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Media Agrees: Hillary's Laugh Is Back

Yesterday on the stump Hillary reiterated her opposition to the Colombia trade agreement -- and in the process, she laughed.

This, naturally, pricked up the ears of lots of folks in our political press corps, who derive great enjoyment from taking note of Hillary's laugh...

MSNBC:

Hillary's Laugh Is Back

PITTSBURGH -- Clinton can't shake questions surrounding her stance on trade and her husband's differing views on the matter. Today, she responded with a hearty laugh -- the kind once criticized and mocked by pundits and the media.

CNN:

Clinton laughs off Colombia questions

PITTSBURGH, Pennsylvania (CNN) – Hillary Clinton used her trademark laugh Thursday to deflect a question about the $800,000 her husband earned in 2005 giving speeches for a Bogota-based group that supports the Colombia free trade agreement — the same trade deal she currently opposes.

The Washington Post:

Questions on Trade Agreement Bring Back the Laugh

PITTSBURGH, Pa. -- Asked about her husband's receipt of almost $1 million from a group that backs a trade deal with Colombia that she opposes, Sen. Hillary Clinton turned to a tactic she had used often early in her campaign, though not recently: laughing off the question.

Great minds...


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God, the quality of political reporting is abysmal at times, isn't it?

Who gives a rat's ass about Clinton's laugh?

You wrote: "God, the quality of political reporting is abysmal at times, isn't it? Who gives a rat's ass about Clinton's laugh?"

I agree. The real story here is about the money Bill got paid by Colombian interests, the fact the Mark Penn was NOT fired for conspiring with the Colombian ambassador to pass the free trade agreement, and Howard Wolfson's firm's work promoting the FTA. The real story is about the conflicts of interest that permeate the ethically-challenged Clinton campaign and the degree to which corporate interests have their paws all over her operation. And the real story is about why the U.S. is proposing to have a free trade agreement with a country that systematically assassinates trade unionists.

Ah, but covering substance is hard work. Making fun of someone's laugh is easy.

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when Hillary laughs off a serious question about a conflict of interest, i care about her laugh.

You'll notice, she never answered the question. She just laughed and laughed like it was the funniest thing in the world.

Well it's not.

I hope she gets this question again and again until she answers it.

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Oh, and my comment wasn't directed at you, Greg--it was directed to the geniuses who thought that the laugh was "back" and worth a story.

The story is only as newsworthy as TPM's Rudy Giggliani clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35s17704Qsw

I'm sorry, you forgot mine:

http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/04/hillary-forcefully-responds-to-bill.html

:P

Granted I didn't make fun of the sound of her "cackle" so much as others did.

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Of course they did.... and note how none of the reports actually cites the exact question she asked which was a ridiculous, convuluted kind of "gotcha" question that deserved to be laughed off.

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It's clearly a topic worthy of questions. What was the exact question asked?

What?? This is an INCREDIBLY important question! Half of the problems that have come out of the Bush administration are related DIRECTLY to conflicts of interest, and she has shown that she has no problem with being surrounded by HUGE conflicts of interest. This goes to the very heart of how she would manage the US government! Give me a break, it is something that has to be "vetted" (to borrow a worn out cliche from Hillary), and if she was somehow caught off guard by this I'm just as shocked by that, because she shouldn't have been.

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I have to stand up for Hillary's LAUGH this time. It SOUNDED like a SINCERE ONE - seriously.

I think she was caught off guard. She looked like she could cry, but instead just laughed at feeling so frustrated.

I'd prefer they talk about how she had no answer for the clear conflict of interest vis-a-vis Columbia - posed by the reporter. She doesn't know how to respond to the question and so she tried to laugh it off. Though the laugh, and the media's reporting of it, is superfluous, she actually benefits from the media's fixation with it rather than them noting her inability to answer the question.

Poor Hillary.

Why does everyone make fun of her Hypocricy?

It's not the laugh that's the problem--it's the blatant conflict of interest between her husband and her own position.

It sounded sincere because she has been practicing. More guffaw, less cackle, still disingenuous. Just like the fake "I can't hear you" move she used on the press at the airport the other day.

But the problem remains: both her husband and chief strategist were cozy on a trade deal she claims she opposes. Surely, these brilliant minds would have known that during an election year it looks um, fishy for these relationships and money and deals to occur.

Hmmmm...laugh off direct questions that get to the heart of issues you'd rather not address.

Act like you can't hear said direct questions.

I feel like I'm back in the Reagan era.

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It's not the laugh that's the problem--it's the blatant conflict of interest between her husband and her own position.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have a winnah ladies and gents!

Exactly.

It's a good question, and she has to answer it.

I suggest she craft a credible response. It will be asked again. And again. And again.

And, it should be.

No, you don't understand: The laugh IS the response to the question. That's it. Move on.

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The problem with this isn't the potential conflict of interest, or whether her laugh was genuine, or not, but the fact that the media is so goddamn shallow.

And this should worry anyone, regardless of who they support.

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you know, if she would have laughed, and then answered the question i doubt they would have even mentioned the laugh.

but when you get a direct question on a serious topic and you're only response is to laugh it off, is the media not supposed to report thefact that you think its funny that you're husband gets paid 800,000 dollars by a man who likes to kill union organizers to advocate for something which you say you disagree??

I think its an important question and had hillary treated it as such, i doubt "the laugh" would be reported.

They would have reported her answer, but since she didn't have one, they reported what she gave them.

Anyone have video of this laugh?

Sigh.

Her laugh?

This is how pathetic the media bias is in this cycle.

On her Bosnia mistake, President Clinton said it was like she robbed a bank.

Meanwhile, Obama still gets a free pass on these mistakes:

"Obama may lose support
in Philadelphia over 'street money'"

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-streetmoney11apr11,1,6250467.story

And this outrage:

"Facing backlash, Obama relents
on California delegates":

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080411/ap_on_el_pr/california_delegates;_ylt=AkLzUjuAcmb4ngJLajdowkkXr7sF

Oh well, she will still win and make them look like fools.

Pitiful.

not sure I like your new Avatar.

Why don't you get a picture of Hillary or something?

* FREE PASS * * FREE PASS * * FREE PASS *

Here you go, Gotalife. This is your THIRD FREE PASS in one week! Give it to Hillary and let her know that Obama's not the only one getting a FREE PASS. Maybe she'll get a chuckle out of that.

* FREE PASS * * FREE PASS * * FREE PASS *


You think it's a good thing that Clinton is willingly paying street money, i.e., buying votes? These are the standards that bring democracy down to the lowest common denominator and perpetuate graft and corruption via Big Machine politics. While it may be impractical for Obama to make a principled stand against this embarassing legacy of a bygone age, I admire his willingness to forego votes for his principles. I wish all Democrats were so principled.

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Hey, Gotalife, thanks for that first link! It makes me like Obama all the more.

Imagine, a new kind of politics, one that doesn't involve handing out money to supporters. Radical!

Goatlife, 'fess up. You're really an Obama supporter, aren't you?

Do you not see how linking to news stories about things you think the media is giving Obama a "free pass" on is logically problematic?

Additionally, if Obama not handing out street money in Phillie is a mistake, its self-punishing and one I'd expect you to cheer. Ditto the California delegate thing.

I reccomend you take a latte, oh, my mistake, coffee, break and try again.

So Greg did Bill's Columbia payola wind up as a loan to the Restoration 2008?

How about the obscene amount of retirement benes. Bill is pulling down from his stint as Clinton the First?

Hill-arious
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4046775866170006029&q=hillary+laugh&total=672&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4

Remember these poor media folks are stuck in Pittsburgh; they have to do something to amuse themselves.

It's just kind of insulting to everyone but herself, don't you think? A legitimate question, and all she can do is laugh.

It is amazing how this woman can laugh off the slime oozing out of Obama's and the right wings pores as they call her a F*cking Wh*re and cheer.

You really can't find a better woman, she is above all the slimy little toads attacking her.

dembillc: Do you just cut and paste the same comment each time? Your hate-filled, racist, sexist, lying comments are really tiresome.

