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New Mexico Sen. Jeff Bingaman Endorses Obama, Giving Him More Senators Than Hillary
Barack Obama has now officially surpassed Hillary Clinton in securing support from their fellow Senators, with New Mexico's Jeff Bingaman announcing his endorsement in an Obama campaign press release.
By our count, Hillary has the endorsements and/or super-delegate votes of 14 other Senators, compared to 15 for Obama.
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ERic, It would be interesting to list all of the Obama, Clinton and currently neutral senators. Can you do it?
April 28, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29_superdelegates%2C_2008
April 28, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
which has the count at 13-18
April 28, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
So the people who know them best prefer Obama over Hillary, huh?
Good job covering this guys after countless wastes of space over whether Obama should have appeared on Fox and Wright-gate.
Now - if you cover the fact that Obama FAR out-polls Hillary in Wisconsin, I'll give you even more credit.
April 28, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
He sure can use it right about now.
April 28, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
And where are all those undeclared supers pledging to Clinton? They must not have gotten the memo about the Big Mo.
April 28, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can and will. I keep waiting for Hillary to announce some new support from among the ranks of the super delegates...
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crickets...
April 28, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nah Nah Nah Nah! Nah Nah Nah Nah! Hey Hey Hey! GOODBYE! Another one bites the dust for Obama.
Excellent news!
April 28, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I bet Obama is sitting on a bunch of supers, just waiting for the right time to bring them forward.
It does change the subject.
April 28, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
The guy is not paying attention.
April 28, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL.
Yeah, that's the ticket...
seriously gotalife, don't kill yourself when Obama wins. Please.
Reading your comments make my day, I'd hate to lose that.
April 28, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, those Senators want to use his unity as cover to vote with the gop for corporate interests.
The Senate is corporate owned you know.
April 28, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
And Hillary isn't?
Look, I don't know how much change Obama can bring to Washington. No one does.
But it seems short-sighted to assume the ultimate political insider, HRC, will somehow be better at reforming Washington than the outsider!
April 28, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
But not Queen Hillary. No, she is above the fray, and a fighter for the working class! Gulp.
April 28, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
To steal someone's new riff:
No one has done more for corporate interests than Hillary Clinton.
April 28, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's because Obama hasn't been around long enough. But his record already looks very promising.
April 28, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's your argument here? That Obama is not as friendly to corporations as Hillary, but he may be at some point in the future? That's your argument?
April 28, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for your prognostication, but I'll take the candidate that hasn't already sold his soul to the corporations.
April 28, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly.
April 28, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude, you're really going to have to make up your mind. Are you to the right of Obama or are you to the left? You really seem to careen madly from one side to the other in your criticisms of him.
Why,they way you're a DLC center-right centrist one day and a left-of-Michael More Move On supporter the next is enough to make one suspect you really have no commitment to the issue at all and are really just posting stuff because you derive enjoyment from getting a rise out of people.
And man, it sure does seem like there are an awful lot of people like that on the Internet. People who just say stuff that they know will stir up a lot of ruckus without any real conviction for the sole purpose of amusing themselves. There should be a special name for people who do that. Some sort of a punning reference that refers to the act of trolling for responses while simultaneously highlighting the ugly and offensive nature of the conduct by evoking some ugly, loathsome subterranean creature from mythology.
Anybody have any ideas for such a word? I'm drawing a blank here.
April 28, 2008 4:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
They're 'Net Narcissicists.
April 28, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought you wanted people to stop badgering the nominee....
April 28, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
. . . to you.
April 28, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Finally, some good news.
April 28, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
It seems to me, OTTO, that Hillary Clinton could use some superdelegates, as well... but she doesn't seem to be getting them.
If I am correct, I believe this if 5 for Obama to 1 for Clinton since Pennsylvania.
Hmmmmmmmmm that's not a great showing after Clinton's supposed "landslide" win.
Stick a fork in her....she's done!
April 28, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
And that folks, is all that really matters.
Not MoveOn, not Fox, not Wright...
as long as Obama keeps picking up delegates, it's over.
April 28, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly ... and it's been mathematically over for weeks, which is why the tide of supers moves to BHO. I wish it would move a little faster ... the suspense is killing me! ... but the result will be the same.
April 29, 2008 12:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
WASHINGTON (AP) - Hillary Rodham Clinton now leads John McCain by 9 points in a head-to-head presidential matchup, according to an Associated Press-Ipsos poll that bolsters her argument that she is more electable than Democratic rival Barack Obama.
April 28, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
So they prefer the female Republican to the male Republican. That's good to know.
April 28, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now Obama leads in delegates, popular vote, states won , AND Democratic Senators!
April 28, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
And Honesty, Integrity and Itelligence.
But according to Gottalife, Hillary should still be President because, well, I guess because it is her turn?
Or was it something about Hillary being a fighter? I think Gottalife considers lying a contact sport, in which case Hillary is a fighter.
April 28, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
How many superdelegates since the Penn primary does that make? He's been making quick work of the 12 delegates "dent" she pulled off.
April 28, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Net +2 to Obama since the PA Primary (4 BHO vs 2 for HRC)
April 29, 2008 12:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, 5 vs 3 ... forgot today's!
April 29, 2008 12:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
"DENT" is pretty generous. I'd call it a 12 delegate "knick"
OF course, it's about gone now!
April 28, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another brick in the wall.
I really do wonder where this will end up.
April 28, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Front page - CBS News:
Bad News For Obama --
Jeff Greenfield: Pastor Has Emerged As Genuine Threat To Dem Front-Runner's Candidacy
If you had a chance to listen to Rev. Jeremiah Wright-- at his NAACP appearance in Detroit, or in his talk at the National Press Club -- you came away with two impressions: first, Rev. Wright is a learned, compelling, often hilarious speaker; second, he is a genuine threat to the presidential hopes of Barack Obama.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/28/politics/main4050606.shtml
April 28, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
CBS is late coming to this conclusion.
April 28, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
that's because Wright is old news.
Obama has already distanced himself, he wasn't hurt by Wright, and won't be in the future.
April 28, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Those Wisconsin numbers look darn good! GO OBAMA 2008!
April 28, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Finally some good news!
April 28, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
CBS News:
"More broadly, Rev. Wright’s counterattack reframes the argument in starkly racial terms: “Attack me, attack the black church.” It is exactly the opposite what Senator Obama has been arguing throughout his campaign; that it is past time for the United States look beyond race. Indeed, Wright’s vision of this controversy strikes at the heart of Obama’s view."
April 28, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who cares?
April 28, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
America cares.
April 28, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not about the nontroversy of Wright, they care more about a faltering economy, a war that should never have been authorized, gas approaching $4 a gallon, a collapsing housing market, skyrocketing debt...
April 28, 2008 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
No they don't.
Show me a poll that shows me they care. Hell, show me any evidence at all anyone besides right-wingers and Hillary supporters care about Rev. Wright's comments.
April 28, 2008 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are turning into a one-trick pony, dear Otto. This thread is about Sen Clinton's inability (despite her urgent need) to win over superdelegates. She needs two of the remaining unpledged supers for every one he gets. Instead he is getting 2 for every one of hers. Prattling on endlessly about Wright will not change that reality.
April 28, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has a problem because he's too close to Wright. We know Obama's too close to Wright because they're openly contradicting each other.
:head asplodes:
April 28, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
"asplodes" Is that like one's head exploding while up one's ass?
April 28, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let us know if that is what happens to you!!!
April 28, 2008 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, I guess Bingaman won't be endorsing Wright.
April 28, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. The more you know Hillary, the less youo like her.
When this started I wasn't a fan, but thought I'd vote for her in the general if she was the nominee. Now there is no possible way I'd vote for her. Sadly, what's also clear is that he or her male neocon counterpart, McCain, will be elected in November. God help us all.
April 28, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Best news I've heard all day! I'm getting sick and tired of Rev. Wright, Polls, and Hillary suck ups!
April 28, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank goodness that Wright is not running for President. And thank goodness for Barack Obama has distanced himself from such remarks.
Non issue.
April 28, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
So Bingamon = the Committee Chair Reid was talking about the other day who was poised to announce?
April 28, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good catch.
April 28, 2008 4:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Loving those Wisconsin numbers too!
April 28, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's a fairly well-known quote sometimes attributed to Einstein:
The Hillary supporters keep making the same arguments, over and over. Wright! Ayers! Rezko! Demographics! Big states!
The superdelegates hear these arguments, over and over. Many of the uncommitted superdelegates here these arguments directly from Bill Clinton and other influential people.
But the superdelegates keep going to Obama at a much faster rate than to Hillary. She needs around 80% of the uncommitted superdelegates now. But lately she's been getting about one to every four or five that Obama gets. Even after she won Ohio and "won" Texas, even after she won Pennsylvania.
The Hillary supporters make the same arguments. And they keep predicting that all of this will be Obama's downfall, that the superdelegates will start flocking to Hillary in large enough numbers to give her the nomination. Any day now. Even though the supedelegates keep doing exactly the opposite.
April 28, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good news for Clinton, absolutely!
April 28, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
From the New York Times:
"Our colleague Jeff Zeleny tells us that associates of Mr. Obama said privately that his campaign was furious at Mr. Wright’s decision to step forward so publicly, but that they were unable to do anything to control this. They added, however, that the pastor’s actions prove that he and Mr. Obama are not that close, otherwise why would Mr. Wright do this now?"
NOT THAT CLOSE?????? Wright brought Obama to Jesus. He married the Obamas. He baptized their children. Wright was Obama's spiritual advisor. Obama and Wright are friends. Obama calls Wright "an important mentor". Immediately before announcing his bid for the Presidency Obama was in the basement praying with Wright. Originally Obama intended to have Wright at his side when he announced, but then was persuaded that Wright was too "controversial". He nevertheless made Wright a member of his campaign's religious advisory panel, until removing him when the video controversy broke. Obama refuses to disavow Wright. "The Audacity of Hope" is the title of one of Wright's sermons. NOT THAT CLOSE????????????????
April 28, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
You see now, Otto, how to distance someone from you without rejecting or denouncing. Cleverly.
April 28, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
"You see now, Otto, how to distance logic from you without rejecting or denouncing. Cleverly."
Fixed.
April 28, 2008 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Explicate.
April 28, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
don't let your head explode over this!
he's close to him as all his congregants are close to him. Wright is Obama's pastor!
Surprise!
April 28, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
"was" his pastor -- not is
April 28, 2008 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Otto, don't have an aneurysm. You'll throw off the dunce count at TPM.
April 28, 2008 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
He did disavow those comments, and said Wright had a "distorted" view of America. he also said the man was important to him, and to his family.
Problem is, when you live in a world where everything is black or white, you miss alot.
April 28, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
"By our count, Hillary has the endorsements and/or super-delegate votes of 14 other Senators, compared to 15 for Obama."
Your count is wrong. DemConWatch is the most reliable out there.
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/02/superdelegates-by-position.html
April 28, 2008 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Beat me to it. DCW, has it pegged ay 18-13 for Senators, in Obama's favor. TPM, a day late and a dollar in Clinton's pocket it seems.
April 28, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
The DCW count includes the two DC Shadow Senators, which is kind of a stretch.
April 28, 2008 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do they get votes? How then is that a 'stretch', exactly?
April 29, 2008 12:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dear Obama friends, we could have a count down as when he will get the nomination...
so he is now 298 delegates away from the nomination...
by May 6, he will be around 198 delegates away from the nomination
This is indeed good news for Senator Obama...
April 28, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
The real countdown is to the majority of pledged delegates. It is available at http://www.obamaiswinning.com/
April 28, 2008 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another one rejects the mOnStEr. Well done, sir. Well done.
April 28, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
And according to Democratic Convention Watch's numbers, Obama has 18 Senate endorsement vs. Clinton's 13. Not sure how TPM is calculating their "by our count" math, but DCW (which is the most reliable) shows that TPM is off-the mark in Clinton's favor (again).
April 28, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
So super delegates, such as the Senator from New Mexico, should follow the will of the people, such as the people of New Mexico, except when they don't?
April 28, 2008 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton's camp has been harping that the SD's should "exercise their independent judgment." Looks like Bingaman did just that.
April 28, 2008 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
One could claim to be honoring the will of the voters if one voted for the candidate who carried ones constituents or if one voted for the candidate who has won nationaly. I have not heard anyone making the former argument but see it attacked as a strawman by the Clinton camp over and again but they wound not want for it to realy go that way since that would put him in the lead by about a two to one margin.
April 28, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eveyone knows N.M. does'nt really count. Too many Brown People.Unless its a primary, then it counts. A lot.
April 28, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are missing the key metric used to decide wether a vote counts. If it is a vote for Clinton it counts. If it is not it does not. Just ask Hillary. She will give you the rationalization of the day every time.
April 28, 2008 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama:
Sen. Bob Casey (Pa.)
Sen. Kent Conrad (N.D.)
Sen. Chris Dodd (Conn.)
Sen. Byron Dorgan (N.D.)
Sen. Dick Durbin (Ill.)
Sen. Tim Johnson (S.D.)
Sen. Edward Kennedy (Mass.)
Sen. John Kerry (Mass.)
Sen. Amy Klobuchar (Minn.)
Sen. Patrick Leahy (Vt.)
Sen. Claire McCaskill (Mo.)
Sen. Ben Nelson (Neb.)
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (W.Va.)
Sen. Jeff Bingaman (N.M.)
Clinton:
Sen. Evan Bayh (Ind.)
Sen. Maria Cantwell (Wash.)
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (Calif.)
Sen. Daniel Inouye (Hawaii)
Sen. Blanche Lincoln (Ark.)
Sen. Bob Menendez (N.J.)
Sen. Barbara Mikulski (Md.)
Sen. Patty Murray (Wash.)
Sen. Bill Nelson (Fla.)
Sen. Mark Pryor (Ark.)
Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.)
Sen. Debbie Stabenow (Mich.)
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (R.I.)
Obama and Clinton will presumably be voting for themselves. And shadow senators, unfortunately, aren't really senator.
April 28, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maria Cantwell has indicated she could switch, depending on the popular vote outcome.
April 28, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maria Cantwell has indicated she could switch, depending on the popular vote outcome.
Much better than the popular vote outcome:
So that's one that will go from Hillary to Obama. And there are five more who are uncommitted but have said they will support the candidate with the most pledged delegates.
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/03/superdelegates-pledging-to-back.html
If we count all of these for Obama, considering that he's got the pledged delegate lead even in the rosiest projections for Hillary, then Hillary's superdelegate advantage has dropped from over 100 to about 15.
April 28, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Man, more and more I get the impression that the SuperDels are somehow coordinated in their announcements of their support for Obama - not too many at once, not too fast, because it would look like piling on or trying to deny people their opportunity to vote.
April 28, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Geez, Hillary certainly got the majority (though by no means all) of the weasels in her pile, didn't she?
April 28, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Come on.
No one has done more for the people of New Mexico than Barack Obama.
April 28, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
big deal...
New Mexico is OVER ... get over it! She won that state.
However the REAL news is:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/28/sources-north-carolina-governor-to-back-clinton/
North Carolina governor is backing our gal Hillary!
She may even WIN NC too!!
Go girl!
Rae
April 28, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Senate isn't going to be the same friendly place it was before when Mrs. Clinton is returned to her day job in the next Congreff
April 28, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is just wonderful news. I couldn't be happier. The more SDs to go Obama, the better. And it just shows that despite his loss in PA, his support is still strong.
April 28, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink