Media Agrees: Hillary's Laugh Is Back
Yesterday on the stump Hillary reiterated her opposition to the Colombia trade agreement -- and in the process, she laughed.
This, naturally, pricked up the ears of lots of folks in our political press corps, who derive great enjoyment from taking note of Hillary's laugh...
Hillary's Laugh Is BackPITTSBURGH -- Clinton can't shake questions surrounding her stance on trade and her husband's differing views on the matter. Today, she responded with a hearty laugh -- the kind once criticized and mocked by pundits and the media.
CNN:
Clinton laughs off Colombia questionsPITTSBURGH, Pennsylvania (CNN) – Hillary Clinton used her trademark laugh Thursday to deflect a question about the $800,000 her husband earned in 2005 giving speeches for a Bogota-based group that supports the Colombia free trade agreement — the same trade deal she currently opposes.
Questions on Trade Agreement Bring Back the LaughPITTSBURGH, Pa. -- Asked about her husband's receipt of almost $1 million from a group that backs a trade deal with Colombia that she opposes, Sen. Hillary Clinton turned to a tactic she had used often early in her campaign, though not recently: laughing off the question.
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God, the quality of political reporting is abysmal at times, isn't it?
Who gives a rat's ass about Clinton's laugh?
April 11, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
You wrote: "God, the quality of political reporting is abysmal at times, isn't it? Who gives a rat's ass about Clinton's laugh?"
I agree. The real story here is about the money Bill got paid by Colombian interests, the fact the Mark Penn was NOT fired for conspiring with the Colombian ambassador to pass the free trade agreement, and Howard Wolfson's firm's work promoting the FTA. The real story is about the conflicts of interest that permeate the ethically-challenged Clinton campaign and the degree to which corporate interests have their paws all over her operation. And the real story is about why the U.S. is proposing to have a free trade agreement with a country that systematically assassinates trade unionists.
Ah, but covering substance is hard work. Making fun of someone's laugh is easy.
April 11, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
when Hillary laughs off a serious question about a conflict of interest, i care about her laugh.
You'll notice, she never answered the question. She just laughed and laughed like it was the funniest thing in the world.
Well it's not.
I hope she gets this question again and again until she answers it.
April 11, 2008 11:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, and my comment wasn't directed at you, Greg--it was directed to the geniuses who thought that the laugh was "back" and worth a story.
April 11, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
The story is only as newsworthy as TPM's Rudy Giggliani clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35s17704Qsw
April 11, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sorry, you forgot mine:
http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/04/hillary-forcefully-responds-to-bill.html
:P
Granted I didn't make fun of the sound of her "cackle" so much as others did.
April 11, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Of course they did.... and note how none of the reports actually cites the exact question she asked which was a ridiculous, convuluted kind of "gotcha" question that deserved to be laughed off.
April 11, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's clearly a topic worthy of questions. What was the exact question asked?
April 11, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
What?? This is an INCREDIBLY important question! Half of the problems that have come out of the Bush administration are related DIRECTLY to conflicts of interest, and she has shown that she has no problem with being surrounded by HUGE conflicts of interest. This goes to the very heart of how she would manage the US government! Give me a break, it is something that has to be "vetted" (to borrow a worn out cliche from Hillary), and if she was somehow caught off guard by this I'm just as shocked by that, because she shouldn't have been.
April 11, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have to stand up for Hillary's LAUGH this time. It SOUNDED like a SINCERE ONE - seriously.
I think she was caught off guard. She looked like she could cry, but instead just laughed at feeling so frustrated.
April 11, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'd prefer they talk about how she had no answer for the clear conflict of interest vis-a-vis Columbia - posed by the reporter. She doesn't know how to respond to the question and so she tried to laugh it off. Though the laugh, and the media's reporting of it, is superfluous, she actually benefits from the media's fixation with it rather than them noting her inability to answer the question.
April 11, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Poor Hillary.
Why does everyone make fun of her Hypocricy?
April 11, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's not the laugh that's the problem--it's the blatant conflict of interest between her husband and her own position.
April 11, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
It sounded sincere because she has been practicing. More guffaw, less cackle, still disingenuous. Just like the fake "I can't hear you" move she used on the press at the airport the other day.
But the problem remains: both her husband and chief strategist were cozy on a trade deal she claims she opposes. Surely, these brilliant minds would have known that during an election year it looks um, fishy for these relationships and money and deals to occur.
April 11, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hmmmm...laugh off direct questions that get to the heart of issues you'd rather not address.
Act like you can't hear said direct questions.
I feel like I'm back in the Reagan era.
April 11, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ding! Ding! Ding!
We have a winnah ladies and gents!
April 11, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly.
It's a good question, and she has to answer it.
I suggest she craft a credible response. It will be asked again. And again. And again.
And, it should be.
April 11, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, you don't understand: The laugh IS the response to the question. That's it. Move on.
April 11, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
The problem with this isn't the potential conflict of interest, or whether her laugh was genuine, or not, but the fact that the media is so goddamn shallow.
And this should worry anyone, regardless of who they support.
April 11, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
you know, if she would have laughed, and then answered the question i doubt they would have even mentioned the laugh.
but when you get a direct question on a serious topic and you're only response is to laugh it off, is the media not supposed to report thefact that you think its funny that you're husband gets paid 800,000 dollars by a man who likes to kill union organizers to advocate for something which you say you disagree??
I think its an important question and had hillary treated it as such, i doubt "the laugh" would be reported.
They would have reported her answer, but since she didn't have one, they reported what she gave them.
April 11, 2008 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone have video of this laugh?
April 11, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGeQ6dxGMFA&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/11/7839/12059/654/493626
April 11, 2008 12:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sigh.
Her laugh?
This is how pathetic the media bias is in this cycle.
On her Bosnia mistake, President Clinton said it was like she robbed a bank.
Meanwhile, Obama still gets a free pass on these mistakes:
"Obama may lose support
in Philadelphia over 'street money'"
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-streetmoney11apr11,1,6250467.story
And this outrage:
"Facing backlash, Obama relents
on California delegates":
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080411/ap_on_el_pr/california_delegates;_ylt=AkLzUjuAcmb4ngJLajdowkkXr7sF
Oh well, she will still win and make them look like fools.
Pitiful.
April 11, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
not sure I like your new Avatar.
Why don't you get a picture of Hillary or something?
April 11, 2008 11:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
* FREE PASS * * FREE PASS * * FREE PASS *
Here you go, Gotalife. This is your THIRD FREE PASS in one week! Give it to Hillary and let her know that Obama's not the only one getting a FREE PASS. Maybe she'll get a chuckle out of that.
* FREE PASS * * FREE PASS * * FREE PASS *
April 11, 2008 11:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
You think it's a good thing that Clinton is willingly paying street money, i.e., buying votes? These are the standards that bring democracy down to the lowest common denominator and perpetuate graft and corruption via Big Machine politics. While it may be impractical for Obama to make a principled stand against this embarassing legacy of a bygone age, I admire his willingness to forego votes for his principles. I wish all Democrats were so principled.
April 11, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, Gotalife, thanks for that first link! It makes me like Obama all the more.
Imagine, a new kind of politics, one that doesn't involve handing out money to supporters. Radical!
Goatlife, 'fess up. You're really an Obama supporter, aren't you?
April 11, 2008 12:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you not see how linking to news stories about things you think the media is giving Obama a "free pass" on is logically problematic?
Additionally, if Obama not handing out street money in Phillie is a mistake, its self-punishing and one I'd expect you to cheer. Ditto the California delegate thing.
I reccomend you take a latte, oh, my mistake, coffee, break and try again.
April 11, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
So Greg did Bill's Columbia payola wind up as a loan to the Restoration 2008?
How about the obscene amount of retirement benes. Bill is pulling down from his stint as Clinton the First?
Hill-arious
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4046775866170006029&q=hillary+laugh&total=672&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4
April 11, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Remember these poor media folks are stuck in Pittsburgh; they have to do something to amuse themselves.
April 11, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's just kind of insulting to everyone but herself, don't you think? A legitimate question, and all she can do is laugh.
April 11, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
It is amazing how this woman can laugh off the slime oozing out of Obama's and the right wings pores as they call her a F*cking Wh*re and cheer.
You really can't find a better woman, she is above all the slimy little toads attacking her.
April 11, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
dembillc: Do you just cut and paste the same comment each time? Your hate-filled, racist, sexist, lying comments are really tiresome.
April 11, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm glad you can conflate Randi Rhodes, who has absolutely nothing to do with Obama, with Obama himself. Gosh, another striking example of logic from a Hillary supporter. But hell, I shouldn't blame you, from the look of the comments of her supporters on here they are pretty much backed against a wall and desperately pulling at any straws to try to deflect attention away from their corrupt lying candidate.
April 11, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hopefully someone will ask the question during the PA debate when laughing won't get her out of a jam.
April 11, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
It worries plenty of people and plenty of people have been on top of that for years, for all the good it does. Actually it does do some good because that's how the Religious Right and the conservative movement did it - they bitched endlessly about the "liberal bias" in the news and so what we get now instead of truth, which has a liberal bias, is nonsense.
April 11, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
How is Obama getting a "free pass" on the street money issue, and how is what he's doing a "mistake" aside from the fact that it may cost him votes? It's been reported in the NYT, among others, and it's emblematic of Obama practicing a new kind of politics. To compare that to Hillary refusing to answer a conflict of interest question is ludicrous.
April 11, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here is the video of Senator Clinton laughing off the fact that her Husband, Bill Clinton, has been paid huge sums to push the Colombia Trade Deal.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#video/politics/2008/04/11/sot.clinton.laughs.off.pool
April 11, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is using RW talking points again:
Obama Tells Parents: 'Don't Blame The Teacher And The Government...If You're Not Doing Your Job'
Keep talking Obama.
April 11, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
My wife is a teacher and feels the same way.
If parents aren't helping at home with their kids homework, it makes the teacher's job next to impossible.
So many kids today know that there's not much a teacher can do them, and there's so little administrative help and support, that many fine young teachers leave the profession.
If you took of your Hillary-goggles for a moment, you'd realize what Obama said is a GOOD thing.
Parents DO have to help their kids with schoolwork if we're going to fix the educational system.
It's all part of Obama's theme that WE all are going to have to work together.
Hillary's theme, that SHE is going to fix everything, is pandering bullshit in it's bullshittiest form.
April 11, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
The question was about the $800,000 Bill Clinton earned in 2005 giving speeches for the Bogota-based group that supports the Colombia free trade agreement.
Sounds valid to me.
April 11, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
I really don't think that asking parents to do their job is a RW talking point.
I mean your attempt to shoehorn it into one is - less than persuasive, but an interesting attempt nonetheless.
[rolls eyes]
April 11, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.cnn.com/video/#video/politics/2008/04/11/sot.clinton.laughs.off.poo
PITTSBURGH, Pennsylvania (CNN) – Hillary Clinton used her trademark laugh Thursday to deflect a question about the $800,000 her husband earned in 2005 giving speeches for a Bogota-based group that supports the Colombia free trade agreement — the same trade deal she currently opposes.
Asked by CNN if those earnings represented a conflict of interest given that she has dipped into her family's pocketbook to pay campaign bills, Clinton threw up her hands and laughed loudly for several seconds.
"How many angels dance on the head of the pin?," she responded, continuing to giggle. "I have really, uh, nothing to … I mean, how do you answer that?"
The New York senator explained there are different sides to the argument over trade, and re-emphasized her own opposition to the trade deal, assailing the Colombian government's "outrageous" record of "targeting labor leaders."
"I am against the Colombia free trade deal," she said. "It doesn't matter who talks to me. It doesn't matter any circumstances. I have been against it. I am against it. I will be against it absent the kind of changes in behavior that I have been calling for from the Colombian government."
Earlier in the press conference, describing her husband's advocacy for the trade deal, Clinton said: "Everyone is free to express their opinion
April 11, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, I think the first two are a good example of gratuitous media narrativizing. A real cheap shot.
But I hope you also will point out some cheap shots about Obama that the media is busily working to cook up. The "smug" one is especially annoying since it is entirely subjective and basically perjorative.
(Note also the free ride that McCain gets with this sort of thing)
April 11, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
I give Hillary the benefit of the doubt on many, many topics (her stance on Iraq not being one of them).
However, I do happen to think that her laugh is sometimes fake and strategically deployed in order to deflect difficult questions that she both wants to express derision toward and to avoid giving an answer to.
I seriously doubt that I'm the only one who feels that way. I mean, she never laughed like that in public until like a week after her advisors started talking about how they were going to "humanize" her, and then she started laughing heartily all the time, then there was a mini-backlash b/c it seemed fake, and she completely stopped. If you can completely stop like that for months, it draws into question the spontaneity.
I agree that it's not that important and that the focus should be on whether Bill's close to a million bucks from Colombia are going to impact her stance on the bilateral trade agreement with Colombia once she is in office.
Not to mention that it would seem that the many unsolved murders of trade union members and supporters in Colombia would make it a country in which you wouldn't want to be involved in the anti-union movement in order to avoid any possible appearance of having blood on your hands. At least if you have any sort of pro-labor leanings or concerns about appearances.
April 11, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
I completely agree. I don't care at all about how her laugh sounds, but I care a lot about when it happens. She's done it before - in one of the debates - when she got a question she didn't want to answer. Her laugh is a pattern - she's trying to show that the question is silly - but in reality she doesn't want to anwer it.
April 11, 2008 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary has answered the question repeatedly ever since the "Penn sh*t hit the fan." she has said that nothing and no one will change her mind on the colombia trade deal until colombia makes changes (i won't list them all here.) she has said that neither bill clinton, mark penn, or anyone else will influence her on this issue, but they are entitled to their own opinions. can't be more clear than that.
why did she laugh yesterday? becuase she's answered the question as clearly as possible and the CNN reporter was bringing it back with a new twist implying that she's somehow using that money to finance her campaign (which is total b.s.) is anyone asking john mccain about how much of his wife's money he's used during his "legendary maverick career"? the double standard here is so blatant. Hillary has made plenty of her own money from her autobiography, etc., that bill's $800k is a just a lame attempt to sully her.
she's entitled to laugh whenever she wants and not have her laugh pattern analyzed and strewn across the media. it is the media that should be laughed at. they are a complete joke and embarrassment...
end of rant.
April 11, 2008 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Inasmuch as it was a question about conflict of interest, Hillary, the way to answer it was pretty clear.
Either there is one or there isn't.
Laughing at the question in an attempt to demean it ain't an answer.
April 11, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Gee whiz, based on her laugh returning,I think I'll switch my vote to Hillary!
April 11, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Buckeyes!?!?
Troll Alert!!!!
Go Blue.
:)
April 11, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
the buckeye's spring game is tomorrow.
Rrod is gonna have a tough year i think. he was not a good fit for scUM. not at all. but, thats my opinion and the more bad choices scUM makes, the better it is for Buckeye Nation.
April 11, 2008 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I only do that when she cries, myself.
;)
April 11, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Public Agrees: Media Is Crap
April 11, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
SNL certainly called this one.
April 11, 2008 11:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh for Christ's sake...
April 11, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good point.
April 11, 2008 11:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Does Obama laugh? Ever? Now that you mention it, I don't recall him laughing. I can picture Hillary having a good time. I can picture her having a fit of laughter. I can picture her angry. I can see her as a really fun person to be around. I can imagine a wide range of emotion from her. But I just picture Obama as the same all the time. Is it part of the "cool" thing? Surely there's more to him than that.
April 11, 2008 12:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've seen him laugh. I first saw Obama laugh in Oakland as he told a self-depricating tale about the cold and long underwear when he announced his candidacy for President. It's about 2/3 into first video at that link. The photo at the top of the page is him smiling as he told that story (in the video, you can only see the back of someone's shirt while he tells the story).
btw, Hillary doesn't seem much fun to me at all.
April 11, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let me see, I think there may yet be a picture on the front page of TPM - there was yesterday, of Obama with his face completely engaged in the most gorgeous big laugh.
His eyes are shut and his whole face is laughing.
There ya go. Please get over that silliness.
April 11, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Given the seriousness of the questions, and how they directly pertain to her, there really isn't a clear line demarcating an insincere laugh from an evil laugh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3gQfz8GC0o
April 11, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a cheeky, 22-year-old college student who herself has a very annoying, almost wicked, high-pitched cackle, I'm tired of this meanness and silliness.
One more crack about Hillary's laugh and I throw the election to McCain.
April 11, 2008 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
From my persective the laugh is a surrogate for the lack of authenticity from which HRC seems suffer. The laugh is not genuine, or at least does not sound particularly so. And a fundamental lack of authenticiy is one of the issues that some folks, including me, have with her as a candidate. Her Tuzla and Macedonia and Ireland Peace Accord "stories" also sound in the lack of authenticity arena, as does her professed lifelong support for the Yankees (who really believes THAT?). So HRC's laugh is material to the extent that it may have come to be a symbol for a certain deeper, broader notion that some folks hold that HRC lacks authenticity as a candidate.
April 11, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
It can be both. The laugh can be annoying and at the same time be a way she deflects from the topic! I choose both!
April 11, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Reporter: "Senator Clinton, your husband received $800,000 in speaking in support of the trade deal - is that a conflict of interest?"
Clinton: "Hahahaha, hahaha, hahah, hahaha ... (shakes head) I mean ... how many angels dance on the head of a pin?"
Geez - reporters and their silly questions these days!
April 11, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, If Hillary were to become President: Will she answer questions, or will she just either try to duck them with a fit of feigned giggles, or will she just yell at the reporters: Why are you always asking me the first questions: why aren't you asking Putin, and so on.
No Press Conferences For President Hillary Rambo Clinton. It is her, no first questions must be asked of me, rules.
April 11, 2008 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I call on Hillary Clinton to reject and denounce her hearty trademark laugh.
April 11, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another reply that became a post:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/04/laughing-matters.php
April 11, 2008 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great stuff from Matt Dowd:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/matthewdowd/
April 11, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
All the attention to Hillary's laugh has got me thinking about Obama and the "cool" thing. Black is definitely cool. I confess to never having any respect for "cool" for its own sake. Back in high school it was always obvious the lengths students went to to be seen as cool - smoking, making fun of the geeks, etc. - and I always saw it as defensive. I always saw it as a way to fit in. Or more importantly as a way not to be an outcast. To me fear was at the root of it. I see cool as based in posturing. Basically to me it's a cover up for insecurities and a desperate need to fit in and not be attacked. And today in schools being cool is almost synonymous with being black. When I see young white people dressing and acting black I see it as coming more from fear than admiration. As for adults, I still see acting cool as a facade.
April 11, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
so obama is too black for you because he appears to be cool? uh huh! a lil bit of jealousy there otto ole boy???
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this article sucks b/c hillary's laugh doesn't interest me and the fact that we keep making it an issue is disgusting. there is much more juicy stuff on hrc camp to report on---lets start with colombia-gate!!!
go obama!!!
April 11, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Specter thinks Obama will take PENNsylvania - CNN
April 11, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
The reporter unnecessarily brought in the point about the loan of money to the campaign. It's a conflict of interest even without that.
April 11, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
otto, that is a good thing. you dont want a prez who will flip his/her wig at every turn. remaing calm, cool and collective is not a BLACK thing as you have been implying, it is professional thing. to stretch it further, it is a presidential thing to remain calm no matter how flustered you may be.
i have noticed that you are almost as good at spinning as the repubs and the clinton machine. keep it up and rove just might have to hire you dear boy...
shaking head!!
April 11, 2008 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, the OSU Spring game is next Saturday, the 19th.
But everything else you said is the unvanrnished TRUTH!
April 11, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Amazing how her laugh turns into a post about how black and cool Obama is! Who'd a figured....(shrugs shoulders)
April 11, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink