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Obama Nabs Another Super-Delegate

He just picked up the support of Iowa superdelegate and farmer Richard Machacek, reports the Des Moines Register.

That's two for Obama today. The latest super del tally (not including the above): Hillary, 265; Obama, 243.

If Obama were to pull even with Hillary by this metric, that would be a big story.


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Judas!

Probably owns a limousine farm.

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actually I believe it's the lucrative latte farm in addition to a Birkenstock orchard.

you forgot to mention his prius bog...

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It's hard to tell Priuses from Volvos in the early spring before they really start to sprout.

only if you don't have a trust fund

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I'm waiting for Gottalife's inevitable whining about how unfair this is...

He needs to get that SD count into single digits before May 6.

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LOL!!!

Needs to get it under 9.2.

Woo-hoo!

My hope is that once Obama takes the lead in Superdelegates the media will stop playing the "it's so close" angle.

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Alas, what will they all do with all that time and all those pages to fill?


poor things.

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You're snarking, right?

It will be AllWright, AllTheTime, followed up by a helping of FlagPinInterruptus, returning to AllWright, AllTheTime.

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But did he use his independent judgment???

In any event, Iowa doesn't matter, it's only a caucus state (so I hear).

LOL.

If anyone thinks that Supers are going to vote against the person who has the major of pledged delegates, they're not really paying attention.

Even with all the new Wright stuff, it won't matter (no matter how much gotnolife pretends it will).

Pledge delegates will be how 3/4 of the Supers Dels decide. Period. The other 1/4 being those who are already for Clinton and would vote for her no matter what.

Hillary can longer overtake Obama with a majority of pledged delegates.

Hoping Supers ignore the winner of the pledge is dishonest at best, delusional at worst.

Drip.
Drip.
Drip.
Drip.

I have to admire the superdelegates who are taking the long view instead of getting caught up in the spin of the moment.

If, by the time of the Convention, BO has fallen substantially in the polls (and has no serious chance of beating McCain in the GE), does anyone seriously think that the Democrats would nominate BO?

This is why the delegate count is increasingly becoming irrelevant.

This is why Rev. Wright is a serious problem.

This is why BO should not be "bored" with the primary.

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You've convinced me, Richmond. Now there's no way in hell I would vote for Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Dear Ms "Of Ark",

Have I mentioned that I love you? Because I do. That made me spit my gulp of water. :-)

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O I'm so glad others realize how lovable Jenn is.


She has excellent snark because she has excellent brains rattling around in her head.

:)

Hoping Supers ignore the winner of the pledged count is dishonest at best, delusional at worst.

Give me a break.

Unless Hillary wins the remaining contests by 20 points, this is over.

Hell, I'll make this really simple for you:

Unless Hillary can win NC by 20, it's over.

Actually, she'd have to win by 30 points in ALL remaining states, in order to win the 69% of the remaining delegates need to overtake Obama.

NOT.
GONNA.
HAPPEN.

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If, by the time of the Convention, BO has fallen substantially in the polls (and has no serious chance of beating McCain in the GE), does anyone seriously think that the Democrats would nominate BO?

What would you consider an insurmountable lead?

In 1988, at the time of the convention, didn't Dukakis have something like a 30 point lead over George H. W. Bush?

Plus when Obama locks up his lead in pledged delegates, Hillary will lose one superdelegate (Cantwell) who will go to Obama, and gains five more uncommitted superdelegates who are in the "Pelosi Club":

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/03/superdelegates-pledging-to-back.html

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Let's start calling this play for supers to call the nominee for what it is: the "F*** those Negroes!" strategy.

Good luck with that one, y'all. You won't get anywhere near the White House without the energized support of the African American base. These arguments about how older white women count more than blacks certainly aren't going to help you get there.

Putting race to one side -- let me pose a hypothetical.

Its summer, and the polls show that --

HRC beats McCain by 10 points -- and -- McCain would beat BO by 10 points.

Who should the Dems nominate?

I would not pick my candidate based on polls.

I don't accept the premise of your hypothetical. I don't think there's any chance of those set of circumstances coming to pass.

However, if that did happen, assuming that Obama maintains the lead he currently has in delegates, then the Dems should nominate him.

It's more than just one election. It's the future of the party that the Dems really need to concern themselves with, and if they are seen as overturning the will of the voters (especially in this historic case) -- even if they seem to have a good political reason for doing so, then I believe that is a blow to the party from which they will need a generation or more to recover.

I'd think that was true even if they knew for a fact that McCain would beat Obama. However, your hypothetical doesn't even have that assurance. It only posits a poll indicating that might happen, and one thing we know for sure, polls change.

It isn't worth sacrificing the party to win the battle.

Fair point, and well put.

But the best thing for the party (and the nation) is not GWB 2.0.

One of several reasons this is such profound BS is that Obama, but not Clinton, is simultaneously drawing negative attacks from the Republicans and from a goodly number of Democrats (i.e., the Clintons, including the formerly well loved former President, their well connected and media-savvy retainers, and many very loyal HRC supporters). Clinton is not being attacked much at all by Obama, who wants to pivot to GE and doesn't want to alienate HRC supporters he will need in November. And the Republicants are actively rooting for, and assisting, HRC in her race against Obama.

Any candidate taking that kind of flak is going to suffer some in snap-shot polls. But polls conducted when Obama's facing multiple-front attacks, and Clinton is getting soft gloves from everyone, are an even more unreliable measure of what would really happen in November than other earlier-year polls.

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Well yeah.

I said that earlier - he's fighting not only the right and the Republicans, he's fighting the DLC, the Clintons and the media.

And his polls stay this high? man, I'm beyond inpressed.

I would hope that no one would make a decision based on that premise. Clinton supporters have a lot more reason right now to be pissed than Obama supporters. If a pollster asked me right now "hypothetical McCain v Clinton match-up, who do you pick?" I would answer "Clinton" without batting an eye. Come back to me after my guy has just had the nomination stolen from him, however, and see if you get the same answer. In other words, those poll numbers are not worth a tinkers cuss when the race is like this.

Once Obama no longer has to fight a two-front war, his polling will shoot right past McCain.

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If your hypothetical comes to pass then I won't care what the Democrats do because the world will have gotten so freakish that I will be stockpiling canned goods and digging a bomb shelter.

Stop stomping on my sensitive older female feelings. If 60% of white Dem-voting females support Hillary, are the other 40% invisible?

Guess again. We're sending checks to Obama every month, manning phone banks, and canvassing neighborhoods.

My "advice" to the younger crowd is to get busy and sweet-talk your grandparents into supporting Obama. Heck, if I can talk Edwards' supporters into jumpting to Obama, it would be a cake walk for you kids to convince the grands. Get crackin'.

Sad, ignoring the train wreck.

sad, ignoring reality.

MSNBC and Fox news do not get to vote.

Let me know when Hillary wins NC by 20.

There is nothing Sad about ignoring Hillary.

If Obama were to pull even with Hillary by this metric, that would be a big story.

True but the real important thing here is that every day there's fewer and fewer superdelegates available for her plan to overturn the pledged delegate lead. As is, she'd need a ridiculous percentage of the uncommitteds to catch up.

Look at it this way: there are now some 408 pledged delegates yet to be decided. Let's say Obama gets 200 of them. That puts him something like 90 away from the magical 2024 needed to win the nomination.

There are now fewer than 300 superdelegates out there who have not endorsed (~295 by now). Who thinks 200 of those supers are going to take it upon themselves to throw in with Clinton at the 11th hour to undo what it has taken the voters an agonizing six months to do? Never.

The problem is that after KY, WV, and PR, the difference in delegates will drop considerably...

Not to mention, there is still talk of half votes for Florida and various solutions for Michigan.

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How much is "considerably"?

At this point, even with whopping wins in those primaries, she won't be able to cut his lead to under 100 delegates. There aren't enough delegates up for grabs in any of those primaries to make much difference.

In all 3 of those states, there is only a total of 162 delegates available. Obama leads by between 154 and 158 by this count. Clinton would need to win all of those states by 100% to pull ahead of him, and that's before you consider states that are likely to give him a net delegate gain like NC and OR. Now, Clinton can't really break 60% much less 90 to 100%, so I don't think anybody is really forgetting WV, KY or PR. There just isn't enough there to shift anything.

Leaving aside NC and IN, you forgot SD, MT, and OR--all of which heavily favor Obama. Most likely result from the remaining contests is Obama gains 10-20 delegates.

Since PA this is 7 to 2, so another 5 SDs and he will have catch up the 10 D that he lost in PA, and his lead will further increase after Guam, NC, and IN...

This is the reality of the situation:)

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If Obama were to pull even with Hillary by this metric, that would be a big story.

Yes it would.

Every day I hear about the 3 to 1 spending BO is putting toward his campaign. I see the Calender on this blog and laugh at the 2 to 1 personal stops by Bill and Hillary to BO. It must again be said that BO is running against TWO candidates and if he even gets close to the Clinton machine with such name recognition it is amazing. Wasn't Bill the most popular Dem. President in 50 years and here he is campaigning with his wife (who takes all the credit and experience from his presidency)against this young democrat. Bill seems to be working harder than any of the other candidates. Oh wait, he's not a candidate.

MSNBC

Daily Gallup Tracking poll

HRC 47

BO 46

Why do we even bother with the voting, eh trolls? We'll just decide all future nominations based on statistically insignificant blips in hypothetical polling matchups. Because those are SO VERY ACCURATE AND MEANINGFUL, aren't they? Sounds great to me!

Another fine example of Obama being off his game lately.

This is great! It says a lot that so many supers are breaking for Obama now. They know him, and they know the system. I think they see that he will be amazing for this country.

Hillary's supers endorsed her mostly back at the beginning, as I recall, when she seemed to be the only viable candidate. Is this true?

I really wish the superdelegate counts would even up quickly so that Barack Obama's lead with VOTERS can be clearly seen. This will, indeed, be a big story.

Actually, she'd have to win by 30 points in ALL remaining states, in order to win the 69% of the remaining delegates need to overtake Obama.

NOT.
GONNA.
HAPPEN.

Actually, she'd have to win by 30 points in ALL remaining states, in order to win the 69% of the remaining delegates need to overtake Obama.

NOT.
GONNA.
HAPPEN.

;-)

Wonderful news. It is great to see those superdelegates continue to trickle in.

Bah, humbug!

Signed,

Matt Weaver
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The key is the Senate endorsements. Watch them, because they are the most important. Here are the Senators who have not yet declared.
Ken Salazar (CO)
Joe Biden (DE)
Tom Carper (DE)
Daniel Akaka (HI)
Tom Harkin (IA)
Mary Landrieu (LA)
Ben Cardin (MD)
Carl Levin (MI)
Max Baucus (MT)
Jon Tester (MT)
Harry Reid (NV)
Frank Lautenberg (NJ)
Sherrod Brown (OH)
Ron Wyden (OR)
Jack Reed (RI)
Jim Webb (VA)
Robert Byrd (WV)
Herb Kohl (WI)
Fmr. Senator George Mitchell

Of these, over half are going to go with Obama, which will put him with a good majority of the Dem Senators choosing him over his colleague, Hillary. The unelected superdelegates will follow suit.

To those (intrepid) Clinton supporters here arguing that the whole delegate tabulation thing should be thrown out, and a nominee chosen based upon results of selected polls of "versus McCain" November match-ups, I ask:

Assuming HRC were ahead of Obama in some hypothetical November match-up polls, doesn't Hillary's extraordinary record of losing even very big polling leads over the last six months or so -- a record that evokes the 2007 New York Mets -- give you some pause?

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Awwww! How could you bring up the Mets?

Even if it is a great analogy...

Sorry, but any Red Sox fan who was a college student in Manhattan and had already bought and began to consume a whole 4-pack of Bartles & James wine coolers to celebrate the impending victory in Game 6 of the 1986 series, has a lifetime pass to bring up Met misfortunes.

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Placed in that context, yes, you do have the right...

But surely time (and two World Series) has helped ease the sting of Game 6 (and Game 7)?

Sub, A Sox fan drinkin wine coolers?!!! So, you're the one put the hex on Buckner......

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Lattes all around!!!

Here is another example of Obama's class and quick wit. Seems he has already started focusing on his running mate.

http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=916

P.S. Look through the entire vid and see him answer some really real questions on really real issues.

P.P.S. Above vid courtesy TPMmers chino blanco and jsfox.

Do I remember correctly that much of the Hillary campaign is run by the geniuses who brought victory to John Kerry and Al Gore?

A couple of points regarding your hypothetical:

1. As SCMadden pointed out, picking the nominee on the basis of polling numbers is a bad idea, no matter what the polls show.

2. The hypothetical is based on the summer, a long way from the November election.

3. Finally, although some hillary supporters will follow through on their pledge to not vote or vote for mcbomb when Obama wins the nomination, most will choose the rational path and support Obama so any poll numbers in the summer are apt to change just based on that.

Finally, with all this talk about the "right-wing slime machine", I get the feeling that most people think/believe that the left has no teeth. Come on people! We can bash mcbomb day after day after day. It doesn't have to be "slime" tactics, we simply need to point out his own words and deeds and keep hammering them home.

Right now, the mcbomb camp is trying to spin his comments about being in Iraq for 100 years to sound a lot less worse than they are. Instead of getting apoplectic that his camp is lying (as many of us have), we simply need to keep hammering home our point that he wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years. The majority of voters want the war to END so this strategy can be very effective.

Idiotic must be busy so..THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILARRY!!!

Damn! screwed up my surrogate post! I meant HILLARY!!!Of course. Sorry Id,I'll leave it to the Master from now on.

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The misspelling makes it even better.

This day has improved dramatically with these two Super-Ds announcing for Obama since they are Hillary's audience these days. By the way, it is great that the Rev Wright stuff is happening now. I dread to think what will happen if Senator Clinton wrests the nod for a couple of reasons. Primarily, I worry about all her liabilities that the Obama peope have rightly left off the table. If she gets the nod, people like Juanita Broderick, those rascally brothers of hers (they essentially sold pardons) and even facts like her summer volunteering at the Treuhaft law firm in the summer of 1971 when it defended Huey Newton accused of killing an Oakland cop. This will all be grist for the Republican mill and make Obama's Wright problem look tame by comaparison. I will of course vote for her but more conservative Dems might be taken back by this stuff.

No one spread more manure in rural Iowa than Hayseed Hiilary!!!

Do you hear it guys???DRIP!DRIP!DRIP!DRIP!DRIP!
DRIP!The steady movement of Supers to OBAMA!!!
Will not be long now.SHA NA NA SAY HEY HEY GOODBYE
AND GOOD RIDDANCE TO YOU KNOW WHO!!!

Real Clear Politics added a SD counter in the main numbers box on the homepage. The race is on.

Obama down 21. Who's turning tomorrow.

How many college students are there here who can help influence trhe college dem sd's who have put their votes (2) up for public consumption on youtube?

This Wright thing (whille regrettable in many ways) is a great development for Obama's candidacy and I'm excited today.

Since different delegate counts vary, can you please source this count? DemConWatch has it at 259 HRC: 240 BHO.

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