Penn: "I Am Sorry" For Meeting With Colombian Ambassador
Top Clinton strategist Mark Penn has apologized for meeting on Monday with the Colombian ambassador, as part of his lobbying work for a trade deal that Hillary publicly opposes:
"The meeting was an error in judgment that will not be repeated and I am sorry for it. The senator's well known opposition to this trade deal is clear and was not discussed."
Meanwhile, Ben Smith reports that the Change To Win labor federation, which has endorsed Barack Obama, is calling upon Hillary to fire Penn.
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You cannot pick your family, but you can pick your chief strategist. Just sayin'
April 4, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Mark Penn were my pastor, I mean chief strategist, I would have left his church, I mean consulting firm, a long time ago.
I predict the Bush Administration will brazen it out, just like they always do. Woops! I keep choosing the wrong words today. I meant Clinton campaign, not Bush Administration.
April 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dear Hillary:
All that stuff you said about Austan Goolsbee and NAFTA, even though it was apparently your campaign talking to the Canadians that triggered the whole thing? Looks like another case of the pot calling the kettle black!
April 4, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Full statement of Change To Win here:
April 4, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
The meeting was an error in judgment.
That was exactly Obama was talking about. Judgment beats experience every time.
April 4, 2008 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mark Penn IS sorry:
A SORRY EXCUSE FOR A DEMOCRAT.
April 4, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Penn thinks this is his first or biggest lack of judgment in this race he is more of an idiot that he seems!
April 4, 2008 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary's Bush-like loyalty to obviously unworthy cronies is really pretty disturbing. Even her other top campaign people hate this sleazeball's guts- keeping him around has been 100% her personal responsibility, and she should answer for that.
April 4, 2008 2:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
And after she fires Penn, how about 'firing' Robert Rubin whom, with Bill's help, we can thank for the 1999 repeal of the Glass-Steagel Act.
The more I rehash my memory of the 'Clinton' years, the more I'm convinced that they're Democrats in name only. The political climate in Arkansas when Bill was deciding to run for office probably indicated that he should run as a Democrat. And, voila, they're Democrats.
April 4, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
She already has paid for it. She paid for it with her loss to Obama.
April 4, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, Hillary, watcha gonna do?
"The latest revelation that Penn -- whose firm represents the Colombian government in its effort to secure passage of a so-called free trade agreement -- is actively involved in securing its passage in the middle of Senator Clinton's presidential campaign is outrageous. It also suggests that he has been playing a double role - advising the Senator on what to say to curry Democratic voters and advising the Colombian government on what to say to curry a majority of votes in Congress.
"The vast majority of Americans do not believe that we should be granting preferential trade status to a government that coddles death squads that target union organizers. Colombia remains the most dangerous country in the world for union members, where more than 2,200 workers have been murdered since the 1980s by Colombian death squads for trying to form unions while the government has done nothing to effectively stop the murders. It is time for Penn to go."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Obama_allies_hit_Penn.html
April 4, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am liking all these people admitting they were wrong and apoligizing.
Refreshing.
People calling on him to be fired but give w and cheney a free pass is pathetic.
I guess the only hope to hold w and cheney accountable is the ACLU.
April 4, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
At least he didn't call it a "misstatement."
I'll give him that.
April 4, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, probably he will come out with something stupid like "I mismet".
April 4, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
well, it certainly won't be the Clintons who hold Bush accountable for anything!
I really wonder why you think Clinton will be the best President, gotalife.
April 4, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, because you know us Obama supporters are so soft on Bush and Cheney. Huh?
Do you smell the shit you're shoveling? Just wondering.
April 4, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes but do you reject AND denounce?
April 4, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I bet you are, Penn.
LOLOLOLOLOL - ing myself sick over this one.
April 4, 2008 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's the master of errors in judgement. This is just par for the course. At least he's well paid as he flails along.
April 4, 2008 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is an unnecessary distraction. It is unfortunate to say the least that he has not set aside his consulting work to focus 100% on her campaign. Clinton does not need the negative press about his business activities that conflict with her political goals and policies. I hope that Penn very quickly resigns for the good of the campaign.
April 4, 2008 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Classy and thoughful avatar there, Matthew.
April 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, I found it with an article about how Obama quit smoking for the campaign but has again starting smoking. I think it was reported that this picture was taken at the Capital in December.
April 4, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I saw the same article. I didn't choose to cross his face off and use as an avatar, though. Seek help, Matt.
April 4, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama had a cigarette?!? Oh, dear God--what's next? I suppose we'll find out that he sucks at bowling or something. That's it--I'm switching to Hillary.
April 4, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
He should be fired.
That will send a stronger message and help Hillary. (you can thank me later, Matthew)
April 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
He should be fired. I just hope he isn't.
April 4, 2008 2:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, Matthew, for once, I agree with you. She's got enough distractions already, what with the lying about Bosnia, and the cheap-shot attacks on a fellow Democrat, and the piles of unpaid bills, and the dropping in the polls, and the increase in her negatives, and on and on... On the other hand, will this really make a difference? She loses either way. Maybe it's more compassionate to just end it sooner, before she's had the chance to make a total fucking fool of herself. Oops. Too late.
April 4, 2008 2:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not much good in that campaign.
April 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, this whole mess is most unnecessary. What is of greatest necessity is full and complete fealty to the queen, who is borne from God and blesses us with her wisdom. We need less muckraking from these silly journalists and more groveling for the divine ruler! On your knees, plebes!!
April 4, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Holy shit... Am I agreeing with Matthew Weaver?
April 4, 2008 2:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Only insofar as it's convenient for him to align with reality in this case.
Take a deep breath. It'll likely be months before he makes a sober, lucid comment in this vein again.
April 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
If she fires Penn, she'll have to fire most of her top advisors. They're all equally corporate, anti-union hacks.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070604/berman
April 4, 2008 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh yeah.
For those who don't see this as a big deal, I'd like you to consider one thing. If Penn is both working for Clinton for large amounts of money and also working on behalf of the Colombian government to pass CAFTA, then to unions she is giving business to somebody who is at direct odds to their interests. To them, Penn is an enemy in this and Clinton is giving him and his firm her business.
April 4, 2008 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can the last Clinton staffer please turn off the light?
April 4, 2008 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mark Penn's honesty and integrity have been the cornerstones of Hillary's high-minded,well run campaign.Any call for his resignation by "special interest" groups claiming to represent the "american people" are the unhinged rantings of naive, uninformed,Hillary-hating hope mongers.He has apologized and given his well- regarded word that it won't happen again, so give the guy a break. It's in the best interest of our nation,indeed the world, that he continue in his capacity as one of Sen.Clinton's chief advisers.
April 4, 2008 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please elaborate on how Penn's role in Clinton's campaign serves the "best interest of our nation,indeed the world."
Is his "honesty and integrity" encapsulated in the positions taken by Burson-Marsteller, the PR firm which he heads? And how do criticisms of these positions qualify as "the unhinged rantings of naive, uninformed,Hillary-hating hope mongers"?
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/05/18/1281/
I'd welcome a clearer picture. Thanks, Indepatriot.
April 4, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
You should probably replace the batteries in your snark detector ;)
April 4, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Indiepatriot's post was a snark. Turn on your snarkometer.
April 4, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Noted!
It was actually a fuse that blew, not the batteries!
April 4, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dag,it was indeed snark except the "best interests"part. With this neoCon knucklehead in charge there's no way Hillary gets the nomination,then with a lot of hard work and a little luck,President Obama!
April 4, 2008 4:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
NOOOOO!!!! She CAN'T fire Penn! Not now! This is very bad news for Hillary! Who will be in charge of her Department of Idiotic Bullshit? Oh, wait, Wolfson can handle it. Never mind.
April 4, 2008 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Things have been getting kind of dull in the Obama/Hillary wars of late. Guess it was time for another round of demands for staff firings.
April 4, 2008 2:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wrong! I say Hill should keep Mark Penn in charge of the campaign! After all, he has done such a marvelous job, why change when things are going the way they are planned? Sho some loyalty, HC! Don't let the Obamabots drive away someone who is a real asset!
Truly yours,
Barack Obama
April 4, 2008 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely right. Penn should remain. He's the golden goose in this campaign- a gift that keeps on giving.
