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New Hillary Ad In North Carolina Stars Maya Angelou

Hillary Clinton has a new one-minute ad in North Carolina starring Maya Angelou, a clear play for black voters in a state where Barack Obama is counting on African-Americans to deliver a big victory for him:

Recent polls have shown Hillary closing the gap here, though she still trails in even her best numbers. However, if she can win Indiana and deprive Obama of a North Carolina landslide, that would go a very long way in making her case to super-delegates that Obama is really a weak candidate.


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Spin it and spin it hard!

"However, if she can win Indiana and deprive Obama of a North Carolina landslide, that would go a very long way in making her case to super-delegates that Obama is really a weak candidate."

That would only mean we've got two weak candidates. It would do nothing to suggest that she is the stronger of the two. All reasonable metrics point to the contrary...

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Spin?

To me, this:

"However, if she can win Indiana and deprive Obama of a North Carolina landslide, that would go a very long way in making her case to super-delegates that Obama is really a weak candidate."

sounds exactly like something HillaryClinton08!!!!! would write.

Recent polls have shown Hillary closing the gap here, though she still trails in even her best numbers. However, if she can win Indiana and deprive Obama of a North Carolina landslide, that would go a very long way in making her case to super-delegates that Obama is really a weak candidate.

How about:

Recent polls show Hillary improving her numbers and narrowing the gap with Obama. If she wins Indiana and deprives Obama of a North Carolina landslide, such an outcome may support her claim that Obama is a weak candidate.

"...though she still trails in even her best numbers."
I have no idea what this means.

My concern, too, is at the very end. It reads like the case makes itself, when in fact, it will be Hillary (or the media) making the case. We can say with confidence what she is likely to say. But cannot say with confidence how far that argument goes. Do you or anyone else here?

Also, why the extraneous modals and the passive tenses in the article?

OBAMA GIRL SHOULD DEBATE HILLARY !

Uleash the brightest spokescreature upon pants suit and get back on topic!

HOPE voters don't CHANGE their minds and lose HOPE

WHAT AN AMAZING AD!!!!!!!!!

I always have loved Maya Angelou's poetry, and she's a great speaker, but that ad is SO AMAZINGLY INSPIRING!!!

Eric, please stop with the unnecessary editorializing and speculation. I doubt that you have any particular insight into what makes a "good case" to the super-delegates. And please remember that she not only has to make a case that Obama is a weak candidate, but also that she is a stronger one--a nearly insurmountable task.

LOL. I was thinking the same thing. Love the bebop avatar by the way :)

Anime corgis rule!

Eric, you're only making your journalism rather suspect with the constant editorializing.

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So what?

I'll get accused of having this opinion just because I'm an Obama supporter, but the fact is that I have never been a fan of this woman's work. She is one of the worst poets of all time.


and yes, I'm an expert - I majored in English in undergrad. ;)

"Out of the huts of history's shame
I rise
Up from a past that's rooted in pain
I rise
I'm a black ocean, leaping and wide,
Welling and swelling I bear in the tide.
Leaving behind nights of terror and fear
I rise
Into a daybreak that's wondrously clear
I rise
Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave,
I am the dream and the hope of the slave.
I rise
I rise
I rise."

terrible, isn't it?

i wonder if she had endorsed obama, your tune would have changed.

but as a fan of miss angelou, i and the rest of her readers tip our hats and send out a "fuck off" to you this fine day.

She certainly appears to be endorsing Obama's metaphors in that ad.

Classy, okee.

I'm sure Ms. Angelou would find your hostility and profanity touching.

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Now, if Toni Morrison had endorsed Hillary, I might be sad.

Maya Angelou is so bogus nobody has been that bogus since Carl Sandburg, who was a marginally better poet.

But only marginally.

These "national" poets generally suck.

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Smile! Toni Morrison endorsed Obama.

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I thought that was right.

Ha, I came here to make the same claim.

Angelou: nice lady, great woman, weak poet.

Morrison: total freaking badass.

Absolutely agreed. Maya Angelou has had a fascinating life, and her memoir was painful and interesting. She's been a good literary citizen.

But she's out of her league when it comes to Obama-supporter Toni Morrison. I teach this shit, and the inaugural poem she wrote for the Clintons was terrible. How about this for a closer?

Here on the pulse of this new day
You may have the grace to look up and out
And into your sister's eyes, into
Your brother's face, your country
And say simply
Very simply
With hope
Good morning

Can you get any more trite?

Here on the pulse of this new primary
You may lack grace, and instead look with bloodlust
And stare into the eyes of pansy nerds, into
Your party's base, its most loyal supporters
And say angrily
Very angrily
With anger
I will obliterate you

Loggins, you magic wordsmith, you.

Kenny, you are clearly not all right and have entered the danger zone......


[halfway across the sky....? too much?]

Nice

Yikes. I hope she's not web savvy, would hate for her to search and find us bantering so, since she's such a great force for literature.

That said, here's Morrison from her Obama endorsement letter:

"Our future is ripe, outrageously rich in its possibilities. Yet unleashing the glory of that future will require a difficult labor, and some may be so frightened of its birth they will refuse to abandon their nostalgia for the womb."

Probably unfair to make such comparisons between such different writers, but damn...

Here's my favorite Toni Morrison comment in the echo chamber. Comes from a black avatar Obama supporter called fabooj, who apparently didn't know Morrison supported Obama, too.

"You quote Toni Morrison like she has credibility. She's the moron who said that Bill Clinton was the "first black president", thereby ensuring her status as Queen HN for the Clinton's."

She/he thought Morrison was complimenting Clinton by saying he might be the first black President. So, without bothering to read Morrison in the New Yorker, labels her a "moron."

And fabooj wasn't the only loyal Obamanaut to jump on Morrison without looking. He/she is just a good example of what goes on whenever the Clintons come up in any context. Nothing personal fabooj.

And of course, the establishment is now well on the way to doing to Obama what Morrison pointed out they were doing to Clinton.

Only in the echo chamber.

Sometimes you connect with the energy of a performer and sometimes you don't. As an academic, you know the limits of poetry on the page. I've experienced Maya Angelou in person. It's a good ad that will help Hillary. Agree with the comment upthread. It's part of Hillary's call to her base. The difference between Hillary and Obama is that when she makes her call it's so natural you don't even know she's doing it. With Obama, his call sticks out like a sore thumb.

Ha ha ha! oh man..

Yeah, dude, so right. I don't even notice when Hillary plugs her website and begs for money. Her calls are, like, damn... its so smooth! You are so right that Obama totally sucks at that. He's about as smooth as a not-smooth-at-all thingie.

maybe if you throw your own posts in the mix, perhaps.

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Disagree.

Sandburg was brilliant. Totally. He wrote commonly worded poetry for the common man.He spoke out against the fat cats and was a persuasive voice for labor.

I have no doubt he annoys elitists.

As for dissing all the National Poets, I happen to be a Joseph Brodsky fan, and was fortunate enough to have heard him recite his poetry. It's more melodic in Russian, but it is in the same spirit as Sandburg.

Perhaps one needs to be blue-collar to appreciate them, as well as Angelou.

At any rate, I find ridiculing these artists works as being the epitome of 'poor taste.'

Recent polls have shown Hillary closing the gap here, though she still trails in even her best numbers. However, if she can win Indiana and deprive Obama of a North Carolina landslide, that would go a very long way in making her case to super-delegates that Obama is really a weak candidate.
Setting expectations now, are we? I can't fathom why people think you're in the tank for Clinton, Eric...
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He's not just in the tank, that tank is in Looking Glass Land, where up is down, back is forth and red is blue.

Cause she can't catch up. It's stupid to suggest otherwise and anyone with a functioning brain is going to have to face the facts sooner or later - and it's looking like sooner.

A veritable lobster quadrille.

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O good one!


Were you a cheerleader in highschool?

What ondioline and Ein said. You really don't know what the fuck you're talking about, so quit with the editorializing.

We know you're in the tank for Hillary, since every comment that seems to be your own thought is spun in her direction.

Just report the story, and end it.

My local impression is that black voters are really determined to see Obama elected. This is a waste of resources, and there are very few persuadable black voters left.

The way I see it, Clinton's folks aleady set the bar for a "big" victory at 9.2%. A perfect storm for Hillary would hold Obama to 35% of the white vote, 85% of the black vote, with black voters only 35% of the electorate. That gives Obama a NC floor of 52.5%, without taking heavy early voting into account (which even SUSA pegs at 57/39 Obama).

As with the national delegate count, there's just way to get around the math.

shameless eric, shameless

that would go a very long way in making her case to super-delegates that Obama is really a weak candidate.

I deride your prognosticating abilities. No prognosticator you!

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However, if she can win Indiana and deprive Obama of a North Carolina landslide, that would go a very long way in making her case to super-delegates that Obama is really a weak candidate.

Much as Clinton's wins in Ohio and Pennsylvania caused superdelegates to rally to her side en masse. Oh wait...

"that would go a very long way in making her case to super-delegates that Obama is really a weak candidate."

Didn't you just post about Obama having most of the super delegates already supporting him.

Since Hillary likes to play the guilt by association game:

Here is a video of Maya Angelou being honored by Reverend Jeremiah

Wrighhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41nDcTF9iC0

Hillary should explain her relationship with Farrakhan then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41nDcTF9iC0


Second try to post the link.

This is another example of Bill's favors coming home to roost for Hillary & why Obama is/was always an underdog:

Maya Angelou was thrust into nat'l prominence by her affiliation with Clinton's inauguration. Just like Ed Rendell's wife, Midge, was appointed to the federal bench by Clinton & then nominated to the Court of Appeals by Clinton.

Maya Angelou was a national prominent, highly respected and esteemed figure in literature in her own right BEFORE she did her poem at the inauguration. Can you say National Book Awards, Pulitzer, Tony award? That's why she was chosen as the national poet, not as part of a grand master plan to have her support Hillary in 2008 when she's running against Obama. Why can't Maya be supporting Hillary because she (like me) thinks Hillary is the best candidate for the job rather than as a favor?

Because you can't seriously think that. I mean, really, how can anyone seriously think that?

Our education system really is in a shambles if that's the case.

The philosophy in the classroom of this generation is the philosophy of government in the next. โ€“ Abraham Lincoln

Eric, you had to know that last line would make a bunch of people crazy.

Why, because it is BS editorializing just designed to stir the pot. Hillary by 2 in Indiana, Obama by 10 in NC....where does that leave us? Right where we are now, with Hillary behind, and no path to the nomination that doesn't involve splitering the party.

Yeah, she's practically a shoo-in.

And what, exactly would make the case to the superdelegates that Hillary Clinton is really a weak candidate? Being 150+ behind in pledged delegates, maybe? Losing 30 out of 45 contests, perhaps?

Easy answer to that question.

The super delegates have been looking for a candidate that is tougher than the violence prone punch drunk, Rocky Balboa. The Terror of Tuzla is their Man!!!

The super delegates have been looking for a candidate that is tougher than the violence prone punch drunk, Rocky Balboa. The Terror of Tuzla is their Man!!!

don't forget pansy! punch drunk, pansy!!

That makes sense, Obama wins twice as many states as her, and he wins many of his by huge landslides, and HE is the weak candidate.

I do love that you eat up their spin.

the slamming of maya angelou in this thread is really beneath you guys... i wish you could just show a modicum of class.

amen.

I am sure that I will only further irritate my fellow Obama supporters by saying this but Kensdad is right. I confess that I am not an English major, but I enjoy Dr Angelou's poetry. It sounds like nothing but sour grapes to criticize her in a thread like this.

Oh, kensdad. Nothing is beneath them.

In other threads they slam Toni Morrison. Anyone they sense is in any way associated with the Clintons. If you read Morrison on Clinton as a "black" President and recall that Obama thought it was about hoops and dancing when he was asked during the SC debate, you have to wonder. Who are these people?

She is a fine poet, unlike her candidate of choice. Perhaps she can stand behind the curtain and do all the speaking for Lena Lamont Clinton.

A well-filmed man!

Here's Maya's tribute to Hillary written after the Potomac primaries when the media was saying all was lost for Hillary - simple, heartfelt and steeped in simple truths. Another reason why I love Dr. Angelou:

You may write me down in history

With your bitter, twisted lies,

You may tread me in the very dirt

But still, like dust, I'll rise.

This is not the first time you have seen Hillary Clinton seemingly at her wits' end, but she has always risen, always risen, don't forget she has always risen, much to the dismay of her adversaries and the delight of her friends.

Hillary Clinton will not give up on you and all she asks of you is that you do not give up on her.

There is a world of difference between being a woman and being an old female. If you're born a girl, grow up, and live long enough, you can become an old female. But to become a woman is a serious matter. A woman takes responsibility for the time she takes up and the space she occupies. Hillary Clinton is a woman. She has been there and done that and has still risen. She is in this race for the long haul. She intends to make a difference in our country. Hillary Clinton intends to help our country to be what it can become.

She declares she wants to see more smiles in the family, more courtesies between men and women, more honesty in the marketplace. She is the prayer of every woman and man who longs for fair play, healthy families, good schools, and a balanced economy.

She means to rise.

Don't give up on Hillary. In fact, if you help her to rise, you will rise with her and help her make this country the wonderful, wonderful place where every man and every woman can live freely without sanctimonious piety and without crippling fear.

Rise, Hillary.

Rise.

Dust in the wind.

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"bitter lies"

"wit's end"

Irony or foresight?

Eric Kleefeld said:

a clear play for black voters

No, it isn't. It's an ad to appeal to women voters. Did you watch the ad? Out of 12 black-and-white still images, 10 are of women or girls.

Everyone else can stop mentioning Toni Morrison, who, while awesome, doesn't live in North Carolina. Maya Angelou teaches in Winston-Salem.

Tar Heels are loyal to their own, and will respond emotionally to Angelou out of respect. This is a smart ad.

lol should have known it was you.

shout-out to billy glad!

and also to kensdad!

Maya might pull as many as 20 black votes statewide into Hillary's column from Obama's.

The ad isn't even about the black vote.

Is it about the: More Manly than Rocky Balboa, Feminist votes!!!

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It's about the mediocre poet vote.

You get the mediocre comment award.

you have no idea what you're talking about. what's your street cred with the NC african american community?

Perhaps this just indicates that I am a brainless booby who ought not to be allowed to tie his own shoes let alone cast a vote, but I liked this ad. I mean really liked this ad. I hate myself for saying it, because it was a transparent mass of emotional manipulation, but it was at least an effective (if transparent) mass of emotional manipulation. If I had a vote to cast in the NC primary, and this ad were played shortly before I went to the polls, I do not know that I would not vote for Sen Clinton as a result.

You see? The bagpipe has put you in touch with your emotional indeterminate, undifferentiated continuum, Scientist!

I liked it too Greg. I wish she would have done more like this from the beginning. It would have made the choice much harder.

Is it just me, or does the ad sound like it's describing Obama more than Hillary?

"She dares to say, human beings are more alike than we are unalike."

I mean, Obama doesn't have a monopoly on this kind of talk, obviously, but I wonder if people will see this as an honest ad, or just a blatant appeal to Obama voters.

That is exactly why I like it so much. It is clearly meant to push all the same rhetorical buttons that Obama pushes in heads like mine. I am ashamed of myself for finding it so compelling, as it rather gives the lie to all of the exterior, intellectual reasons which I profess to motivate my choice. In any event, it is clear a very effective ad for at least some particular demographic. Thank goodness I do not live in NC and am thus beyond the reach of such sorcery.

fyi, Greg, Maya Angelou was born in St. Louis.

You're allowed to like the ad without shame, btw. It's complicated: Angelou's distinctive voice and poetic cadences gently guide us forward. To fix the echo in the room, they added a lilting flute to support Angelou's clear tones. Can you i.d. the piece of music? I can't.

Warm colors of the video footage is intercut with a slide show of contrasting b&w still images. As with other Clinton ads, the words themselves are very simple, minimal. Here, the visuals are layered, creating a complicated texture. In this particular ad, the audio is complicated too.

Two interwoven strands (visual and audio) woven together: the result is like music or flowing water. It's very well done. Maybe you connect with the musical quality of it.

Personally, I'm impressed with the creativity of Clinton's ads.

They can't let it go, their candidate is so gone at this point in terms of electibility that they can't figure out what has happened. Look, he just hasn't worn well and the chickens are coming home to roost. Dennis Kucinich, where are you?

Oh, Edwards must be in despair that he got out so soon!

dijamo: "She has been there and done that . . ."

That's the point. She's had her time in the WH. She's had her chance to save health care and the environment and civil rights. Now it's time to let the next generation take center stage and put their ideas to the test.

You make the point that she's a woman. But she depends so heavily on Bill to carry her across the finish line. Her "experience" consists of standing beside her husband.

it's posts like this that really piss me off (and i can only imagine how pissed off i'd be if i were a female supporter of hillary clinton!)

hillary is a strong candidate with experience, toughness, and a brilliant mind.

belittling her as bill's little woman is more than just offensive.

maybe i'm expecting too much, but i would assume that obama supporters would be equally offended.

Senator Obama is the John Edwards of 2004. Young, talented, rock star popularity, hopeful and not experienced enough to have detailed piolicies about where they want to take this country. On the issues that matter most to me health care, economic policy, foreclosure plan, restoring our strength in the world diplomatically - Hilalry's got the better plans and I believe the fortitude to withstand the inevitable attacks that will come her way if she is the nominee.

That said, I do not believe Obama can win the general election anymore. Look at the polls - he is losing independents and Obamacans in key states because people are questioning his true character and what he stands with the rev wright scandal, nafta gate, "bitter" comments. I honestly don't believe he can win. So while at the begininng of this race I was strongly for Hillary but would have been happy with Obama, I believe he cannot win and this election is too damn important to nominatte a fatally flawed candidate.

It is entirely possible, as you say, that Obama is no longer electable, but I am wholly unconvinced that Sen Clinton is any more electable than Sen Obama by this point. As such, to say that this election is too important to run a weak candidate, while no doubt true, is no sort of argument in Sen Clinton's favor.

It IS an argument if you look at polls in key swing states like OH, PA, MO, FL and see Senator Clinton is outperforming Obama in general election polls against McCain. If I were a superdelegate, that would matter to me most of all. Who can win?

Your list of "key" swing states is rather selective. Obama is outperforming Clinton against McCain in CO, WI, MN, WA, OR, IA, NH, ME and MI.

PA+OH+FL+MO=79 electoral votes. WI+MN+WA+OR+MI+IA+NH+ME=79 votes.

In other words, it seems to me that your argument supposes that the superdelegates are the sorts of folks who think that 5 twenty dollar bills are worth more than 20 five dollar bills and I am not sure how reliable an assumption that is.

Please keep in mind the general election has not yet begun. John Kerry a war hero and patriot was swiftboated by the RNC. Are you naive enough to think they are not going to be able to capitalize on Obama's ass'n with Reverend Wright? He preaches bipartisanship and bridging divides, but has very little legislatively to show working across party lines and has been "branded" as the most liberal senator by liberals. He made those stupid ass comments about "bitter" small town voters clinging to guns and god as an explanation of why he hasn't built traction for his campaign among that group. He's damaged goods and can't win the general.

Right, like I said, if your claim is that Obama will face an uphill climb, I am not sure that I disagree with you. I am simply unconvinced that Clinton is any less damaged a set of goods at this point. If she were really the strong candidate you are making her out to be, why is she losing? Do you imagine that, just because everyone is presently chattering breathlessly about "Rev Wright..." this and "William Ayers..." that, that FOX news & al will speak not a word about Norman Hsu or Mark Rich or the million and one equally idiotic distractions which the republicans would rather we focus on instead of the issues.

In other words, Clinton has just as much damage by this point as Obama. The only difference is that, because he is presently ahead, his damage is getting all the press ink. I would be surprised if the supers were really oblivious to this fact.

By the way - it's not me making the point that she's a woman. Those were Maya Angelou's words and she did not say she was voting for Hillary because she is a woman.

I don't vote based on gender or ethnicity - I vote based on the candidate whose policies are closest to what I believe is in the best interests of the country. Universal Healthcare. Strong Foreclosure and Economic policy.

Finally Hillary is much more than Bill Clinton's wife. She is accomplished in her own right as a lawyer, advocate for women and children, policy wonk who is incredibly knowledgable about the challenges facing our country including healthcare, education among others. She's a strong senator for my state and I have seen her as a hard worker in the senate getting stuff done(not the media hound that is my other senator schumer who is lovable but a media hound).

she is a smart, intelligent, accomplished woman in her own right who happens to be married to bill clinton. Chelsea said she believes Hill will be a better president than bill and I believe that too. She's a strong advocate for what she believes is right and is less likely to waver in political opposition. For you to diminish her experience and what she has done for her entire life as just being bill's wife is downright insulting.

Props to Maya Angelou... can't wait to read her new poem "Gas Tax Holiday."

Wonder if Hillary's black voter suppression campaign in NC will inspire some more magic from the pen of the great poet, Ms. Angelou.

How would that show that Obama is a "weak candidate?"
My what a short memory the media has: was it really just seven months ago that Clinton led by double digit in all national polls; was called "the inevitable candidate"; had outraised everyone else; has a former President campaigning her and now SHE is losing in contests won; delegate count: and popular vote by an upstart - an African American man raised by a single mother ?

You tell me who's the weaker candidate!

Who's Maya Angelou ? Somehow I don't think she's gonna be swayin' too many AA voters in North Carolina.

Here on the pulse of this cheap gas
You may have the grace to swipe card and pump
And into your F150's tank, into
Your SUV, your Hummer
And say simply
Very simply
With hope
Screw 'em, Bill!

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Well, I guess maybe poetry doesn't appeal to everyone, but maybe that's because they haven't really read much of it.

There are millions of people that do read it and enjoy it.

Poets have always had their critics, as like visual artists, they reflect their times. Although the ones that endure also capture something of the commonality of those experiences.

Reading Rupert Brooke, Wilfred Owen, and Charles Sorley helped me to understand the tragedy of war more than any graphic news program could have.

Poetry isn't something most people get in their educations. For instance, "Fog" is in every school kids textbook, but very little, if anything else of Sandburg is taught. Maya Angelou, onoh, is a staple in High School Literature Books, and rightly so. I find it hard to believe that people haven't heard of her.

The great, perhaps greatest, poet of the 20th Century, William Buster Yeats, was very politically involved, indeed. It is a good platform to address social injustices, and their voices are generally infuencial, as their readers, like them, tend to reflect on matters both great and small.

Belittling the talent of Ms. Angelou only exposes the writer to the observation that they aren't terribly familiar with her writings. That's a shame.

http://www.poemhunter.com/maya-angelou/

Try reading some. Enlightenment comes to those that seek it out.

I have no quarrel with Maya Angelou, and she has every right to endorse and support the candidate of her choice. I would vote for Maya for President.

She over came a horrific childhood.

Her book, I know why the caged bird sings, is a compelling biography. For those of you who have not already read it, you should be able to find a copy at your local library.

Good. I think you're someone who understands art and artists and the way literature and poetry synthesize real experience. The academics way up stream have some living to do.

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Butler, not Buster.

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Yes, sorry. I normally think of him as "Yeats"

One more time, bee. The echo chamber (i know) is a better place with you in it.

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Right back atcha Billy.

:)

I second Billy, w-bee.

What baloney.

If she'd have endorsed Obama you naval-picking Rod McKuen groupies would be hanging her out to dry.

