So in other words, she's clinging to bitterness.

Well, at least she's off the booze and has put the guns away.

"The colonel never gives away the secret recipe"

Keep it dude, we don't need a recipe for losing.

I'm not bitter. Seriously, I'm not. You'd be bitter too if everything you tried didn't work. Still, I'm not bitter. See?

I'm sure the people of PA will be swayed by the opinions of a Clinton campaign volunteer from New Jersey who speaks on behalf of all Pennsylvanians.

Good job, Clinton camp! Completely fucking up at every turn on DAY ONE!!

""We don't discuss our ad strategy. The colonel never gives away the secret recipe."

Uh, dude... the Colonel is dead!

While these attacks are probably having some effect at slowing down Obama they are also pulling Clinton's numbers down in PA and nationally. She is trying to make a case to the Supers that she is the one who can win in November at the same time that her national numbers and trustworthiness are slipping further and further down.

The only real chance she has at this point is to suspend her campaign and wait and see if Obama screws up royally between now and the convention. She may win PA but her tactics are costing her bigtime and she didn't have good approval ratings before she went on the attack. How does she think that she can effectively win in November and more importantly lead the nation if she starts with low approval ratings "on day one"?

I really don't think that she is thinking about this campaign in any logical terms at this point.

Is this the ad with the Clinton supporter from New Jersey posing as a Pennsylvanian?

Hillary's message is hollow as a drum.

Let Hillary run her smear campaign, and let Senator Obama keep on being the truth teller:

Hear is where he is coming from:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHodpyhXFSg&feature=user

It's an informative ad. The issue of the sentiments expressed by Obama in his "cling to" gaffe is the most legitimate issue I have heard so far. And I thank Hillary for airing it, a job that the media has abdicated again.
While campaign promises and political situations change over time, one's sentiments are durable and they end up manifesting themselves in his actions and decisions. An example is Obama's "cling to" gaffe and his at first his denial of having heard Wrights fiery sermons and having stayed with the church for 20 years.
The most important news for the voters to hear are those the candidates don't want you to know or are keeping away from you. The rest can be seen in their websites and ads, hence, are really not newsworthy to cover.
This gaffe by Obama is newsworthy and I hope that media don't fail to inform the voters of the candidates' sentiments, particularly on those least able to help themselves and have no voice as opposed to the audience in San Francisco he gave his remarks on "cling to".

"We don't discuss our ad strategy. The colonel never gives away the secret recipe."

Hillary looks a little too much like a chicken for that anology to be a good one.

"I love the smell of desperation in the morning… It smells like… victory."

Seems to me that everyone is arguing about something that doesn't exist: those remarks were NOT what Obama said, any more than the distorted soundbite "I invented the internet" is what Gore said. What Obama SAID was "people cling to [political issues like] religion [such as abortion or gay rights] and gun [control]... [They are not interested in the talking points of my campaign].

The fact that he left certain words out and that they had to be gathered from the context of the surrounding sentences in a semi-private conversation is something that everyone needs to keep in mind when discussing his words. It wasn't what he said that is causing him problems; it is what he left unsaid.

Could someone provide the link? This is the type of stories that has legs and be replayed over and over by the MSM, a politician faking small town people talking to small town people, this will get the small town folks up in arms. It should be brought to the attention of Obama's campaign.

How is is possible that the DNC lets her get away with this? Even McCain has said that BHO isn't an elitist.

This just shows that the DNC needs to step up and put an end to this thing after IN/NC. This has become a disgrace.

Shame on her for making me almost feel sorry for her

Mike
http://www.theobamageneration.com

About time. She has not run a negative campaign yet.

"Democrats are now asking themselves whether they were
too precipitate in placing their hopes in Obama:

Democrats are now asking themselves whether they were too precipitate in placing their hopes in a candidate about whom they knew so little. Obama is smooth tongued and good looking, with a plausible manner, but the more we come to know of him, the more he looks like a certain loser in November."

http://www.nysun.com/editorials/miracle-philadelphia

Time to go for the knockout.

For the record, an UPSHOT is simply a result or consequence of an action, there is no value (positive or negative) intended.

Sorry, that was meant to be a response to Ryotsu near the top of thread.

when all you've got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

"We don't discuss our ad strategy. The colonel never gives away the secret recipe."

The colonel's food is unhealthy. The Clinton campaign is unhealthy. Living on the Colonel's diet can corrode your arteries. Watching the Clinton campaign for this long has well neigh corroded the Democratic Party.

Folks, unless there is some serious, really damaging information yet waiting to come out about Obama, this long campaign with Clinton works to his benefit against McCain in the general.

What the Obama campaign seems to have figured out is that Youtube, Google, and discussion boards like this have altered the dynamics of the news cycle. I have no inside knowledge, but every one of their responses to 'challenges' appears to have been based on a recognition that they did not need to 'win' a 24-hour, or even one-week news cycle based purely on 10 second soundbites.

The analogy I'd give you would be the process of cultural influence Hawthorne describes in _The Scarlet Letter_: while the Puritan authorities tried to constrain Hester Prynne within their narrative as "Adulteress," her patient, consistent demeanor resulted in the town creating a new narrative within which she was "Able," or "Angel."

Ah, the Clinton campaign is always such a ray of sunshine.

People in PA have a right to be bitter and thank God someone is concerned about their future and their economic hardships, opportunities. It wasn't worded right but clearly Obama's head & heart is/was in the right place.

Clinton uses the lowest common denominator to get votes, and yes she will get some votes that way, by scrapping the barrel. Instead of doing ads talking about what her plans are, she is attacking Obama. Why is this a substantive issue for PA voters? It isn't, plain and simple. Let Clinton do these ads, but how are they educating, inspiring, mobilizing or explaining anything of importance to voters?

Obama on the other hand has already aired issues that need to be aired and dealt with. He tells the truth and he elevates the nation. I hope that the American people will see this and vote for him. Even if he looses PA, don't worry the nation sees what is going on in PA and I think in general they think Clinton is phoney. She may win there but she has shown her true colors to the rest of the nation. Also, I don't think she will win (if she does) by a lot. This vote will be a gut-check type of vote for 1) the candidate who tells you the truth or 2) the candidate who wants to make believe that we are still living in 1991 or something.

It is 2008, we have grown as a nation and we have serious troubles facing our nation. For the Governor of PA to say what he said, he is trying to make people believe that they aren't ready to vote for an African American. Rendell and Clinton need to step up to the plate, it is 2008...so much has gone on, people are more educated and yes, more bitter! We need change. Obama is deflating that denial ballon. Clinton can't make it all better. She is too stuck in the past.

Also, Bruce Springsteen just endorsed Obama!

Could it be it's the only ad she can AFFORD to run?

This
ryotsu

is telling me as Obama supporter to read and realize the facts?

The only fact that I read and realize is that Obama is ahead in delegates and popular votes. So unless Sen. Clinton overcomes that, discussing all these other issues doesn't make sense.

So I want you to go back and realize that fact. If she can win the delegate counts and popular vote then you can come back and give me all other reasons. If she manages to overtake on delegate counts, even if Obama is in better position for November I will still support Hillary's nomination.

So these are the mindset of Obama supporters. If you cannot realize the mere facts of current race, then you assertion of history doesn't make any sense. History is made every time new things happens, thats' why it is called history. So please get a life. Come back to us after Clinton's victory in delegate counts.

Hope Hillary doesn't get all that muck from the gutter on her motherfucking pantsuit.

But that's another story.

The real story is going to be watching the superdelegates assess the Hill-sta as she descends into her thug-like antics.

It's ironic that John McCaveman might be more civil.

Oh, this is delicious. Hillary Clinton on working class voters in 1995: "Screw 'em."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/hillary-clinton-on-workin_n_97017.html

Please do not feed the trolls. Thank you.

Speaking of negative, if you're an Obama supporter, this little ditty is pretty damn hilarious. If you backing Hillary, you might not want to click:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJLcptupENc

It's so interesting that Obama runs an ad saying he doesn't take any money from Oil Companies. True. It is illegal for him to take money from Oil Companies. So how does he get around the law? He takes money from Oil Company employees. What's interesting is that he's been called on this already. But he continues to run deceptive ads about it. Maybe he really does believe small-town people to be stupid.

On a side not, I don't get why some Democrats seem to be upset that Obama is not taking money from PACs, but from ordinary people (including oil workers, yes!) instead.

I mean, which is worst? Having lobbyists literally running their business from your campaign bus?

Or having people with degrees of separation from lobbying firms help your campaign because they believe in YOU.

All this "controversy" about Obama's fundraising seems very forced, and in the end, damaging NOT to Obama, but to the campaigns making the accusations.

Because all Obama has to do is go, "Oh, what I'm doing is bad? Then what YOU are doing is worse."

Not smart. And I DO hope this comes up in the debate tonight, and I hope Hillary brings it up.

OBAMA TRIVIA
============

Here are some more or less known facts about the brilliant orator and presidential hopeful:

- he used alcohol, marijuana, and cocaine during his teenage years to
"push questions of who I was, out of my mind"

- according to his own claims both parents were declared atheists

- His first name Barak is a specific Arabic first name and his middle name Hussein is
a specific Muslim name

- Despite the fat that he claims that he has never been raised as a Muslim, in the
various schools he attended in Jakarta, Indonesia, he was registered as a Muslim;
also, according to his sister Maya Soetoro, "the family did not attend the mosque
for regular worship, but for communal events"

- his father was a polygamist, as he was already married with a child in Kenya,
when he married Barak Jr.'s mother: Ann Dunham; before divorcing her, he married
a 3rd woman, Ruth, while studying in Boston, MA

- four years after his father's death, Obama Jr. traveled to his father's ancestral
Kenyan village. There he learned the full story of his father's life and met some of
his relatives

- after his father, he has 6 step-brothers and a step-sister

- after his own told recollections, he was tortured by fellow pupils - who let out monkey hoots -
and turned into a disenchanted teenage rebel, experimenting with cocaine, marijuana and alcohol
However a former classmate, Alan Lum, radically contradicts Barak's claim:
"Hawaii is such a melting pot that it didn't occur to me when we were growing up that
he might have problems about being one of the few African-Americans at the school. Us kids didn't see color. He was easy-going and well-liked."

- While at Columbia University, his book claims, "no matter how many times the
administration tried to paint them over, the walls remained scratched with blunt
correspondence (about) niggers."
But one of his classmates, Joe Zwicker, 45, now a lawyer in Boston, said:
"That surprises me. Columbia was a pretty tolerant place.
There were African American students in my classes and I never saw any evidence
of racism at all."

- According to Chicago Sun of Feb 13, 08, a volunteer setting up an Obama office in Texas
had a Cuban flag with a picture of Che Guevara tacked up in her office

- the Italian translation of the book "Audacity of Hope" was published with an introduction
by Walter Vetroni, a former leader of the Italian Communist party

- One of Obama's good friend, campaign contributor and advisor is Tony Rezko, an Arab American, born in Syria, who is currently facing federal charges of attempted extortion, money laundering, and fraud; Obama had actually received nearly three times more campaign cash from Rezko and his associates than he has publicly acknowledged

- Interestingly, Obama's campaign has relied heavily on people such as Kenneth Griffin, a
Chicago-based hedge-fund manager who reportedly earned $1.4bn last year

- Obama's spiritual leader and counselor is Reverend Jeremiah Wright, who said in the
newly disclosed video that the 9/11 attacks were brought on by US "terrorism."

- Obama's congregation invited the leader of the terrorist organization Hamas, to post
political opinions in their printed flier

-Obama's wife Michelle ( possible First Lady) publicly declared that she is for the first time
proud for her country, when her husband is runing for President

- Barak has close association with the domestic terrorist organization
members like:
- William Ayers, who bombed high-profile government buildings,including the Capitol (in 70 and 72),
- Carl Davidson or Bernardine Dohrn, members of the "Weathermen" underground radical
leftist group that referred to itself as a revolutionary organization of men and women,
whose purpose was to carry out a series of attacks that would achieve the revolutionary
overthrow of the US Government

- Barak, while living in Hawaii, developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Frank Marshall Davis,
outstanding member of the US Communist Party, by listening to his “poetry” and getting
advice on his career path

- he repeatedly ducked controversial stands in an apparent attempt to make it easier
to be elected to higher office. For example, as a state senator in Illinois,
he voted "present" rather than "aye" or "nay" nearly an astounding 130 times

- he is endorsed by former Black Panther Charles Barron, and by Louis Farrakhan, the leader
of the "Nation of Islam", as well as other senior memebers of the Nation of Islam

- According to the National Journal, Obama is the most liberal of all 100 senators, who has
absolutely no military, executive or foreign policy experience