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Hillary's Big Fundraiser Tonight Starring Elton John Will Bring In $2.5 Million

Hillary's big and very high-profile fundraiser tonight -- which will feature a performance by Elton John at Radio City -- will bring in $2.5 million, Hillary finance chair Hassan Nemazee confirms to me.

The number vastly exceeds some expectations -- an AP story last week, for instance, predicted that the event was "expected to bring in more than $1.5 million," which is nearly a million dollars short of the actual tally.

Nemazee tells me that the event, which will draw 6,000 people, has sold out. "We are in our fifteen month of fundraising, and to do two and a half million is extraordinary," Nemazee says, not without some justification.

Now, none of this changes the fact that Obama, who continues to break records with his astonishingly successful fundraising, will badly outspend Hillary in the remaining states. He is outspending Hillary three-to-one in Pennsylvania right now, for instance.

But Hillary's fundraising numbers, though lower than Obama's, would appear to demonstrate that many of her donors haven't given up on this race yet.

Nemazee confirms, for instance, that an event in Los Angeles last week brought in a couple hundred thousand dollars, and adds that he's secured $50,000 in commitments for another fundraiser in Pittsburgh starring Chelsea Clinton, and another couple hundred thousand dollars in commitments for an event in Houston on the 24th.


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I never did like Elton John's music.

Brilliant Satire Greg!

OMG!! Hillary's raising almost $2.5 million!!! Call the firetrucks she is hot, hot, hot!!!!

Obama can raise that much by clearing his throat in public.

Seriously, I don't buy the notion that you guys are biased or in the bag for one camp or another, but don't posts like this make you feel just a little bit ridiculous?

That's nice. How much would've been raised if it wasn't Elton John?

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She sure isn't going anywhere any time soon - that's obvious. She must believe she can still win this.

I suppose she could if she could pull off wins in the remaining states that are significant enough to cause the SDs to decide to support her.

I am not counting anything out. Every time I do - and I thought it was probably over at least 3 times before now - she comes back.

If sheer tenaciousness can win this - she's got that by the boatload.


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I never did like Elton John's music.

Me neither. And less as times goes by.

Obama farts $2.5 mil.

Now that I think of it, I think I'll send him another $50 during Elton's show.

I guess this gets pretty much neutralized with the $1 million in a minute planned by Obama supporters some time n the next couple of weeks.

The constant question is how much of this money is for now and how much for the general? And--if you have 6000 participants and $2.5 million those are some pretty big sized donations. How do the numbers work or am I being thick?

My math (which should not be mistaken for real math) says around $416.66 per person, give or take a few cents here and there.

I'd like to see the breakdown of that $2.5 mil between primary and general, as well.

I pity those donors sitting through "Candle in the Wind" recycled for the third blond in the past three decades. Eh, serves them right.

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Princess Di had "FP experience" from visiting a lot of countries too, though not under "sniper fire" the was Hillary was.

His songwriter/lyricist is good. Probably an Obama guy.

One charming idiosyncracy of our campaign finance system is the absence of any limits on in kind contributions like this -- Dave Matthews or Elton John can donate performances that would cost hundreds of thousands. Not sure there's anything wrong with it, but it is odd.

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In fact, I just got a mental picture of all those Hillary supporters "rocking out" to Elton.

I so wish that hadn't jumped into my head - does anyone have any brain bleach handy?

Elton John? Really? Is it a good thing or bad thing when your campaign strategy is being cribbed from the plot of a South Park episode?

Hillary-Aid!

I wonder how many people attending are Mark Penn's clients from Burson-Marstellar, and how many are lobbying for passage of the Colombian Free Trade Agreement?

Speaking of "Candle in the Wind" -- that's Hillary's campaign, about to blow out.

Why Elton John? Why not someone from this century? I'm guessing that EJ has a lot of appeal to the blue hair crowd (Clinton's reliable demographic).

Wayne Newton wasn't available on such short notice.

Oh, this one is burning inside, too... can't... stop... myself...

Maybe he'll do "The Bitch is Back."

Sing along:

I was justified when I was five

Raising cane, I spit in your eye

Times are changing, now the poor get fat

But the fever's gonna catch you when the bitch gets back

Eat meat on Friday that's alright

Even like steak on a Saturday night

I can bitch the best at your social do's

I get high in the evening sniffing pots of glue

I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch

Oh the bitch is back

Stone cold sober as a matter of fact

I can bitch, I can bitch

`Cause I'm better than you

It's the way that I move

The things that I do

I entertain by picking brains

Sell my soul by dropping names

I don't like those, my God, what's that

Oh it's full of nasty habits when the bitch gets back

Oops, that wasn't supposed to be a reply.

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I understand that some maxed out Hillary folks are plugging more money in by doing so in the names of others who reciprocate by verbally 'owing' that donation back........er, someday.

DonnaG, you don't say what the basis for your "understanding" is, but making campaign donations through a third party in order to get around individual donor limits is illegal.

So if you have real information about this practice please report it. If on the other hand you're just making baseless insinuations here, with all due respect, please shut up.

" . . . how mis-er-able life is, while you're in the race . . ."

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Hillary-Aid!


I may die laughing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Goodbye Yellow Brick Road?

Candle in the Wind?

Philadelphia Freedom?

Elton John's last single: "The Bridge" was one of the single worst songs I have ever heard in my life.


He's old, his songs don't stand up (unless you're too into Cameron Crowe movies), and he'll do anything to be on TV, especially Larry King, his peer in age and eyeglass preference.

I bet he plays "Hillary 4u and me."

"eyeglass preference"

Speaking of which, Sir Elton doesn't need glasses anymore -- he had laser surgery. They're only for show, which is some ways is a nice metaphor for the Hillary campaign.

Has Yo-Yo Ma endorsed anyone? How about Gil Shaham? Or any of the Squirrel Nut Zippers? Those are the fundraisers that I want to attend (although I am embarrassed to admit that last one in polite company). I would actually pay money not to have to attend Elton John's fundraiser concert.

Of course, I believe that I heard the great Rene Flemming claim that she was backing Clinton, and I admit that I would attend that fundraiser, even if I am a dyed-in-the-wool Obamabot.

Er, naturally I meant "Renée Fleming," not "Rene Flemming."

Ok, but if you're gonna go highbrow, you should let the misspelling ride.

So long as Ms Fleming sticks to German. She murders the French language.

Ah, Greg, no need to be embarrassed! I'd go see Andrew Bird anytime.

Hold me closer, Tiny Monster...

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Two thoughts:

1) Can Elton John even vote in America?

2) If there's one thing steelworkers and the blue collar folks of the rustbelt in Pennsylvania love, its the music of Elton John.

Almost as much as the love the campaign theme "You and I" by Celine Dion.

He did headline Harley-Davidson's 100th Birthday Party.

::sigh::

I have to say, with the crazy numbers bouncing around in the Dem primary this year, I no longer have a sense of how to judge these kind of events.

Is $2.5 million a good haul? Well, it is 10 percent of what Hillary brought in last month, but I understand most of that was on the web. This event costs a great deal more to set up - renting Radio City, publicity, selling (or giving away) the tickets and so on. Is that even a very good use of resources? (If the $2.5 million is net and not gross, let me know. I've obviously never run a large scale fundraiser like this before.) But I remember stories from 2004 about how the Bush machine was so efficient because they would rent these basic halls and serve hot dogs for $1,000 a plate to make sure they pocketed most of their take.

I guess there's a PR benefit, though I'm not sure how spending the evening in New York with a flamboyantly gay British pop singer will pay with the blue-collar, work-pail crowd that is supposed to be Hillary's base in PA.

I guess the upshot for me is - this seems to be a lot of work and hullabaloo over an event that represents one percent of Hillary's overall take and less than half a percent of the total raised by both Democrats so far.

Greg:

Perhaps you can ask them how much of the money is earmarked as primary vs. GE dollars (something they should be able to say pretty much immediately)?

WASTEOFMONEYAID

Funny that Obama has a free concert for supports and Hillary has to charge.

One other point, if Hillary is doing so well financially why isn't she paying her bills? I read that a college in CA is threatening to turn her over to a collection agency. That should be a clear sign to voters that she isn't ready or a good enough manager to be President.

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Has Yo-Yo Ma endorsed anyone? How about Gil Shaham? Or any of the Squirrel Nut Zippers?

stop stop - I can't breathe. LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!

Well you know, Fiddy was for Clinton at first. Except he wasn't real clear on whether or not he was voting.

Just rap, Fiddy. You are very good at that - stay out of politics.

Well if the Zippers were to endorse Hillary that might shake my commitiment.

But really shouldn't the question be who George Clinton is endorsing?

Two years after I graduated, Pres. Clinton came to my old high-school. My younger brother was a senior then and played in the band. All of his band friends were really excited when they heard that Clinton was coming to their school, but their excitement deflated when they learned that it was Bill Clinton, not George Clinton. I thought that was really funny.

Two years after I graduated, Pres. Clinton came to my old high-school. My younger brother was a senior then and played in the band. All of his band friends were really excited when they heard that Clinton was coming to their school, but their excitement deflated when they learned that it was Bill Clinton, not George Clinton. I thought that was really funny.

Well given the choice between watching Bill on sax or Bootsy on bass... I know where'd I'd be that night.

Bootsy and Hillary share the same birthday (as do I), albeit different years.

See life is stranger than fiction (at least it is in the case of Hillary and Bootsy).

: )

Yea....never liked Elton John. Nope. Definitely not. Definitely. Definitely not Elton John.

/Obama Rain Man

Oh good. Now she can start paying back all of those schools and small vendors who are still unpaid.

I suspect Black Eyed Peas brought even more money to Obama when the campaign sent out their video and asked people to donate. By the way, we should all donate today to Obama to offset the Elton Pink Blinders.

No, really, how does a 6000-person event raise $2.5mil? Are some seats reserved for bundlers who have already raised certain amounts? If so, then can you really call that "new" fundraising? And if not, then that's ~$4k a seat, almost half of which by definition can only be for general election use.

Either way, could we see some more scrutiny of how this math works?

I think you left off a zero--it's more like $400 a seat ($416.67, to be precise).

well, the "cheap seats" are $125... then there are $500 seats all of which sold out almost immediately... the remainder of the seats were either $1000 or $2300... of course, i don't know the breakdown of how many seats at each price, but does it really matter? $2.5 million is still enough to get a whole bunch of ads up (and it's certainly worth a couple hours of time for HRC, WJC, and chelsea who will all be attending.)

why am i not surprised to see how much most of you "hate" EJ? has anyone realized that he's raising money for a democrat? you guys act like he's doing something immoral...

TPM has almost completely driven out all of the Hillary supporters i see. let's hope that Obama doesn't do the same thing... (and yes, i will be voting for Obama in November if that's my choice, so no false accusations, please...)

For the record, dear Kensdad, my criticism of Elton John on this thread has nothing whatever to do with his fundraising for Sen Clinton. I agree with you that celebrities raising money for democratic candidates is a good thing. That said, I have never liked Elton John's music and cannot bring myself to pretend otherwise just for the sake of intra-party politesse.

Greg, i knew you were being sincere... sadly, most people don't even know who Gil Shaham is! i happen to have met him once, and even worked (briefly) for the violinist Vadim Repin.

Apparently Gil has the same problem as Joshua Bell, who went unrecognized while he played as a street performer in the DC Metro.

Personally, I'd give a LOT of money to see Audra McDonald sing....

hop a flight to charlotte, schmedley:

http://www.charlottesymphony.org/specials.htm

Wish I could, but...

Thanks! I saw Gil Shaham a couple of years ago at Tanglewood. Great concert with the BSO and Vivaldi!

You're saying there isn't the slightest bit of irony or humor in the fact that it's Elton John performing for Hillary? This isn't particularly political from my perpsective, it's mostly pop-culture.

I wonder if Fleetwood Mac was unavailable...

Never liked EJ. Bootsy Collins, OTOH....

"I'm still standing,yeah,yeah,yeah."

Nice work Elton.

Up-side down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hey Greg, why don't you ask the Clinton campaign how much of the $20 mill raised in March is earmarked for the general election? A qualitative answer won't cut it.

She truly is like "A Candle In the Wind."

(I know I'm the fourth to make that reference here, but dammit, it was burning inside me and had to get out.)

I was justified when I was five
Raising cane, I spit in your eye
Times are changing, now the poor get fat
But the fever's gonna catch you when the bitch gets back

Eat meat on Friday that's alright
Even like steak on a Saturday night
I can bitch the best at your social do's
I get high in the evening sniffing pots of glue

I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch
Oh the bitch is back
Stone cold sober as a matter of fact
I can bitch, I can bitch
`Cause I'm better than you
It's the way that I move
The things that I do

I entertain by picking brains
Sell my soul by dropping names
I don't like those, my God, what's that
Oh it's full of nasty habits when the bitch gets back

Dammit! You beat me to it!

As Charles Gibson of ABC News said last week when it was announced that Hillary had raised $20 million (I think) in March, "Normally a candidate who had raised $20 million in one month would be rejoicing. It's just that Obama has raised more."

No, we haven't given up on Hillary "yet", as you put it. We think she is the better candidate, and many of us fear that Obama will not beat McCain. So we're not going to give up.

Dearest Otto:

Obama will have a much better chance against McCain than HRC. I live in red-neck white boy country and they will all vote McCain, but they like Obama much more than HRC. As for her being the better candidate, if you cannot run a campaign, how can you run the nation? She is a mess.

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I suspect Black Eyed Peas brought even more money to Obama when the campaign sent out their video and asked people to donate. By the way, we should all donate today to Obama to offset the Elton Pink Blinders.

Dayum, wish they'd sent me one!

$1 Million in a Minute!
http://anobamaminute.com/

Yes we can!

You know what Obama would have to do to raise $2.5 million in a night? Run for President.

The thing is, how much money is left in an event like that when you substract the expenses? Renting the place, EJ may play for free, but the rest of the musicians have to be paid. And sound, etc.

and that's an important question that Greg should have asked.

It seems to me
You ran your campaign
Like a candle in the wind
Never knowing who to turn to
When the spin set in
And I would have liked to've voted for you
But I am just a Brit
And your campaign burned out long before
Your ambition ever did...

LOL

Just say Nobama!

I used to be a rolling stone
You know if the cause was right
I'd leave to find the answer on the road
I used to be a heart beating for someone
But the times have changed
The less I say the more my work gets done

Cause I live and breathe this Philadelphia freedom
From the day that I was born I've waved the flag
Philadelphia freedom took me knee-high to a man
Yeah gave me a peace of mind my daddy never had

Oh Philadelphia freedom shine on me, I love you
Shine a light through the eyes of the ones left behind
Shine a light shine a light
Shine a light won't you shine a light
Philadelphia freedom I love you, yes I do

If you choose to you can live your life alone
Some people choose the city
Some others choose the good old family home
I like living easy without family ties
Till the whippoorwill of freedom zapped me
Right between the eyes

How much of this is not new money? I suspect that much of it was donated in March and already counted as part of her 20 mill from last month.

Well its obvious by your choice of candidates, you have no taste!

LOL

Isn't this a violation of election law?

Elton John is not a US citizen. I don't think he is allowed to raise money for her.

Good to see that "laws" don't apply to people like Hillary, McCain and Bush.

Welcome to Banana Republic USA.


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Isn't most of that money already counted?

Congrats to HRC on the successful Elton John fundraiser. But it's being reported like this is new money. Her campaign has been selling tickets to this thing for weeks (tickets went on sale 3/19 http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=6565). So isn't it likely that most or at least a large portion of that $2.5 million was collected last month and already included in the undersized $20 million she raised last month?

The real question on fundraising is the trend. We know she was doing really well in early March, repeatedly raising $1 million a day, and we know that she only raised $20 million for the month ("almost all" for the primary, though not "all"). That suggests the pace slowed considerably toward the end of the month. The question, it seems to me, is how much of the $2.5 million EJ fundraiser is new money?

Oh, man, that's an excellent point that was overlooked.

Too much begrudging on this thread. There is nothing wrong with Senator Clinton raising some funds from a concert. Let us not become too petty folks.

Wow. Such petty sniping by your disgusting obama people. If Elton were supporting your snot nosed guy, you'd all be falling all over yourselves singing his praises.

Elton knows a winner and a great person when he sees one like he worshiped Princess Diana. He loves Hillary as do her supporters.

She will win in the end and your upstart, fake hate-speech, racist, anti-american, "For the first time in my life i'm proud to be an american" loving candidate will be yesterday's news and he'll join the ranks of the other losers who are supporting him: Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Dobb, Richardson, etc.

LOL. Obama stopped the voting in Michigan and thwarted it in Fla. but in spite of blocking the voting in those important states, he'll still LOSE.

We love you Elton and we love you Hillary!


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Too much begrudging on this thread

sure she is, and I'm just as entitled to make fun of it.

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That didn't come out right -

She's entitled to hold a fundraiser with Elton John. And I'm just entitled to make fun of it.

Hmmm ...CANDLE IN THE WIND!

At least Hillary is getting her money from grown-ups. Obama is milking young people and poor people for money they don't have. I wonder how much interest is racking up on credit cards in support of his campaign? It's not real money, just charge away...

He made me give up my lunch money! The BULLY!

I thought Obama supporters were rich latte drinkers...

I love the Hillary supporters who try to pretend that Obama is anti-democratic due to the goings on in Michigan and Florida...

3 POINTS

1) The RULES were put in place by the DNC last year and both HRC and Obama signed off on them (at the time).

2) Therefore it is not Obama who is stopping the vote it is the DNC's pre-established rules.

and....wait for it...

3) HRC's WHOLE (current) STRATEGY FOR WINNING THE PRIMARY , as stated by her campaign, IS TO OVERTURN THE POPULAR VOTE IN DENVER - pretty democratic eh?

....it seems HRC's supporters are as obsessed with fiction as she is..

jwr42, it is not still up for debate that Obama did everything he possibly could to block the Michigan vote, and Florida obviously should count as is as only the limp wristed one cheated by airing national ads that ran in Florida.
One Obama supporter responding by calling Hillary a F*cking Wh*re while the rest of you Obama supporters Cheer does not make it not so.
So just say Nobama.

Casting aside an option to re-vote in Michigan and proposing instead a 50/50 split is actually vote stealing. How, tell me, is that Democratic?

I love how Obama supporters prefer party rules over the enfranchisement of voters. Would you feel the same way were the roles reversed? Doubtful.

What the heck does this have to do with Elton John's fundraiser for Clinton?

Petty and shocking, you people and your opinions!

This is a dangerous area where choice in candidates and choice in music meet. Doubly inflamed!

I really can't stand Elton John.

I also don't really like the Black-Eyed Peas. And that video for Obama was really too much of something.

One of my fave bands, The Ramones, had a lefty Dem for a lead singer and a right-wing Republican for a guitarist.

At least Hillary didn't go for Streisand. YESH! GACK! RALPH!

I think I might get a little misty when Elton sings: "And it seems to me you lived your life
Like a candle in the wind
Never knowing who to cling to
When the rain set in."

Not a dry eye in the house. Perhaps he can change the lyrics to reflect Sen. Clinton's campaign. Something like: "Your campaign burned out long before, Your legend ever did."

Bravo, Bravo!

Once again I'm underwhelmed by the level of the conversation and overwhelmed by the irrational Hillary hating and name calling that seems to dominate this online community.

For the record, I suspect Senator Clinton does, in fact, think she has a chance to win this. So, too, do I...along with the other 50% of Democrats who are voting for her and donating to her campaign. Her chances of securing the nomination are obviously slim, but I still hold out hope that voters and the super delegates will make the strategic decision to choose the strongest and most experienced candidate to represent our party. (Um, no, that's not Senator Obama. For all his shining qualities and achievements, he pales in comparison to Senator Clinton.)

I'm happy to be attending Elton John's concert this evening. At least the singer is doing something productive with his time. The kind of banter taking place on these blogs is counterproductive and is actually damaging to the Democratic party.

If money is the end all/be all sign of a viable candidacy, than surely Obama will win Pennsylvania by 3:1, right?

Once again I'm underwhelmed by the level of the conversation and overwhelmed by the irrational Hillary hating and name calling that seems to dominate this online community.

Wow, this is kind of like the trifecta of Shark-Jumping. Hillary's camapaign is having Sir Elton John do fund raiser for her and you're complaining that were not having a policy discussion on the thread reporting on the fundraiser.

I think you just knocked the irony meter out of the park; anything that travels that far should have a stewardess on it.

I'm not suggesting a policy debate, but a discussion of fundraising tactics and rewards would be more interesting than the snarkfest. At any rate, do have fun attacking others. I have to get some work done.

Here's a serious comment.

Clinton is relying on stale old-school style fundraisers to bag a million here, a million there. And by stale, I'm not just talking about the selection of Sir Elton. She's failed to do what Obama has done, energize many more people who might not be able to afford $600 tickets, but who will throw down $25 here and there.

This is the way the Democratic Party has to go, with the support of the real "regular people," and not just relying on the high-rollers and the wealthy seniors who love the old adult contemporary and lite rock hits.

Clinton is a hold-over of the old days. The wealthy, the lobbiests, the corporations who give the limits, can't be in control of the show anymore. They hold the Party back.

Elton John?

She should be able to bag another half a mil on Metamucil and Dentu-Creme concessions.

I do hope Sen. CLinton will now be paying off bills from charities, small vendors outstanding since JANYARY! U Davis announced it will send it's claim to a collection agency unlees they pay up ASAP> The champion of the little guy chages TWENTY THOUSAND $ TO THE CAMPAIGN for 3 nights in Vegas (15K for the Bellagio and 5K for the Four Seasons - see Feb. fen. statement) I don't care what they do, but think they should pay for these extraordinary charges themselves (plus, they can afford it, too) - and we thought a $400.00 haircut was bad!

okay, gotta be honest... i'm 46 and a huge fan of elton and bernie taupin... been to see him over 50 times, the last time at his birthday at MSG last year... so go ahead, say what you will.

but when this concert was announced, i thought about getting tickets... and i realized i couldn't.

i'm supporting barack obama... and until the nomination is set in stone (god help us), i'm only sending money to the obama campaign... i took the money i would have used for a cheap seat to this show and sent it to barack.

so it's gonna be rough tomorrow, seeing the news coverage of the show... but i know i'm doing the right thing.

NYCDem1111

I agree that if Hillary wins the popular vote she should get the nomination.

However, HRC is yet unwilling to state that she will gracefully bow out if she is behind in popular vote and delegates come Denver. Instead, her campaign is now discussing general electorate math as a justification for the nomination.

Regarding the argument that superdelegates are somehow sages, I have two responses:

1) Last I checked our government is supposed to be based on democratic not oligarchic principles

2) Superdelegates are professional politicians and party activists....based on approval ratings for congress it is hard to argue that the American public views these people as some bastion of wisdom.

Also, please list a source for that 50% of democrats you reference...seems like fuzzy math to me.

Also, your last statement is laughable...not sure you understand how elections and campaigns work....talk about underwhelming...

CORRECTION - meant to say that if HRC earns that most delegates and the popular vote she should win the nod, if they split things WILL get complicated

I leave it to Senator Clinton to decide when she'd like to abandon her effort or if she'd like to take this to Denver. It's her right and she's simply playing out the nomination process that our party created. (For those who love "rules" so much over voter rights, you should understand this.) Bullying her into prematurely dropping out will only cast a pall over Obama's nomination. He's tough enough to see this through to completion. If not, he shouldn't be our nominee.

Should Senator Clinton win the popular vote (including Florida and Michigan, re-vote or not), I think she has a strong and fair case to make that she would be a legitimate nominee. I'm the first to say how unfair it felt, in the general election, for Al Gore to win the popular vote and lose the presidency. Luckily, we have an extra step in our nomination process to help us prevent that sort of disaster from happening again.

I also think Senator Obama has a problem if -- after outspending Clinton 3 to 1 in advertisements -- he doesn't win PA. It not only keeps the door ajar for Clinton, it leaves the door wide open for McCain. Like it or not, we need Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and Michigan in November. You can call my math fuzzy, but if we lose those delegate-rich states, we'll have a hard time winning the presidency.

And with respect to Obama's online fundraising prowess, I commend him. It does not mean in contrast, however, that Senator Clinton is corrupt and gets all her money from corporate insiders. Those who most rely on government and need solutions more than ideals (women, the elderly, and those earning less than 50k annually) are her stronghold voters. Senator Clinton is actually the more progressive and reliable of the two candidates.

I take back the harsh things I might have said about Elton. I put myself in your place and think, what if it were a Captain Beefheart comeback? And I feel your pain (half thumb up, bite lip).

Really, music and politics should be kept separate, just like religion and politics.

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that's okay... i've accepted for a long time that elton isn't considered the coolest act on the planet, so nothing that anyone's said here surprised me... but i love the songs, and have done some fundraising for the ol' boy's AIDS foundation... what can i say?

but i'll put out some good energy for a captain braveheart reunion for you, because you've been so nice. :)

oh damn... i shouldn't be trying to post at work.

i meant "captain beefheart", not "braveheart".

my apologies.

Can anyone tell me if this is LEGAL?

Elton John is British. I thought FEC rules say that foreigners can't donate and also can't raise funds.

Seems like this is illegal.

how pathetic can you get?

rae,
actually, it's not pathetic... it's been a question since the concert was announced... the FECA "prohibits any foreign national from contributing, donating or spending funds in connection with any federal, state, or local election in the United States, either directly or indirectly. It is also unlawful to help foreign nationals violate that ban or to solicit, receive or accept contributions or donations from them. Persons who knowingly and willfully engage in these activities may be subject to fines and/or imprisonment."

however, because elton supposedly isn't being compensated for this, it's not illegal.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20080327/NATION02/615066787

you've said some pretty nasty things about barack obama yourself, so i see you as being no better than the obama supporters you hate so much when it comes to "sniping".

that said... if it comes down to obama vs. mccain, are you willing to put our differences aside and vote for obama since he's lightyears better than mccain?

if clinton gets the nomination instead of obama, i'll vote for her... despite the things i don't like about her, she's still better than mccain.

Thanks for the clarification.

According to the way the law is written, fudnraising is illegal. But the FEC let's it slide.

Seems like a major loophole since campaigns are not about paying people for support, but rather people donating their money and support to candidates, and that's the crux of the laws and limits.

Ya know, I love the reporting the TPM does but when it comes to the endless snitting here on a regular basis, it just makes me read the stories and hardly ever read the comments by people.

The commentary is just high school hallway chatter and not good high school chatter at that.

Elton John's demographic is vast. Look at the crowds at his shows and you see the same 5-90 crowds that acts like the Stones, McCartney draw. Happens. Honest. He's been one of the biggest concert draws for the past 40 years. No surprise why HC wants a fundraiser with him. He is likely doing this as a payback to Mr. Bill for the work Mr. Bill (some of it with Mr. John's foundation) has done to try to stem AIDS in Africa. Important work no matter what we think of Mr. Bill--and I tend to think little of him otherwise.

Both Hillary and Obama are not so very different from each other. Both are the power mad variety who populate the scene in this dark time. They are, however, infinitely better than what the folks with the elephant are foisting this year. No surprise there. So vote for one of them when the time comes (vote multiple times if you can) and maybe get out of the house more. Do something. Plenty of good that needs doing out there that doesn't involve typing.

Oh, and to the illegality.

You are right about foreign nationals, but it's likely that it's okay if there's no compensation involved.

Elton John has written some wonderful music. Have seen him live and the show was terrific. Wonder how many of those people making catty and mean spirited comments on him and his music would say otherwise if he was doing a fund raiser for Obama.

"You are right about foreign nationals, but it's likely that it's okay if there's no compensation involved."

That doesn't sound quite right.

I get the impression that if someone is rich and powerful enough, they can pretty much do what they please, law or no law.


Elton fans, quit blubbering.

It's not like anyone's called him "Judas" or anything.

Rock out, NYCDem.

Any guesses on the average age of tonight's attendees?

I dunno, Colin2. But let me guess, you think the youth are fundamentally cooler (or just more worthy) than the middle-aged crowd?

At any rate (though I am fairly young), I do believe the average age will be older than that of an Obama rally. But then, with age comes wisdom.

I'm middle-aged myself and have waved coolness goodbye ... and I'm not gonna try to pull the wisdom thing.

But from the viewpoint of simple politics, BHO has shown the ability to turn out the youth vote, and that may help not only with his victory in November but across the ballot.

That is a crock. A young fool becomes an old fool. With age comes decline.

You'll join us soon enough.

You got a bright future ahead of you. Next stop: The Grave!

I think these old people are pretty cool.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/08/seniors-who-rock-video_n_95669.html

Seriously, who do you think they will support?

Old age does not have to equal complacency. Old people should be respected, but they should also be encourage to stand up for their beliefs.

Yeah, it's legal and Elton should count as an honorary American anyway. I think a good time will be had by all and who knows, this may supply the emotionsl support HRC fans need to find closure. I really don't want to be too snarky -- the 1970's Elton was a ton of fun, and he's always been a smart musician. Have a good time, y'all.

It may just be the emotional support we need to find closure (all of us hormonal, middle-aged women)...or it may just be the motivation we need to strengthen our resolve and become more active. We'll see. Women and the elderly are notoriously stubborn. ;)

Poor Hillary. Here's what Elton SHOULD sing to her tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cAc1mxnCyE

Not that good in the first place. Now easy to be rid of with the simple use of the delete key.

Bye bye, Yellow thick man.

One thing I'll give Obama is that if they ever lower the voting age to 13, he'll be virtually unstoppable.

Oh, if only they would have raised the primary voting age it to 65, this thing would have been over by Feb 4, as it should have been, right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xiiwWQSy8Q

The Only 3 am Call Hillary's Gonna Get...


"If she doesn't pay her bill ($5500) from UC Davis by mid May, the university will send the account to a bill collector and the only call she'll be getting at 3 am is from a guy named Bob"
Keith Olbermann

Politico reports that Lanny Davis and Frank Luntz were at the show!!! . . . !!!

The Page: "Campaign says more than 5,000 attend; guests served some sort of blue illuminated drinks."

Tell us how they tasted when y'all get back tonight.

playlist (not making this up):

“Your Song”

“Border Song”

“Ballad of the Boys in the Red Shoes”

“Daniel”

“Honkey Cat”

“Rocket Man”

“Tiny Dancer”

“Philadelphia Freedom”

“Ticking”

“Sorry Seems to Be the Hardest Word”

“Candle in the Wind”

“I Guess That’s Why They Call It the Blues” (alternate version)

“Levon”

http://thepage.time.com/elton-john-radio-city-playlist-and-political-targets-at-clinton-fundraiser/

Ummmm...$2.5 million, and they call this overstated???

Now, correct me if I am wrong.

This is an Elton John concert, not a speech or gathering for Hillary.

This event is not political in nature, but it is agreed that the proceeds will go to her campaign.

She has a paltry fundraising month, and she is losing credibility with every statement she makes.

And somehow, THIS concert is going to show people she can run the country, how???

It was a fantastic concert.

The audience were all on their feet chanting: Tuzla, Tuzla, Tuzla,

as Elton sang:

And you fibbed your lies like a candle in the wind.

$2.5 million and 6000 attendees for an average price per ticket being $416. Not having been to a concert before, are concert tickets usually that much? These 6000 sure have some easy money laying around. Also, does the concert donate the money to the campaign or do the individual users donate the money to the campaign?


Elton at SF Free Tibet Rally today.

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