Ahem. Senator, do you have any idea how sick Americans get of campaign season? I'm willing to bet at least half the people who see your ad say right back at the TV: "I wish to hell it was over too!"

Regardless of who they are voting for.

Let's be clear: she's not just saying that Obama's supporters want to "prevent them from being able to vote", she's saying that Obama himself is wanting this.

I.e., she's lying.

Every time I think she has finally hit rock bottom, she gets out the jackhammer and goes even lower.

She apparently thinks that lying and whining about unfair treatment is how you win elections.

She really is the most uninspiring candidate I've ever seen (and that includes Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis). I hope that the fact that she will mobilize 0 people who don't already support her is factoring into the superdelegates' decision on whom to support at the convention.

How could anyone say that Obama wants the race to end? How could anyone believe such a thing? Obviously he wants the race to continue as long as it possibly can so that everyone has a chance to be represented, even if that means his narrow lead over Clinton might diminish and open the possibility of superdelegates siding with Hillary. That's because Mr. Obama is not a politician. He's not in this to win. He's in it for to fight for what is right. He believes only in fair play and goodness and hope for all. He will continue to urge Mrs. Clinton to fight on, because he is a totally fair and selfless man. And then there will be world peace and prosperity for all, and the birds will sing, and the lion will lie down with the lamb....

And:

"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the superdelegates who may ultimately decide the Democratic party's presidential nominee have a right to vote as they wish."

Obama made a huge mistake and she is making him pay for it.

Deal with it trolls.

Couldn't it also "suggest" that they're a desperate campaign that's willing to say anything to buy themselves more time?

And this will sway undecided voters how?

Calling attention to the fact that many prominent Democrats want her to concede in an effort to unite the party and win in November helps her how?

Reminding people that she is far behind in the pledged delegate count helps her how?

Lying about what Obama has publicly said helps her how?

Having no money and losing superdelegate support helps her how?

Remember that Huckabee railed against the Republican power brokers who asked him to leave the race, as well. And I don't remember more people voting for him because of it.

Obama needs to denounce AND reject this assertion on Clintons part. He further needs to state that he not only wants all votes in all states to count. But that he has had a 50 state strategy from the beginning and that he has not cherry picked states to campaign in. That he planned from the start to go all the way to the convention and he is glad to see that Hillary Clinton has now decided to join him in this 50 state campaign unlike her statement in Dec 07 that the race would be over on Super Tuesday as she told Stephanopoulous.

Ahhhh, you can smell the desperation.

When the polls are tightening and the lies are exposed, what do Clintons do?

Lie some more, what else could we expect?

Does this mean every primary that hasn't lasted until the convention has been an act of mass disenfranchisement?

But ending it on February 5th would have been o.k., right???

another day, another straw to grasp.

You know, I heard Bill make a similar statement in Kentucky a week ago. This seems like the dumbest straw man argument yet. No one is trying to shut down voting, whether she is an active candidate or not.

And I don't think this makes her look like the "feisty underdog," it makes her look sad, desperate and dishonest. All it will take is a quick Youtube video of Hillary and Bill making these statements interspersed with clips of Obama, Pelosi and others saying she should continue campaigning.

but then,

since Obama hasn't actually said that

doesn't that make Clinton even more of a liar?

Why yes it does.

and strabo's link deserves to be reposted.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7360/cm20capture201mr4.jpg

"Obama had greater role on liberal survey";

"During his first run for elected office, Barack Obama played a greater role than his aides now acknowledge in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion — positions that appear at odds with the more moderate image he has projected during his presidential campaign.

The evidence comes from an amended version of an Illinois voter group’s detailed questionnaire, filed under his name during his 1996 bid for a state Senate seat."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html

Told you he is a fraud trolls.

In Clintonian I believe this is called misspeaking.

Will any undecided voter fall for this? It seems you would have to already be pretty anti-Obama to actually believe he doesn't want everyone to vote (note she actually says he wants to "prevent" them voting, as if he doesn't want there to be an election at all). Even Clinton supporters (TPM trolls notwithstanding) aren't anti-Obama for the most part, so if anything this may peel off some of her soft support. Repeatedly saying he doesn't want "you" to vote sounds obviously pandering as well, so that may be a turnoff as well. The campaign really is completely tone-deaf -- sometimes doing whatever it takes to win doesn't actually help you win, it just makes people think you will do whatever it takes to win.

I said to a conservative colleage at work the other day: "Friend, we should cherish this moment. When else will we both be able to say that we hate Hillary Clinton equally?"

At some point, Obama trolls will admit he is a lying fraud:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html

The gop will do it for you trolls.

Clinton is a "vile," "lying," "desperate," "slimy," "dishonest" "monster"? Might I remind you that we are speaking of a fellow democrat here. I am just as eager to see Obama win as any of my Obama-supporter fellows here, but I would submit to you that this sort of talk is not helpful. We have as much as won folks. Now is the time to be gracious in victory. Clinton's supporters on this board cannot give her a victory in the primaries (and even if they could, we could not stop them with epithets) but they can still abandon the party and cede a victory to McCain (who is the real enemy in this election). We need to be working to reconcile them to our candidate, not alienating them further by gratuitous disparagements of a candidate whom they love and admire.

That said, I do have to question the effectiveness of the approach that Sen Clinton is taking here. I daresay that if the voters of PA, NC, OR, KY, WV, SD & MT were really critically concerned about having a say, they would have urged their states to move up to Feb 5. I am not arguing that they ought not to have their say. I am simply pointing out that it is hard to believe that they are really particular exercised by the idea of voting in a non-competitive race. I suppose that we will see how this works, but I am not especially worried at this point.

Holy punchcards! Obama is once agian using his super election-stopping power! The fiend!

Little is known about this power, but many believe he acquired it after cutting himself on a sharp corner of a radioactive voting booth during the Illinois primary. Since that time, by use of this dark and mysterious power, he has prevented the Florida and Michigan Democratic parties from submitting valid delegate selection plans to the DNC and has even stopped the Michigan and Florida legislatures from passing laws!

Now, encouraged by these successes, this evil mastermind is turning the full force of this super power onto the remaining primaries! Polling places will mysteriously vanish! Laws will disappear from the statute books! Little old ladies who've served as precinct captains for decades will suddenly develop an overpowering urge to blow the whole thing off and hit the bingo parlor!

Who, oh who, will save us from this supernatural wave of disenfranchisement?

She is a lying piece of cow poo.

Why is anyone surprised is beyond me,as per David Geffen the Clintons lie with ease unforseen before.
Another lie is that the Dems have 2 outstanding candidates.HClinton is not an outstanding candidates.She is a liar.

Trolls think Obama did not know what Dodd, Leahy, Richardson and Pelosi were trying to do is ridiculous.

It was a hige mistake and he should pay for it.

Stop giving him a free pass trolls.

Obama had greater role on liberal survey";

"During his first run for elected office, Barack Obama played a greater role than his aides now acknowledge in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion — positions that appear at odds with the more moderate image he has projected during his presidential campaign.

Well thank god, because those are just the kinds of progressive positions I've been hoping for from a Democrat.

It's so very interesting how every time we get close to being in power in the party, something happens to push us out of the way again. We had to go from Dean to Kerry - why? Because Kerry was supposedly more electable. Yeah that worked.

Americans actually like progressive ideas, as long as you don't couch them in objectionable terms like: "do you agree with the socialists and communists that healthcare should be available for everyone?"

Dude.

Here's some news from Mississippi; Obama picks one delegate and Hillary loses one:

Today, the Mississippi Secretary of State posted the new numbers. The final tally is:

Obama - 265,502
Clinton - 159,221

That gives Obama a heads-up 62.512% victory, which WILL switch another state-wide at-large delegate to him (there are 4 statewide pledged PLEO's in Mississippi, so 62.5% is the tipping point for them to break 3-1 instead of 2-2).

Net net? Now Mississippi broke 20-13.

On another note, Obama's margin of victory in Mississippi no longer "almost eclipsed" Hillary's primary margin in Texas - it completely surpassed it. To all you popular vote total affecianadoes, the hill just got a little steeper.

It's not like she's not used to lying on camera.

May be Clinton should act all butt-hurt and cry again so people will vote for her . . . When she's running as McCain's VP.

McCain-Clinton '08

Still scared of Americans.

Would some reporter please call the Clintons on their hypocrisy. It takes alot of balls for the campaign that told students in Iowa that they shouldn't participate, that sued in Nevada to block shift workers from participating, that challenged entire precincts in texas to disqualify voters that it is not they but Senator Obama that wants to block people from voting. When will someone ask her about this?

And that doesn't even include Florida and Michigan. If their voices were so important why was the Senator herself telling them they don't count? Why did her own senior advisor Ickes actually cast a vote that stripped those states of their delegations? Why did her own campaign chairman Mcauliffe advocate a similar punishment for Michigan in 2004 when he was DNC chairman? How does she square these facts with her assertion now that it really is all Senator Obama's fault?

President Hillary Rodham Clinton, you funny!

LOL!!!

Please. Obama does not want people to vote. He does not want people in MI and FL vote. He changed his tune a couple of days because his tactic of calling her withdraw was backfiring.

But rest assure Obama does not want people to vote, especially the people in MI and FL.

This is really rich coming from someone is trying to use corrupt party insiders (super delegates) to loot and steal the election by completely disenfranchising all those who have voted. So it is okay for Hillary and her Minions to over-rule the will of the voters while making false claims about Obama wanting to end the Primary when he has said repeatedly over the last several days that she should be in the contest for as long as she wants!

Someone should go on all those TV stations to point this out.

It is unbelievable how Hillary lies and twists the facts. It at all surprising though. This is what she does best.

O he's talking about a comment earlier, that was really paraphrasing several dozen I've read from Clinton supporters and others, who say they are Obama supporters, lately. The comment is always similar and usually long, but it's an attempt to reason the commenter's way into the thinking of the SDs - I just read another one a cafe thread this morning. Invariably it goes like this: The Wright controversy has secretly convinced the SDs that Obama is too black to win, and because they have independent judgment, they will pick Clinton. Ok, that is talking about race, but I was pointing out what others are saying, not me cause my response to those comments is always the same: how the hell do you know what they're thinking?

gotalife just thinks because I went off on him the other day he can push that button any time.

Nope - that's why I went off on you - I got it out of the way.

:)

I assume that Obama would want the race to end period, with him as the winner. That's really not that controversial.

I'm from a late voting state, and our primary vote never ever matters. It's not like we're suddenly being disenfranchised. The decision has always been made long before Oregon votes.

Should we all be attacking John McCain for disenfranchising the GOP voters of 30 states, because he won the nomination so early? How dare he!

It's spring break and Hillary is going wild.

How sad we Americans have to even consider Madame Bipolar for President? Many of us in New York can't wait for her to come back to us for Senate reelection.

barry hussein obama, you made another misstep.

This is after he had all his surrogates run out and tell her to get out.

they did that to hurt her ability to raise money. THEY PLAYED DIRTY

just like they refused to let Fla. & Michigan re-vote. THEY PLAYED DIRTY

But that's ok. Just wait. If b.hussein is successful in this PLAY DIRTY campaign, then the Republicans will show him just what PLAYING DIRTY really is.

it's almost worth it to see him win!

ROFLMAO
"I am woman, here me ROAR!"

I think this and other exaggerations, misrepresentations, and outright lies by Hillary Clinton show she's not ready for that 3:00 AM phone call. She keeps getting in trouble in the long-term for things she does for short-term gain, without even considering long-term impact. If she's this bad with time to plan, how will she function when she has to think on her feet?

Is that really the kind of Commander in Chief we need? (It IS the kind of Commander in Chief we currently have, and look how that's worked out!)

Ok, so damn much is being made out of nothing here, let's talk about Hillary's incredible arrogance in calling for Obama to give it up and just be her running mate -

"1) Obama is not a Muslim. But he continues to insist he never was. This is a plain lie. Why he makes it, remains beyond us.

2) He claims no relationship to Islam. Utter lie. A majority of his brothers and sisters, and other relatives are Muslim.

3) Obama’s opposition to the Iraq war, while laudable in hindsight made little sense in 2002, except when his family, ethnic, and religious identity enter the equation.

5) Obama consistently downplays his relationship with Jeremiah Wright.

6) Lies about Wright’s personal influence.

7) Lies about his involvement with Wright’s politics, and the politics of Wright’s Church.

Obama forces Jeremiah Wright to dissimulate about the nature of his church, his and their views, opinions, and achievements.

9) Obama dissimulates on Wright’s past association with Farrakhan.

10) Obama employs Nation of Islam, in the past and present.Lets them go untouched, which

11) Raises concerns about Obama’s own stance on the Nation of Islam.

12) Obama dissimulates about his former take on Israel, and the Palestinians, putting in question his present stance.

13) Obama misrepresents his background, and the context from which he hails, for political purposes, and

14) his books are fraught with lies about himself and who he i.

15) Obama’s campaign deliberately exploits his racial identity, to shield their candidate from regular media grilling.

16) Obama has chosen a deliberate strategy of evasion and vagueness in tackling tough issues. He does not take a stand, and he wont.

17) Obama’s rise to prominence, in Chicago, is fraught with deus ex machine events, and strange circumstances.

18) Why Obama’s record in Chicago, has not received a proper vetting or review by the national media, is puzzling.

19) Obama entered Havard because his father was an Alumnus.

20) It is not clear when changed his name from Barry Soetoro, and why.

21) The Media refuse to ask him questions about all of the above. Why?

22) Obama is a pathological liar, hence so are the media. He is a phony, and the media are complicit in foisting him on the Democratic party.

Obama lies and has lied on numerous occasions. He lacks the honesty and integrity required of a presidential candidate. If we do not act to assure his defeat in the Democratic primary, the Republicans armed with knowledge of Obama’s lies, will crush us in the presidential elections. They will disembowel him before the election gets started."

http://www.stop-obama.org/?p=105

Would some reporter please call the Clintons on their hypocrisy. It takes alot of balls for the campaign that told students in Iowa that they shouldn't participate, that sued in Nevada to block shift workers from participating, that challenged entire precincts in texas to disqualify voters that it is not they but Senator Obama that wants to block people from voting. When will someone ask her about this?

More needs to be said, by god, because someone did everything she could to try to thwart the district and country conventions in Texas last weekend. Every damn dirty Repug trick in the book, from sending out robocalls and emails that purported to be from the Democratic Party and said the convention was cancelled, or moved, to having goon squads at the conventions, holding them up for literally hours double checking credentials that were perfectly fine, filing protests against credentials, and just about the whole Rove "this is how you steal elections" handbook.

As has happened time and time again, this latest tactic will backfire. Rather than turning undecideds against Obama, it will merely remind people WHY so many supers are flocking to Obama and are now urging Hillary to at least think about getting out.

It's having a big impact already. Obama has gotten a net increase of 23 super delegates since March 1, compared to Hillary's 6. The last time a super delegate endorsed her was on March 19, about 2 weeks ago. Obama has added 6 since then.

Hey, Hillary. Here's a hint for you. If you want to rally Democratic Party insiders, DO NOT DO ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:

- Endorse John McCain over your Democratic rival.

- Put your hubby on Rush Limbaugh's show on the day of the TX primary.

- Be filmed playing footsie with Richard Mellon Scaif, the man who accused you of murdering Vince Foster.

- Make your case by sending out copies of an article from the American Spectator.

- Send Ed Rendell to Faux News and have him state that they have the fairest primary coverage.

Just more examples of Hillary's bad judgment.

While either candidate would be better than anything Republican Hillary and Bill need to pack it in. They are acting selfishly and not in the best interests of this country. Michigan and Florida decided to piss their votes down their leg. The only people interested in a do over are the Clintons. Hillary, you lost and you have no right to claim foul now. You are behaving as if it was your destiny to be the next president. In case you haven't figured it out we are sick of Washington's "business as usual" and you are one of the prime examples. You are not entitled to anything. These are not offices for life. We don't want more of the same. Seeing the folks on the podium with you in Iowa after your defeat was scary. The same old Washington playerz.

I truly hope some member of the press calls her on this lie or, at the very least, asks her to name precisely when Obama made this statement. The truth is, he hasn't.

Hillary: "I, on the other hand, will happily lie to you that your vote actually means something."

How is that less of an insult to voters?

Come on people...

You know you can't spell Hillary without L-I-A-R!!

This shows, yet again, that Hillaryland lacks the character our country needs to follow the GW Bush presidency.

She's also comparing herself to Rocky Balboa, "a fighter who didn't quit" or some such nonsense.

As Randi Rhodes just pointed out, Rocky lost the big fight in the original film.

October 11, 2007

Flashback: Does Michigan Matter to Clinton?

Hillary Clinton, during which she was asked about the Michigan primary:

"I personally did not think it made any difference, whether or not my name was on the ballot. You know, it's clear, in this election they're

having, it is not going to count for anything."

http://www.youtube.com/user/MDRUDGE

Nafta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BrPZYbCdJ4

Hahahahaha Hillary says Obama wants her to quit? Didn't she think that he'd be quitting by Super Tuesday. What a joke and transparent loser this woman is becoming.

How about comparing herself to Rocky Balboa? I'll run with that....

Rocky Balboa did run up the museum steps, and didn't quit - but if you've ever been to the spot, its about 10 steps, not the massive staircase in the movie. Deceptive filming, just like Hillary's deceptive campaign.

True, Rocky Balboa never quit, but he also lost...split decision to Apollo Creed. He didn't win, so I guess she's finally admitting defeat with the Rocky comparison?

Once again the ever intelligent Mrs. Clinton steps in a pile of her own crap. Unbelievable...

If Clinton can't win, why are you ObamaDupeees so frantic?

Let the race run until the supers gut-up and endorse Obama.(Don't think they will or have the guts to do their job),they want HRC to take them off the hook by tossing in the towel. Nancy P. is now waffling and Harry R. doesn't want to get involved, and Howard D's ass is hanging out.

A number of the ones who have gone against popular vote and endorsed BHO, claims their kids talked them into it. Kinda like the story about a church deacon who claimed he found his winning lottery ticket in a parking lot.

The fact that Clinton's best case for the nomination is a flimsy case against Obama is very telling and very sad at the same time.

She's lost toughness, experience, and independent appeal. Obama is eating into her base every day. She needs to have strengths, not just point out his potential weaknesses.

Plus, every time they mention 527s using Wright, I picture swiftboating ads with her voice and the Tuzla images. Running against McCain, that's suicide right there. They already hate her, so that would be all the Repugs need to to do make sure every republican out there goes and votes against her. I'm sure the superdelegates see the writing on the wall as well.

Hillary's lying is the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks for the link election08. Priceless.