Keith Olbermann Apologizes For Crack About Hillary
Updated below.
As I've noted here before, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann has a bizarre tendency to listen to the substance of criticism against him. Even more strange, considering that he's a top-shelf media star, is the fact that he apologizes for his conduct when he's wrong.
Today Olbermann apologized in response to criticism of a crack he made the other night about Hillary.
The barb in question came in a discussion with a guest about the fact that the super-delegates were going to have to resolve the Dem primary. Olbermann said: "Right. Somebody who can take her into a room and only he comes out."
This line drew some very sharp criticism from The Huffington Post's Rachel Sklar, who noted acidly that Olberman could "only mean one thing: Beating the crap out of Hillary Clinton, to the point where she is physically incapable of of getting up and walking out."
Which prompted Olbermann to send Sklar an apology:
It is a metaphor. I apologize: the generic "he" gender could imply something untoward. It should've been "only the other comes out -- from a political point of view." You could've called for reaction first if your main motive had merely been criticism.
Not to quibble with the great KO, but does he really call people for reaction before pillorying them as "The Worst Person In The World"?
The larger context here, obviously, is the hostility that MSNBC has shown towards Hillary for months and months now. Recall that David Shuster apologized for his "pimp" comment about Chelsea and that Chris Matthews apologized for effectively saying that Hillary would be cleaning toilets in a Dunkin' Donuts if it weren't for Bill.
And now Keith has apologized for suggesting that a burly super-del should manhandle Hillary into unconsciousness. Seems like the boys over at MSNBC have done a lot of apologizing to Hillary of late.
Late Update: A bunch of people have pointed out that I was wrong to say that Olbermann is responsive to criticism and admits it when he's wrong. Let me clarify this. I'm not talking about -- or defending -- Olbermann's night-to-night opinions here or saying that he's right on a nightly basis. I'm not saying that he's responsive to criticism of his nightly opinions.
I'm simply saying that in cases where he's been criticized for straying into particularly egregious journalistic conduct, as opposed to when he's merely criticized for spewing wrong opinions, he's been more willing to admit wrongdoing than some other top-shelf media stars have been.
I'm talking about episodes such as the above, where he suggested that perhaps a super-del should leave Hillary unconscious, or another recent one where he inadvertently had a guest on his show to talk about the presidential race despite the fact that he'd published some ridiculous anti-Edwards diatribes only days before. In cases such as these he's been willing to admit wrongdoing in a way some other media stars haven't been. That was the sole point here.
Comments (193)
i think in this instance, an apology was not warranted.
it takes a very twisted mind to think that keith olbermann was actually advocating physical violence against a presidential contender.
Seriously. When I heard that comment i didn't think, "oh keith wants someone to beat up hillary clinton."
I can only imagine why rachel sklar though that.
April 25, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with you and would go one step further and say some super delegates/Democratic Party leader should take Hillary into a back room and explain to her how she can't win and all she is doing is hurting the party (and for that matter the nation.)
April 25, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jim Clybuen came damned close today.
No more Obliteratti.
April 25, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
THANK YOU KEITH OLBERMAN !
For a moment there it seemed as though all the panty wetting at Countdown had driven you to inciting solutional homicide! The third party "apology" was a real manly display.
Let's do lunch at the gun range!
Sincerely
HRC
VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE
NOT YOUR GUILTY CONSICENSE
April 26, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Right on Brother!
Power to the People
Down with the Obama Sycophants!!!
April 26, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please explain how having a contested primary in which the voters of all the states are allowed to have a say in who will represent them during the general election is "hurting the party" and the country.
How is it that because one candidate having a small lead should cause the other should end their run to allow the other candidate can stroll through to the convention?
If there are DEMS out there that believe that Clinton is hurting Obama by contesting the nomination, wait until Rove and his crew get a chance to lay into him.
April 26, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's still an offensive comment, and I'm glad he appologized.
April 25, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree, but I do think it says a lot about Keith that he will pay attention to criticism and he will say when he thinks he was wrong.
Who else does that?
April 25, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
MSNBC and Keith didn't start off the campaign this way. Hillary herself has degraded the process so much there is just no way for KO to hide his disgust. Pretty much like the majority of us.
I think the real turning point was when Hillary right before the NH primary, played the Al Qaeda fear card. After years of brining attention to the Bush administration's fear tactics, he could not help but be disgusted with Hillary. Not to mention the LBJ/MLK statement on the same day.
