Hillary was furious. Simply furious. Furious I tell you. Furious. . . about the Columbia situation blowing up into a big story. But she wasn't furious about the other conflicts of interest and anti-labor lobbying as long as it flew under the radar of everyone but hyper-informed blogging types. Cintas and Blackwater were just fine when it was just us nattering on about it. But when local PA newspapers picked up on Penn's Columbia lobbyig. . . Furious. Simply furious.

The Clintons have always said one thing to low income voters while doing another for their wealthy donors.

People who represent union-busters should not be welcome in the Democratic Party. People who represent death squads targeting trade unionists should not be welcome in the Democratic Party.

Kind of hard to argue with their statement.

Good for them. It will never happen; but it should.

Have you noticed that Clinton always leads on decisions like opposing the Colombian free trade deal and boycotting the Olympics, then Obama finally follows her lead.

Still waiting on his position on the Olympics.

Clinton is the leader and Obama is the follower.

Clinton/Obama, if you want to win.

Ouch, that's gotta smart.

I have to say I see the opinions of a group of unions comprising 6 million members as slightly more persuasive than a letter from 20 or so fatcat donors. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

I don't mind donating a few bucks, if they want to go on air in PA.

Anything to keep Penn away from human civilization.

I must admit that if we're kicking people out of the party, I'd really like to start with Lieberman,

But it's ok with me if Penn is second.

I am not sure it is possible to remove someone from the Democratic party... though I do appreciate the sentiment.......

I am not sure it is possible to remove someone from the Democratic party... though I do appreciate the sentiment.......

It's not.

She followed on the Colombian trade deal (not that that fact would change your "analysis"). As for the Olympics, Obama actually talked about it last week.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23916733/

But again, given your commitment to hatred of all things Obama, I don't think this facts will penetrate your anti-Obama filters.

This should go over well then

Mark Penn Speaks (In Private): Will Still Advise Clintons, Calms Nervous Aides

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/07/penn-speaks-in-private-wi_n_95508.html

For a year, there have been mutterings about Mark Penn and his union-busting activities, and the unions wrote to Clinton last June to complain about him. She blew them off then, assuming they'd come around at election time. Of course, at the time, she didn't dream that she'd actually be a facing a challenge at this point or that the unions would have a viable alternative. Once again, her campaign shows a lack of planning and judgment.

If you're a lowly paid worker sending her campaign $50 monthly, knowing that she made 109 million in 7 years and knowing that the largest line item on her campaign budget is paying Mark Penn, who is also taking 300,000 from a foreign government in a deal that could cost you your job, I don't understand why you would trust and support Hillary.

I believe Nancy Pelosi is the first major politician to come out and say that we should make a statement regarding the Olympics. Clinton didn't lead, she xeroxed.

What did Pelosi say? I haven't seen anything and I think the whole thing should be cancelled.

It's disgusting.

If Mark Penn wants to vote for Barack Obama for president, that's fine with me. But beyond that he needs to sit his fat ass down and shut his filthy pie hole. But, I mean that in a nice way.

Despite the moral stand that "Change to Win" is taking, which I feel deserves attention, this saga isn't really about how things play out in the media, at least at this point.

What's currently in the balance is whether the leadership of seven powerful unions will go from very powerful Obama supporters to very powerful Obama supporters who are also very angry enemies of Hillary Clinton.

It's pretty clear from CtoW's blistering response that the Clinton campaign's musical chairs "demotion" of Mark Penn is not the head on a platter they want.

Now it's Hillary's move. She can lose, or she can lose. (That's not a typing error.)

This is nightmare stuff for the Clinton campaign.

The knees of Clinton's jumpsuits woulda been stained a deep, dark green even without Penn.

I don't even really care all that much anymore about kicking Lieberman out of the party. Really, he's such an empty shell of a man. It can't be easy waking up each day knowing you're a joke.

All I want to know is that the "Kiss" float will show up if he ever runs for anything ever again. And also, that after we gain some more seats in the Senate, he's stripped of all power.