April 4, 2008 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
If the unions turn on Clinton because of this, she is in very deep trouble. Not only will she lose valuable endorsements, but the publicity will destroy whatever credibility she has remaining. Yet in a twisted way this incident may be a blessing for her because her campaign will be a 100 times better off if she concedes to demands for Penn's departure.
April 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
and clinton says she's anti-nafta, yah right.
April 4, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, everyone;s being so hard on him. Really it was an easy mistake--he just thought Columbia didn't count.
April 4, 2008 2:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, Columbia matters very much. It's Colombia that doesn't matter. :P
(Well, Columbia, NY and Columbia, OH matter. Columbia, SC not so much.)
April 4, 2008 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is it wrong that Mark Penn totally gives me the willies?
April 4, 2008 2:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
no, something is wrong with you if he doesn't give you the willies.
Clinton's in a tough spot though. If she fires Penn (or he resigns), then people will see her campaign as collapsing anyway.
April 4, 2008 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
If she does not get rid of him, then you know that she sent him to reassure them that she was just lying to the blue collar workers in Ohio and Pantsuitmania, and that she really supports the trade agreement.
Let us see what happens. She is now damned if she does or damned if she doesn't. I think she sent him to deliver a message, and she must be very afraid that if she sacrifices Penn, he might start to talk.
It is now Friday afternoon. Where are the Clinton Tax Records.
April 4, 2008 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
If she does not get rid of him, then you know that she sent him to reassure them that she was just lying to the blue collar workers in Ohio and Pantsuitmania, and that she really supports the trade agreement
I think she is knee deep in this shit given the way Uribe blasted Obama for his trade policies and spared her "trade policies". Bill is quite pally, pally with this Uribe guy and I strongly suspect Hillary sent this bozo to "wink, wink", to quote her own words.
It will be poetic justice indeed if she can't fire him because he knows too much.
April 4, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Penn is the ultimate caricature of the sleazy back alley guy with his hand in your pocket -- hey, hey, watch that hand there, buddy. He's Peter Lorre without the looks.
April 5, 2008 4:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Firstread's take on this another sordid and slimy affair at Clinton camp
The latest revelation that Penn -- whose firm represents the Colombian government in its effort to secure passage of a so-called free trade agreement -- is actively involved in securing its passage in the middle of Senator Clinton's presidential campaign is outrageous. It also suggests that he has been playing a double role - advising the Senator on what to say to curry Democratic voters and advising the Colombian government on what to say to curry a majority of votes in Congress.
April 4, 2008 2:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is GREAT for Hillary!
April 4, 2008 2:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
What was it that Hillary HERSELF said? Oh yes:
"If some of my advisers had been having private meetings with foreign governments and basically saying ignore what I'm saying because it's only political rhetoric … I think it raises serious questions."
April 4, 2008 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mark Penn: I Am Sorry I "Misattended" That Meeting With the Colombian Ambassador
April 4, 2008 2:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I was a little sleep deprived and thought I was talking to people from Columbia, PA.”
April 4, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree.
Don't you listen to them, Hillary! Everyone's entitled to a slip-up. He was probably sleep deprived. And he's your best advisor. Do not give in, Rockygirl. Stand your ground and stand up to these bullies. You need him. We need you to need him.
And besides, Bill, the President for Life of the Democratic Party, declared a cease fire on the demanding for people to be fired thing. So hang on to Penn, you can't win without him. Stand by him, stand by your man.
See if you can get Patti to come back too. You need her back at the helm. Nothing's been right since she left.
Trust me. I have the best interests of the Party and the Country at heart, here.
April 4, 2008 2:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
What he really means;
I am sorry that I got caught meeting with the Colombian Ambassador.
Notice that he does not say that he also opposes the trade deal. He just tells us that Hillary does, but that her opposition was not discussed. That makes his sin far more grievous, because he was meeting with the Ambassador to push for The Trade Deal, and most likely to tell the Ambassador that Hillary is not really against it, but she has to lie to the blue collars suckers in Ohio and Pantsuitmania.
April 4, 2008 2:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
The comment section on the Politico story that Eric Kleefeld linked to includes several tributes to idiotic. Flufferwink is on there too.
My favorites:
"Mark Penn would not have been my CHIEF STRATEGIST!!!!"
and
"Mark Penn, just go on Leno and laugh it off. That makes everything okay."
and
"TAG, Penn, you're Judas now."
and
"scratch $4M from Hillarys debt"
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Obama_allies_hit_Penn.html
April 4, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
and here's a great one from the NYT story:
"those of you who have supported Hillary with contributions should understand that some of your money is now in Mr. Penn’s pocket. He has charged her campaign tens of millions of dollars. And I think, since I support Obama, that Mr. Penn has done a great job (oh my cheek hurts).
— Posted by jeff P"
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/04/clinton-camp-plays-down-penns-outside-work/
April 4, 2008 2:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mark Penn's compensation has been OVER $8,000,000 to date! Hillary Clinton's judgment needs to be questioned...how can she throw that much money at such a buffoon? Heck, Penn is the CEO and boss of senior McCain campaign advisor Charlie Black!
Her loyalists hated the guy. The schizophrenic behavior of the campaign is a direct reflection of the tensions between competing advisors (and Hillary's chameleon-like willingness to be something other than authentic). The highest eschelon of Hillary's campaign is just power hungry to the core with little, if any principles.
April 4, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really hope it doesn't come down to Penn getting fired - his company's cross-association with the McCain campaign has had a certain kryptonite flavor to the HRC supporters i've flipped in the field. Around here at least, he's second only to HRC herself in the Clinton's worst enemy roster.
April 4, 2008 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is ironic that a guy named Penn tried to screw Pennsylvania. Hope Pennsylvania isn't stupid and tears him a new hole. That will be poetic justice.
April 4, 2008 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
brilliant strategy by penn. cuts off tax return talk---maybe for the whole weekend.
April 4, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
sarcasm?
This is WAY worse than tax returns.
This is hypocrisy. This is lying. This is everything Clinton stands for, and everything Obama is against.
April 4, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aw, cut the guy some slack.
With the sleep deprivation plus the sniper fire from the surrounding hills, a guy is going to make a bad decision now and then.
April 4, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
found on http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/
Mark Penn is not - as in the case that Senator Clinton cited on March 3 - an unpaid issues advisor, but, rather, the commander-in-chief of the Clinton campaign: the chief strategist, pollster, message czar, and the highest paid member of her campaign staff.
I can’t remember a presidential campaign in my lifetime in which the top strategist moonlighted for corporate accounts during the heat of the primaries (if that’s really what he was doing with the Colombian ambassador, as claimed: note that the Embassy told the Journal that it didn’t know which hat Penn was wearing). The conflict of interest is staggering.
Al Giordano
April 4, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love the Clinton quote they cite from the NAFTA-gate days:
"I would ask you to look at this story and substitute my name for Sen. Obama’s name and see what you would do with this story… Just ask yourself [what you would do] if some of my advisers had been having private meetings with foreign governments."
April 4, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Guys, I think it's pretty unfair for anyone to beat up on HRC for what Penn did. The problem here, as someone mentioned on another thread, is that Penn isn't an attorney; otherwise, he'd be facing disbarment for conflict of interest.
Penn strikes me as a bit too profit-hungry, but I don't think it's reasonable to beat up on Hillary for engaging him. It's quite possible that Burton-Marsteller showed itself to be very competent when she was shopping around for an adviser.
Really, fellow Obamaniacs: We need to calm down around here. Otherwise, it becomes Penn vs. Kahl vs. Wright vs. Wolfson vs. Power vs. Carville ad nauseam. This needs to stop so that we can focus fire on McSame.
April 4, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't be ridiculous. After all her fake hysteria over NAFTA in Ohio, Obama should forgive and forget ?? Are you nuts ? He should kill her vicious and slimy campaign with this bomb.
April 4, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I don't think people should come to Ohio and tell the people of Ohio one thing and then have your campaign tell a foreign government something else behind closed doors," Clinton said then. "That's the kind of difference between talk and action and that I've been pointing out in this campaign."
"I would ask you to look at that story, substitute my name for Senator Obama," she also said. "If some of my advisers had been having private meetings with foreign governments and basically saying ignore what I'm saying because it's only political rhetoric … I think it raises serious questions."
-- Hillary Clinton, Ohio
"Ahhh... Duuuhhhh.... Hehe..."
-- Hillary Clinton, Pennsylvania
April 4, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Worth every penny
April 4, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
MARK PENN "MISATTENDS" COLUMBIA TRADE MEETING
Reuters
A "sleep deprived" Mark Penn admitted today that he "misattended" a meeting with two Columbian trade representatives, in a clear conflict of interest with his duties as an adviser for the Clinton campaign. "I was sleep deprived," said Penn. "I made a mistake. I'm sorry. It proves I'm human."
Penn later regaled members of the press with a tale of how he was actually hit on the head with a hand grenade during the meeting, and how Hillary will win this race by both opposing CAFTA and assuring its passage if elected president.
Penn said he expects to announce his retirement from the Clinton campaign soon, in order to spend more time with his family.
April 4, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is now Friday afternoon.
Hillary, where are the tax records.
Hillary, where are the tax records.
Hillary, where are the tax records.
April 4, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary's Tax records. 109 million in 7 years !!! No wonder she acts like a repug.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/The_Clintons_taxes.html#comments
April 4, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mark Penn perfectly represent all Hillary stands for. She couldn't ask for a better campaigner-in-chief.
"Yes I take lobbyist money, and yes I'll..."
April 4, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder why the Obama camp hasn't come out with something about this yet.
I suspect they are vetting their own staff for any similar moonlighting activities before coming out with their attacks.
Or maybe they are afraid of getting near NAFTA-gate again by firing the first shot there, since their record isn't all that clean (remember pre-OH).
Or perhaps they are relying on Change to do the dirty work. That might be the best tactic.
But then Change needs to get on CNN and really give it a good spin. People would connect the dots with Bosnia themselves.
And while on it, get some psychologists to talk about the pathology of perpetual lier. Christopher Hitchens had a piece on Slate about that. And also how the pathology snowballs with spousal reinforcement.
Obama needs to get on all the local papers in PA wwith these attacks.
April 4, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
No need for the Obama camp to say anything. The story writes itself. Never get in the middle of the enemy when it has just formed a circular firing squad.
April 4, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
No. Obama does NOT need to be involved at all.
He's the front runner, he can afford to sit back and watch Hillary self destruct. The last thing you need is to give Hillary the chance to play victim again.
April 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
This may already be in the comments above, but here is what HRC had to say during the BS Canadian NAFTA brew ha ha:
"I would ask you to look at this story and substitute my name for Sen. Obama’s name and see what you would do with this story… Just ask yourself [what you would do] if some of my advisers had been having private meetings with foreign governments."
Well, Hillary, you should thank Mr. Penn for giving voters and the media the opportunity to do so. Now, Mr. Penn is a PAID adviser, where Austin Goolsbee is not. More than a paid advider, Penn is the architect of your rather pathetic campaign. He should have been fired long ago, so what's the delay now?
April 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
She has already lost this campaign so there is no need to fire anyone at this late date.
April 4, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are we seeing a Friday night news dump on Clinton tax returns?
April 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
She really needs to can this guy, but it would be a symbolic sacking, he has screwed her over so many ways it's not funny at all.
He also has time to promote his book and do a book tour, besides whoring with clients.
Her judgement in listening to this pig is seriously cast into doubt. What other kinds of greedy pigs will she listen too if she were president?
That's the crux of the problem, never mind his execrable campaign strategy (for her, its worked out quite swimmingly for him I'd say) and the total lack of vision it demonstrated, her judgement is being called into question, andt here really isn't much she can do at this point to change that impression. Except if she fires the creep and somehow wins the nomination, she can say her jedgement has improved and she is surrounding herself with dedicated advisors, as opposed to mammon worshipping advisors.
April 4, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Matthew -
Maybe you should add another column to your table of lies and then we can tally up the totals and whoever has more wins the nomination!
I'm sure you wouldn't have any trouble massaging those numbers! What a brilliant bloody idea! FOR HILLARY!!!
April 4, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
amk for ObamaMajority wrote:
"Don't be ridiculous. After all her fake hysteria over NAFTA in Ohio, Obama should forgive and forget ?? Are you nuts ? He should kill her vicious and slimy campaign with this bomb."
Do you really think it advances the Obama campaign's interest to stoop to the level of the HRC campaign "strategists"? There are enough HRC supporters out there complaining about the "virulence," "fanaticism" and "negativity" of Obama supporters in the blogosphere. We'll need them in November. She may need to pull every dirty trick in the book to win; we don't. Let's not beat up on the candidate for something stupid her campaign manager did.
hrebendorf: Did HRC really say that nonsense about Obama in Ohio? In that case, I'm not sure that it shouldn't be "all bets are off." Beat her up on it a bit.
April 4, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. She really hunger herself.
Check out the last quotes on this story:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/04/penn-calls-trade-meeting-error-in-judgment/
April 4, 2008 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, yeah, she really said it. Nothing like tying a noose around your own neck and handing the other end to the press...
April 4, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Take it easy on Penn people - it's not the money, it's the perks. Obviously, something has to keep the guy going in pursuit of this lost cause and $20 Million a month just ain't gonna pay THAT bill.
April 4, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
so THATS her chief strategy
April 4, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, I lived in Colombia for almost five years in the 60s and it was nothing like this. It was in between civil wars and before the drug cartels gained strength, or perhaps even existed, I don't know. The FARC and other armed rebels were around, but were kept under control for the most part. Kidnappings by the rebels began within the year after we left in 1970.
I've never heard of government sponsored or government condoned death squads. They have had the militant rebels forever and the drug thugs for the last 20-30 years, and have been unable to eradicate them. The drug lords and probably other militants act something like Hamas or Hezbollah in that they provide jobs and social services to the people where they operate and who protect them in turn. Things could have change, of course, and I could have missed reading about the death squad problem. It was a wonderful country back then.
April 4, 2008 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mayur12, I agree that Obama should stay out of this (well, unless asked directly "as far as I know") but some 527 (Move On?) could do "a heck of a job" with this -- and should? Of course, tying it to McCain and Black would be good for after the convention too.
April 4, 2008 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
April 4, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right here - http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/obama_foreign_policy_adviser_r.php - Greg Sargent of TPM EC wrote the following about an Obama campaign official, who went on record saying that 60-80k GIs should remain in Iraq until 2010:
"Obviously, candidates surround themselves with multiple advisers with a range of views about stuff, and can't be responsible for all of them," wrote Greg Sargent.
And then said: "It's unclear right now whether the Hillary camp will try to make an issue of this today."
So where's the outrage about Team Obama making an issue about Mark Penn's meeting with Colombian officials?
Shouldn't TPM EC have written about that meeting: "Obviously, candidates surround themselves with multiple advisers with a range of views about stuff, and can't be responsible for all of them"?
Or are some animals less equal than other animals in the Obama universe (which TPM has clearly become).
April 4, 2008 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has Obama said anything about it?
Please link.
Don't mistake the impassioned bloggers here as the official Obama campaign!
April 4, 2008 10:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!
April 4, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed
April 4, 2008 9:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
How is the media letting Penn and Clinton get away with this? Do you think Columbia was more apt to hire Penn knowing his position with the campaign of the likely Democratic nominee? Hell, the meeting was probably because Columbia was reading the papers and worried that Clinton would lose and therefore wouldn't get the favorable treatment Penn had promised them...
April 4, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Penn is no fool. He knows Hillary is toast and is pursuing more lucrative options while making good face with the Clintons. He is not so sloppy as to have screwed up that badly, he just knows which side his bread is buttered on. In a tough spot, his options were limited.
April 5, 2008 4:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that neither Obama nor his staff should speak out this. But some third party needs to make sure that the people of Pennsylvania know that the candidate who claims to be pro union and labor is being consulted by a sleaze who's playing both sides of the street. The hard working people of this country have been lied to and screwed over long enough.
The people have the right to know. The Founders had a great deal of respect for the common man's ability to make intelligent decisions based on relevant and factual information in their voting choices. Hillary can not be allowed to con the people of Pennsylvania like she did the people of Ohio.
April 5, 2008 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Mark Penn got fired from the Colombian government...
and another lye from Senator Clinton..or rather she mispoke...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/05/clinton-under-fire-over-f_n_95218.html
April 5, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I want to see a political ad infront of PA voters. This could swing the election to Obama in PA if done correctly.
April 5, 2008 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink