3, 2008 9:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, agreed -- my first thought was that this was a gangland hit meant to intimidate the other uncommitted superdelegates to remember their Code of Silence. "See Sonny lying in the road with a zillion bullets in him? Don't let this happen to you.."
But my second thought was, Are they that willing for Hispanics in Pennsylvania to get pissed off at the way Richardson was treated, just to shut up a few SDs?
I hope this backfires big time.
April 3, 2008 11:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
This just in: Clinton campaign denying that Clinton denied telling Richardson that Obama is unelectable:
"That's a no," Clinton, D-N.Y., told reporters at the end of a press conference in Burbank, California, when asked if she made the comment in a private conversation with Richardson.
"We have been going back and forth in this campaign of who said what to whom and let me say this, that I don't talk about private conversations but I have consistently made the case that I can win," she said earlier in the press conference.
Clinton aides now insist the Senator misunderstood the question, asserting the candidate believed she was answering whether or not she would discuss a private conversation.
"I just double checked," Doug Hattaway, Clinton spokesperson told ABC News, "She was saying she was not going to tell (the reporter) about her private conversation."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/03/richardson-denies-saying_n_94988.html
April 4, 2008 1:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
And the madness continues -
By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer Fri Apr 4, 12:26 AM ET
BURBANK, Calif. - Hillary Rodham Clinton appeared Thursday to deny published reports that she told New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson that Barack Obama cannot win the general election. But her campaign aides later said the New York senator had misunderstood the question.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080404/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_delegates;_ylt=Arkbtge1wfuGf2lnNoDLYucEtbAF
April 4, 2008 4:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
I deny that I denied my denials about denying those statements about my denial. Could this be any clearer? I think not.
Now watch while my campaign manager shoots himself - and me - in the foot by taking money from those trying to promote agreements I deny supporting.
April 4, 2008 5:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Way To Go Team Clinton! Let's keep Gov Richardson's endorsement in the news for another cycle!
April 4, 2008 7:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Let's see, you broke this blockbuster story with your stirring "Did So!" story, now you have followed up with a hard-hitting "Did Not!" sequel.
Get this kid a Pultizer.
April 4, 2008 7:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Campaign judo, just using your opponents movements against them. In this case, BO just has to sit back and watch. It is amazing how many times that has happened in this campaign by the supposedly more experienced HRC and the inexperienced BHO...
April 4, 2008 8:17 AM | Reply | Permalink