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Hillary-Backing Group Launches Ad Ripping Obama On Health Care

In case you needed further evidence that the Clinton forces think they have to go all-out against Barack Obama in order to rack up a significant victory, the American Leadership Project -- the 527 group set up by Hillary donors and big unions to finance pro-Hillary ads -- has a new spot up in Pennsylvania ripping Obama on health care:

The group is planning to spend $250,000 on the ad across several media markets. This is on top of Hillary's own ad campaign, which we've shown to be 100% negative at this point in most of the state.


Comments (82)

Well, maybe they could launch an ad about Clinton's attitude in 1995 about working class whites:

Screw em'

Will this do for now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exsmFDYyK4U

Who'd believe her at this point, about anything?

Money quote from Senator Clinton from that clip: "The voters are tired of people lying to them".

Liked the background music, too.

Great clip!

JedReport.com produced this vid. They have a whole slew of them and they are just great.
http://www.youtube.com/user/jedreport

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The reviews are in.

"Excellent misadventure of the mistakenly misspoken"

"4 Sniper Shots"

"An instant classic. Pinocchio would be proud."

"I laughed. I cried. I got a sandwich. A little soda. And oh yea, a breath mint"

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/hillary-clinton-on-workin_n_97017.html
Hillary Clinton On Southern Working Class Whites In 1995: “Screw ‘Em”

The funniest part of that Huffington Post piece was this, at the end:

The Clinton campaign did not immediately return a request for comment.

Really?

Wolfson probably answered the phone and pretended to be the answering machine.

Hey, c'mon, they were "just words" back in 95. :)

Is it just me or is $250,000 a small amount considering the stakes are so high in Pennsylvania?

$250,000 is the equivalent of the proverbial drop in the bucket... you are right.

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When they call the Obama campaign, they'd be surprised to find out that the Clinton campaign is lying about Obama's health care plan.

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More lies and distortions from Hillary, did we really expect anything more?

$250,000? So they will get one ad played during Wheel of Fortune?

It's enough to write "HILLARY '08" in the middle of Heinz Field with herbicide.

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NAFTA and Columbia Trade agreements:

Hillary is trying to distract people from hearing about how she still has Mark Penn on her payroll, and that Bill Clinton has been paid $800K from pro Columbia Trade deal agents.

Hillary is the Bride of Unfair Trade Deals.

Or trying to obscure the fact that she will do nothing to lower insurance costs. The citizens will get stuck paying, whether they can afford it or not. She has taken more money from insurance lobbyists than any candidate. Where do you think her loyalties lie? She will not enforce any restrictions on them, but will penalize citizens. The companies are just drooling to rake in the profits while the citizens have no choice but to comply. Now that is power over the citizenry, folks. At least we know Obama will hold insurance companies feet to the fire to lower premiums since he is not in their pocket.

Hillary Clinton seriously thinks we are all stupid. She can pee all over her supporters and tell them its a rainstorm. They all break into a Gene Kelly dance routine.

Hillary needs to create single payer non profit health care paid for by taxes, sliding scale by income. It is the only plan that would be better than Obama's. If not then she should STFU about healthcare.

Another great vid by JedReport, creator of the other vid posted earlier in this thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_mcgO3Iva0

Hmmmm. It's been mentioned earlier, but I think going negative (even when it's not her campaign doing it) hurts Hillary. The health care thing has been flogged to death, so I don't think it's going to change too many people's minds. And the whole "scary guy with deep voice" thing just screams "HEY THIS IS A NEGATIVE AD." And, again, going negative has been a consistently bad tactic for Hillary throughout this process.

I'm beginning to think the Clintons aren't the brilliant strategists we all thought they were.

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When Clinton and allies are done with these relentless attacks, can we all agree that Obama has met the test?

It's going to be hard for Senator Clinton to argue that he's not "tested" when she seems to spend the better part of each day launching attacks.

I thought this 527 was established to be "pro Democrat" anyway. Now it's just a surrogate for Clinton?

Hello? Where have you been? Don't you know that the Clintons ARE the Democratic Party?

Mrs. Edwards agrees.

Great ad.

Hey Goatlife, do you ever feel lonely posting on TPM? Wouldn't you be happier at HillaryIs44 where there are other people who share your pollyannish outlook on the Clinton campaign?

I gotta admit, I would feel very abused by the responses I got here if I were you. And yet you keep coming back for more. Why is that?

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Yep, this is pretty much the attitude of many Obama supporters. Agree with me or shut up and go away. Its that unity thing I guess. Just one more reason I won't be voting for him.

I'm not telling him to go away. I just want to know why he's such a glutton for punishment. Frankly, I find his trollish spouting bemusing - I wonder about his psychological make-up.

Hey birdman~ Elizabeth Edwards probably knows a whole hell of a lot more than you about healthcare plans and priorities. So LISTEN! The fact is the Obomb just doesnt want to do the right thing on this one he wants to do the easy thing that Republicans love so much ..... little or nothing.....so answer the damn question about healthcare and stuff the personal snobbery up your colon.

screw you!

with luv, Hillary!

Should read:

Tell Sen. Obama to saddle the first phase of health care reform with the anvil of global mandates, guaranteeing a slow-motion replay of the principal failure of the Clinton administration.

Mandates will be either a) not in any reform bill that a Democratic president signs into law or b) subject to such laughable enforcement / penalties as to make the mandate irrelevant (see a). For whatever reason, the voting public needs the federal government to prove (again!) its capacity to not lay waste to the American health care system with [cue sinister music] socialized medicine. There's pretty compelling polling behind this assertion: people like "universal," but they think that garnishing your wages to get it is a bridge too far.

Obama rightly recognizes that you only get one shot every few years to make a credible case for change. If you blow it, it's gone. If you prove that you can manage a new system with greater efficiency and are sincere in your efforts to address its shortcomings, you can negotiate expansion from a position of strength. Sticking on mandates just gives the opposition a (potent) club to beat you with.

In short, we have to move the ball up the field; otherwise all you're selling is incompetence on top of the fear-mongering from defensive line.

"If he can manage a new system with proficency..."

He's handled his massive campaign qute well while Hillary's is a mess, broke and infighting. She gets a 527 to pay for this add because she's BROKE. The big massive Clinton machine is BROKE?

Read this article from the NYT comparing the two campaigns organization. Who do you trust to reform healtcare?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/opinion/24rich.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

$250,000? LOL!

Slow news day at Deadender Points Memo...

How much of the $250K did they have to pay Ernest Borgnine for doing the speakover?

Will Mermaid Man be endorsing Hiillary?

Is Lt McHale still alive?!?

Yeah, he does the voice for Mermaid Man, the senile, retired superhero on Spongebob Squarepants.

And from the sounds of things, Borgnine's also doing Clinton ads.

Negative ads, oh boy, I need to hit the fainting couch. I've lost the will to live. Good thing Saint Obama never attacks Hillary, or runs negative ads.

Eric, I noticed TPM never reports on the Rezko trial and the new revelations that he was toasting drinks to a Iraqi billionaire swindler wanted in several countries. Heard about any of this yet? Because, well, it could certainly impact him. I would think.

Nahhhhhhh!!!!!

Here's another thing TPM hasn't reported on: Hillary's approach to working class voters in 1995.

"Screw 'em".

Ouch.

Actually, I take that back. A link has appeared on the front page to the Huffington Post piece.

Dude, you might want to check that piece out. It's not pretty.

Perhaps, as a Clinton supporter, you don't want him to report on this. The text below is from Wikipedia's ORIGINAL biography of Nadhmi Auchi which, after the fact that Obama was at a reception where Auchi was present became news last week (oh such BIG NEWS, bigger than covering Petraus), was scrubbed. Yes someone got Bill Clinton's name the hell out there right quick. But not quite quick enough. Below is the pertinent paragraph and a direct quote. No paraphrasing. Total cut and paste job, pre scrub.

"Nadhmi Auchi was viewed with a lot of suspicion by the Iraqi opposition to Saddam Hussein's regime, regarding him as a front-man for Saddam's intelligence service.[4] Auchi was involved in several multi-billion dollar business deals in the post-Saddam era too, such as the Orascom mobile phone network (IraqNa), and at least one power generation contract involving Bill Clinton and Iraq's former Minister of Electricity, Aiham Alsamarrae, who has been convicted over corruption charges in Iraq and is now living in Chicago."

I love how Hillary-Joe has her own attack groups, just like Bush always has.


Yeah, it fits.

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"Call Barack Obama"

So basically, this add wants people to harass him about something that isn't true.

nah..that's just legal stuff so they can claim they "really are" a separate entity from the Clinton campaign..riiiiight.

When Clinton and allies are done with these relentless attacks, can we all agree that Obama has met the test?

It's going to be hard for Senator Clinton to argue that he's not "tested" when she seems to spend the better part of each day launching attacks.

I said something similar yesterday - once she's done, she has nowhere to turn in the electability argument at all. She's destroying her own goddamn argument.

She's totally insane at this point. She's destroying everything - Bill's Legacy, her own objective, any credibility they had left -

It's an 18 car pile up -

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"Call Barack Obama"

So basically, this add wants people to harass him about something that isn't true.

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Oops "add" reads "ad"

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Bruce Springsteen endorses Obama for president


http://brucespringsteen.net/news/index.html

By JOAN LOWY – 1 hour ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Rock star Bruce Springsteen endorsed Democratic Sen. Barack Obama for president Wednesday, saying "he speaks to the America I've envisioned in my music for the past 35 years."

In a letter addressed to friends and fans posted his Web site, Springsteen said he believes Obama is the best candidate to undo "the terrible damage done over the past eight years."

"He has the depth, the reflectiveness, and the resilience to be our next president," the letter said. "He speaks to the America I've envisioned in my music for the past 35 years, a generous nation with a citizenry willing to tackle nuanced and complex problems, a country that's interested in its collective destiny and in the potential of its gathered spirit. A place where '...nobody crowds you, and nobody goes it alone.' "

The bard of New Jersey is known for his lyrics about the struggles of working-class Americans, particularly in the economically ravaged factory towns of the Northeast.

Springsteen and his E Street band were part of the Vote for Change tour, a coalition of musicians opposed to the re-election of President Bush in 2004. He wrote the anti-war ballad "Devils and Dust" about Iraq.

Springsteen did not directly mention Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Obama's rival for the Democratic nomination, in his letter, but appeared to take issue with her recent criticisms of comments made by Obama about working-class voters in small towns in Pennsylvania and controversial statements by his pastor.

"Critics have tried to diminish Senator Obama through the exaggeration of certain of his comments and relationships," Springsteen wrote. "While these matters are worthy of some discussion, they have been ripped out of the context and fabric of the man's life and vision ... often in order to distract us from discussing the real issues: war and peace, the fight for economic and racial justice, reaffirming our Constitution, and the protection and enhancement of our environment."

"The Boss hasn't done anything for Hillary Clinton, so Hillary Clinton doesn't have to do anything for the boss. Screw 'im!" -Hillary Clinton.

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So it's a bad thing that a candidate spends money putting themselves forward? Then doesn't that reflect five-times worse on Obama who is outspending Hillary five to one in Pa.?

By the way, independent analysts have said that Obama's plan leaves off 15 million Americans. Some analysts say the number could be higher. The ad is not false.

As far as it being negative, who cares? When Obama isn't being directly negative himself, he's accusing Hillary of being negative, which is a negative attack in itself. Plus he's posing as a martyr, which is very unattractive for a candidate running for the office of President. He calls Hillary "Annie Oakley", and they says she's attacking him. It's getting old.

Plus he's posing as a martyr, which is very unattractive for a candidate running for the office of President.

"Why do I always get the first question?!"

HAH

Tony Stark endorses Obama?

otto, he doesn't leave anyone out. Those who need insurance can get buy into it - no denials, no pre-existing conditions. I have no clue where they come up with 'Obama will leave 15 mil out in the cold' comes from. Anybody who needs it, can get it. It will be affordable too because he will not allow insurance companies to buy in unless they conform to the rules the government sets for them. That right there reduces costs. Hillary is in the pockets of the insurance companies who have donated more to her camapaign than any other. Believe me, with Hillary's plan it will not be the insurance companies profits that will suffer. It will be the poor schmucks who will have to pay riduculously high FORCED premiums who will get stuck. (see NAFTA-gate) If Hillary wink winked at CA I am sure she is doing it for the insurance and pharmaceuticals too. See the Hillary Clip from sicko:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J1I_EJrCHU&NR=1

Hillary Pimping Lobbyists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvsrT8tz6U&feature=related

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Bruce Springsteen endorses Obama for president


http://brucespringsteen.net/news/index.html

By JOAN LOWY – 1 hour ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Rock star Bruce Springsteen endorsed Democratic Sen. Barack Obama for president Wednesday, saying "he speaks to the America I've envisioned in my music for the past 35 years."

In a letter addressed to friends and fans posted his Web site, Springsteen said he believes Obama is the best candidate to undo "the terrible damage done over the past eight years."

"He has the depth, the reflectiveness, and the resilience to be our next president," the letter said. "He speaks to the America I've envisioned in my music for the past 35 years, a generous nation with a citizenry willing to tackle nuanced and complex problems, a country that's interested in its collective destiny and in the potential of its gathered spirit. A place where '...nobody crowds you, and nobody goes it alone.' "

The bard of New Jersey is known for his lyrics about the struggles of working-class Americans, particularly in the economically ravaged factory towns of the Northeast.

Springsteen and his E Street band were part of the Vote for Change tour, a coalition of musicians opposed to the re-election of President Bush in 2004. He wrote the anti-war ballad "Devils and Dust" about Iraq.

Springsteen did not directly mention Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Obama's rival for the Democratic nomination, in his letter, but appeared to take issue with her recent criticisms of comments made by Obama about working-class voters in small towns in Pennsylvania and controversial statements by his pastor.

"Critics have tried to diminish Senator Obama through the exaggeration of certain of his comments and relationships," Springsteen wrote. "While these matters are worthy of some discussion, they have been ripped out of the context and fabric of the man's life and vision ... often in order to distract us from discussing the real issues: war and peace, the fight for economic and racial justice, reaffirming our Constitution, and the protection and enhancement of our environment."

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The Calendar now has Michelle Obama's appearances, so it is no longer just Hillary's spouse getting listed there. Yea!

Where is Hillary today? Is she memorizing lines and three part presentations for the debate tonight, or what?

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That's what you call "ripping Obama"?

Is there a feinting couch at TPM these days for all of you delicate flowers?

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Hillary ordered Bill to screw the White working class. He took her advise and did so to Gennifer, Paula, and many other White Working Class Bimbos. Hillary told him to do so. Here is what she said: It makes me feel very bitter.

In January 1995, as the Clintons were licking their wounds from the 1994 congressional elections, a debate emerged at a retreat at Camp David. Should the administration make overtures to working class white southerners who had all but forsaken the Democratic Party? The then-first lady took a less than inclusive approach.

"Screw 'em," she told her husband.

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You're kidding. They want them to call the Obama campaign?

How many irate callers do you think the receptionists can flip with the talking points that will no doubt be prepared in response to this ad?

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I notice all those 527 operations use that "call.so and so, and ask or tell him" I think it is a legal gimmick that has been devised to allow them to claim that they are just an issue advocacy group, and are not running a partisan ad that is not allowed.

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Come on guys! How about a post about those "screw'em" comments? You sure jumped on Obama's "bitter" comments - how about some equal reporting here. I'm watching to see who has the balls to post it first.

They have a link on the front page to the Huff piece.

I have a question for everyone: why is $250,000 considered not so much cash for ads?

(and btw, I laughed out loud at the Heinz Field comment)....

This 527 thinks it's being smart, getting around finance limits (which in itself is creepy and should shame Hillary but won't). They are most certainly too clever by half. They are wasting money on a loser in the nomination fight that could be spent towards the general election and taking the Presidency this November. A fool and his money... no ambassadorships for them.

They may also find themselves looking at some actual jail time once the FEC is manned back up and President Obama's Justice Department starts taking a look at the fact that these people essentially held a meeting in which they said "how can we flout campaign finance laws and spend some more of our vast wealth to help Hillry? I know, we'll form a 527 and run "issue ads" that mention the candidates by name and attack Obama."

Right, because the extortion letter they sent to Pelosi didn't work. They had to do something.

Obama didn't insult anybody! HILLARY did! This according to the ex Republican Greek botoxed hack's crappy biased and unreliable website, from a book by an author who says he was the only one in the room! I'm sure Olbermann will spend 3 hours talking about it with 4 Clinton jock sniffers tonight. Can't wait!

Did you even read the article before writing this? There was at least one corroborating witness:

"But those who were at the event say the 1995 episode fits into her larger viewpoint. As Harry Boyte, the director of the University of Minnesota's Center for Democracy and Citizenship who was at the retreat, told The Huffington Post: "[Hillary Clinton] sees herself as the champion of the oppressed, but there is always a kind of good guy versus bad guy mentality. The comment before that was that 'the Reagan Democrats are our enemies and they weren't on our side,' and she was agreeing with that comment. She said we should write them off: screw them.""

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/hillary-clinton-on-workin_n_97017.html

Explosive!!

I wish it were possible for Obama supporters to see how utterly stupid and childish you come across. Increasingly it's easy, and quite a bit more fun to pick on than even wingnuts. This site has become a liberal Redstate.com

"utterly stupid and childish"??

Who's calling who names?

And ... you didn't answer my question -- did you even read the Huff Po piece before posting your note? If so, how can you claim there was no one else in the room to witness what Hillary said? If not, why not?

Clarifying facts is not childish, it's the adult thing to do in order to have a logical discussion. Or is that too "elitist" for you?

Silly man, he's taking cues from his candidate, why read something before you make a decision or statement when you've already made your mind up for political expediency? Hint: NIE

But what do I know? I'm just an Obamatronationbotperson, or whatever they're calling us these days.

That is tabloid jornalism.

Pure garbage only the biased, pathetic, Obama blogs would slither so low to post.

One guy trying to sell books spewed that crap.

Total bs.

-------> points you to article that has a corroborating witness other than the author.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/hillary-clinton-on-workin_n_97017.html

The Clinton Campaign Implosion Continues!

(and btw, I laughed out loud at the Heinz Field comment)....


me too.

I'm not posting this (simply) to knock Hillary for her recent faux-outrage. Rather, this whole affair recounted at HP, and generally this recurrent challenge for the modern Democratic Party, is very interesting in itself:

[Following the shock of the 1994 Republican take-over of Congress, enabled in great part by southern blue-collar Democrats...]

"Screw 'em," she told her husband. "You don't owe them a thing, Bill. They're doing nothing for you; you don't have to do anything for them."

The statement [...] was prompted by another speaker raising the difficulties of reaching "Reagan Democrats." It stands in stark contrast to the attitude the New York Democrat has recently taken on the campaign trail [...].

[...] Harry Boyte, the director of the University of Minnesota's Center for Democracy and Citizenship who was at the retreat, told The Huffington Post: "[Hillary Clinton] sees herself as the champion of the oppressed, but there is always a kind of good guy versus bad guy mentality. The comment before that was that 'the Reagan Democrats are our enemies and they weren't on our side,' and she was agreeing with that comment. She said we should write them off: screw them."

[...]

Perhaps even more telling than Hillary Clinton's proclamation, however, were the words from her husband that followed. As reported by Barber, Clinton "stepped in, calm and judicious, not irritated, as if rehearsing an old but honorable debate he had been having with his wife for decades."

Bill Clinton: "I know how you feel. I understand Hillary's sense of outrage. It makes me mad too. Sure, we lost our base in the South; our boys voted for Gingrich. But let me tell you something. I know these boys. I grew up with them. Hardworking, poor, white boys, who feel left out, feel that our reforms always come at their expense. Think about it, every progressive advance our country has made since the Civil War has been on their backs. They're the ones asked to pay the price of progress. Now, we are the party of progress, but let me tell you, until we find a way to include these boys in our programs, until we stop making them pay the whole price of liberty for others, we are never going to unite our party, never really going to have change that sticks."

If the tone and tenor of the above sounds familiar, it's because the message, Boyte says, is remarkably similar to what Obama was trying to convey in his now controversial remarks about small town America [...].


I'm not posting this (simply) to knock Hillary for her recent faux-outrage. Rather, this whole affair recounted at HP, and generally this recurrent challenge for the modern Democratic Party, is very interesting in itself:

[Following the shock of the 1994 Republican take-over of Congress, enabled in great part by southern blue-collar Democrats...]

"Screw 'em," she told her husband. "You don't owe them a thing, Bill. They're doing nothing for you; you don't have to do anything for them."

The statement [...] was prompted by another speaker raising the difficulties of reaching "Reagan Democrats." It stands in stark contrast to the attitude the New York Democrat has recently taken on the campaign trail [...].

[...] Harry Boyte, the director of the University of Minnesota's Center for Democracy and Citizenship who was at the retreat, told The Huffington Post: "[Hillary Clinton] sees herself as the champion of the oppressed, but there is always a kind of good guy versus bad guy mentality. The comment before that was that 'the Reagan Democrats are our enemies and they weren't on our side,' and she was agreeing with that comment. She said we should write them off: screw them."

[...]

Perhaps even more telling than Hillary Clinton's proclamation, however, were the words from her husband that followed. As reported by Barber, Clinton "stepped in, calm and judicious, not irritated, as if rehearsing an old but honorable debate he had been having with his wife for decades."

Bill Clinton: "I know how you feel. I understand Hillary's sense of outrage. It makes me mad too. Sure, we lost our base in the South; our boys voted for Gingrich. But let me tell you something. I know these boys. I grew up with them. Hardworking, poor, white boys, who feel left out, feel that our reforms always come at their expense. Think about it, every progressive advance our country has made since the Civil War has been on their backs. They're the ones asked to pay the price of progress. Now, we are the party of progress, but let me tell you, until we find a way to include these boys in our programs, until we stop making them pay the whole price of liberty for others, we are never going to unite our party, never really going to have change that sticks."

If the tone and tenor of the above sounds familiar, it's because the message, Boyte says, is remarkably similar to what Obama was trying to convey in his now controversial remarks about small town America [...].

Full story:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/hillary-clinton-on-workin_n_97017.html


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How does Obama's plan not insure 15Million when it is completly voluntary?

Anyone can purchase the health care.

What happens to those 15M under Hillary's plan are they FORCED to purchase health care they can't afford?

Does she garnishee their wages or what? Are they forced into financial committments when they seek care?

How awful.

Hopefully Obama will address this at the debate tonight.

Thanks for asking the question about all of those people being "left out" under Obama's plan. It's the one argument against his plan that I don't understand.

When someone says "left out" it usually refers to someone being denied something - will this be the case with Obama's plan? or are people just using that term to describe people who choose not to purchase the insurance?

Anyone have any insight on this?

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The latest poll, out today on the Washington Post shows that Hillary's negatives have gone sky high, which means that she has no chance of ever winning a general election campaign.

You will not see TPM drawing much attention to this:


Poll Shows Erosion Of Trust in Clinton

By Anne E. Kornblut and Jon Cohen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, April 16, 2008; A06

PHILADELPHIA, April 15 -- Lost in the Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign's aggressive attacks on Barack Obama in recent days is a deep and enduring problem that threatens to undercut any inroads Clinton has made in her struggle to overtake him in the Democratic presidential race: She has lost trust among voters, a majority of whom now view her as dishonest.

Her advisers' efforts to deal with the problem -- by having her acknowledge her mistakes and crack self-deprecating jokes -- do not seem to have succeeded. Privately, the aides admit that the recent controversy over her claim to have ducked sniper fire on a trip to Bosnia probably made things worse.

Clinton is viewed as "honest and trustworthy" by just 39 percent of Americans, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, compared with 52 percent in May 2006. Nearly six in 10 said in the new poll that she is not honest and trustworthy. And now, compared with Obama, Clinton has a deep trust deficit among Democrats, trailing him by 23 points as the more honest, an area on which she once led both Obama and John Edwards.

Among Democrats, 63 percent called her honest, down 18 points from 2006; among independents, her trust level has dropped 13 points, to 37 percent. Republicans held Clinton in low regard on this in the past (23 percent called her honest two years ago), but it is even lower now, at 16 percent. Majorities of men and women now say the phrase does not apply to Clinton; two years ago, narrow majorities of both did.

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If what you say defines the Obama supporters its because we are experiencing the thrill of victory while Clinton supporters have been reduced from "inevitability" to the agony of defeat.

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If she could just get her supporters to donate like Obama's does, no doubt she would spend just as much. Maybe she could loan herself another 5 million.

maybe she already has

Re "Screw-em-Gate." This will resonate because, whether the quote is accurate or not, it fits in perfectly with the attitude of the Clinton campaign and their attitude that any state that doesn't go for Clinton "doesn't count."

In Hillaryland, people who don't vote for her don't count. Her campaign has said that over and over. After being on the receiving end of that kind of attitude (I am in one those insignificant states), the screw 'em quote seems perfectly plausible.

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Just asking, but...

Last week there was a report that some senior Democrats were lowering expectation on BOTH candidates health care proposals, in light of that, is the reality that Hillary's plan is LESS likely than Obama's to get passed?
In which case, has anyone asked Elizabeth Edwards if she supports Hillary's plan unconditionally, and also, should someone ask Hillary if she believes the plan is passable?
[Gotta say for the record though: McCain's Walmart plan sounds SOOOOO appealing doesn't it? Gallbladder removal on special all week, get it out now while its cheap!!!]

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