In Pennsylvania Robocall, Obama Surrogate Pushes Back On Criticism Of "Small Town" Comments
The Obama campaign continues its push-back on criticism of his "small town" remarks with this new robocall from a key surrogate, Mayor John Brenner of York, PA.
The call, which was pumped into PA homes today, argues that Obama has "got it right" about the economic frustration and bitterness reigning in hard-scrabble small-town America. Give it a listen...
The Obama campaign has been working to move the debate away from one over his claim that folks "cling to guns or religion," and on to an argument over whether his characterization of the state of mind of the economically anxious is accurate.
In other words, Camp Obama wants the debate to be framed as whether Obama was right to say that voters are "bitter" about their economic circumstances and what caused them, which segues neatly into a debate with John McCain about the GOP's economic policies and what they've wrought. The robocall does this.
One other point: With the Clinton camp arguing to super-delegates that Obama's "small town" comments render him less electable this fall, the Obama camp has another challenge: Signaling that they're taking aggressive steps to deal with the political problem they've got -- without appearing to be worried about it. It seems fair to say that the Obama campaign has thus far succeeded at this.
Full transcript of the robocall after the jump.
Full transcript:
"For decades, washington has ignored us. I'm Mayor John Brenner of York, PA, and I'm calling to tell you that Barack Obama understands us. He's got it right.We are frustrated. Frustrated with polices that enable businesses to leave our communities, pensions to be threatened, health benefits to be taken away and homes foreclosed.
Unlike his opponents, who have been part of the Washington establishment, and are out of touch with us, Barack Obama will change Washington, and its policies that hurt us. He will take on the special interests and fight for us. Join me in voting for Barack Obama, a leader we can trust."















I personally dislike robo calls will people actually listen to this.
April 14, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
All the King's Horses
And all the King's Men
Couldn't Put Humpty Together Again.
Any three-year-old can tell you that.
April 14, 2008 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Let's not talk about why you don't have a job, can't afford health care, or can't send your kids to college; let's talk about gay marriage, school prayer, illegal immigration, and flag burning amendments." - Bill Clinton 1992
April 14, 2008 6:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's comments were in the context of why he is not getting more traction with these voters than Hillary and his new "explanation" is still sorely lacking. Hillary's stances on the hot button moral issues are exactly the same as Obama's. So why is this quote from Bill Clinton about Republicans using family values to distract from real issues even relevant here? Oh yeah - I forgot. Obama is dissembling and trying to use anything to re-interpret his remarks that were not meant for "the masses." His explanation is weak and his failure to address the entirety of his remarks will continue to hurt him.
April 14, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, bittergate keeps rolling along.
Awesome.
April 14, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Let's not talk about why you don't have a job, can't afford health care, or can't send your kids to college; let's talk about gay marriage, school prayer, illegal immigration, and flag burning amendments." - Bill Clinton 1992
April 14, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Amen.
April 14, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's comments were in the context of why he is not getting more traction with these voters than Hillary and his new "explanation" is still sorely lacking. Hillary's stances on the hot button moral issues are exactly the same as Obama's. So why is this quote from Bill Clinton about Republicans using family values to distract from real issues even relevant here? Oh yeah - I forgot. Obama is dissembling and trying to use anything to re-interpret his remarks that were not meant for "the masses." His explanation is weak and his failure to address the entirety of his remarks will continue to hurt him.
April 14, 2008 7:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why is this relevant? Because Clinton has been running a largely Republican-line campaign, doing McCain's work for him. Yes, she has been distracting rural Americans from the issues which matter to them -- with bogus Republican ideas like the "commander in chief threshhold", with the "3 AM phone call" ad, and so on.
When Obama notes that the Republicans are trying to distract people from the issues that matter with hot-button "cultural" issues, he's avoiding saying outright that Hillary Clinton is distracting people using the same tactics as Bush and McCain did -- using the phony "war on terror" instead of the cultural issues. Why is he avoiding saying that, since it's true? Because he doesn't want to hurt a fellow Democratic candidate if he doesn't have to.
How's that for an explanation, dijamo?
April 14, 2008 9:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
But Obama's not raising the war on terror in his comments - so how is that an explanation for his insulting and condescending comments? I don't understand why if he's comments are so inoffensive, neither he nor his campaign nor his supporters are willing to defend them on what he actually said. They keep raising all these irrelevant side issues that are not what he said in his speech. How's that neroden?
April 14, 2008 9:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well I'm not big on robocalls either, but I do like the way his campaign handles these things - they usually don't just spend time with Obama answering Clinton over and over for he said she said. They usually someone or even a few someones who are somehow associated with whatever smear Clinton is trying to straighten people out on it.
People screamed bloody murder at Kerry for not fighting back. Obama does. And his team does it very intelligently.
April 14, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Josh - I don't what to do with these comments appearing immediately like this - wow!
Thanks
April 14, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
That robot is not a bitter e-litist, as far as I know.
April 14, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, your analysis is 100% correct. This latest is a continuation of the Obama camp's attempt to change the focus from the issue of Obama's attitude toward the working class to a debate over whether or not they are angry. We shall know soon enough if the people of Pennsylvania fall for it. As a former Pennsylvanian myself, I really don't think they will.
Listening carefully to Obama, and particularly reading the blogs, one comes up repeatedly against the elitist attitude that those who support Hillary are stupid and unable to recognize manipulation. It is not only false. It is arrogant and unattractive.
April 14, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Let's not talk about why you don't have a job, can't afford health care, or can't send your kids to college; let's talk about gay marriage, school prayer, illegal immigration, and flag burning amendments." - Bill Clinton 1992
April 14, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Otto, you don't strike me as someone with an advanced degree in psychology or an intimate knowledge of Barack Obama's thoughts. Please share with us this wonderful insight on what Obama "really thinks" about small town America. Please tell us whow Hillary "109 million in 8 years" Clinton is so deeply in touch with the feelings and hardships of the working man.
And then, tell all of us the name of your dealer.
April 14, 2008 6:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do not think her voters cannot recognize manipulation. I think they value it. They think the truth cannot win so they want the nastiest campaigner in the world to lead the Democratic ticket. Not that any of that matters since she has already lost this campaign. It is all over except the crying.
April 14, 2008 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Otto, I think you might be a bit confused...I suspect you meant to say that PA folks won't get fooled by the Clinton spin on Obama's accurate assessment of the economic and political situation. You are right that Clinton is far more the elitist (I assume you meant Hillary, the ex-Republican duck-hunting DC insider who enjoyed a $109 million income the last decade), and that is perhaps why recent polling is indicating a loss of support, including from White women. That's why she's already lost the nomination...but all this bruhaha is giving Obama more of a chance to get people to know him...which, as we've seen, they more they do, the more they like him. Sincerity, humility, and intelligence tends to do that. :)
April 14, 2008 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, we all know how credible you are, Otto.
April 14, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess the well-managed finances of the Obama campaign are really coming in handy at this point, aren't they?
As for the people of Pennsylvania falling for anything? I think Otto is right. They won't fall for Hillary the Huntress, Hillary escaping from sniper fire, Hillary "I'm not bitter", Bill "We're not bitter", or any of that.
They might be interested in the fact that Dan Rooney thinks highly enough of Obama to support him and that Bob Casey thinks highly enough to support him.
You know what else? They might realize that despite the blaring from the Clinton/Republicans/Fox crowd (and Otto, you're part of that crowd, let's face it), Obama actually had a good point.
April 14, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope this Brenner guy is popular.
That call sounded HORRIBLE.
And, I won't presume to know what PA people are thinking, but I'd hazard a guess they are SICK of this right now, and really don't want to hear a robocall about it.
April 14, 2008 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure a robo-call will help mend fences and connect to PA voters.
April 14, 2008 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
SUSA: Clinton Holds 16-Point Lead in Indiana
Please join C&L and the ACLU to tell your members of Congress: Don’t Look the Other Way on Torture:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/04/14/please-join-cl-and-the-aclu-to-tell-your-members-of-congress-dont-look-the-other-way-on-torture/
April 14, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can we complain about your torturous posts?
April 14, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Troll:
You do understand, I hope, that ACLU does not stand for:
Addled Clinton Lovers Unite.
April 14, 2008 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually I believe Hillary made issue of the "bitter" remark, which was probably a mistake on her campaign's part as it gave Obama an out (of sorts) that we are seeing now.
April 14, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're right about that. Hillary has ridden the "we're not bitter" schtick right into the ground.
April 14, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
She was just showing off her lack of political skill again.
April 14, 2008 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's arrogant and unattractive is the sight of a multimillionaire, corporate lawyer posturing as the friend of the working class by waving her gun around and slamming shots. Who was the community organizer on the streets of Chicago? Who served on the board of WalMart? AS Keats used to say, "that is all ye know, and all ye need to know..."
April 14, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's not go there. She can play the "who got fired from a fish cannery for trying to organize her fellow workers? or "whose spouse served on the Walmart vendor's board of directors?" and then we'll never get to discussing the here and now issues.
April 14, 2008 11:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
According to an interview on the Wall Street Journal Blog site today, Quinnipiac head Pollster Clay Richard says that "Bittergate" has not affected the race in Pennsylvania. He says he's seen no change in numbers in his polling since last week and when the poll is released tomorrow, he expects it to be little different from last week's poll, which had Clinton ahead by 6 poings.
April 14, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's losing poings every day. I'm not worried.
April 15, 2008 1:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sure I'm bitter...bitter about Clinton's millions, McCain's beer heiress trophy wife, Obama's boyish good looks and gift of gab.
Then there's the bitterness I have about the billions CEO's have accumulated and spend on crazy luxuries life Lear jets, and 400 million dollar yachts, and Bush's insane war which will cost 3-5 trillion and, yes, I'm bitter because I can just about afford my cat food diet and now I worry that Purina might be bought out by some hedge fund. But don't mourn for me, organize.
Heck, I'm bitterness incarnate. But, I decided to move on. I started a group supporting Obama for president. It's called "Bitter People for Obama." Bitter as I am, I think he would be the best president ever.
April 14, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Got a link for that group? I would like to join.
April 14, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well there's:
Bitter Voters for Obama
April 14, 2008 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. That was quick.
April 14, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meow!
April 14, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meow!
April 14, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's some fairly good news for Obama:
From Wall Street Journal Blog: "Is Clinton's Pennsylvania Lead Really Twenty Points ?"
Other pollsters’ numbers disagree with ARG’s. Clay Richards, who runs the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute’s Pennsylvania poll, said he doesn’t expect his poll that will be published Tuesday to show much difference from the last one, which had a Clinton lead of six points. “I don’t see that much movement in Pennsylvania myself,” Mr. Richards said by phone from Harrisburg on Monday. He declined to comment specifically on his rival’s contradictory numbers.
April 14, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am not one of the Elite. That is why I should never become President.
I want some one who is among the best and the brightest to lead the nation. In other words; someone with Elite qualifications. Hillary says that she does not meet those requirements, so you should only hire her if you crave more of the same:
"Some one you would like to have a beer with"
Well you got him folks, for the past seven years. How has that worked out for you.
Hillary, Shot and a Beer, Clinton is running for Bush's third term.
Hillary thinks that the American Voters are so stupid that they will keep falling for the same Bullshit over and over.
Will you? Hillary believes that you will.
Are you really craving for George W. Bush in a Kevlar, sniper defying, Pantsuit!!!!
April 14, 2008 6:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
April 14, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just heard from Politico.com that the Clinton attack ad on the Obama "bitter" comments will feature outraged PA voters.
April 14, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
where was that?
April 14, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right here.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Clinton_airing_cling_attack.html
April 14, 2008 6:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
And this is Penn's handiwork, Greg.
April 14, 2008 6:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
And Clinton supporter extraordinaire, Ed Rendell, just said:
http://thepage.time.com/
April 14, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rendell really seems to be hedging his bets on Obama. I suspect it's because Rendell voters are more likely to be Obama voters, whereas Casey voters are more likely to vote for Hillary. Go figure.
That, and, sorry to sound like a broken record, lots of people in Pennsylvania are really and truly bitter. There are criticisms to be made of Obama's comments, but going crazy with the Republican talking points as Hillary is doing is just nutty. Really, I watched the video of her speech and it was just so false sounding -- getting in the dig about SF donors (as if Clinton doesn't hold invitation only donor conferences).
Seriously, I am not a Clinton supporter, I do admit, but I did grow up in Western Pennsylvania, and this is just not the way to reach people.
April 14, 2008 6:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is this the same Ed Rendell who was so condescending that he said that many in his state were to racist to vote for a black man, but whose campaign he is supporting has the chutzpah to say that Obama is an elitist because he dared point out the obvious that PA voters are bitter about having their economy decimated and tired of distractions about GOP divisive politics of screaming about Dems being gun grabbing, gay marrying, etc.?
That same Rednell who said that the voters in PA are too bigoted to vote for a black man because he is black?
Hmmm. Me thinks the attempts to project and distract are once again rearing it's head from Camp Clinton (aka Hillaryland).
April 14, 2008 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think that "Cling" ad is going to backfire. She's been hammering on this one note issue for the last four days and she needs to find something new to hammer away at OBama with. The primary is eight days away and this "controversy" will have faded by then. If the Wright thing didn't have any lasting effect on Obama's numbers, then you can be sure that this one won't either. Hence, he has gone up in National polls and it appears from a new Quinnipiac poll out tomorrow that he hasn't been hurt by Bittergate. Head Pollster Clay Richard says Bittergate has not damaged Obama's numbers.
April 14, 2008 6:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
In that same WSJ article, Bennett of the ARG 20-pt. poll also says that "bittergate" had no real impact.
April 14, 2008 6:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
See, Bill Clinton knew the right way to say the same thing.
April 14, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
yes, he did. He said it better - but he did say it. Hell, books have been written on this subject. It is one of the major issues before the Democrats and has been for years. And she just belittled the shit out of it and has officially caused me to despise her utterly because she did.
April 14, 2008 6:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary is flailing. She's throwing mud, helter-skelter, in hopes that some of it will stick. And so many of us are treating the mud as if it were top-soil. If we don't shut up about it, it will become so.
April 14, 2008 6:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm mad as hell at what Hillary is doing right now.
Not only is she working overtime hardening voters against Sen. Obama, her behavior is turning thousands of people off the Democratic party, people that had given up on politics, but that because of Sen. Obama came under the tent and dared to believe that the Democratic party could be once again the party of ideals, the party of the people, the party that doesn't just play politics to win at all costs.
That the DNC leaders are letting this go one ONE MORE SECOND is reprehensible.
And you just have to see this:
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1jm.htm
April 14, 2008 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, that was really uncalled for. At the very least, you could have posted a warning: Disturbing visual image, coming right up! The picture of those two is now stuck inside my brain. Thanks, pal.
The story isn't all that surprising, is it? Of course Obama is getting hammered by all sides...Fox wants Clinton, McCain wants Clinton, Republicans want Clinton.
Unfortunate that Clinton thinks that this is support.
April 14, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for freaking, I went right to it and found my avatar (at last). It probably doesn't work very well, but oh, hell.
April 14, 2008 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I will go ahead and add this avatar to one of many of Hillary's.
April 14, 2008 10:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I Predict:
After President Obama has just completed delivering his first Inaugural Address, From her home on Elba, Senator Hillary Rambo Clinton, The Heroine of Tuzla, issues a statement that reads:
Inaugural Addresses are just words; I demand that President Obama come to Elba and debate me on the issues that all the ecstatic unemployed, god and gun loving, people of small town America really care about.
April 14, 2008 6:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm mad as hell at what Hillary is doing right now.
Not only is she working overtime hardening voters against Sen. Obama, her behavior is turning thousands of people off the Democratic party, people that had given up on politics, but that because of Sen. Obama came under the tent and dared to believe that the Democratic party could be once again the party of ideals, the party of the people, the party that doesn't just play politics to win at all costs.
That the DNC leaders are letting this go one ONE MORE SECOND is reprehensible.
And you just have to see this:
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1jm.htm
April 14, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
PA resident here...
Just want to say that we received that Robocall about 2 days ago. We already think that what he said was right on the money and the firestorm over this completely manufactured so we didn't bother to listen to the whole thing.
Anyway, just wanted to point out that it's been out for longer than just today.
April 14, 2008 6:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who are you and what have you done with Greg?
;-)
Thanks for pointing this out.
April 14, 2008 6:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, you get a lot of grief from posters and I appreciate that you seem to take it in stride and even consider the validity of the points people make. I think you sometimes (not in this case) make too big of a deal over small points (even how you pointed out that the Steeler's owner's endorsement was largely boilerplate -- who cares?) but overall I'd say you are impartial when it comes to this election. You are opinionated, sure, but I honestly don't know which candidate you support - although I know you are accused of supporting Hillary by some who post here - and that is a good thing. I guess that makes you "impartially opinionated". I hope you like it.
April 14, 2008 6:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, do I hate robocalls. What's that? Obama's doing them? Wow, I love robocalls.
April 14, 2008 6:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
New Hillary commercial. Note that it does not mention the word 'bitter.'
April 14, 2008 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Man, it's too late.
The scandal's already called "bittergate."
It's not called "clinggate." Clinton emphasized the more easily defensible of Obama's remarks, and that's what she's got the talking heads repeating.
A surprising amount of good fortune for Obama.
April 14, 2008 6:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for a report from the real world. It's very helpful once inawhile.
Comments boards are hothouses.
April 14, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I snarked at Greg the other day, too, and then I felt bad about it. I wasn't really upset with Greg - I was upset with the circumstances - I didn't know what to say about the post and blamed that on Greg.
LOL!!
comments boards are very interesting places.
April 14, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Personally, I hate robo-calls from any candidate!! When Virginia's primary rolled around, I got two robo-calls from McCain's camp (Lord knows why), four from Hillary's peeps, and none from Obama. Someone from his campaign actually knocked on my door--how refreshing! I was already committed to him, but the fact that I DIDN"T get a robo-call from Obama made me even happier to vote for him. I don't anyone who even bothers to listen to robo-calls, other than paid analysts. In my book, they're a waste of money at best and an off-putting annoyance at worst.
April 14, 2008 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I got robocalls from the Clintons - it was a recording of Bill, and too long, of course, over and over before the primary here. I got exactly one from Obama the day before.
I actually listened all the way through to Bill, just cause I like his voice. I'd already voted - I voted early. I also listened all the way through to Obama's - I wanted see what they were saying.
It wasn't so bad.
April 14, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama should stay on this issue all week. When your opponents throw punches leading with the jaw, go for the KO. The media loves a simple controversy and will keep covering it. He'll win. This is Obama "there you go again" moment.
Keep calling out Hillary "Annie Oakie" Clinton for playing political games, and link that to her overall phoniness on issues ranging from NAFTA, to Bosina snipers.
His talk to the Steel workers was brilliant and hilarious. That's exactly what he should be doing all week. Calling Hillary out for being a pandering phony who votes the other way when it counts.
April 14, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
You obviously don't understand that Otto F. and Matthew Weaver have looked into Obama's eyes and peered into his soul, much like our Decider did with Pooty-Poot, and all that they have seen there is dark and disturbing and troubling, very troubling.
Only they can decode the true meanings of what Obama says and devine the real meaning of what he does, for they are truly gifted with an insight beyond the reach of ordinary men. The rest of us, lacking their psychic powers, are just deluded, naive fools who they are trying to enlighten before it it too late. Alas, however, we scorn their wisdom and heedlessly continue to follow Obama, truly one of the worst human beings who ever lived, to complete disaster.
Alas that no prophet is appreciated in his own country.
April 14, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is Gandhi no one? Is Mandela no one? Is Mother Teresa no one? I know that you have declared Obama the second coming, but come on.... SOME PERSPECTIVE PLEASE.
April 14, 2008 7:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
From a Canadian.
I listened to Senator Obama speak and it seemed that he was making it up as he went along. And then his truthful remark gets a dozen pre-packaged attacks from Senator Clinton. When I heard her using Obama's comment as a prelude to evangelizing about "her faith" I thought it was repulsive.
April 14, 2008 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it should be called "The 'Bitter' Argument". It is catchier and I'm tired of the suffix "gate" for anything remotely controversial.
April 14, 2008 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you look at the Pennsylvania numbers at Pollster, Hillary's numbers are still falling and Obama's are still rising. Hillary just doesn't campaign well.