Yeah, sure... anyone who feels misgivings about Maya endorsing The Monster doesn't understand poetry. And they're sexist, too. Don't forget to throw that one in there...

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No, I would never rip apart Ms. Angelou. I am an aficionado of poetry, not Clinton.

The fact that you reduce this to an Obama v. Clinton disagreement shows the level of your criticism.

I have found that on the whole, elitists do not like poets that talk about injustice, or use common words and alliteration.

For some reason, it makes them a bit uncomfortable. I think it may have something to do with social conditioning.

When the mob started chanting it always meant trouble for the ruling er, 'class.'

An aficionado of poetry? Show me your badge.

Ah, sophomore year...

Obama's mentor Reverend Wright doesn't believe human beings are more alike than unalike. In fact he clearly blabbers at the NAACP dinner this week that blacks are right-brained and incapable of sitting still in the classroom, while Europeans and European-Americans are left-brained, logical and analytical.

This is why this ad resonate so strongly to many of us.

Maya Angelou and Rev. Wright are friends. He turned up to honor her recently at St. Sabina's church in Chicago. It is on YouTube. Maya has not rejected or denounced him, and was delighted to hug and embrace him.

As she or anyone else should be proud to do. I admire the man. I would probably holler back about that AIDS bullshit, but everything else I've heard him say is true. Even he probably knows the AIDS rant should have been phrased "if they could have" or if it didn't exist they would have or something like that.

I like Wright better than Obama.

You people who dis Maya Angelou just floor me.

Here's some poetry for ya...

The Obama people are boring me to pieces
Feel like I am wasting my time
They all got flannel up 'n down 'em
A little trap-door back aroun' 'em
An' some cozy little footies on their mind....

Obama people!
It's an Obama people special . . .
Take one home with you, save a dollar today
Obama people!
Obama people, people!
Wrap 'em up
Roll 'em out
Get 'em out of my way
Hein nya-nya-hein nya-nya-hein nya-nya-hein
HOEY! HOEY! HOEY!

(Sorry, Frank, I hadda do it.... ;)

Maya Angelou with her friend Rev. Wright.

OK. Clintoniacs; start your guilt by association engines on this one. You know, since Maya and Wright are friends, then what does that make Hillary. You know the rules of the smear game. You invented them. I dare you to now apply them to Hillary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41nDcTF9iC0

sheila Jackson Lee is good friends with Rev Wright also. Rev Wright speaks at her church annually.
More guilt by association.
Rev Wright was invited to the WH by the Clintons.
Rev Wright was invited to give a sermon in LittleRock by the Clintons.
Ed Rendell is good buddies with Farrakhan.

Lots of guilt by association for Hillary, including Rezko who donated to Hillary in Chicago. Hill and Bill were the conduits for Obama to meet Rezko as a way of thanking him for registering 100K to propell Bill's IL win in 92.

We can handle all the guilt you can shovel our way. And we can do it without pushing our grandmothers, our spiritual guides and our community under the bus.

Commnetary on this ad could have proceeded without attacking Maya Angelou. Really is it necessary?

What creeps me out is watching Angelou praise Clinton as she sits a few feet away nodding. That is creepy. She is not a modest person, that's for sure.

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Is it attacking a poet and writer to say you don't like their work?


I don't think so. I don't like her work. I didn't like her work before she was in the ad. I didn't like her work when she wrote that truly Junior High level hokey damn poem for Bill.

She's a lousy poet. Now that's not attacking, that's a criticism and I have standards in literature and if you don't - too bad for you.

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Not really.

That was an opinion, and like aaholes, everyone's got one. A criticism actually says something.

As to what your "standards" are, let me guess...lots of $2.00 words, uptight construction, regularly measured, and everything rhymes.

Right?

Oh, and the poet has to belong to the "leisured" class and have been dead for 80 years, at least.

Tena, you called Angelou the worst poet of all time:

She is one of the worst poets of all time.

I prefer Angelou's prose myself, and I think her contribution to American writing is immeasurable. I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings is on a par with Mary Karr's Liar's Club: they read as fiction.

As with any writer, not all of Toni Morrison's work is of equal power, either. I drove the formidable Ms. Morrison from Louisville to Cincinnati once, and she talked about how her editor made her stop writing Beloved before Morrison felt it was finished. Beloved won the Pulitzer, yes, but I'll never forget how unhappy Morrison was with it the day we drove through the gently rolling Kentucky countryside. Even though Beloved is special to me because of that day, I'll always prefer The Bluest Eye.

Fair enough, Betty. Top two poets? Top two novelists? Top two short story writers? Give us a frame of reference. Three is okay if they flip around on you sometimes. Mine do that to me. Also fair to group by period.

How about one book on a desert island for the rest of your life?

Last time I thought about it: Blood Meridian.

You?

Blood Meridian certainly takes on the nostalgic view of the good ol' West and our defense of liberty in the Mexican Wars. If we could only remember the Alamo - without John Wayne in the middle of the frame.

A poem from William Butler Yeats. Mr. Yeats was a snob, a great one, but a snob never the less. He was the keener at the wake for feudal Ireland.


A PRAYER FOR MY DAUGHTER

ONCE more the storm is howling, and half hid
Under this cradle-hood and coverlid
My child sleeps on. There is no obstacle
But Gregory's wood and one bare hill
Whereby the haystack- and roof-levelling wind.
Bred on the Atlantic, can be stayed;
And for an hour I have walked and prayed
Because of the great gloom that is in my mind.

I have walked and prayed for this young child an hour
And heard the sea-wind scream upon the tower,
And-under the arches of the bridge, and scream
In the elms above the flooded stream;
Imagining in excited reverie
That the future years had come,
Dancing to a frenzied drum,
Out of the murderous innocence of the sea.

May she be granted beauty and yet not
Beauty to make a stranger's eye distraught,
Or hers before a looking-glass, for such,
Being made beautiful overmuch,
Consider beauty a sufficient end,
Lose natural kindness and maybe
The heart-revealing intimacy
That chooses right, and never find a friend.

Helen being chosen found life flat and dull
And later had much trouble from a fool,
While that great Queen, that rose out of the spray,
Being fatherless could have her way
Yet chose a bandy-legged smith for man.
It's certain that fine women eat
A crazy salad with their meat
Whereby the Horn of plenty is undone.

In courtesy I'd have her chiefly learned;
Hearts are not had as a gift but hearts are earned
By those that are not entirely beautiful;
Yet many, that have played the fool
For beauty's very self, has charm made wise.
And many a poor man that has roved,
Loved and thought himself beloved,
From a glad kindness cannot take his eyes.

May she become a flourishing hidden tree
That all her thoughts may like the linnet be,
And have no business but dispensing round
Their magnanimities of sound,
Nor but in merriment begin a chase,
Nor but in merriment a quarrel.
O may she live like some green laurel
Rooted in one dear perpetual place.

My mind, because the minds that I have loved,
The sort of beauty that I have approved,
Prosper but little, has dried up of late,
Yet knows that to be choked with hate
May well be of all evil chances chief.
If there's no hatred in a mind
Assault and battery of the wind
Can never tear the linnet from the leaf.

An intellectual hatred is the worst,
So let her think opinions are accursed.
Have I not seen the loveliest woman born
Out of the mouth of plenty's horn,
Because of her opinionated mind
Barter that horn and every good
By quiet natures understood
For an old bellows full of angry wind?

Considering that, all hatred driven hence,
The soul recovers radical innocence
And learns at last that it is self-delighting,
Self-appeasing, self-affrighting,
And that its own sweet will is Heaven's will;
She can, though every face should scowl
And every windy quarter howl
Or every bellows burst, be happy still.

And may her bridegroom bring her to a house
Where all's accustomed, ceremonious;
For arrogance and hatred are the wares
Peddled in the thoroughfares.
How but in custom and in ceremony
Are innocence and beauty born?
Ceremony's a name for the rich horn,
And custom for the spreading laurel tree.

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