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Obama: Our Politics Should "Live Up" To Martin Luther King's Legacy

In Indiana this morning, Obama gave a speech marking the 40th anniversary of the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr.

One interesting bit: Obama brought up his recent speech on race relations, and drew an implicit link between King's lofty goals and his own call for a bigger politics...

Part of the problem is that for a long time, we’ve had a politics that’s been too small for the scale of the challenges we face. This is something I spoke about a few weeks ago in a speech I gave in Philadelphia. And what I said was that instead of having a politics that lives up to Dr. King’s call for unity, we’ve had a politics that’s used race to drive us apart, when all this does is feed the forces of division and distraction, and stop us from solving our problems.

That is why the great need of this hour is much the same as it was when Dr. King delivered his sermon in Memphis.

Obama also emphasized an oft-overlooked aspect of King's legacy -- his battle for economic justice -- and put it in the context of our present problems. Full text of speech after the jump.

As Mike said, today represents a tragic anniversary for our country. Through his faith, courage, and wisdom, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. moved an entire nation. He preached the gospel of brotherhood; of equality and justice. That’s the cause for which he lived – and for which he died forty years ago today. And so before we begin, I ask you to join me in a moment of silence in memory of this extraordinary American.

There’s been a lot of discussion this week about how Dr. King’s life and legacy speak to us today. It’s taking place in our schools and churches, on television and around the dinner table. And I suspect that much of what folks are talking about centers on issues of racial justice – on the Montgomery bus boycott and the March on Washington, on the freedom rides and the stand at Selma.

And that’s as it should be – because those were times when ordinary men and women, straight-backed and clear-eyed, challenged what they knew was wrong and helped perfect our union. And they did so in large part because Dr. King pointed the way.

But I also think it’s worth reflecting on what Dr. King was doing in Memphis, when he stepped onto that motel balcony on his way out for dinner.

And what he was doing was standing up for struggling sanitation workers. For years, these workers had served their city without complaint, picking up other people’s trash for little pay and even less respect. Passers-by would call them “walking buzzards,” and in the segregated South, most were forced to use separate drinking fountains and bathrooms.

But in 1968, these workers decided they’d had enough, and over 1,000 went on strike. Their demands were modest – better wages, better benefits, and recognition of their union. But the opposition was fierce. Their vigils were met with handcuffs. Their protests turned back with mace. And at the end of one march, a 16-year old boy lay dead.

This is the struggle that brought Dr. King to Memphis. It was a struggle for economic justice, for the opportunity that should be available to people of all races and all walks of life. Because Dr. King understood that the struggle for economic justice and the struggle for racial justice were really one – that each was part of a larger struggle “for freedom, for dignity, and for humanity.” So long as Americans were trapped in poverty, so long as they were being denied the wages, benefits, and fair treatment they deserved – so long as opportunity was being opened to some but not all – the dream that he spoke of would remain out of reach.

And on the eve of his death, Dr. King gave a sermon in Memphis about what the movement there meant to him and to America. And in tones that would prove eerily prophetic, Dr. King said that despite the threats he’d received, he didn’t fear any man, because he had been there when Birmingham aroused the conscience of this nation. And he’d been there to see the students stand up for freedom by sitting in at lunch counters. And he’d been there in Memphis when it was dark enough to see the stars, to see the community coming together around a common purpose. So Dr. King had been to the mountaintop. He had seen the Promised Land. And while he knew somewhere deep in his bones that he would not get there with us, he knew that we would get there.

He knew it because he had seen that Americans have “the capacity,” as he said that night, “to project the ‘I’ into the ‘thou.’” To recognize that no matter what the color of our skin, no matter what faith we practice, no matter how much money we have – no matter whether we are sanitation workers or United States Senators – we all have a stake in one another, we are our brother’s keeper, we are our sister’s keeper, and “either we go up together, or we go down together."

And when he was killed the following day, it left a wound on the soul of our nation that has yet to fully heal. And in few places was the pain more pronounced than in Indianapolis, where Robert Kennedy happened to be campaigning. And it fell to him to inform a crowded park that Dr. King had been killed. And as the shock turned toward anger, Kennedy reminded them of Dr. King’s compassion, and his love. And on a night when cities across the nation were alight with violence, all was quiet in Indianapolis.

In the dark days after Dr. King’s death, Coretta Scott King pointed out the stars. She took up her husband’s cause and led a march in Memphis. But while those sanitation workers eventually got their union contract, the struggle for economic justice remains an unfinished part of the King legacy. Because the dream is still out of reach for too many Americans. Just this morning, it was announced that more Americans are unemployed now than at any time in years. And all across this country, families are facing rising costs, stagnant wages, and the terrible burden of losing a home.

Part of the problem is that for a long time, we’ve had a politics that’s been too small for the scale of the challenges we face. This is something I spoke about a few weeks ago in a speech I gave in Philadelphia. And what I said was that instead of having a politics that lives up to Dr. King’s call for unity, we’ve had a politics that’s used race to drive us apart, when all this does is feed the forces of division and distraction, and stop us from solving our problems.

That is why the great need of this hour is much the same as it was when Dr. King delivered his sermon in Memphis. We have to recognize that while we each have a different past, we all share the same hopes for the future -- that we’ll be able to find a job that pays a decent wage, that there will be affordable health care when we get sick, that we’ll be able to send our kids to college, and that after a lifetime of hard work, we’ll be able to retire with security. They’re common hopes, modest dreams. And they’re at the heart of the struggle for freedom, dignity, and humanity that Dr. King began, and that it is our task to complete.

You know, Dr. King once said that the arc of the moral universe is long, but that it bends toward justice. But what he also knew was that it doesn’t bend on its own. It bends because each of us puts our hands on that arc and bends it in the direction of justice.

So on this day – of all days – let’s each do our part to bend that arc.

Let’s bend that arc toward justice.

Let’s bend that arc toward opportunity.

Let’s bend that arc toward prosperity for all.

And if we can do that and march together – as one nation, and one people – then we won’t just be keeping faith with what Dr. King lived and died for, we’ll be making real the words of Amos that he invoked so often, and “let justice roll down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”


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I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

The most important reason to elect Obama is not his stance on particular issues. It is because he demonstrates what the potential of political discourse could really be.

It's a shame that King's fight for Economic Justice is somewhat lost to popular history.


King was truly an American Hero!

Thank you for posting the full text of the speech. I also look forward to the full text of Clinton's and McCain's speeches as well.

Hillary speech is happening now on CNN. It speaks to many of the same points.

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The most important reason to elect Obama is not his stance on particular issues. It is because he demonstrates what the potential of political discourse could really be.

That's definitely part of it for me, too. It's not all of it, but it's a big part because the last 8 years have been a nightmare of negative appeals to Americans. The Repugs have constantly appealed to what is worst in us and I'm sick of it. I'm so ready for a leader who will appeal and awaken what is best in America again.


An important day to remind people that King, in the less celebrated part of his career--his last years--had very harsh words to say about America.

The sermon he was to preach the Sunday before he was killed was entitled "Why America May Go To Hell."

In his anti-Vietnam speech, he called America mass-murderers.

Still dangerous territory forty years later, as we've recently seen.

It's time we embrace and teach this aspect of his legacy as well, so that one day, we might recognize that anger and disappointment are not unpatriotic emotions. And that Dissent is the foundation upon which this country was created. It is inseparable from Democracy, and is our great legacy.

Hear, hear.

Even Bill Maher couldn't believe that MLK said stuff like that.

We have a bad habit in America of glorifying the past.

I greatly prefer his words over the absence of them.

Clinton is speaking now.

Sad and somber showing respect for a great man.

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And if MLK ran against her in a national election, he'd get the kitchen sink too.

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This is the man who can use the presidency to call all of us to the best that is within us, as a country and as individuals.

Thank you, Senator, for a speech worthy of the man and worthy of yourself and worthy of us, your fellow citizens.

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It's time we embrace and teach this aspect of his legacy as well, so that one day, we might recognize that anger and disappointment are not unpatriotic emotions. And that Dissent is the foundation upon which this country was created. It is inseparable from Democracy, and is our great legacy.

I agree. There's no way to keep fading everything - let's really look at who we are, where we've been and where it is we think we want to go because apparently there is huge disconnect between what people will say face to face and what they will admit publicly and personally, I'm sick of the double, triple, quadruple standards.

But not right now - he has time when he has the nomination and then when he's elected. If he can move us off this starting line we've been stuck on since 1865, then maybe we can make some progress. We've gone backwards now for about 10 years in all areas of human rights - all areas and we are not angels, we are not saints, we are not somehow inherently more generous, kind and giving and tolerant than people in other countries.

The problem here is American Exceptionalism - this Jerusalem on the Hill attitude is what kills us. We have to be honest with ourselves.

I hope you post Clinton's speech too.

It is very good but MSNBC cut her off several times.

CNN is still showing it.

Go figure.

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What a hoot! You feign reverence for King in your comments here, but your avatar is a weak attempt to smear King's living breathing legacy today with sort of guilt-by-association, veiled racist attack. (If you weren't who you are, the avatar might be fine, but you are who you are and you use it negatively.)

GotaLife, scroll back up to jweb271's comment about Kings last sermon and then hang your head in shame.

Shame on you. Change your avatar or stop pretending you give a damn about MLK and his legacy.

My sentiments exactly. It's funny to me how people point to MLK as the "good harmless Black man" and Wright as "mean scary evil Black man" when they both spoke about the same things.

It just goes to show the lazy stupidity that plagues our society when so many people get their information through talking points rather than their own research. I'm sure Dr. King is rolling over in his grave with the way Wright and Trinity has been crucified in the media. He had to endure the same treatment that Wright did for speaking out against injustices except he paid the ultimate price with his life.

Yet 4 decades later and the same lack of respect and ability to speak out against wrongs in this country as a Black man still exist.

Hear, hear.
Disingenuous troll.

I'm glad goatlife is using that picture as his avatar. There's nothing wrong with it. It shows two powerful men who are each trying, in different ways, to leave the world better than they found it. If it took some serious language to wake up people, then the short guy was corageous enough to risk having certain barnyard animals take him out of context and try to distort his life's work in order to promote a political candidate. The tall, skinny one gets up every day and reminds us of what we can achieve if we're not afraid to try. I *like* the picture.

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I like it too. It makes me happy.

But at the same time it also makes me sad when people like gotalife try to use is as some sort of racial/political smear. If it were almost anyone else here using it, it wouldn't be besmirched as it is when gotalife uses it.

And yet there is a distinction to be made. Dr. King was warning America that America will go hell unless we use our wealth to help the ppor and right injstices.

Reverend Wright was saying G8d Damn America and 9/11 was the chickens coming home to roost. That's not repent or be damned. That is rejoicing in the "damning" of America.

To equate Dr. King with Reverned Wright is truly beyond the bounds of decency. But thanks for trying.

And Senator Clinton did not attempt to diminish the legacy of MLK. She spoke the truth. Speeches can inspire a country and move the political forces, but it took political will and might to get the laws post. Inspiration on it's own does not create social change. To say LBJ played no part in the Civl Rights amendment is false.

In addition, Rev. King didn't just give speeches, he ACTED as well resulting in his imprisonation for political disobedience. There were plenty of people who spoke eloquently about the need for social justice, but Rev. King took it beyond words and acted. What actions has Obama done to bring us towards this new politics/move beyond race? He had a chance to act towards racial unity when he heard the hateful words from his pastor for 20 years and he just voted "present" by remaining within a Church whose leader made by his own accounts reprehensible comments.

Actions speak louder than words, and no matter how pretty Obama's rhetoric is, it is drowned out by his silence on this moving beyond racial divisions prior to his running for President.

"And yet there is a distinction to be made. Dr. King was warning America that America will go hell unless we use our wealth to help the ppor and right injstices."

I'm guessing then that you've not actually seen the complete Wright sermons in question to be typing that with a straight face, assuming you are. If you seen the context of those statements and you're still making that assertion, there's little any of us can do to help I'm afraid - it's terminal.

I've read the Rev. Wright's sermon as well as watched clips and if you condone equating Dr. King with Rev. Wright, you are off your rocker. Reverend King was appealling to the call of our nation to be better than it was (and still is). Rev Wright has been peddling hatred and bigotry and racial division - not unity.

If you are defending Reverend Wright's speech, then you are in direct contradiction to Barack himself who said had Reverend Wright not been retiring, I would have left the Church.

Were all of Reverend Wright's sermons as radical as the one's the media harps on, of course not. But they were not isolated incidents either. Farrakhan as your man of the year. Pro-Hamas op-eds reprinted in the Church bulletin. That doesn't speak racial unity to me. Barack's actions in continuing to associate himself with that Church does not match his rhetoric.

You can defend Reverend Wright all you want - please don't equate him with reverend King on the anniversary of Dr. King's death. It is disgraceful and dishonest and disrespectful to a true leader in the movement for racial equality, unity and justice.

Sorry, but it's not beyond the bounds of decency to say Wright and King had a lot of the same concerns, outlooks and goals. King was much better at keeping his temper, but there's no way you can, with any honesty, say he wasn't just as impassioned about his mission as Wright.

And I love LBJ, but there's no way he would have ever signed the laws if King hadn't had the courage to stand up and say the words loud enough for America to hear. You're trying to diminish King's legacy to prop up your candidate.

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

"This will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with a new meaning, "My country, 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died, land of the pilgrim's pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring."


Yeah Rev. Wright sounds EXACTLY like Dr. King to me. And you accuse Hillary of diminishing MLK's legacy? Look in the mirror. Your clumsy analogy of Dr. King and Rev Wright is far more damaging to what Dr. King lived and dies for. Have some decency. Do not on the anniversary of his death perpetrate to connect MLK to the bigotry that he opposed on all sides. Not just the white bigots, but the black ones too.

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Hmmmm

So you consider saying that America too is going to Hell, if we don't use her wealth. If America does not use her vast resources of wealth to end poverty, to make it possible for all of God's children to have the basic necessities of life, she too will go to Hell...
But it seems that I can hear the God of the universe saying, "even though you've done all of that, I was hungry and you fed me not. I was naked and ye clothed me not. The children of my sons and daughters were in need of economic security, and you didn't provide for them. So you cannot enter the kingdom of greatness." This may well be the indictment on America that says to the power structure, "If you do it unto the least of these my brethren, you do it unto me."

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And yet there is a distinction to be made. Dr. King was warning America that America will go hell unless we use our wealth to help the ppor and right injstices.

Yep, and that was more than 40 years ago now.

Have we done it? Have we followed Dr. King's advice?

Of course not. If anything, we have regressed. We have created hells in Nicaragua, El Salvador, Angola, Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere -- and that's since Dr. King's death. The economic gap in our own country has widened. We see wealth and income gaps here now not seen since the late 1920s.

Even for all of Dr. King's ability to forgive, there comes a time of reckoning.

Can you sit there and say with a straight face that Dr. King, had he not been murdered, would not have condemned what America has done and become in the last 40 years?

Actually, he didn't even wait.

Just months before he was murdered, at his church in Montgomery, AL, Dr. King preached:

"God didn't call America to engage in a senseless, unjust war," King said of the fighting in Vietnam. "And we are criminals in that war. We've committed more war crimes almost than any nation in the world, and I'm going to continue to say it."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/04/MNDHVVHQ4.DTL

That's right. We are war criminals. That wasn't Rev. Wright. That was Rev. Dr. King. 40 years ago. You show me what has changed for the better since then.

I'm betting you can't.

More:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/mar/31/usa.race
http://www.blackcollegewire.org/index.php?option=com_ywp_blog&task=view&Itemid=36&id=5492

Quite the leap you make there - be sure those shoes are tied tightly.

The Damning America speech you make reference to was, in point of fact, about the very recidivist tendencies of this country to not direct "our wealth to help the ppor and right injstices." Of course we both know that's what i was getting at - otherwise you'd spare us the faux calls of peddling bigotry.

Pointing that out to you doesn't make me a defender of Wright any more than it makes you less culpable for trying to inject it into the conversation.

The equation/comparison was made this morning by noted African-American scholar Michael Eric Dyson on NPR this morning and by Tavis Smiley last weekend on Bill Maher.

Are they saying that the two are equals? Of course not. Who is? No one. But they each cited King's Anti-Vietnam speech and the similarities that exist between it and Reverend Wright's sermons.

They're pretty good company, Dyson and Smiley, and I certainly wouldn't call their comments "disgraceful and dishonest and disrespectful" to King's legacy, as you are.

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"And yet there is a distinction to be made. Dr. King was warning America that America will go hell unless we use our wealth to help the ppor and right injstices.

Reverend Wright was saying G8d Damn America and 9/11 was the chickens coming home to roost. That's not repent or be damned. That is rejoicing in the "damning" of America."

You don't seem to knowwhat Wright said then, because his "god damn America" sermon was exactly what you attribute to King's view. Here is the actual Wright quote:

And the United States of America government, when it came to treating her citizens of Indian descent, she failed. She put them on reservations.

When it came to putting her citizens of Japanese descent fairly, she failed. She put them in interment prison camps.

When it came to putting the citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains. The government put them on slave quarters. Put them on auction blocks. Put them in cotton fields. Put them in inferior schools. Put them in substandard housing. Put them scientific experiments. Put them in the lower paying jobs. Put them outside the equal protection of the law. Kept them out of their racist bastions of higher education, and locked them into positions of hopelessness and helplessness.

The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three strike law and then wants us to sing God Bless America. Naw, naw, naw. Not God Bless America. God Damn America! That's in the Bible. For killing innocent people. God Damn America for treating us citizens as less than human. God Damn America as long as she tries to act like she is God and she is Supreme.

(emphasis mine)

As for the "roosters coming home" sermon (which was a different sermon, he was not rejoicing the attacks of 9/11, just the opposite. To claim he was is to lie about what he said. As CNN commentator Roland Martin noted:

He was actually quoting Edward Peck, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and deputy director of President Reagan’s terrorism task force, who was speaking on FOX News. That’s what he told the congregation.

He was quoting Peck as saying that America’s foreign policy has put the nation in peril:

“I heard Ambassador Peck on an interview yesterday did anybody else see or hear him? He was on FOX News, this is a white man, and he was upsetting the FOX News commentators to no end, he pointed out, a white man, an ambassador, he pointed out that what Malcolm X said when he was silenced by Elijah Mohammad was in fact true, he said Americas chickens, are coming home to roost.”

“We took this country by terror away from the Sioux, the Apache, Arikara, the Comanche, the Arapaho, the Navajo. Terrorism.

“We took Africans away from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism.

“We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel.

“We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenage and toddlers, pregnant mothers and hard working fathers.

“We bombed Qaddafi’s home, and killed his child. Blessed are they who bash your children’s head against the rock.

“We bombed Iraq. We killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living. We bombed a plant in Sudan to pay back for the attack on our embassy, killed hundreds of hard working people, mothers and fathers who left home to go that day not knowing that they’d never get back home.

“We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye.

“Kids playing in the playground. Mothers picking up children after school. Civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day.
“We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff that we have done overseas is now brought right back into our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.

“Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism. A white ambassador said that y’all, not a black militant. Not a reverend who preaches about racism. An ambassador whose eyes are wide open and who is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice upon which we are now poised. The ambassador said the people we have wounded don’t have the military capability we have. But they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them. And we need to come to grips with that.”

He went on to describe seeing the photos of the aftermath of 9/11 because he was in Newark, N.J., when the planes struck. After turning on the TV and seeing the second plane slam into one of the twin towers, he spoke passionately about what if you never got a chance to say hello to your family again.

“What is the state of your family?” he asked.
And then he told his congregation that he loved them and asked the church to tell each other they loved themselves.
His sermon thesis:

1. This is a time for self-examination of ourselves and our families.

2. This is a time for social transformation (then he went on to say they won’t put me on PBS or national cable for what I’m about to say. Talk about prophetic!)

“We have got to change the way we have been doing things as a society,” he said.

Wright then said we can’t stop messing over people and thinking they can’t touch us. He said we may need to declare war on racism, injustice, and greed, instead of war on other countries.
“Maybe we need to declare war on AIDS. In five minutes the Congress found $40 billion to rebuild New York and the families that died in sudden death, do you think we can find the money to make medicine available for people who are dying a slow death? Maybe we need to declare war on the nation’s healthcare system that leaves the nation’s poor with no health coverage? Maybe we need to declare war on the mishandled educational system and provide quality education for everybody, every citizen, based on their ability to learn, not their ability to pay. This is a time for social transformation.”

3. This is time to tell God thank you for all that he has provided and that he gave him and others another chance to do His will.

By the way, nowhere in this sermon did he said “God damn America.” I’m not sure which sermon that came from.

This doesn’t explain anything away, nor does it absolve Wright of using the N-word, but what it does do is add an accurate perspective to this conversation.

The point that I have always made as a journalist is that our job is to seek the truth, and not the partial truth.

Some may argue that 9/11 wasn't blow-back for decades of corrupt meddling in the middle east by the United States and other western powers (mainly Britain) but I think the facts of history make a rather compelling case, which may not be pretty but is valid none-the-less.

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Thanks for the extended quotes.

You missed your chance to talk about how Obama's playing the race card by having anything at all to say about MLK.

You're off your game today GOTL. (hugs)

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Barack Obama is the embodiment of what Martin Luther King fought for, and yet you use that filthy avatar, reminding all of us just what a sanctimonious hypocrite you are.

Speaking of people with dubious religious connections:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich

Hillary thought she would take the express elevator to the top. That machine got stuck at 2nd floor on super tuesday.

Obama decided to take the staircase to the top. Admittedly, it was Hard Work and yet it is showing Success.

That's how I see this primary.

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Why is "Live Up" in quotes in title?

Why are you wearing a mask and what are you doing with that dog?

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I freed it from a laboratory, you racist.

I just about fell out of my seat! Hysterical. Thank you for my hearty laugh of the day.

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Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8ozQz0qe3c

John McCain admitting that he didn't know about MLK at 47 yrs of age!

Saying Dr. King had a dream but "it took a president to get it done" is not showing respect for Dr. King. She is totally disingenuous and someone like her or McCain who voted against a MLK holiday speaking about MLK is disgraceful.

You are quoting Senator Clinton out of context to make it appear she said somethin she didn't:

"I would point to the fact that that Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, when he was able to get through Congress something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the President before had not even tried, but it took a president to get it done. That dream became a reality, the power of that dream became a real in people's lives because we had a president who said we are going to do it, and actually got it accomplished."

What she was saying is that inspiration is only half the battle - we also need political will to get things done. What is disrespectful or inaccurate about that towards MLK? Her criticism is more implicitly towards JFK for "hoping" to get it done vs LBJ for actually using his political clout to make it happen.

It was another intsance of the Obama campaign shamefully trying to inject a tone of racism into the campaign on a perfectly legitimate point of bdebate. Hope and words on their own do not make change. It takes action and will to make change. MLK showed in his actions he was willing to go to jail to fght for racial equality and justice. Obama to date has given speeches. what actions can you point to to bring about racial equality and stand against bigotry and divisiveness on all sides? Still waiting.

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Kinda like what you do about Wright.

I hold Reverend Wright accountable for his own words along with Farrakhan as man of the year and pro-Hamas op-eds in his Church bulletins. If you take Obama at his word that he found the comments reprehensible, then why did he say nothing for 20 years? Words alone do not make a man & Obama's actions are lacking.

Hillary's comments speak for themselves. To interpret it as insulting MLK is beyond a distortion - it is false and the true definition of race-baiting.

For Obama supporters to defend this speaks loudly about their vision of "new politics" and moving "beyond race" - except when it suits your purposes to cry racism at every criticism that goes his way.

It's clear that Obama realizes how much the Rev. Wright debacle still hurts him. Obama keeps bringing it up. He's still on the defensive. I think the apparent silence on the issue in Democratic circles is deceptive.

Notice the use of racial guilt in Obama's speech. He reminds America of how badly it treated black people. This is the political style of Jesse Jackson and others who used guilt as a weapon. In the past that guilt was used to achieve things like affirmative action. In effect, "America, you are guilty of racism, but you can make amends for it by supporting affirmative action". Obama's goal however is to get elected. In effect, "America, you are guilty of racism, but you can make amends for it by electing a black President." Unfortunately that kind of strategy always requires that blacks be victims, and whites be racists. It's an endless cycle that I had hoped Obama would not perpetuate. But that is what he is doing.

Obama's mention of "unfinished dreams" is again a clear reference to himself. In effect, "Elect me and the dream is realized."

"And if we can do that and march together – as one nation, and one people –" Again, if America elects Obama, it will be brought together. But unfortunately Obama is presenting black people as victims, and victims are never equal.

Obama has fallen into the same trap as Jesse Jackson. I feel Obama is the wrong person to bring racial justice to America. When it comes, it will not be handed to anyone to make up for the past. It will have already been achieved by people of all races who simply believe themselves to be equal, not victims, and who behave as equals. Those who persist in viewing themselves as victims will remain victims.

And Otto steps us where Gotalife dropped the ball. Good for you.

Indeed, something is clear, but I doubt it's this strawman you're so desperately trying to prop up here.


That would be "steps up." So many trolls, so little time for spellcheck - sorry folks.

He's far and away better than Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. Race was something he had to deal with because others wouldn't leave him alone about his preacher's expressed racial anger. Instead of cowering away from that or bashing those concerned by it for their concern, he took a position with great integrity that called for forgiveness and mutual disarmament on both sides.

Of course, he can't do that without addressing what was done wrong to black folks, so automatically, your own sensitive standards on the matter are set off. The point he's making is that part of solving the issues of racial justice is bound up in dealing with the issues of dealing with justice in general for all, economic and legal. He's not saying, "vote for me because I'm black and can magically solve all racial problems by entering the White House".

He's saying, "Vote for me, because I'm a peacemaker interested in solving the larger, more common economic and social problems, instead of being just another White or Black politician trying to solve that problem in a zero-sum fashion for my people and mine alone"

He is a symbol, in certain ways, of the virtue of transcending race, but he's not a hollow symbol. He backs his appeal with committments beyond ethnic and racial identity.

Why are you so intent on seeing him as somebody playing the race card, rather than somebody who's largely earned his support without having foregrounded his race?

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re: "Those who persist in viewing themselves as victims"

If it were only as simple as perceptions, and it was all the "victims" fault for refusing to just pick themselves up.

You ignore that there are great historical/institutional/structural injustices embedded in our society today. Wishing our way out ain't gonna cut it. Asking an African American male to stop seeing himself as a victim when he goes to one of the worst schools in the country, sees his family ignored by the economic powers that be, or as the police kick the shit out of him on the street, well...

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Notice the use of racial guilt in Obama's speech. He reminds America of how badly it treated black people. This is the political style of Jesse Jackson and others who used guilt as a weapon.

Racial guilt? We must have been reading two different speeches. I don't see how it's racial guilt to point out the actual history of this country and the conditions facing the black sanitation workers on whose behalf MLK campaigned.

These people were not victims. In striking for better working conditions and a better life, they eschewed the victim role, facing down violence and scorn to achieve their goals. Likewise, Obama's speech is the opposite of victimology because it calls for people to work toward the causes of economic and racial justice. He hardly equates voting for him with bring racial justice to this country. It's a struggle we're all in together.

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Thank you for posting the entire speech. Reading the remembrances of MLK today, here and elsewhere, has made me cry, for what was lost and for how far we still have to go. But I feel hope for my country, too. It's a young hope, a feeling I haven't really experienced in years, but it keeps growing.

To Otto F, you talk about "racial guilt" as though the struggles of the civil rights movement are ancient history. It has only been 40 years. That's within my lifetime. If it's not within yours, then your parents. These events shaped all of us - white, black, brown.

I don't suffer "white guilt," but I would be a fool not to recognize white privilege. My comfortable, well-educated middle class existence stems directly from my parents' ability to comfortably raise a family, which stems directly from my grand-fathers' ability to send their children to college, even though they themselves had not gone to college. For generations, my family had opportunities and stability that were systematically denied to black families throughout most of the 20th century.

The reality of that history impacts us today, which is why MLK fought for both racial justice and economic justice. They are intimately connected. Obama understands that.

"Obama also emphasized an oft-overlooked aspect of King's legacy -- his battle for economic justice -- and put it in the context of our present problems."

Thank you Greg! You got it: the oft-overlooked aspect of King's legacy.... Most have never got it!
(King's best speech(for me) ever was at Stanford in the mid sixties dealt with economics. Yes it would put Obama to shame. If you can find a link to that one you shall be a hero forever.)

Promise will not be a bit harsh, until next time.

Otto F: You do realize that you will lose a lot of readers with the term "racial guilt," due to its frequent use by right-wing racists, right?

dijamo: You make some good points, and I completely agree that the argument that HRC was somehow trying to fight off Barack's appeal to black voters by mentioning LBJ is a canard. However, as far as Wright is concerned, I really don't understand how, if you did see the sermon or read a transcript of it, you can think that it's all that different, either in tone or substance, from MLK's America is Going to Hell address. Dr. King spoke directly about the US's "unjustified war of aggression" in Vietnam; Wright is quoting a former US Ambassador in condemning the causes of 9/11 as being "the chickens coming home to roost." And if you can explain to me how "God Damn America" is somehow a more vicious and anti-American exclamation than "America is going to hell," I'd love to hear it.

What bull, OttoF! If anybody has tried to play an "entitlement" card in this primary, it's been HRC, with her overt invocations to elect "the first woman president." And yet she's been given a complete pass on this! Can you imagine the uproar if Obama said anything remotely comparable? You parse his calls for unity into something they're not and ignore HRC's utterly gender-based appeals.

Sorry, I'd prefer to simply praise both Democratic candidates on this day, but your comments are just too much...something.

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You mean the Hillary that said Lyndon Johnson was the real hero of the civil rights movement?

Your ignorance and intellectual laziness is appalling as all you have to do is look at the actual quote to see what Hillary said. Where did Hillary quote LBJ as the "real hero of the Civil Rights movement"? She said it took LBJ to use political clout to get the law passed. JFK "hoped" to get it passed but didn't use his political power to do it. Again the difference of Hope vs. Action. Clear as day except to those who want to find racism in every criticism of the Obama campaign.

But instead of acknowledging the truth, you just just post drivel talking point lies with no basis in reality. Pathetic. get off the kool aid and have an original thought for a change.

Take a look at MLK's speech and compare with Rev. Wright and see if they are anywhere near the same context. It was a warning that America needs to live up to his moral responsibilites rather than damning America to hell. The distinction is not a small one. It is of both substance and delivery.

"You know, Jesus reminded us in a magnificent parable one day that a man went to Hell because he didn't see the poor. And his name was Dives. There was a man by the name of Lazarus who came daily to his gate in need of the basic necessities of life. Dives didn't do anything about it. He ended up going to Hell.

But there is nothing in that parable that says that Dives went to Hell because he was rich. Jesus never made a universal indictment against all wealth. It is true that one day a rich young ruler came before him talking about eternal life. And he advised him to sell all. But in that instance Jesus was prescribing individual surgery, and not setting forth a universal diagnosis.

If you will go on and read that parable in all of its dimensions, and all of its symbolism, you will remember that a conversation took place between Heaven and Hell. And on the other end of that long distance call between heaven and Hell was Abraham in Heaven talking to Dives in Hell. It wasn't a millionaire in Hell talking with a multimillionaire in heaven. Dives didn't go to Hell because he was rich. His wealth was an opportunity to bridge the gulf that separated him from his brother Lazarus.

Dives went to Hell because he passed by Lazarus every day, but he never really saw him. Dives went to Hell because he allowed Lazarus to become invisible. Dives went to Hell because he allowed the means by which he lived to outdistance the ends for which he lived. Dives went to Hell because he maximized the minimum, and minimized the maximum. Dives finally went to Hell because he wanted to be a conscientious objector in the war against poverty.

And I come by here to say that America too is going to Hell, if we don't use her wealth. If America does not use her vast resources of wealth to end poverty, to make it possible for all of God's children to have the basic necessities of life, she too will go to Hell. I will hear America through her historians years and years to come saying, "We built gigantic buildings to kiss the sky. We build gargantuan bridges to span the seas. Through our spaceships we were able to carve highways through the stratosphere. Through our airplanes we were able to dwarf distance and place time in chains. Through our submarines we were able to penetrate oceanic depths."

But it seems that I can hear the God of the universe saying, "even though you've done all of that, I was hungry and you fed me not. I was naked and ye clothed me not. The children of my sons and daughters were in need of economic security, and you didn't provide for them. So you cannot enter the kingdom of greatness." This may well be the indictment on America that says in Memphis to the mayor, to the power structure, "If you do it unto the least of these my brethren, you do it unto me."…

Now you're doing something else here. You are highlighting the economic issues. You are going beyond purely civil rights to questions of human rights. That is distinct…

Now our struggle is for genuine equality, which means economic equality. For we know now, that it isn't enough to integrate lunch counters. What does it profit a man to be able to eat at an integrated lunch counter if he doesn't have enough money to buy a hamburger? What does it profit a man to be able to eat at the swankest integrated restaurant when he doesn't even earn enough money to take his wife out to dine? What does it profit one to have access to the hotels of our cities, and the hotels of our highways, when we don't earn enough money to take our family on a vacation? What does it profit one to be able to attend an integrated school, when he doesn't earn enough money to buy his children school clothes?"

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Civil Rights movement"? She said it took LBJ to use political clout to get the law passed. JFK "hoped" to get it passed but didn't use his political power to do it

That's hardly a fair comparison - Kennedy wasn't in office very long. But for the time he was in office, he fought hard for civil rights. I've heard the recording of his phone call to George Wallace, telling him to stand down.

Why in the world would you want to cast any aspersions on the one part of Kennedy's legacy that is intact?

LBJ's record on Civil Rights. He entered office in 1963 & the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964.

In conjunction with the civil rights movement, Johnson overcame southern resistance and convinced Congress to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which outlawed most forms of racial segregation. Johnson signed it into law on July 2, 1964. Legend has it that, as he put down his pen, Johnson told an aide, "We have lost the South for a generation," anticipating a coming backlash from Southern whites against Johnson's Democratic Party.[25] In 1965, he achieved passage of a second civil rights bill, the Voting Rights Act, that outlawed discrimination in voting, thus allowing millions of southern blacks to vote for the first time.

In 1967, Johnson nominated civil rights attorney Thurgood Marshall to be the first African American Associate Justice of the Supreme Court. After the murder of civil rights worker Viola Liuzzo, Johnson went on television to announce the arrest of four Ku Klux Klansmen implicated in her death. He angrily denounced the Klan as a "hooded society of bigots", and warned them to "return to a decent society before it's too late." He turned the themes of Christian redemption to push for civil rights, thereby mobilizing support from churches North and South.[26] At the Howard University commencement address on June 4, 1965, he said that both the government and the nation needed to help achieve goals: ...To shatter forever not only the barriers of law and public practice, but the walls which bound the condition of many by the color of his skin. To dissolve, as best we can, the antique enmities of the heart which diminish the holder, divide the great democracy, and do wrong — great wrong — to the children of God...'.[27]

JFK's record on Civil Rights:
The turbulent end of state-sanctioned racial discrimination was one of the most pressing domestic issues of Kennedy's era. The United States Supreme Court had ruled in 1954 that racial segregation in public schools was unconstitutional. However, many schools, especially in southern states, did not obey the Supreme Court's judgment. Segregation on buses, in restaurants, movie theaters, bathrooms, and other public places remained. Kennedy supported racial integration and civil rights, and during the 1960 campaign he telephoned Coretta Scott King, wife of the jailed Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr., which perhaps drew some additional black support to his candidacy. John and Robert Kennedy's intervention secured the early release of King from jail.[35]

In 1962, James Meredith tried to enroll at the University of Mississippi, but he was prevented from doing so by white students. Kennedy responded by sending some 400 federal marshals and 3,000 troops to ensure that Meredith could enroll in his first class. Kennedy also assigned federal marshals to protect Freedom Riders.

As President, Kennedy initially believed the grassroots movement for civil rights would only anger many Southern whites and make it even more difficult to pass civil rights laws through Congress, which was dominated by Southern Democrats, and he distanced himself from it. As a result, many civil rights leaders viewed Kennedy as unsupportive of their efforts.

On June 11, 1963, President Kennedy intervened when Alabama Governor George Wallace blocked the doorway to the University of Alabama to stop two African American students, Vivian Malone and James Hood, from enrolling. George Wallace moved aside after being confronted by federal marshals, Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach and the Alabama National Guard. That evening Kennedy gave his famous civil rights address on national television and radio.[36] Kennedy proposed what would become the Civil Rights Act of 1964.[37]

The modern feminist movement began [38]when Kennedy signed the Executive Order creating the Presidential Commission on the Status of Women in 1961. Commission statistics revealed that women were also experiencing discrimination. Their final report doccumenting legal and cultural barriers was issued in October 1963, a month before Kennedy's assassination.


JFK was a great President, but let's npt idealize him so that we forget what his actual Civil Rights accomplishments were. JFK hoped for change. LBJ wagered his political future on passing the Civil Rights Act early in his presidency.

Fo those who want to say LBJ was unimportant to Civil Rights, you need a refresher lesson in history. He was a courageous President who was not flashy, wasn't known for his oratry and flash - but he got stuff done. Let's not lose sight of giving a man his due. Acknowledging LBJ does not in anyway denigrate the work and influence of MLK.

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Let’s bend that arc toward justice.

Let’s bend that arc toward opportunity.

Let’s bend that arc toward prosperity for all.

And let's do it by sitting quietly in a pew in front of Rev. Wright for twenty years. Of course, we all believe Obama when he says that he would have left the Church except that Rev. Wright was retiring.

Too often Obama's actions do not match his rhetoric.

He put his own political advantage above the rights of the Michigan and Florida voters to be heard and now wants to claim the MLK mantle.

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Sermon's like these?

And I come by here to say that America too is going to Hell, if we don't use her wealth. If America does not use her vast resources of wealth to end poverty, to make it possible for all of God's children to have the basic necessities of life, she too will go to Hell. I will hear America through her historians years and years to come saying, "We built gigantic buildings to kiss the sky. We build gargantuan bridges to span the seas. Through our spaceships we were able to carve highways through the stratosphere. Through our airplanes we were able to dwarf distance and place time in chains. Through our submarines we were able to penetrate oceanic depths."

But it seems that I can hear the God of the universe saying, "even though you've done all of that, I was hungry and you fed me not. I was naked and ye clothed me not. The children of my sons and daughters were in need of economic security, and you didn't provide for them. So you cannot enter the kingdom of greatness." This may well be the indictment on America that says to the power structure, "If you do it unto the least of these my brethren, you do it unto me."…

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Just to give the conversation a little balance:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich

Oh, for God's sake--HILLARY signed off on the DNC's decision re: Michigan and Florida, then conveniently failed to remove her name from the Michigan ballot...and, once it became clear she wasn't going to win walking away, suddenly became a "champion" of the Mich and FLA voters. Blame the state parties who defied the DNC and moved their primaries up, and spare me your duplicitous, do-anything-to-win candidate's b.s. (Let's not forget how often she and her campaign have mocked the caucuses and dismissed any # of states as "insignificant.")

I think the DNC and the Credentials Committee should stick to the rules and decisions made months and months ago, when HRC was Ms. Inevitability. But just to get this race over with and HRC OUT OF IT, go with Clinton ally Sen. Nelson's 50%-allocation proposal for FLA and split MI 50-50. You're still going to lose, but at least you won't be able to whine about "disenfranchisement" anymore. And the state parties will know that they can't pull this crap anymore (because if they get away with defying the DNC, the 2012 primary calendar will be complete anarchy).

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Comical.

Clinton's comment about LBJ had NOTHING to do with JFK (also a president) and JFK was not mentioned at all. So for you fabricate out of whole cloth that it was a criticism leveled at JFK is laughable. I don't think it was "racist" what her lame LBJ comment was, so please stop putting word in my mouth or that of Obama or his campaign.

So is Farrakhan a racist when he went with Jackson, and Wright to secure the release of white A6 intruder pilot downed and held captive?

So is Farrakhan a racist when you give him an award for his prison ministries?

Does it make own a racist to praise the positive things someone does while disavowing and rejecting other aspects of a person who expresses repugnant views?

I personally find Farrakhan's anti-Semitic and racist views repulsive, as does Obama. But is one praises good things someone does who also does bad things, does that mean anyone who knows me is a racist?

Your fraudulent claims that somehow Obama's actions of not leaving the same church Oprah Winfrey attends, and whose pastor the Clinton's invited to the White House 20 years ago is beyond pathetic.

So should we be calling Clinton an anti-Semite because she has turned to Billy Graham for spiritual guidance?

Should we be calling Jackson a racist as well, and anyone doesn't denounce and reject Jackson?

So is MLK a racist because he ha within his inner circle Jackson, who has worked with Farrakhan and Wright?

You six-degrees of Rev. Bacon "guilt" is intellectual sophistry writ large.

I see you also avoided by rebuttal using some of Roland Martin analysis of Wright's sermon's you are using to claim racism.

You are misinformed - I believe it was timed almost to the week of Ted Kennedy's endorsement and when I first heard it, it came off as a brush off to JFK. In the quote itself she explicitely criticizes JFK. It is Dr. King's dream she recognizes, but LBJ got the laws passed at great political risk to himself and his party.

Roland Martin is one of the biggest Obama shills out there and I have no respect for him.

Obama said he himself would have left the Church had Wright not retired - only after he started running for president. Did he hear hateful speech he disagreed with in the Church? Yes and he admitted it (after denying initially hearing controversial comments). If the speeches are so mainstream, then why would Obama distance himself at all unless he is doing so out of politically expediency rather than his own comnvictiions which calls even to question his character even more.

Pick your poison - Did Rev. Wright say nothing wrong and Obama publicly criticized him because it was politically advantageous? Was Rev. Wright wrong along and Obama stood silent until he got called on it in his presidential campaign? Either way - not a decision made on character or principle but to deflect criticism by association. Real stand up guy you got there.

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"Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act, It took a president to get it done." - Hillary Clinton

So JFK was not a president?

Wright said several things I disagree with (things which Obama pointed out that he, Obama, disavows), but he (Wright) is not a racist, which is your assertion.

"Roland Martin is one of the biggest Obama shills out there and I have no respect for him."

LOL, so because he backs Obama, you refuse to address the points he raised, so you hold no respect for someone because they support Obama and therefor don't have to address any of the points he raised.

"I would point to the fact that that Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, when he was able to get through Congress something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the President before had not even tried, but it took a president to get it done. That dream became a reality, the power of that dream became a real in people's lives because we had a president who said we are going to do it, and actually got it accomplished."

OKAY got that. The President before had not even tried. The President before was JFK. He was unwilling to use political capital to force the issue and LBJ did. I have much respect for JFK but he was not perfect. JFK's words were inspiring and lofty but he did not have the actions behind it to force the issue of civil rights legislation. LBJ got it done. There's no great historical debate here unless you are totally unfamiliar with the legacy of LBJ. And this whole denigration of his contribution is sad and indicative of a country that does not know much about history.

If you think MLK did it alone, you are wrong. He was the inspiring force and he made the country take notice and move towards racial equality as a moral issue, but LBJ deserves credit as well.

Secondly on Roland Martin, he tortures logic so it fits Obama. He is an unbearable shill who rarely has anything intelligent to contriute to the conversation.

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I, nor anyone else ever suggested MLK did it alone. So congratulations you slew your strawman. However without MLK there would have been no mass movement to force LBJ to pass the 1964 civil rights act (at the insistence of RFK). I am quite aware of the history of LBJ in this matter thank you.

Great - then let's agree that Hillary was in know way trying to slight MLK's speech & rhetoric that created and drove the movement. Her points was that LBJ passed the laws. That's why MLK was fiercely campaigning for LBJ because he knew the man would use his power to pass the laws that would make the Civil Rights Movement dream a reality.

The true straw man argument is arguing that Hillary was rebuking MLK when it is clear in her comments she was not. It was an implicit rebuke to JFK (on well grounded historical background) and Ted Kennedy took great offense to it.

And the argument that this was injecting race in the campaign comes directly from an Obama campaign memo which oddly enough is no longer on their website but lives on through the Huffington Post. This also has continues the false allegation that President Clinton called Obama's campaign a fairytale rather than his being consistently against the Iraq war a fairytale. Yeah - the Obama campaign is totally innocent in trying to misconstrue Hillary's comments as a rebuke to MLK. Nice try:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/read-obama-campaign-memo-_n_81220.html

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Did he hear hateful speech he disagreed with in the Church? Yes and he admitted it

Wrong. He said "had he heard comments from Wright in the past that some would view controversial? Yes. I doubt there is a person on the planet that would not say that had never heard a comment that others might view controversial from someone they have heard speak on numerous occasions about social ills of our society that others might see as controversial. Was it the "god damn speech"..? No. So stop trying to spin this as if Obama altered what he said on this matter in different quotes.

from obama's speech on race. You tell me where he inicates the comments were not racially divisive? Okay...thanks:

But the remarks that have caused this recent firestorm weren't simply controversial. They weren't simply a religious leader's effort to speak out against perceived injustice. Instead, they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country - a view that sees white racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America; a view that sees the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam.


As such, Reverend Wright's comments were not only wrong but divisive, divisive at a time when we need unity; racially charged at a time when we need to come together to solve a set of monumental problems - two wars, a terrorist threat, a falling economy, a chronic health care crisis and potentially devastating climate change; problems that are neither black or white or Latino or Asian, but rather problems that confront us all.


Given my background, my politics, and my professed values and ideals, there will no doubt be those for whom my statements of condemnation are not enough. Why associate myself with Reverend Wright in the first place, they may ask? Why not join another church? And I confess that if all that I knew of Reverend Wright were the snippets of those sermons that have run in an endless loop on the television and You Tube, or if Trinity United Church of Christ conformed to the caricatures being peddled by some commentators, there is no doubt that I would react in much the same way


But the truth is, that isn't all that I know of the man. The man I met more than twenty years ago is a man who helped introduce me to my Christian faith, a man who spoke to me about our obligations to love one another; to care for the sick and lift up the poor. He is a man who served his country as a U.S. Marine; who has studied and lectured at some of the finest universities and seminaries in the country, and who for over thirty years led a church that serves the community by doing God's work here on Earth - by housing the homeless, ministering to the needy, providing day care services and scholarships and prison ministries, and reaching out to those suffering from HIV/AIDS.

What galls me about Hillary's talk of Lyndon Johnson's importance to the civil rights movement, in addition to Martin Luther King's, is the way she frames it and what that frame implies.

"I would point to the fact that that Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, when he was able to get through Congress something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the President before had not even tried, but it took a president to get it done. That dream became a reality, the power of that dream became a real in people's lives because we had a president who said we are going to do it, and actually got it accomplished."

This seems to suggest that LBJ was the one who did the heavy lifting in the advancement of civil rights in this country.

It suggests that King's activism, his marches, his sit-ins, his boycotts, his rallies- that none of that was as hard as the legislation that Johnson pushed through Congress and signed. Because that's what really 'got it done.'

It denigrates all of the people who took to the streets during the Civil Rights Movement, because it implies that all they did was inspire Congress to be more receptive to Johnson's legislation. This is wrong. They did it. They fought the oppression of segregation, and the victory over it was their victory.

Johnson was a foot soldier, like all the legislators who crafted the Civil Rights Act. But King was the leader of that army.

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You are intentional mixing up what both Obama said and I corrected you on. Obama "admitted" that he had heard past remarks that others would think controversial. He has stated that he was NOT in the church when the god damn america, sermon occurred.

You earlier tried to imply that Obama has somehow backtracked on his statements when you omitted what he ACTUALLY said just before the place you begin quoting from:

"Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes."

That does NOT translate into him now admitting that he was in the church to hear any of the sermons that have been so hotly debated and criticized.

True but it begs the question - what WERE the comments that he heard and considered racially divisive, controversial while he was in Church. Has your candidate elaborated on that? No he just wants to sweep it under the rug. The thing about it is someone doesn't go off like that once or twice. As Rev. Wright's supporters have said, that is his rhetorical style.

So rather than addressing what he did hear and come clean, Obama chooses that he will just move beyond race. Guess what - taht answer doesn't mesh for me or many other people. Maybe in his grand speech rather than using it to be holier than thou, he should have spent some actual time coming to terms with his own inaction in the face of racial divisiveness rather than just assuming that people would hear his pretty words and not ask the tought questions he has yet to answer.

His speech quieted down the apologists and the Obamabots and some people who get so caught up in words that they are not looking for substance. I am not in any of those catgories and his speech was woefully inadequate. The issue has not been resolved by any stretch of the imagination and he should have taken the opportunity to do it now rather than in the general election (if he should make it there) when you know the real quotes that he did hear will emerge.

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"These days, Clinton has graduated from the political wives' group into what may be Coe's most elite cell, the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast. Though weighted Republican, the breakfast, regularly attended by about 40 members, is a bipartisan opportunity for politicians to burnish their reputations, giving Clinton the chance to profess her faith with men such as Sam Brownback as well as the twin terrors of Oklahoma, James Inhofe and Tom Coburn, and, until recently, former Senator George Allen (R-Va.). Democrats in the group include Arkansas Senator Mark Pryor, who told us that the separation of church and state has gone too far; Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) is also a regular.

Unlikely partnerships have become a Clinton trademark. Some are symbolic, such as her support for a ban on flag burning with Senator Bob Bennett (R-Utah) and funding for research on the dangers of video games with Brownback and Santorum. But Clinton has also joined the GOP on legislation that redefines social justice issues in terms of conservative morality, such as an anti-human-trafficking law that withheld funding from groups working on the sex trade if they didn't condemn prostitution in the proper terms. With Santorum, Clinton co-sponsored the Workplace Religious Freedom Act; she didn't back off even after Republican senators such as Pennsylvania's Arlen Specter pulled their names from the bill citing concerns that the measure would protect those refusing to perform key aspects of their jobs—say, pharmacists who won't fill birth control prescriptions, or police officers who won't guard abortion clinics."

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html

Let's try to not reprint lies here shall we:

The bipartisan Workplace Religious Freedom Act (WRFA) was introduced in the United States Senate by Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pennsylvania) and Senator John Kerry (D-Massachusetts) on March 17, 2005, and in the House of Representatives by Representatives Mark Souder (R-IN), Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY), Bobby Jindal (R-LA), and Anthony Weiner (D-NY). If passed, this legislation would require employers to make reasonable accommodation for an employee's religious practice or observance, such as holy days (e.g. Jewish Sabbath observances).

Other supporters of the bill include Senator and Presidential Candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton D-New York and Senator Ted Kennedy.

Bi-partsan support. Hillary has an 100% NARAL rating and has consistently voted in favor of protecting a woman's right to choose.

And since when is attending a non-denominational prayer breakfast a bad thing - with people you agree with on political issues or not? Can you name an instance where Hillary's stances have changed? Can you name anything outrageous that "The Family" has advocated? Okay - thanks for your contribution.

And to help you in your research, here's a link to research Clinton's wildly fundamentalist conservative voting record (97.2% with the Democratic party):

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/c001041/

Please feel free to investigate actual facts rather than reprinting spurious allegations from some conservative htjob book clearly intended to influence the presidential race. If there was anything relevant here, they would have come out with it already rather than more innuendo. Nice to have Obama leaning publications going along with conservative hitjob pieces. That's really unIfying the party!


Somewhere along the US Political Timelime there is going to be a phase of “Frikk You Whitey it’s our turn in Office now” from “A Black Guy”
A 20-year span should take care of it
This necessary cathartic process will be part of the final historical public breakthrough to World Race Emancipation
Good!
The US is embracing itself for this and
(Some) are bracing themselves for a significantly different way of doing things (Fuzzy Logic?)
Is it logic or is it fuzzy logic?
It’s likely this necessary catharsis will run a lot less than 20years, thanks to Uniracial appreciations of modern life.
But rectifying some lagging ongoing social/economic disparities has to be played out , to resolve to
a real national unity.

And that means “We Whitey” has to shut the frikk up for a while
Because despite the fact that law has addressed a lot of racially abusive bias, racism is still to a degree in effect as an economic tool of disparity, to the benefit of Whitey
And, for victims of racism, memories of past atrocities need purging.
Of course “Poor racist Whitey” was never the sole perpetrator in this nonjust economic model, which in reality , linked to colonialism, probably paid for the industrial and technological revolutions worldwide that will benefit us all in the future
But Poor democratically voting Whitey was and remains ongoing complicit.
Until the next federal election?

But in truth, for the most part, like all of history, a privileged few ‘Super Whiteys” benefited exponentially, through political, social and financial manipulations, such as racism and patriotism fervour and other artificial (but made lawful) wealth delivering devices
But now the, behind the scenes financial players cant dupe the masses anymore
It is not just implausible, it is impossible!
no duping all of the people some of the time anymore
Even media moguls are feeling and looking like they are about to be cast adrift
It’ll feel a bit odd not getting bullshit from Rupert anymone!
Like Billions, I’ve been farce media opiated for so long,
They reported
We finally are deciding
Read on

I don’t know how I’ll begin to think again
It has worked nicely though, for say the last 50 years
I’m past 50
Toxic Busy is where we all are
It has worked.
Up until recently!
Now Black, White and Coloured and all US people are about to be in the game as equals
“Privileged Whitey Secular Leadership Group” has taken too much for too long.
Walls are coming down all over the world
No wall is strong enough to hold a raging tide
The tide must be understood
Or the fool builds future grave costs on jeopardy sand

Too many Global uprisings are thriving and aware of the global Disparity Economic Model.
No US government or security intelligence can continue to sustain paying the premium for this outdated crazy nostalgic model, which continues to consume huge resources for the benefit of a masterful few.

The Camels, The Straws The Breaking Backs are all reinvigorated
Differently though! More informed now!
People of different skin colours and cultures, for a few years have known this is inexorably happening.
And it is happening
The political and big business status quo spin and National Patriot Line is faltering to collapse.
Slick devices and editing efficacy cannot hold the tide anymore
There is ongoing historical grievance redress needed to prevent catastrophic economic and social breakdown.
No more Jizzy Wizzy market instruments are going to do it.

ONCE UPON A TIME

If there is not an accepted social and economic catharsis period in the US and pointed internationally,
and also an accompanying change to a new configured, more equitable economic and social justice model, with new better-regulated market manipulation machinery and instrumentation, the following mild outcome is likely ready to happen

“Old Faithful Simpsons’Beer and circus pill” will run irreversibly dry
And Serious Social and Economic Meltdown. China Syndrome
Will likely become the next and final episode in US reality TV

And it will touch all of us
100 big guys’ purse strings will late loosen, but too late to save the day, the year, and the decade
They’ll go down with all of us.

But here comes John Wayne he’s with Martin Luther King
Relax _
Hopefully a smoother transition than this will happen
Obama is going to get the vote of “Waked up Whitey”

Real Participation in the Global Deracism’d market culture is our last hope to remain forward and significant
Drop the Middle East subsidy
This will really get some constructive lack of pre-emptive strike dialogue happening, once and for all
The military is dead as an economic benefit
No more McCain or Hillary facade for US all
Obama will win the next US election because we all know he’s the future
“Bite the bullet”man
Black? Sure, Christian? Probably, Muslim? Probably not,
Jewish? Probably definitely not, but possibly maybe
Globally inclusive and decent? Perceivably
So he’ll get the majority vote
A fresh new change closer to Jefferson, Franklin, and the equality of King
Maybe a great new age?
Not withstanding the fact that global economic disparity is still what sustains the privileges of the entire western world.

So onto a new sustainable economic model
Are there any free thinking intelligent minds up for this noble deed?
Smart excited and ready to go when the present irresistible disparity model is ‘Spent”totally expired of course that is!
And it’s nearly expired into incredibility now.

A change for the better?
We are running out of dirty smelly (thank you for the memories) oil
And we better get thinking about friendly alternatives now
And millions of Americans are
Paint the top of all aeroplanes solar black, they fly right side up in the sun most of the time don’t they?
Balance an egg on a spoon for awhile longer?

A united US beyond racism is required economically, socially and
Just because it’s the right thing to do.
It’s time for the move toward interesting healthy Diversity
And this diversity will inevitably make secularism its tedious servant
Secular oppression will be nothing more than a personal voluntary closet

Obama will find it easier to unite White with Black and all
With exception of the artificially sustained secular-ites perhaps
But of course even they might spend their ill gottens’ reluctantly profusely to get out of this mire for a while.
But they can’t pull the wool over US anymore
Not when Big Momma’s rattling in her very bones

The US with it’s rational thinking Global US friends (not just bloody allies)
And other new acquaints and fellow citizens of the World,
Are going to say: No thank You to Secular McCain or hegemonious Hillary
No thank you.

The world needs a US that is in reality a leader in human rights
The world wants a US that is in reality a comprehensive Leading Operative for a new standard of global decency and a new much more equitable economic model
An enlightened socially diverse one, that can easily lose reliance on tragedy, disparity, hunger and conflict
Information Asymmetry is Dead
Trust me I’ll trust you
Time to wake to 21st century Non Terrorism
Time to Change the way we look to see differences in culture as exciting rather than something to fear
It ain’t that hard pardtner

The World wants a US that will stand up in the United Nations, not stand up as the United Nations
The World needs a US that knows Texas is a future thinking State, not a 1963 state of mind.
And the US needs to be respected again by the rest of the world
Who have much to be grateful to America for
Very much.
And anybody or State or religion that hates America, should piss off and have a rethink.

The US voters know that Obama will bring a reason to the United Nations that will quickly benefit US citizens through accord rather than thuggery and political old ally trade

So we are not as dopey and retarded, as the Whitehouse would have us behave.
The goodies versus baddies overview which has successfully fuelled the US mothership for so long really has crumbled into a stall
The heavy secular leadership days are over
Last drinks yadi yada. bla bla
Everyone knows the artificially sustained privileged and their failing propoganderists are under heavy siege.
They reported it.
We have decided it.
And with nothing more than time and truth
And the truth is
That lies and spin and edit and econofact tunnelling and devices such as pseudo patriotism and incited racism, just wont cut it anymore, no matter how slick the spin.

Don’t misread the tenor of this comment
I am fair Guy.
Very positive White Guy
First I try to be Human and Decent and Acknowledging
Perhaps a new majority of forward thinking Americans
Will win out and reclaim the US respectability
It is “TheBlackGuy”s turn
Leave your weapons at the door cowboys
Give him a go
Bring on a better playing field, a field of excitement, and not a field of lies and cheap trick expensive war subsidies for non-believers.

The “chapter of catharsis” is needed to get to the next phase of collective humanity to a fresh healthy global Thrive
Technology has given us a better lifestyle opportunity
1 to 15 ratio man to machine
A simple set of more solid and transparent Global Economic protocols is enough to promote global economic growth, virtually indefinitely
And let’s not miss the point again
What is economic growth for?
Retirement? Or improved quality of life?
Gain can be made inevitable through reversing the tendency to make law busy and inaccessible to virtually all but those who make it.
This is ridiculously simple and obvious
But like water and bread
More can be made of it

The world will not anymore be duped by dubious financial market instruments shifting the honest daily productivity value of billions of decent honest people, to a few masterful maleficents, in a whiff
The new known fundamental reality is
There can be no Recession in reality ever again
Only in the financial cyber market to its own peril if it renders itself so cliqued and foolish that it gets thrown out as a paraih pile of refuse by the Real World

Not withstanding God willing the rain stops, the sunshine stops and the fields stop growing food to harvest with our remote control computer activated pods! state of the art of course

So time to wrestle a bit of reality into the “Holders of Market Device Levers”
Disabuse them of their beliefs that their Dollar is the only one we will permanently behold to
This Jizzy Wizzy dollar might end up on the scrap heap if the lack of integrity I’m talking about continues on for much longer.
What’s the price of gold?
Who cares it’s too heavy
Give me an ocean of fish in clean water, wheat from the fields
And some good American values to go with it
I’ll survive happily on that
Until the Beatup Negative Geared Defensive Economy is exhausted and dragged kicking and screaming reluctantly into a better healthier more satisfying lifestyle for everyone.
One man now does the job that 15 men were required for, prior to the computer age
Somethimgs sucking the fruits of that advance away

Go figure


Yibidee yibbida ~

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