Like every other tactic, this will work brilliantly for her too.

But I've also heard that when you are president you often get the first question. How will Hillary deal with that! It's unfair!

Did she not complain during one debate about always getting the first question and then spend two weeks saying the media is asks her too many tough question. Clinton has to learn about YouTube and Blogs. This old style crap won't work.

There she goes again, hitting him on the substantive issues.

If you actually watched Obama's comments about the debate "whine" and "complain" couldn't be further from the truth.

He brushed his shoulders off!

Excuse me?

But you know, being asked tough questions in a debate is nothing like the pressures you face inside the White House. And in fact when the going gets tough you can't just walk away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kNbaCKYaPI

When the phone rings at three in the morning, is she going to whine about it being Achmadenijihad (sp) or Putin's turn to get the 3 AM phone call?

IF there's a terrorist attack, is she going to say they're picking on her because they're misogynist?

Never mind whining and trying to change the rules as a GE strategy, how's that going to work as a national defense strategy?

Complaining? Whining? Sorry, Clintons, that just doesn't fly. We can watch the video on this thing called Youtube, remember? What I saw was Obama *commenting* on the attacks/distractions using devastating humor and then pivoting to how he will get us past this.

Complaining and whining imply craven, defensive, weakness. Obama is the opposite of all that.

one interesting comparison: affirmative action and the Catholic Church's denial that its priests were ass fucking little boys. If you question the sensibility of AA, its defenders shriek that you have no right to question their obviously immoral and nonsensical system. Same as with priests, if you object to them ass fucking children, their reaction is quite similar.

Here in Europe, priests are not allowed to ass fuck under-age children, and students are admitted to university based on their demonstrated academic capabilities. In both cases, it really does work better.

Who was that Masked Whiner who kept blaming her troubles on "A Vast Right Wing Conspiracy"

Has that Habitual Lying Whiner ever been Unmasked!

I'm sorry, but I can't put it any nicer:

What a bitch! This coming from the queen of whining about the media's FAIR coverage, and then Mrs. Right Wing Conspiracy and her red faced finger pointing blame-the-media-and-everyone-else husband accuse Obama of complaining, when he wasn't??

THIS is why people call her a bitch, not because she is an assertive woman, not because she is strong minded, no, because she does BITCHY crap like this. She has worked hard to earn the title bitch.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Aaaaaaaaaaaaand, blah.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

You know when you really get tough questions as president? When you're forced to give a deposition about schtupping the interns.

No Caveat from Greg Sargent about how Hillary has a long record of complaining about being asked all the tough questions.

I am shocked, shocked I tell you!!!.

Of course reporters and other very low information voters won't remember the dozens of times Clinton complained bitterly about the press in general and debate moderators specifically. It's truly laughable that she's out there saying Obama can't take it considering her whole campaign has been run as the victim.

When is she going to be out of my RSS reader and off my television screen? Please make it stop.

oh the word I was looking for is dignitude, the emotional combination of you-can't-offend-my-dignity and defensive attitude expressed agressively.

Check out the article “Barack’s “Underground” Friends” http://savagepolitics.com/?p=291

http://www.savagepolitics.com
brilliant writing plus it offers a great community in which to discuss. The editor actually takes time to answer and the political humor section is awesome!!!

You hit the nail right on the head in that B.O. was not complaining about tough questions but rather stupid questions.

There's another nugget in her interview and it was HRC citing that she faced tough questions in past debates. She is correct in her assertion that she did but I also seem to recall her whining that she was asked questions first.

Just like a Clinton, wanting it both ways, saying one thing and then doing another.

This makes Clinton look sad.

I also thought I detected a whiff of melancholy from her at the end of the debate - as if she knew this was her last debate as a candidate this year.

The Daily Show ran a clip of just how bad Obama's performance was. It was the worst performance in a debate and exposed how well he would do if the Dems are dumb enough to run him.

Clinton is the only choice if you want to win. Period.

Obama walked into an ambush. But he handled himself and did not complain ... except to say it took nearly 45 minutes to get to any substantive issue. Conversely, when Obama had a chance to stick a knife in Hillary's back over Bosnia, he refrained. Now that's class. The next day he said to go hard against Republicans is fair game, but when dealing with a fellow Democrat, he feels compelled to use restraint. In short, you do not sucker punch your own sibling. Hillary hasn't learned that lesson. In fact, precisely because of Hillary Clinton's overzealous, unrestrained negativity, the result is the story posted earlier on TPM -- Howard Dean calling for Superdels start to making their decisions now. Get ready for one hell of a backlash.

"Buzz that rattled Obama gave Clinton obscene gesture during the debate:

"The timing, the gesture, the sheer passive-aggressiveness of the act, which would fit Obama’s passive-aggressive campaign, couldn’t be simply a habitual gesture," says the Democratic Daily. The Los Angeles Times blog has the story at the link."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/obamaflipsoffcl.html

Low class loser.

"Buzz that rattled Obama gave Clinton obscene gesture during the debate:

How old are you? I get the feeling you are about McCain's age.

Do you call brushing off your shoulder and obscene gesture?

Ugh! I can't even stomach the sound of her voice anymore. She's like a broken record and needs to be tossed.

I have a question:

When Hillary said that she "said things that were at odds with what I knew to be case" is she not admitting that she was lying?

Obama should just come out with the whole "we have another word for that where I come from.." routine...

Obama needs to drop out. He is embarrssing himself and your party:

Clinton is the only choice if you want to win.Period.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhkq11UExcw

Enough with the bs.

It was certainly the first thing that struck me after the debate. People were complaining about how tough the moderators were on Obama.

Well, that's not quite true. The first thing that struck me as I waited here on the west coast to see the debate was that those Obama supporters live-blogging the debate from the east did not seem very happy about it.

Then after seeing the debate that evening I was again struck by the relative silence from Obama supporters on the net that night.

But on the day following the debate the full outcry was evident. Kos and MoveOn.org were leading the charge to get people to phone or write ABC and complain. It gave me one impression, and one impression only. People realized how badly Obama came across, and they wanted to blame it on the questions rather than his performance. I kept thinking how, if Obama had done well, all those people would be rejoicing rather than complaining about the questions. I also was reminded of how well Hillary did under far tougher questions on the previous debate on MSNBC. And she ended that debate on a triumphant note, proving she could take what they dished out, and still triumph.

So I have to say that I don't think Hillary is just posturing for political gain when she and Bill point out that people are whining. I see that as a fact. And I see it as an important fact. And then Obama joined in and started complaining, and making excuses, and saying that he would fight harder against the Republicans, but was only holding back with Hillary because he did not want to be divisive with a fellow Democrat. I didn't buy that at all. The debate rattled him. He's clearly just doing damage control.

Obama just isn't all that good on his feet. We've seen that all along. He's a marvelous speaker when he has prepared and rehearsed text. He can even pull off using a bit of that Baptist gospel preacher style that most other politicians would never dare use. But on his feet he is far less inspiring. And in debates his biggest strength is that he remains calm. But until this last debate he never faced the really tough questions, and when confronted with them, I'm sorry, he just wilted. And he looked rattled and angry. And the questions were not THAT tough. He will face worse. This is just one more factor to add to the list of vulnerabilities Obama has when coming up against McCain and the GOP.

But most of all I have come away from the debate and the aftermath much more worried. Since Hillary's chances are looking so slim, I have to look at the prospect of Obama being the nominee who goes up against McCain, and I'm really worried. I don't believe he can come out ahead of McCain, despite all McCain's obvious problems. We've seen idiots like Bush win twice when it should never have happened. Despite all of Obama's desire to take the high road, he is running against the GOP hit machine, and I believe his poor performance in the debate underscores the grave danger he and our party are in.

I believe Hillary can definitely handle the heat. She has proved it. I am deeply worried if she is not the nominee.

No one beats HillaryCo. when it seems like someone is being unkind to her: The Whines of Outrage are nonstop. There are complaints that the boys are gaining up on her, SNL does weekly opening sketches defending her unfair treatment by the media, Bill lashes out, Carville labels individuals as "Judas", she tears up, she lashes out with screams of "Shame on you!", there are endless debates on whether Obama was rude to her on the Senate floor or unkind to her in a remark.
I mean the list of HillGrievances is endless.

She's so damn thin-skinned it's pathetic.

This is her usual distortions and half truths. "Tough questions" wasn't the issue -- trivial and stupid questions that pundits and political may care deeply about, but voters think are less important than the war in iraq, the economy, health-care etc. Yes, those of us who have been glued to the campaign may feel the differences between the two candidatees are minimal and that they'd simply resort to their usual talking points. But it's important to remember that a lot of people are just tuning in -- and deserve insight into important policy issues not inane questions about whether you wear a flag pin.

There is something sociopathic with thinking that questions meant to embarrass, defame, slander or caricature a candidate or office holder are *tough* while questions like: what are you going to do about gas prices, affordability of higher education, investing in children, figuring out the middle east, china, russia, etc... are not.

Sure, politicians have ready answers for policy issues and they struggle when asked when was the last time they beat their wife. But it is clear one is relevant for the job and deserves detailed scrutiny, discussion, and rumination while the other kind is not just irrelevant but downright harmful to the progress and working of our body politic.

This from the person who has broke down in tears, repeatedly, during the campaign.

That was a disgusting display on her part. She misses the whole point, while implying that Obama is a wimp. He is right that this 'debate' was worthless. We don't need 45 minutes of gotcha questions instead of substantive questions about real issues.

One lesson to learn from this primary season is to give the debates to a neutral group such as the League of Women Voters that will ask meaningful questions instead of meaningless, stupid questions about flag pins, what his pastor said, and casual associations with some guy that was a member of the Weather Underground in the 60s.

Senator Clinton; George and I have grown tired of beating Senator Obama over the head with our baseball bats; would you care to take a few swings?

Thank you Charlie, and yes I would.

Everyone needs to read Robert Reich's endorsement.

I have a friend who blames everything on everyone else but herself, after 10 yrs later I'm the only one answers calls from her among our friends and I do so because I feel sorry for her.

I have a friend who blames everything on everyone else but herself, after 10 yrs later I'm the only one answers calls from her among our friends and I do so because I feel sorry for her.

I had about o, 350 clients who were convicted felons whose appeals I did and that's just what their attitude always was, too. It's someone else's fault.

Enough of the questions about Obama's pastor, the wearing of a flag lapel pin, yada, yada.......!
Get to the issues! The economy going in the dumps, the war(s),the eroding of American citizens rights, the so-called "War on Terror", 9/11 investigations.....on and on......

I don't think anyone could characterize those stupid questions as "hard" ones.

Do the Clintons have absolutely no concept of how wildly hypocritical they are when they say shit like this? I mean these two are the f-ing royal family of complaining about the big bad media, and they didn't even have much cause to:
http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/02/waaaahh-meeedia-playing-for-excuses.html

But when Obama has every reason to, and then doesn't even complain, he simply brushes it off (literally) and says this is a perfect example of the kind of politics he is running against, the kind that keeps us from focusing on the real issues, they accuse him of whining??? Yeah, this coming from the person who threw a small tantrum over being asked the first question in a debate. The hillpocrisy of it all is shocking:

http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/04/hillary-hates-talking-about-issues.html

While Hillary Clinton was saying today that she
did not think Senator Obama should not be complaining about the kind of questions that Charlie and George asked during the debate, her daughter Chelsey was saying the exact opposite to a College group.

Chelsey urged them to call ABC and complain about the lack of substance in the questions that Charlie and George asked during the debate.

More of the same usual Clinton Doublespeak Bullshit.

Here is the NBC account of what Chelsey said, today.
She did a lot of "whining" about the quality of the questions.

From NBC's Lauren Appelbaum
PHILADELPHIA -- During an event billed as a discussion on the high costs of higher education yesterday afternoon, Chelsea Clinton faced difficult questions from Drexel University law students and faculty. Clinton called on those in attendance to call ABC with their complaints about last night's debate, tied her mother's work with children and women to the current situation with the Texas sect, and poked fun at a conservative first-year law student in the audience.

THE DEBATE: UNFAIR TO OBAMA?
One of the questions Clinton fielded came from a university administrator who asked her about her mom's actions during Tuesday night's debate. "Frankly, I was disappointed in her that she didn't have a stronger reaction to some of the inane questions that were asked that last night and that were really insulting to us and the candidates," Leslie Friedman said to Clinton.

"I agree," Clinton said. "My mom's been talking about the issues ... from public school reform to higher education affordability to equal pay to expanding Family Medical Leave. ... That's what she talks about. I wish that was what the media covered. I wish that was what they had asked about from the beginning last night."

But Friedman, who supports Obama, was not satisfied with this answer, firing back: "I think it's important though for a leader also to step up and say, 'You know, these kinds of questions are inappropriate, and I am insulted when you ask me or my opponent those questions.' And I wish that your mom would stand up and say that."

"And she has so frequently," Chelsea responded. "I am certainly proud at how she has been standing up and talking about the issues, and I wish that is what was focused on. I wish that was what the two moderators at the debate had started the debate last night. I also, as someone who has been a member of the family that has been on the receiving end quite a bit of Republican fire understand that some of what came up in the debate last night in the first part of the debate is unfortunately what will come up in the general election for whomever is running. ... I know that that type of attack will often be more subtle than what was raised in the debate last night and certainly will be pushed forward as trying to carve out what is at stake in this election."

"I wish that was what the debate was focused on last night," Clinton continued, saying her mother would have rather had issue-based questions. "And I hope that you'll write to ABC and you'll tell them that. I'm serous though. ... I hope that you will try to again reestablish those issues of being the focal point of not only this debate but of our politics. I wish that were true. I'm so proud that that is what my mom is always fighting to do."