I'm glad you can conflate Randi Rhodes, who has absolutely nothing to do with Obama, with Obama himself. Gosh, another striking example of logic from a Hillary supporter. But hell, I shouldn't blame you, from the look of the comments of her supporters on here they are pretty much backed against a wall and desperately pulling at any straws to try to deflect attention away from their corrupt lying candidate.

Hopefully someone will ask the question during the PA debate when laughing won't get her out of a jam.

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And this should worry anyone, regardless of who they support.

It worries plenty of people and plenty of people have been on top of that for years, for all the good it does. Actually it does do some good because that's how the Religious Right and the conservative movement did it - they bitched endlessly about the "liberal bias" in the news and so what we get now instead of truth, which has a liberal bias, is nonsense.

How is Obama getting a "free pass" on the street money issue, and how is what he's doing a "mistake" aside from the fact that it may cost him votes? It's been reported in the NYT, among others, and it's emblematic of Obama practicing a new kind of politics. To compare that to Hillary refusing to answer a conflict of interest question is ludicrous.

Here is the video of Senator Clinton laughing off the fact that her Husband, Bill Clinton, has been paid huge sums to push the Colombia Trade Deal.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#video/politics/2008/04/11/sot.clinton.laughs.off.pool

Obama is using RW talking points again:

Obama Tells Parents: 'Don't Blame The Teacher And The Government...If You're Not Doing Your Job'

Keep talking Obama.

My wife is a teacher and feels the same way.

If parents aren't helping at home with their kids homework, it makes the teacher's job next to impossible.

So many kids today know that there's not much a teacher can do them, and there's so little administrative help and support, that many fine young teachers leave the profession.

If you took of your Hillary-goggles for a moment, you'd realize what Obama said is a GOOD thing.

Parents DO have to help their kids with schoolwork if we're going to fix the educational system.

It's all part of Obama's theme that WE all are going to have to work together.

Hillary's theme, that SHE is going to fix everything, is pandering bullshit in it's bullshittiest form.

The question was about the $800,000 Bill Clinton earned in 2005 giving speeches for the Bogota-based group that supports the Colombia free trade agreement.

Sounds valid to me.

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I really don't think that asking parents to do their job is a RW talking point.

I mean your attempt to shoehorn it into one is - less than persuasive, but an interesting attempt nonetheless.

[rolls eyes]

http://www.cnn.com/video/#video/politics/2008/04/11/sot.clinton.laughs.off.poo

PITTSBURGH, Pennsylvania (CNN) – Hillary Clinton used her trademark laugh Thursday to deflect a question about the $800,000 her husband earned in 2005 giving speeches for a Bogota-based group that supports the Colombia free trade agreement — the same trade deal she currently opposes.

Asked by CNN if those earnings represented a conflict of interest given that she has dipped into her family's pocketbook to pay campaign bills, Clinton threw up her hands and laughed loudly for several seconds.

"How many angels dance on the head of the pin?," she responded, continuing to giggle. "I have really, uh, nothing to … I mean, how do you answer that?"

The New York senator explained there are different sides to the argument over trade, and re-emphasized her own opposition to the trade deal, assailing the Colombian government's "outrageous" record of "targeting labor leaders."

"I am against the Colombia free trade deal," she said. "It doesn't matter who talks to me. It doesn't matter any circumstances. I have been against it. I am against it. I will be against it absent the kind of changes in behavior that I have been calling for from the Colombian government."

Earlier in the press conference, describing her husband's advocacy for the trade deal, Clinton said: "Everyone is free to express their opinion

Greg, I think the first two are a good example of gratuitous media narrativizing. A real cheap shot.

But I hope you also will point out some cheap shots about Obama that the media is busily working to cook up. The "smug" one is especially annoying since it is entirely subjective and basically perjorative.

(Note also the free ride that McCain gets with this sort of thing)

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I give Hillary the benefit of the doubt on many, many topics (her stance on Iraq not being one of them).

However, I do happen to think that her laugh is sometimes fake and strategically deployed in order to deflect difficult questions that she both wants to express derision toward and to avoid giving an answer to.

I seriously doubt that I'm the only one who feels that way. I mean, she never laughed like that in public until like a week after her advisors started talking about how they were going to "humanize" her, and then she started laughing heartily all the time, then there was a mini-backlash b/c it seemed fake, and she completely stopped. If you can completely stop like that for months, it draws into question the spontaneity.

I agree that it's not that important and that the focus should be on whether Bill's close to a million bucks from Colombia are going to impact her stance on the bilateral trade agreement with Colombia once she is in office.

Not to mention that it would seem that the many unsolved murders of trade union members and supporters in Colombia would make it a country in which you wouldn't want to be involved in the anti-union movement in order to avoid any possible appearance of having blood on your hands. At least if you have any sort of pro-labor leanings or concerns about appearances.

I completely agree. I don't care at all about how her laugh sounds, but I care a lot about when it happens. She's done it before - in one of the debates - when she got a question she didn't want to answer. Her laugh is a pattern - she's trying to show that the question is silly - but in reality she doesn't want to anwer it.

Hillary has answered the question repeatedly ever since the "Penn sh*t hit the fan." she has said that nothing and no one will change her mind on the colombia trade deal until colombia makes changes (i won't list them all here.) she has said that neither bill clinton, mark penn, or anyone else will influence her on this issue, but they are entitled to their own opinions. can't be more clear than that.

why did she laugh yesterday? becuase she's answered the question as clearly as possible and the CNN reporter was bringing it back with a new twist implying that she's somehow using that money to finance her campaign (which is total b.s.) is anyone asking john mccain about how much of his wife's money he's used during his "legendary maverick career"? the double standard here is so blatant. Hillary has made plenty of her own money from her autobiography, etc., that bill's $800k is a just a lame attempt to sully her.

she's entitled to laugh whenever she wants and not have her laugh pattern analyzed and strewn across the media. it is the media that should be laughed at. they are a complete joke and embarrassment...

end of rant.

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Inasmuch as it was a question about conflict of interest, Hillary, the way to answer it was pretty clear.

Either there is one or there isn't.

Laughing at the question in an attempt to demean it ain't an answer.

Gee whiz, based on her laugh returning,I think I'll switch my vote to Hillary!

Buckeyes!?!?

Troll Alert!!!!

Go Blue.


:)

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the buckeye's spring game is tomorrow.

Rrod is gonna have a tough year i think. he was not a good fit for scUM. not at all. but, thats my opinion and the more bad choices scUM makes, the better it is for Buckeye Nation.

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Gee whiz, based on her laugh returning,I think I'll switch my vote to Hillary!

I only do that when she cries, myself.


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Public Agrees: Media Is Crap

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SNL certainly called this one.

Oh for Christ's sake...

However, I do happen to think that her laugh is sometimes fake and strategically deployed in order to deflect difficult questions that she both wants to express derision toward and to avoid giving an answer to.

Good point.


Does Obama laugh? Ever? Now that you mention it, I don't recall him laughing. I can picture Hillary having a good time. I can picture her having a fit of laughter. I can picture her angry. I can see her as a really fun person to be around. I can imagine a wide range of emotion from her. But I just picture Obama as the same all the time. Is it part of the "cool" thing? Surely there's more to him than that.

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I've seen him laugh. I first saw Obama laugh in Oakland as he told a self-depricating tale about the cold and long underwear when he announced his candidacy for President. It's about 2/3 into first video at that link. The photo at the top of the page is him smiling as he told that story (in the video, you can only see the back of someone's shirt while he tells the story).


btw, Hillary doesn't seem much fun to me at all.

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Let me see, I think there may yet be a picture on the front page of TPM - there was yesterday, of Obama with his face completely engaged in the most gorgeous big laugh.

His eyes are shut and his whole face is laughing.

There ya go. Please get over that silliness.

Given the seriousness of the questions, and how they directly pertain to her, there really isn't a clear line demarcating an insincere laugh from an evil laugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3gQfz8GC0o

As a cheeky, 22-year-old college student who herself has a very annoying, almost wicked, high-pitched cackle, I'm tired of this meanness and silliness.

One more crack about Hillary's laugh and I throw the election to McCain.

From my persective the laugh is a surrogate for the lack of authenticity from which HRC seems suffer. The laugh is not genuine, or at least does not sound particularly so. And a fundamental lack of authenticiy is one of the issues that some folks, including me, have with her as a candidate. Her Tuzla and Macedonia and Ireland Peace Accord "stories" also sound in the lack of authenticity arena, as does her professed lifelong support for the Yankees (who really believes THAT?). So HRC's laugh is material to the extent that it may have come to be a symbol for a certain deeper, broader notion that some folks hold that HRC lacks authenticity as a candidate.

It can be both. The laugh can be annoying and at the same time be a way she deflects from the topic! I choose both!

Reporter: "Senator Clinton, your husband received $800,000 in speaking in support of the trade deal - is that a conflict of interest?"

Clinton: "Hahahaha, hahaha, hahah, hahaha ... (shakes head) I mean ... how many angels dance on the head of a pin?"

Geez - reporters and their silly questions these days!


So, If Hillary were to become President: Will she answer questions, or will she just either try to duck them with a fit of feigned giggles, or will she just yell at the reporters: Why are you always asking me the first questions: why aren't you asking Putin, and so on.

No Press Conferences For President Hillary Rambo Clinton. It is her, no first questions must be asked of me, rules.

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I call on Hillary Clinton to reject and denounce her hearty trademark laugh.

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Great stuff from Matt Dowd:

Many Clinton advocates (including Gov. Rendell of Pennsylvania) say that since Clinton is more defined and Obama less defined to the public, that this means she is a stronger candidate in the fall. I would actually argue the exact opposite. I would much prefer to have a candidate with more “maneuvering” room with the general public and be able to run a little freer of set attitudes so the margin for victory or loss is broad.

Hillary Clinton’s margin for defining herself and open running probably is around 8 to 10 percent of the public -- meaning that 90 percent of the public is already either solidly for her or solidly against. And best case for her is those numbers are even. So she is fairly defined, and not in a way that helps her positively in the fall.

Obama, on the other hand, has around 20 to 25 percent of the public who aren’t solidly for or against him. Therefore, he has a greater ability to run free and better determine his future. I would rather have a candidate less defined going into the fall than one defined nearly completely with a large amount negative.

This is why if you gave the McCain campaign folks truth serum, they would say they prefer Clinton to be the Democratic nominee because most of the work has already been done for them. Though the longer this Democratic process goes on in a bitter battle, the Clinton folks are making sure Obama may also be weakened going into the fall.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/matthewdowd/

All the attention to Hillary's laugh has got me thinking about Obama and the "cool" thing. Black is definitely cool. I confess to never having any respect for "cool" for its own sake. Back in high school it was always obvious the lengths students went to to be seen as cool - smoking, making fun of the geeks, etc. - and I always saw it as defensive. I always saw it as a way to fit in. Or more importantly as a way not to be an outcast. To me fear was at the root of it. I see cool as based in posturing. Basically to me it's a cover up for insecurities and a desperate need to fit in and not be attacked. And today in schools being cool is almost synonymous with being black. When I see young white people dressing and acting black I see it as coming more from fear than admiration. As for adults, I still see acting cool as a facade.

so obama is too black for you because he appears to be cool? uh huh! a lil bit of jealousy there otto ole boy???

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this article sucks b/c hillary's laugh doesn't interest me and the fact that we keep making it an issue is disgusting. there is much more juicy stuff on hrc camp to report on---lets start with colombia-gate!!!

go obama!!!

Specter thinks Obama will take PENNsylvania - CNN

The reporter unnecessarily brought in the point about the loan of money to the campaign. It's a conflict of interest even without that.

otto, that is a good thing. you dont want a prez who will flip his/her wig at every turn. remaing calm, cool and collective is not a BLACK thing as you have been implying, it is professional thing. to stretch it further, it is a presidential thing to remain calm no matter how flustered you may be.

i have noticed that you are almost as good at spinning as the repubs and the clinton machine. keep it up and rove just might have to hire you dear boy...

shaking head!!

Actually, the OSU Spring game is next Saturday, the 19th.
But everything else you said is the unvanrnished TRUTH!

Amazing how her laugh turns into a post about how black and cool Obama is! Who'd a figured....(shrugs shoulders)

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