April 14, 2008 7:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
(-.-)(_ _)(-.-)
[I find I have to translate this: it is a Japanese smiley and it means I bow in your direction because you just said something brilliant I wish I'd said.]
April 14, 2008 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
HusseinTenaX,
Thought you might be interested to know what a self identified conservative Republican senior partner in a law firm here in Austin had to say when I was driving him to the Airport in my for hire charter van -he said - as we were discussing politics like we always do -he said that he was so disgusted with the present state of affairs that he would be voting for Obama- he cited the illegal occupation of iRAQ, the politicalization of the DOJ , the weak dollar , the lack of accountabilty for the sub prime speculators for starters . Then this very senior partner said heck even us rich old lawyers are bitter too - and he fully appreciated Obama being on point about all the bitterness out here in our body politics !
April 14, 2008 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Al in Austex - Yeah, I hear that a lot too, and I've said the same thing about what people have told me here in Dallas.
It's damned ironic, cause in '02 and '03, I was literally being chased on the streets usually by guys who tried to run me off the road, and at the least rolled down their windows and yelled at me for my anti-Bush and anti-war stickers. A guy followed me into a restaurant and yelled at me once. One on a bicycle chased me through Highland Park until he caught me at a light, so he could pull up next to me and scream at me.
Then all the yellow ribbons and W stickers started disappearing...
April 14, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
by the way - anyone who wants me to kiss and make up with Republicans right now is going to be disappointed.
I was abused for years as I watched the one thing I really love - the constitution - being abused, and I find I'm not going to forgive that easily.
Not that I'm not willing to work with them - just don't expect me to worry about their precious feelings. Sorry.
April 14, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
HusseinTenaX
Nope there will be kissing & making up with the
Turdblossoms acolytes. They have used and abused lADY Liberty & our Constitution far too long for any kissin & making up . You can feel it down here in Texas - we are just fixin to hand'em back there neocons asses on a platter - if we could just please get the Clintons to fade into the glimmering sunset
April 14, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remember the Summer of 96 how third-parties destroyed Dole? That's gotta happen now.
April 14, 2008 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Geez are Robocalls annoying. Thank you Obama :) A commercial to keep this gaffe alive? Thank you Hillary :)
I'm digging this in McCain land!
Nate Peele
http://thatsrightnate.wordpress.com/
April 14, 2008 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Listen to Obama's "bitter" comment
using the language he used in 11/07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oGF3cyHE7M
Is he an "out of touch elitest"?
April 14, 2008 9:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. I feel it too - it's amazing.
April 14, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, that clip is actually from 2004.
Which, to me, gives Obama's statements depth and honor. He has been thinking about the disenfranchised for some time. He was raised as one.
If you missed the clip, it's here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oGF3cyHE7M
April 14, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've gone from a Hillary supporter to someone who will donate to her Democratic challenger when she loses this election and decides to rerun for her Senate seat. Chalk it up to bitterness.
April 15, 2008 12:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
"I don't understand why if he's comments are so inoffensive, neither he nor his campaign nor his supporters are willing to defend them on what he actually said." Of course he's defended what he actually said, on more than one occasion. Surely you didn't miss this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc9PepjyDow
The "...cling to guns, religion...(etc.)" bit was obviously referring to ISSUES, not God Himself or literal guns. Clinton is being intellectually dishonest and condescending to pretend she doesn't get that. Old quotes from her husband would suggest he agrees with Obama.
April 15, 2008 7:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Robocalls don't work.
As I testified in the US Senate 2.27, the only third party study (Brookings, GOTV by Green and Gerber) showed that robo calls had NO impact.
These calls are an epidemic and are invading the privacy of All American Voters.
Our members are taking a stand and saying enough is enough at the National Political Do Not Contact Registry at StopPoliticalCalls.org.
Here is a quote from a member this morning:
"I find it very frustrating... I tend to get calls at the WORST time. I have a one year old daughter, and it NEVER fails that the phone will ring when I put her down for a nap or for bed. Also my vote is PRIVATE... so who do you think you are calling with a survey to find out who I am voting for!!! Stop calling me."
Regards,
Shaun Dakin
CEO and Founder
http://www.stoppoliticalcalls.org
April 15, 2008 8:33 AM | Reply | Permalink