Take a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BB4Vvgn_4k
April 25, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Olbermann himself only started going after HIllary recently, and I think most of his criticisms are grounded in reality. But Chris Matthews has hated her for years, and his criticisms are grounded in nothing but his own psychopathologies.
April 25, 2008 7:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is very true.
April 25, 2008 11:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
RECENTLY?
Olbermann has been sliming Clinton for MONTHS.
The hate mongering from media jackels is relentless.
The media always runs in packs. I worked in news
stations, and we used to laugh at how the talent stayed
glued to 5 TV monitors to make sure they parroted what
everyone else was parroting.
April 26, 2008 12:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
that's right slumlord
I never worked in media but I'm an observant guy. I don't sit passively sucking up everything Uebelmann or Mathews or anyone here at TPM dishes out. I compare, contrast and read a variety of sources. Then I compile and cross-check and start thinking about what the pack is trying to push on the masses. No doubt about it the Pack which includes TPM is trying to push Obama. Why? I have no clue. Perhaps they honestly think the guy is better for the nation than Hillary. The point is that they are paternalistic. I don't need Ueblemann or Russet to tell me what to think.
April 26, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Awww..a companion cube! The cake is a lie!!! (Kind of like Hillary's campaign don't you think?)
As a matter of fact her crazed laugh as an answer to the question about Bill's ties with Columbia trade deals reminded me so much of the deranged computer in that game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH_Bjz9tspI
April 26, 2008 1:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
You are wrong. Uebelmann (that's nauseous man in German) has been after Hillary ever since he fell in love with Obama. Kinda like Mathews "tingle up his leg" experience
April 26, 2008 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was agreeing that no apology was needed - it got all confused in the order of things.
April 25, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Keith is an opportunistic idiot with no more sense of justice than a slug has sense of quantum theory.
Way overrated the guy. Just another prissy metrosexual in my opinion.
He made his fame by being so BRAVE as to denounce Bush when Bush was at 28% approval rating then using his cheaply acquired fame to push his pet prejudices.
April 26, 2008 8:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
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April 25, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you stupid or just plain retarded, MSNBC has become a disgrace and for you to write that a apology wasn't warranted really validates how some idiots never learn. You, Keith Obamaman and all the rest of the other idiots have really out done herself this time.
April 25, 2008 11:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Some MSNBC anchors are hostile to Hillary. Anybody who watched electoral night last Tuesday know the whole channel is certainly not giving Obama ANY pass.
April 25, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, much like his favorite candidate, is playing a game Republicans mastered.
Ms. Clinton complains loudly about a few instances of MSNBC being tough on her, echoes it for a few weeks, until the concept has been reified by any number of talking heads, and then all instances where MSNBC is rough towards Obama become moot. The network is a priori Anti-Clinton, and since this "fact" has been established by the Clinton-Media-Clinton-SNL-Clinton Loop, it's really not productive to point out that they've been exceedingly critical of Obama as well.
I would point out that MSNBC has helped keep Clinton's failure of a campaign alive these past few weeks with false notions of "momentum" and by allowing her to move the goalposts.
April 25, 2008 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
and then there is this
and then this
further (if you really still don't get it)
Finally Pew, the mother of all media watchers
All this from
http://www.sptimes.com/2008/03/09/Opinion/Media_tainted_by_anti.shtml
Further conclusive evidence of Media Bias against Clinton can be found by anyone who is not someone who wants to get on this thread and lie for Obama.
Deadalus (who does not know his mythology...should be Daedalus) is just such an Obama shill how on a regular basis fabricates things out of whole cloth and feeds it to the minions of unwary out there. Shame on you
April 26, 2008 8:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can anyone explain to me why it is that in all this media analysis Pat Buchanan's palpable bias seems to fly under the radar? I'm a fifty-year-old white woman, and I do notice it when women are slighted (though I look for patterns and try not to overreact to a single comment). That doesn't blind me toward other forms of bigotry, however.
Like most of the right-leaning pundits on MSNBC, Buchanan has shilled for Hillary since the beginning--perhaps sincerely, perhaps for his own political motives. But he comments on Obama on multiple shows on a daily basis with complete impunity, even though his racism seems to me to be more overt than any commentator's sexism (which I'm not denying also exists, though I just don't see it in Olbermann).
Can anyone point to anything Olbermann has ever said or written about women that compares to Buchanan's response to Obama's Philadelphia speech on race?
(Yup, according to Buchanan, Sean Bell's family and fiancee ought to be on their knees at this very moment, thanking God for the good fortune of being born black in America and for the opportunity that slavery has given them for material prosperity and personal salvation!)
Check it out for yourselves:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=25634
Here's an excerpt:
A Brief for Whitey
by Patrick J. Buchanan
Posted 03/21/2008 ET
"What is wrong with Barack's prognosis and Barack's cure?
Only this. It is the same old con, the same old shakedown that black hustlers have been running since the Kerner Commission....
Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.
Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to. [Editorial interjection from your poster: Um, didn't Obama go out of his way to acknowledge just that? Now back to Pat...]
This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:
First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.
Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American."
Am I really the only one this offends?
April 26, 2008 11:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Last nights hardball was a Hillary love fest.
They run hot and cold, you take the good with the bad.
April 25, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Joe Scarborough never runs cold on Hillary.
April 25, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Joe calls her his girlfriend every single day on the show. It is one giant smooch fest for Team Clinton.
So MSNBC clearly has a split personality.
April 25, 2008 10:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
read my above post.
TRhey throw her a bone once in a while to try to cover their tracks. The fact of the matter that Media Watchers have made studies of it. Especially MSNBC and NBC in general and they are totally biased against here. That's the facts. Of course in Obama land facts don't matter it is all about "hope"
April 26, 2008 9:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's a real laugh when so many here talk about her whining when no one in this campaign has whined or complained or pouted as much as Obama. He is like a small child that isn't getting the attention of everyone in the room. His mocking juvenile attitude shows just how well he handles not being everyone's darling every minute of the day. I see it in my 3 year old quite often, my 6 yr old has out grown it.
To my knowledge Hillary hasn't even responded to Olbermann's stupid remark so the claims are just more hate mongering and childish blathering.
The only whining I hear around here is from little man's playmates!
April 26, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm glad they apologized for their lack of tact in regards to some of their comments about Senator Clinton and her family.
Now, if the rest of the MSM would apologize to Senator Obama for some of the things they've said about him and his family (O'Reilly and his "lynching" comment about Michelle Obama, the hit-job ABC debate, the 60-minutes "are you SURE he's not a Muslim" smear campaign, etc), that would be swell.
April 25, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I heard this in real time and it didn't cross my mind at all that physical violence was meant or implied. It was pretty clear that he was asking inquiring about a scenario in which there was somebody who could realistically convince Hillary to leave the race.
April 25, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course he didn't intend for it to be taken the way it was, but so what? This is just Hillary and her boosters playing the victim card, again, for the 27 billionth time.
April 25, 2008 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Greg, have you been WATCHING MSNBC!??!
Every morning Joe S. slams Obama over and over. It's become the Pastor Wright network, with Chris Matthews referring to it as Obama's "Iraq."
Yeah, K.O. is no Hillary fan, but there is no way on God's green earth you can watch MSNBC objectively morning until night and think it's pro-Obama.
April 25, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
P.S. Greg - this whole post is pretty meaningless as far as "election news" goes, unless you wanted to get in your opinion that MSNBC is "anti-Hillary"
April 25, 2008 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
We here in the reality Based Community..as opposed to the World According to Obama Fantasy Land look at media watchers for a determination of whether there is any bias...here are the facts for you. Hope it doers not break your fragile heart
http://www.sptimes.com/2008/03/09/Opinion/Media_tainted_by_anti.sht
April 26, 2008 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm so confused. This comment was untoward? Wow, I must be out of touch.
April 25, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Hillary camp will use any means to play the sexism/victim card, especially against KO who holds her feet to the fire. Did you see his interview with her the other night?
April 25, 2008 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure I'm not the first person to ask this, but why does everybody at TPM call Hillary Clinton 'Hillary' and Barack Obama 'Obama'? We don't refer to John McCain as 'John', do we?
April 25, 2008 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because "Clinton" could refer to Bill.
And please take note Hillary actually WANT to be called Hillary as it is a way to humanize her and to distinguish her own identity from her husband.
April 25, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do it because there are really two Clintons, Bill and Hillary. It's just avoids confusion, I think.
Also, "Hillary" uses "Hillary" as her campaign logo.
April 25, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
While I'm not sure I buy either one of those - we know which Clinton is running against Obama, and there are two Obamas, two McCains, two Edwards, two of just about every politician's surname if they're married - I appreciate the help nonetheless. And it's good to know that journalists do what campaigns tell them to do.
April 25, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've always thought that phenomenon was vaguely sexist.
But a poster above makes a good point - for the purposes of her campaign, Hillary generally calls herself 'Hillary'.
And there are indeed two prominent Clintons.
So while I do buy those two points to a large degree, I still get a whiff of sexism.
April 25, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
So now we are sexist if we refer to her by the name she uses herself? I bought this BS argument for a long time and consistenly refered to her as Sen Clinton and him as Sen Obama. Then I looked at her signage when she was giving a speach and decided that I had bought a load of crap.
April 25, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Its a good question and the answers helped me too. I do also buy the "which Clinton" thing because he is so visible in her campaign and intertwined in her experience. Obama: "Who am I running against anyway?"
April 26, 2008 10:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because that is how they identify themselves. Read their signs.
April 25, 2008 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
this makes it clear that obama should DROP OUT. sorry, happy hour at work.
April 25, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone listening to him say this knew he meant that it would have to be someone stronger than her becuase of all the browbeating she has inflicted on the supers already and that super would have to be stronger enough to be the one to come out of the room.
The fact Rachel thought he meant literally beating her is pathetic.
I'm actually amazed he even apologized at yet another fake outrage from the Clinton's camp/supporters at all.
April 25, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Recall that David Shuster apologized for his "pimp" comment about Chelsea"
On the weekend before the Pennsylvania Primaryt
,the Clinton Camp had Chelsey trolling Lesbian bars, and even getting her ass grabbed. The Washington Post
wrote about it. Here is the link:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/04/19/on_the_gay_bar_circuit_with_ch.html
April 25, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
And yet the Clintons all these years protected their daughter, that is until Mom runs for president. I don't know, but that seems pretty much like pimping out to me.
April 25, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the naming convention is just following how the candidates refer to themselves as best represented by their yard signs.
I agree with:
- Olbermann not needing to apologize for this
- it is sort of funny that he of all people calls her out for not asking for a comment first
- Morning Joe is a flaming idiot / GOP hack who seems to be following right along with their script
- Chris Matthews isn't much better
And I'd add that Olbermann is one of the few journalists who consistently report the fact that this race is basically over and that Clinton's refusal to concede says something about how she and her husband do business / politics. His snark follows that line of reporting (in a sarcastic, funny way that is his style)
April 25, 2008 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
So he apologized to Skylar? Olbermann and his brownshirt street thug Schuster are a disgrace.
But I suppose if you wanted to write something to Olbermann where he would see it, it would be at HuffPuke. That's what his show is, Huffington in video form.
April 25, 2008 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just to clarify, this idiot's equating David Schuster with Nazi stormtroopers.
April 25, 2008 5:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Correct.
April 25, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
It would be correct for me to categorize you as a douchebag..
April 25, 2008 6:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
whos going to apoligize to hillary after bill walks out on her after she recovers mentally from losing the nomination?
April 25, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
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April 25, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is infantile.
Sen Clinton threatens Iran with obliteration, and MSNBC news people are Brown Shirts, though they allegedly hate Sen Clinton.
Infantile, and lacking any consistent logic.
Unless you lived in the Nazi Era, you ought to shut up. And if you did, you ought to also shut up because there is no comparison here.
Stop projecting your fear-stink.
And we hope to see you soon for tea!
Pax,
M.
April 25, 2008 9:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
When will Hillary Clinton apologize to America? :(
April 25, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
In light of the violent pundit comments Jon Stewart noted in his 4/23 show (not yet online), including suggestions that candidates go at each other with baseball bats, THIS is apology-worthy?
April 25, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't agree that MSNBC talent has been whole-sale anti-Hillary. Pat Buchanan loves her and throughout this whole Pennsylvania primary, Joe Scarborough and Chris Matthews seem to repeating all of her bogus arguements regarding BHO's supposed electability problems ad nauseum. Personally, I think the way that given the larger context of the way the Clinton campaign has been mismanaged, all of Bill's bone-headed statements, the Hill campaigns ever-shifting use of bogus metrics, the Bosnia thing, and the fact that a surefire front-runner with all of the institutional advantages of a presidential incumbent (rolodex, name recognitions, the Clinton legacy etc), Hillary and her campaign do deserve a ton of criticism.
April 25, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
For exploitations sake.....Im glad he apologized.
Nothing else to see in my opinion...:)
April 25, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, I heard this comment real-time, too, and I don't think it was offensive in the least. He said it almost under his breath, as a means to finish off the dialog with a guest, and in no way could it be construed as advocating physical violence.
I think we have another case of manufactured outrage.
And, no, I don't think Olbermann has demonstrated any real bias against Mrs. Clinton. He *has* been one of the few in the media to challenge the talking heads as to how she could possibly win and what she could possibly hope to gain by staying in this long. That's a real issue, and I wish the MSM would do the same. If you watch ABC or NBC Nightly News, they just gloss over the fact that she has NO CHANCE OF WINNING NOW. "Oh look, the horses are still running. Isn't it interesting!"
And no way is MSNBC biased against Mrs. Clinton. Chris Matthews (Tweety) is an idiot. Why he hasn't had his Don Imus moment already is beyond me. He talks out his ass most of the time. (And why Olbermann allows himself to be seen on the same set with Tweety is also a mystery.)
-- ARG
April 25, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
You don't get it. Olbermann tells the truth and the truth has an anti-Hillary bias. Therefore Olbermann is biased, once removed.
April 25, 2008 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
April 26, 2008 1:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, when will Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos apologize to the country for making it watch them throw their poo at Barack Obama, jump up and down and hoot for an hour?
When will every person who has slandered an 80 year old ex Marine minister of the United Church of Christ apologize?
I could go on -
April 25, 2008 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, do! Do. My sense is if you started with the ambition to list them all, you would have to pass on the task to your lovely grandchildren...
April 25, 2008 9:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
i thought the clinton meme was if you can't stand the heat...
oh well. guess MSNBC gives off too much heat.
and i've never heard obama demand outright apologies from networks who call him muslim, anti-american, etc.
give me a break.
April 25, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Um, Hillary never asked for an apology, nor even acknowledged it. And Olbermann didn't apologize to Hillary. In other words, nothing changes.
What I'm not surprised about it is that it was Fineman he was circle jerking with. His entire show is relegated to 3 CDS jock sniffers from 1990s. The first 15 minutes is hate on Hillary, the next half hour is giving cover to Obama, and the last 15 minutes is laughing at the Dumb Fucking Blonde of the Day.
What a guy.
April 25, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sounds like a great show.
April 25, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sorry, are you sitting on your remote? Does not your Magic Picture Box tune in, say, Fox?
You render unto yourself poor victimhood.
April 25, 2008 9:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
For anyone to think that Olbermann literally advocated a physical assault is ludicrous, nonetheless, I'm glad that he apologized, now the gadflies can move on.
Meanwhile back on the ranch, Rush wants rioting in the streets of Denver and McCain, now that he desperately needs the votes, extends some compassion to the Big Easy.
April 25, 2008 5:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
MSNBC is a disgrace.
Stop watching that crap. It is an insult to any intelligent viewer.
The idiot is going continue playing race games and disrespecting the President with Clyburn.
The rest of the media is headlining with Wright.
Go back to Sports Keith. You are a disgrace like Rush.
April 25, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whiner.
April 25, 2008 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Didn't you get the message, GetaLife? Rush is Hill's BFF now. Come on, get with it!
By the way, I see we're back to having to log in multiple times to post a comment. What gives, Greg?
April 25, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Carol...the Idiot Mario (Radio show here in Denver) just played the clip of Rush.......I get what they are up to...They are defining it again. There goes the mind contol....He said "we want the supers to make the decision, not the voters" Did people catch that? It's the notion that the supers comming out for a candidate(as they should) is not the will of the people, in other words Chaos! I wonder did everyone catch the talking point....lol...these people have to go HRC supporters. You shouldnt be cozying up to this ilk!!! (vomit)
April 25, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
The rest of the media was glowing about the Iraq war and repeating all of Bush's scare tactics on the American population.
Olbermann was the lone voice in the wind calling them on their fearmongering and degradation of the constitution.
Olbermann holds a higher standard than the sheep at other networks. I suppose you are pissed because Keith doesn't follow the Hillary's rovian spin like the repeated Bush Admin meme's?
April 25, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meow.
April 25, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Respect is earned. And lying obliteratti do not cut the mustard, irrespective of who else may be running.
April 25, 2008 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The larger context here, obviously, is the hostility that MSNBC has shown towards Hillary for months and months now."
Gee Greg - perhaps SOMEONE has to counter the obvious bias for HILLARY both here and at several other media outlets...
April 25, 2008 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dr. Hillary Strangelove Clinton threatened to "obliterate" seventy million human beings, men women and CHILDREN, even though their country does not have a single nuke, and the country that Hillary is standing up for has hundreds, and they are offended by a Mr. Olbermann's quip!.
Yes indeed; we should all be completely outraged by Mr. Olbermann's use of a Metaphor about the Person who threatened to "Obliterate seventy million Human Beings by launching a Nuclear Holocaust on them.
Shame on you Mr. Olbermann. Be kind to our version of George W. Bush in a Pantsuit!!!
April 25, 2008 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I reckon the key word is apology. If that Rodham dame wants more, she has her friends over at Fox.
April 25, 2008 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The larger context here, obviously, is the hostility that MSNBC has shown towards Hillary for months and months now. "
This is an embarrassing thing for an adult to say in public.
April 25, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
the gregger's inability to feel shame IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!
April 25, 2008 6:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love your opening line on that one :)
April 26, 2008 12:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Another is Hillary's manager Terry McAuliffe saying how Fair and Balanced Fox News is.
Fox News is Fair and Balanced?????????
Even Hillary said as much.
She was like sweet Anakin Skywalker when she was a democrat. Now she has been turned to the dark side by Melon Scaife, Drudge, and Rove's praise. She has now morphed into a republican - Darth Clinton!
Her trainer, Darth Cheney, has taught her well in the arts of the dark side. Take a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFZL33nPoEU
April 26, 2008 3:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
the premise is an illusion --
MSNBC has bent over backwards to not only be fair to Hillary Clinton but to be out of reality --
Chris Matthews not 2 minutes ago said if Hillary wins Indiana - what is wrong with Barack and the race will have changed yada yada yada--
Since when is Indiana a given?
Hillary Clinton has the institutional support of the Dmeocratic State Party in Indiana
Chris Matthews swung over to the dark side during after Pennsylvania Primary - if his dream is to run for office (as he said on Colbert) and his MSNBC contract is up next year - Matthews wants the Ed Rendell organization behind him --
--
MSNBC also has the absurdly pre Hillary (in the primary at least) Joe Scarborugh and the absurd as a commentator Pat Buchanan --
The David Gregory Show is a daily Obama bashing --
The Only consistent people on MSNBA have been Keith and Dan Abrams (who really seems pretty fair minded)
April 25, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
April 25, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes because Hillary is a victim.
Except that she is tenacious and strong, and has never lost a political battle in the past. It's, it's.....know what, its not worth it. Its happy hour!
April 25, 2008 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary loves to play victim.
As a woman I don't believe there was anything sexist in the metaphor-it could easily apply to a man in a similar situation. I believe Hillary's campaign is attempting to portray the media as mean spirited towards her. She has taken PROJECTION to a new level. Her constant whining about unfairness (think how she has complained about favoritism toward Obama when in fact analysis show the media has been easier on her) seems to be another one of her vacuous campaign strategies.
April 25, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Again, Hillary didn't ask for an apology.
April 25, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
For the record, Chris Matthews just now did an entire segment about how Barack Obama had to prove he could win the white vote, AGAIN. He mentioned that Obama hasn't won it since February 19, without ever once mentioning that Hillary has NEVER won the African American vote this cycle. This despite the fact that Tucker Carlson, of all people, reminded him in an earlier segment that Democrats would never win any election without the black vote. And how about Josh highlighting, earlier this week, Matthews' tendency to imply that black voters are not "regular people." Where the hell are the posts on this? Why does it only matter when people on MSNBC say mean things about Hillary?
And no, I don't think Greg or TPM is biased toward Hillary. But Matthews, and others, tendency to regard black voters as a monolithic group, that will brainlessly support whatever Democrat is thrown on the ticket in November, is pretty God damn offensive, and it ought to be highlighted.
Also, David Gregory finally brought this up. So bravo to him.
April 25, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply |