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Joe Trippi: Edwards Would Commend Hillary's Poverty Czar Idea
This should get the Edwards endorsement tea-leaf readers going.
I just got off the phone with former John Edwards adviser Joe Trippi, and he says that Edwards would commend and support Hillary's idea for a cabinet-level poverty czar, which she proposed during a speech today.
"That would absolutely be something Edwards would welcome," Trippi says. "As someone close to him, a cabinet level position on poverty is something he would support 100 percent."
"Edwards pushed both [Obama and Hillary] to focus on poverty," Trippi adds. "She's done something to be commended for."
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One reason I was glad Edwards dropped out was Joe Trippi.
I'm sensitive to the people these candidates hire to run their campaigns, because most of the consultants who have been doing this for Democrats for several election cycles JUST LOSE.
April 4, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is now Friday afternoon.
Hillary, where are the tax records.
Hillary, where are the tax records.
Hillary, where are the tax records.
April 4, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh look everybody, KEN STAR just came in!
April 5, 2008 12:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
As a former Edwards supporter and Iowa caucus precinct captain for him in 2004, I have to say that his behavior since leaving the race is simply shameful.
That an empty promise of a Czar position is so commendable by Edwards (albeit via Trippi) shows how superficially lame John has been in his efforts to keep poverty on the agenda but also support a candidate that stands up for the middle class and does not take bags of cash from lobbyists.
I am ashamed to have supported John Edwards. Who cares what he thinks anymore; his non-courage displayed via his self-interested silence since leaving the race is disgusting.
April 4, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I originally supported Edwards too, but after listening to what he had to say on the campaign trail, I came to the conclusion that he's a total charlatan. He and Hillary share the quality of being able to shamelessly say or do virtually anything to achieve their personal goals. They deserve each other.
April 5, 2008 9:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Edwards never actually did much for the poor that didn't also enrich himself. But it was a nice sounding campaign theme. When he racks up a lifetime of Jimmy Carter-type activism, then maybe I'll respect Edwards as a man of his words.
April 4, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I'm, sure she's going to make a "task force" and "committee" to deal with the issue as well.
Maybe they will publish a big document after years of study of the issue.
April 4, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's interesting that Clinton and Edwards, by far the two wealthiest candidates on the Dem side, are the two most vigorously pushing poverty as an issue. That's not to say that they're hypocrites, but it does give them a greater chance.
The other thing that's interesting is that all of the resources the government needs to alleviate poverty already exist. The creation of a "Poverty Czar" is just as ridiculous as having a "Drug Czar" or a "czar" to fight the War on Terror.
The reason why poverty exists is not because their is not a governmental branch that can fight it, but because there has been no political will to do anything about poverty. Whoever is the next president needs to seriously address the issue of employment, living standards, health care, urban crime, rural and agricultural issues, and education. That's how you fight poverty.
I'm impressed that Clinton continues to speak about these issues, but to attempt to solve the problem by simply creating another branch of government is completely the wrong way to go about it. In my humble opinion.
April 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me? Not that impressed. The Clintons have a history of making big promises and following through with little.
It's convenient and easy for HRC to promise this now: it's just words. An empty promise that will not see the light of day. How interesting that it was the Clintons who signed off on the massive welfare reform bill, which so many Democrats opposed, and that lead to the creation of a large class of "under-employed," that is people who are working at low-wage jobs with minimal if any benefits. These are the people who are working at waitressing jobs and greeting you at Wal-Mart or flipping burgers for minimum wage. They are not eligible for welfare and other auxiliary benefits, might barely qualify for food stamps, housing subsidies.
The Clintons had eight years to work on poverty when they were in the White House, but didn't. And since their departure have made -- as evidenced to day with the release of their tax returns -- $109 million dollars (averaging $15.5 million each year), hardly paupers. The bulk of their "charitable" donations are to the family charity.
The "poverty czar" idea is lots of talk which will be followed by no action. If Hillary thinks Edwards' endorsement will come from this, keep dreaming -- er, hallucinating. She'll still be some 130 or so delegates behind, in a race that is over. If Edwards was really going to endorse her, he would have done it already when it would have done her some good. North Carolina will not be a factor.
April 4, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is anybody keeping track of how many czars she's said she's going to crown after she's electede? And is there anything left that's going to governed by regular cabinet secretaries other than one of the multiplicity of Hillerine czars?
April 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
NCSteve, you are blatantly ignoring the most important czar of all: the red phone czar! ...or wait, is that the same thing as the president?
Anyone know where Hillary's super special org chart is so I can figure this out...?
April 4, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is my take on this:
This is Edwards prep for announcing his endorsement of Hillary. And he will be the Poverty Czar as payback.
I find him very dissapointing.
April 4, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
if Edwards falls for this transparent, shameless, desperate ploy, he and Clinton deserve each other.
April 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Penn is obviously sniffing too much colombian because this is just bad PR word choice. The historical context of the word "Czar" makes it seem like the person's job is to cause poverty by drinking a small country's GDP worth of roderer crystal. (the czar need a god damn a clear bottle, godamnit!)
April 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can blame Greg for that.
In the linked speech, Hillary never mentions the word "czar", just a "high-level cabinet position."
It could be a good idea...
or, like so many other agencies, it could cost more money than do good. It all depends on how it is implemented.
April 4, 2008 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can also blame Hillary:
http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/blog/main/2008/04/04/203815
April 5, 2008 8:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
As if that wasn't a transparent attempt to buy JRE's endorsement with a job offer.
I doubt he would be that dumb.
April 4, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure the $109 million will convince Edwards the Clintons' know a lot about poverty.
April 4, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Holy christ.
"Poverty Czar" is such a profoundly hilarious historical irony that only the gruesome suffering and death in filth of millions upon millions in poverty under various czars blunts its ability to have one rolling on the floor.
Also, in other news, Santa Claus has expressed approval for establishing a cabinet-level position of Being Nice.
April 4, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Given his years as a community organizer in poor neighborhoods, Obama has experience of poverty that I think informs all his policy positions. Would creating another cabinet-level position necessarily be a more effective route than reinvigorating existing organizations (such as HHS, agriculture, energy, commerce, labor, HUD, etc) to work together in ways that address their effects on poverty?
April 4, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Edwards didn't just talk the talk, he walks the walk. After '04 he went back to work at the Southern Poverty whatever it is that he founded.
I'd like to see some backup for your claim he never did anything for the poor that didn't enrich himself.
I ain't buying that.
Just like I ain't buying Hillary's tax returns - I've read estimates that they have raked in way more money than they claim.
April 4, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tena, you can't mean the Southern Poverty Law Center. That was founded in 1971 by Morris Dees and Joe Levin, which isn't to say Edwards hasn't been affiliated with it at some point, but I'm just sayin.
April 4, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't bother to point out that she was conflating Edward's efforts on poverty with the Southern Poverty Law Center, but I did offer some "backup" as requested on the UNC Center on Poverty, Work and Opportunity below.
April 4, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just for the record:
Hillary doesn't use the word "czar" in her speech.
That's all Greg.
April 4, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wonder if a "poverty czar" gets paid as much as a trial lawyer?
April 4, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
The poor do not cause poverty. The super greedy cause poverty. We do not need a poverty Czar.
What America needs is a War on Robber Barons. They are the bastards that cause extreme poverty.
Hillary is fond of scoffing at "just speeches". Looks like her Big Foot Bill has gotten mighty fat off of "Just Speeches"
What did all those payoffs real buy. How many more Marc Rich types have already prepaid for their get out of jail free cards from the next Clinton Presidency!
April 4, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
re: "he went back to work at the Southern Poverty whatever it is"
okay, here's some info on that "whatever it is" he did for about two years. I found this in about one minute searching online:
not a bad pay rate. wish i had rich donors that would pay me the same for that level of commitment.
as for his "expertise" on the subject of poverty, well, the same article has a bit on that too...
oops. after suing for profit for most of his life, he commits to poverty issues for two years (while spending more time enriching himself further at a hedge fund), and voila a poverty-oriented campaign for President was born without him ever having sacrificed anything personal for the cause, not even much of his own time
sorry, but call me unimpressed
April 4, 2008 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
The idea is laudable . . . BUT realistically the chance that any Cabinet Post in the Clinton Administration not being contracted directly from GE is nil . . . So the the intent will be most likely be obscured.
April 4, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton may not have used "czar" in her speech, but she does have it on her website. It's her choice of words.
And I have to agree with those who've pointed out the irony in the phrase poverty czar. Possibly one of the most moronic (or rather, oxymoronic) terms ever invented by government.
Who thought this was a good idea? Let's give the person charged with ending poverty a title that invokes images of some of the worst abuses of the poor ever!
Does anybody in that campaign know anything about history?
April 4, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice of the Clinton's to prep everyone for the endorsement that will end Edwards' political career.
I wonder if Obama will call Edwards a 'Judas'?
April 4, 2008 5:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
NO, it's something else which is why I said "something or other"
I'm not that dumb, honest.
I just can't recall the official name of the org he founded and works with.
April 4, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Have never thought you were dumb.
: )
Just didn't think it would help if things got all crossed up over that detail.
April 4, 2008 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, I don't care how rich Edwards is--at least he talked about the poor. He made poverty an issue in the campaign, hardly a winning issue. In fact he might have done better had he not. But he talked about poverty and put the pressure on other candidates. And I hope President Obama is inspired by his efforts.
April 4, 2008 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anybody wanting poverty to go away would enforce the Sherman Anti-trust Acts and ask that the nation's tax rate be rolled back to the levels charged under President Eisenhower.
Throw in a law demanding that any corporation providing goods or services to the federal government or transportting goods or services across any state line to any American governmental entity be headquartered on American soil as an American corporation . . .
April 4, 2008 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary is offering John a cabinet position, is all this is.
Obama obviously wasn't willing to give Edwards want he wanted. He refused Edwards shakedown. thank goodness
Hillary has yet to release the tax returns that we requested which are for the year
2007
She always thinks she is so slick. Releasing all these back years but not the ones that really count.
Last year, after she announced her candidacy.
We want to know who she and Bill are taking money from based on the promise of their returning to the WH,
This is a data dump withOUT the pertinent data requested.
April 4, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
This sounds planned out, no? She announces the poverty cabinet position (possibly just to get his endorsement), he says through his adviser that he supports that 100%, and then Clinton perhaps will offer it to him later in public....and there you have it!
This clears the way for him to look like he didn't sell out, he just really wants to do something about poverty. It redeems him.
It ends up not looking like an endorsement of Clinton, but rather a furthering of his beliefs, an opportunity to "champion a cause."
This is what he will tell himself...
The people will see through it though, esp. his supporters- which is many labor unions, people left of center, the labor movement itself will feel he sold out. Then again, maybe they should have done more to help him out during the early primary season.
Makes no sense whatsoever for him to go with Clinton, but hey...I hope he comes to his senses. He and Obama are much more in synch in terms of their politics.
April 4, 2008 10:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
What exactly would a poverty Czar do??
April 5, 2008 12:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Comb his hair back carefully and endorse Clinton, I guess.
April 5, 2008 12:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
The ONLY reason Hillary is talking about this is because she needs Edwards' endorsement. As to the idea itself, it's moronic. Remember Bill Bennett, the senior Bush's "drug czar"? This is sort of the same deal. Hillary's "poverty czar" would be a vanity post with virtually no staff and no power to do anything other than to stay out of the way and hold an occasional press conference.
More desperate nonsense from a campaign that's becoming more irrelevant by the day.
April 5, 2008 8:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
So, Obama says that he will have a cabinet-level position with Gore's name on it and a day later Clinton creates a cabinet-level position with Edwards written all over it. Coincidence? I think we may have a little counter-endorsement strategizing here, although I don't believe that either Gore or Edwards will rise to the bait.
April 5, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Edwards waited to long to be relevant. Show him the door, or doors-- considering the size of that mansion from which he spouts pleas for the poor.
April 5, 2008 11:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, Edwards is a slimey weazel, one obvious clue is his "Center for Opportunity Blahblahblah" which was his centerpiece anti-poverty campaign. Look at their annaul report, as i have and you dimwits have obviously not, and you'll see it has one full-time program employee, a PT director, and a secretary.
The solution to poverty in America? Ship poor people to third world countries and give them enough money to live ok in Ghana or whereever, it would be a lot cheaper and more pleasing asthetically than having them stay in the US.
April 6, 2008 8:38 AM | Reply | Permalink