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New Hillary Ad In Indiana: She'll Oppose Unfair Trade Deals
Hillary Clinton has a new ad in Indiana featuring popular Sen. Evan Bayh, who declares that Hillary will have "a spine of steel" in fighting for the state's workers:
Interestingly, Bayh promises that Hillary will fight against unfair trade deals — a sign of just how off-message Mark Penn was in his dealings with the Colombian government. It's not clear whether this ad was taped before or after the Penn story hit.
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I think this is a tense issue. Grammatically speaking.
"A spine of steel" is present.
"A stolen spine" would be past, yes?
Then, for Hillary, it should be past tense. And, like O.J., we should be looking for the culprit.
April 7, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ahemmm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/07/penn-speaks-in-private-wi_n_95508.html
April 7, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
The incriminating part of this story is the description of the client of the lobbying firm who was "panicked" over the news that Penn has been fired from the Clinton campaign. And the purpose of the call seems to have been to reassure everyone that he'll still be advising her. Hmm. It sort of sounds like their clients hired the firm because they thought it would give them influence over a potential POTUS or, at the very least, a powerful NY senator and if he loses her ear they'll lose that business.
Reminds me of that guy...you know, Jack...Jack...Abramoff.
April 7, 2008 8:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sounds right to me.
April 7, 2008 11:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Once again, Clinton leads on this issue and Obama follows her lead.
Her position is no free trade deals until the trade policy is changed.
Her position is to boycott the opening ceremonies of the Olympics.
What is Obama's position? He always waits for the leader's decision. That is not leadership.
See, she is the leader and he is the follower.
Clinton/Obama, if you do not want to lose three in a row.
April 7, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd tell you to check your facts, but um, I know that's not going to happen.
April 7, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
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April 7, 2008 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mark Penn wasn't off message. He was doing exactly what he was hired to do, from both sides.
Had the primary been over by Feb 5th, no one would have noticed.
April 7, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Evan Bayh, my friend, you have negative charisma.
April 7, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's going to be quite difficult for Sen. Clinton to overcome the damage putting Mark Penn in charge of her campaign has caused to her image with unions. Obviously - there goes a big part of her base.
And that's what I kept saying about the people she had around her - I knew if she didn't do herself in, they'd do it for her.
[shakes head]
Not even any plausible deniability. Didn't she learn a thing from Bill?
April 7, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
The ad, followed by breaking news on the unions continue to demand Penn should be
"fully" fired.
April 7, 2008 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
A Spine of Steel, A Kevlar Pantsuit, A BS Cannon,
and a Red Phone Trigger Finger.
When you will believe any old Fairy Tale,
Who are you going to call?"
Hillary's Truth Busters Squad, that is who.
Lying with the best of them, for over thirty five years.
I am Hillary Rambo Clinton, The Heroine of Tuzla,
and I can dupe you with this message.
April 7, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL.
April 7, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, I just don't think a spine of steel is an asset.
The inflexible break under pressure.
April 7, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
A spine of Jello is more like it. Actions talks and BS walks.
Until Hillary addresses the fact that she has a BIg Time Lobbyist in her midst that is fighting the a Union position, this is add is the height of hypocracy. IF she can not deal with lobbyist now who have been running her campaign, how can any one trust her once she has won the presidency?
Sad to see Evan Bayh get blind sided like this. At one time I thought he was a new democritic leader that could talk beyond the partisan divide - now he just looks tone deaf.
April 7, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh-oh
Mark Penn Speaks (In Private): Will Still Advise Clintons, Calms Nervous Aides
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/07/penn-speaks-in-private-wi_n_95508.html
April 7, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
The incriminating part of this story is the description of the client of lobbying firm who was "panicked" over the news that Penn has been fired from the Clinton campaign. And the purpose of the call seems to have been to reassure everyone that he'll still be advising her. Hmm. It sort of sounds like their clients hired the firm because they thought it would give them influence over a potential POTUS or, at the very least, a powerful NY senator and if he loses her ear they'll lose that business.
Reminds me of that guy...you know, Jack...Jack...Abramoff.
April 7, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton Hospital Story May Actually Be True:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/07/clinton-hospital-story-ma_n_95493.html
Another trend like Obama's failed leadership.
Accused of lying, proof she told the truth or she admits mistakes.
Her leadership to boycott the opening ceremonies is playing out well.
Where is the follower Obama's position.
April 7, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
And Sen. Clinton might actually be a robot that's programmed not to only come *so* close to telling the truth.
I mean, nobody can prove that any number of ridiculous stories didn't happen, but that doesn't mean that campaign speeches should be filled with ridiculous stories.
Besides, you missed the point. The point is not that the story is probably not true.
The point is that the story is implausible, and that by not checking it, the wonk-in-chief and truth-telling candidate Sen. Clinton has failed on her own touted strengths.
April 7, 2008 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Read both article.
Find the part that says "The jury is still out"
It means the jury is still out.
April 7, 2008 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Put down the megaphone for a moment.
It was Nancy Pelosi that first wanted to make a statement regarding the Olympics, not Hillary.
Nice try though.
April 7, 2008 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I admire your steadfast dedication to your candidate. Nothing wrong with supporting your POV. While most people here, including myself, seem to be leaning obama's way, you defy the tide and stick with your fighter, math be damned! Despite this, your messages would be much more convincing if you changed your avatar. It makes you seem as if you're anti-obama and going for hillary, not b/c she's Hillary, but b/c she's not Obama. you dig?
April 7, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Deputy Sheriff that told Hillary the story, had no first hand knowledge of any of it, and did not even know the woman who died. He was passing on hearsay, and Hillary just ran with it.
Yes we need to fix the health care system, but we also need to deal in facts.
Was the woman turned away because she did not have a $100.00 or not. What is the truth.
If she did not go, because she assumed she would be turned away because she did not have a $100.00 then that is a far different thing. Is that what happened.
What is her family situation. Did she have other children. She was 35 years of age. Did she have a husband, or was there a father involved. Could she not get $100.00 from any family member or friend for a medical emergency.
Please flesh out the truth, instead of pretending that Hillary was spreading the gospel truth. She was not.
She was telling a bunch of hearsay from a person she never met before, and who did not have any first hand knowledge of what actually happened.
Hillary was very careless in how she choose to accept what a stranger told her, and just run with it.
What next, will she run with a story about a woman finding a finger in her chili at Wendy's!
April 8, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary Clinton on Trade Deals
Help us, help you, help your enemies.
Funding both sides of the debate since her candidacy was Penn'd.
Paid for by Colombians for Clinton '08
April 7, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gosh, I read that 'spine of steel' thing and thought,
'What, Hillary had her back fused?
Is she fighting a battle to stay upright?'
April 7, 2008 6:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
She'll oppose unfair trade deals?
Why would she start now? Hasn't she and her husband done enough with NAFTA and Most Favored Nation status for China?
April 7, 2008 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would say tossing Grandma and Shultz under the bus is another trend showing Obama has no spine.
Just another lying spineless dem.
April 7, 2008 6:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unlike your own pathetic centrist candidate, who's followed her husband's lead away from liberalism.
Hillary Clinton threw progressives under the bus, which is by far a worse crime.
April 7, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Spine of Steel
LMAO
April 7, 2008 6:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, Shultz is showing spine by staying with his McCain is a warmonger comment even though Obama tossed him under the bus like Grandma. Caving to McCain's demand is spineless.
Clinton is showing spine by getting the troops an exit stategy and wants them out of there. Then shows spine on leading for new trade policies.
Then she is showing to spine to China and sending them a message about their support of the genocide in Darfur and Tibet.
Where is Obama's spine?
Good luck finding it.
April 7, 2008 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Spine of Steel
April 7, 2008 6:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
But is it "human"???
http://www.upcominghorrormovies.com/movies/itsalive.jpg
April 7, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I listen to Big Eddie's show. Do you?
He himself said that he appreciates the way Obama handled it.
..but that's OK, when before have you let a simple thing like the facts come in the way of you trying to throw Obama under the bus.
April 7, 2008 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
under the bus
under the bus
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(teleprompter loses power)
April 7, 2008 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
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April 7, 2008 10:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would ask you to look at this story and substitute my name for Sen. Obama’s name and see what you would do with this story… Just ask yourself [what you would do] if some of my advisers had been having private meetings with foreign governments.
April 7, 2008 6:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
To be fair, I must first commend Clinton for sticking with positive advertising. I do appreciate that she's communicating a positive message.
Unfortunately, it's a positively bullshit.
Hillary Clinton - Standing up for workers rights while funneling millions of dollars to union-buster Mark Penn.
Union workers, it's 3 a.m. Do you know where your Clinton donations are?
April 7, 2008 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you're a lowly paid worker sending her campaign $50 monthly, knowing that she made 109 million in 7 years and knowing that the largest line item on her campaign budget is paying Mark Penn, who is also taking 300,000 from a foreign government in a deal that could cost you your job, I don't understand why you would trust and support Hillary.
April 7, 2008 6:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fighting unfair trade deals? Spine of Steel? lol
The Clinton campagin gets more comical everyday. I just want to thank her for continuing to try and build a case on quicksand. The more she points out these absurd claims...the more ridiculous she looks.
She did not fight NAFTA...she CLAIMS to have been against it, yet she supported and rallied for it in meetings and she her support for it has been clearly documented. But we're supposed to take her word for it and not what the evidence clearly shows?
She maligned Obama for his unpaid economic advisor for making a few offhand comments about NAFTA that were misinterpreted by an idiot official...only to have her own Chief Strategist that has received 10% of her donations meet with the Colombian Government on a paid assignment to lobby for a free trade agreement. Now that is comedy. The only people still falling for her crap are not paying attention or they are just crazy (like one seriously disturbed poster on this site who has nothing better to do than to spread lies all day).
April 7, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
and you know she'll oppose unfair trade deals because she said so.
just like she said she opposed nafta. just like she said she was under sniper fire. just like she said a woman was turned away from a hospital and died because she didn't have 100 dollars. just like she said michigan "wasn't going to count for anything". just like she said she was against the iraq war even though she voted for it..
get it yet?
Hillary will say anything and change nothing.
April 7, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I, for one, am delighted that Senator Hillary Rambo Clinton,
The Heroine of Tuzla, has made a full recovery after undergoing Steel Spine replacement surgery to replace her natural one that got crushed back in 1993 by the Health Care Industry Steam Roller.
April 7, 2008 7:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
haaaaaaaaa
April 8, 2008 12:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Okay . . . Sen. Clinton claims to be opposed to this trade deal.
So what are we to make of this?:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9433.html
April 7, 2008 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know that in Indiana, Evan Bayh is something akin to Mick Jagger.
To the rest of us, he is just slightly less compelling than a slice of toasted, unbuttered Wonderbread.
April 7, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
After 'The Kitchen Sink' - the 'Spine of Steel'??
She's close to crossing the Laughingstock Threshold
April 7, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Phoebe Fay you funny.
Unfortunately, it's a positively bullshit.
LOL!
April 7, 2008 9:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clintonian Doulespeak Lexicon:
"Unfair Trade Deal" = Not doubledoubleplus good for corporations.
April 7, 2008 10:01 PM | Reply | Permalink