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Hillary Tells Bill O'Reilly That Wright's Statements Were "Offensive And Outrageous"

Those who predicted that Hillary would hit Reverend Wright during her appearance on Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor were right.

Fox just aired a promo of the interview, which has been recorded and is set to air tonight, and in it, O'Reilly pushes Hillary to attack Wright -- and she obliges. Take a look...

More of the interview as we get it. Full transcript of this snippet after the jump.

O'Reilly: "Can you believe this Rev. Wright guy? Can you believe this guy?"

Clinton: "Well, I'm going to leave it up to voters to decide."

O'Reilly: "Well, what do you think as an American?"

Clinton: "Well, what I said when I was asked directly is that I would not have stayed in the church.

O'Reilly: "You're an American citizen, I'm an American citizen, He's an American citizen, Rev. Wright. What do you think when you hear a fellow American citizen say that kind of stuff about America."

Clinton: "Well, I take offense. I think it's offensive and outrageous. I'm going to express my opinion, others can express theirs. It is part of just, you know, an atmosphere we're in today."


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God Bless Bill O'Reilly and FOX!

LOL

Marginal is merely happy to see her "in her element."

CHEERLEADERS DEMONSTRATE SUPERIOR LEADERSHIP

If Barry and Jerry are the best the AA community can pony up for the leadership of this country then what's the objection to Farrahkan?


VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE
NOT YOUR GUILTY CONSCIENCE

You are a sad, fat little Rennaissance sculpture.

IT IS AS YOU SAY

But my sadness is not due to money squandered on a doomed campaign. It for Michelle and her interior decorator.

(insert mooncheeks here)

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VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE NOT YOUR GUILTY CONSCIENCE

What are you suggesting, exactly?

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Time to bring back the hood avatar...

OH MY GOD!
She said Wright was "offensive and OUTRAGEOUS"?
How dare she!? SHe's plagiarising Obama!

Obama said just the other day that Wright was "divisive and destructive", and that Obama was "OUTRAGED"by his comments.

Get your own line, Hillary.

Don't try logic with these Hitlerjugend. They abandoned it long ago to follow Der Fuehrer Obama into the mousehole of history.

I actually like Obama, but his "supporters" are the biggest pile of trash I've ever seen. Stupid bullies with very little to say but "Heil Obama."

Hillary wins it and you can suck it, Hitlerjugend.

Oh, and you can tell us about "Die Mathematik!" that supposedly wins it for your Fuehrer while you suck it.

Meanwhile Iran has officially complained to the U.N about Hillary's "oblitergate" statement, deeming it "provocative, unwarranted and irresponsible " Presumably they are OUTRAGED and DISGUSTED at her comments, now thats something worth looking into than the old and now completely overused Wright talking points.

Now follow this link in an orderly manner pliz...

I'm shocked! Shocked! A Hillary and O'Reilly love-fest? Who could have predicted this?

I've always thought Hillary was pretty much unelectable, but I'm about to change my mind on that. She's got Ann Coulter's endorsement, she's chummy with O'Reilly, and the wingnuts really hate McCain. If Hillary manages to steal the nomination she won't get the progressive vote or the black vote, but she'll more than make up for it by taking the wingnut vote away from McCain. Nader will get the progressive vote, but who cares.

Suddenly her support for the AUMA, her cheerleading for the surge, her vote to take us closer to preemptive war against Iran, supporting (for a while) legalizing torture, sponsoring a bill to ban flag burning, talking about totally obliterating Iran, endorsing McCain, antagonizing the netroots ... the whole thing starts to make sense. Her plan is nothing less than a hostile takeover of the GOP. It's so crazy it just might work.

Of COURSE Fox wants Hillary to win the nomination. That way, no matter who wins in November, there will be a Republican in the White House.

I wouldn't go that far. But I will say a Clinton in the White House would be pretty darn good for their ratings. I think Fox News remembers the '90s at least as fondly as anyone else.

Please don't let Marginal Player hijack this thread.

Obama was given the same chance in the debate and resisted the obvious opportunity to attack Hillary on Bosnia. Hillary is unconscionable at this point.

(Did I actually spell that right?-no squiggly red line!)

Hillary didn't attack Obama, she attacked Wright. Or now do you agree with those who say Wright and Obama are one and the same?

Apparently you missed the part where she said the "voters would decide". Unless Wright is on the ballot somewhere, that comment is directed squarely Obama and keeping this alive as a political issue.

Voters would decide.

Wright was "outrageous" when he came to the White House to make her husband look like a "godly" man after her husband chose to have an illict affair (number ?? of at least 6 that we are aware of) with a young woman almost the age of their daughter, in the White House while she was in East Wing.

Someone needs to ask an Obama "supporter" what their reaction to Bill's philandering is:

"You know, you can't choose your parents, but you can choose your husband... I know I wouldn't have stayed married to him for 30 years. Now of course, I'm only saying this because someone asked me directly what I thought. I mean I'm not offering up my opinion for political gain, or anything. I just think if you're going to be in a marriage, it should at least count for something. I think it sends the wrong signal to our children about the state of straight marriage in this country. But you know, she chose someone who was always a cheater... I mean, as far as I know... of course there could be no basis for that. Calling him a serial cheater and sexual abuser... is what some people are calling him. Of course I have no opinion on the matter. I was just responding to your direct question... you know what I mean..."

They had 20 year relationship. They are tied together.

Just like Hillary is tied to Bill and everything he's done.

Lest we forget, over 35 years of experience!

I just hate it when you play dumb like this.

Have you never heard the weasel word "plausible deniability?" You just took advantage of it.

Charming candidate you've got there. A real pro, in every sense of the word.

Obama doesn't have the gonads to go on Bill-O's show.
Hillary even appeared on Satan's show: Keith Olbermann.
MSNBC/NBC is in the tank for Barry Obama; why can't Barry appear with Bill-O?

Because Bill O'Reilly is a blowhard and a fascist.

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So Hillary has gonads?

I always thought she was a tad butch, but never thought she was actually a man.

Ovaries are gonads just as testicles are gonads.

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Touche!

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I find it absolutely breathtaking and incredible that so-called Democrats on this site (all Hillary supporters) are actually defending Bill O'Reilly. What has happened to our party? Jesus, I absolutely am stunned. What's next? Defending Rush Limbaugh's call to riot in Denver? Where will you people draw the line? It's really disheartening and it only shows how rabid and ruthless her campaign has become if her supporters are acting this way.

It's 1968 Part II.

Now the anti-war activists are the establishment (except for the Weather Underground/Black Panthers who support Obama).

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You're a racist imbicile who has nothing of any value to say here.

same old ... disagree with Obama = racist

Well, in this case, she's right. Marginal's a troll, alright.

That is true about Marginal specifically, but some Obama supporters do have a nasty habit of crying racist to explain why someone might not support Obama.

some Obama supporters do have a nasty habit of crying racist to explain why someone might not support Obama.

Well, a racist is more likely to be anti-Obama than anti-Clinton. They (the resident racists) sure have come out of the woodwork lately and they aren't screaming support of McCain or Obama.

Ah, yes, Laura Jordan, but a troll with a head constituted of delicious, creamery goodness.

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Why would the Weather Underground and the Black Panthers support Obama? Hillary's husband pardoned two of the Weather Underground and Hillary's much talked about "experience" includes defendgin Black Panters.

They are like Judas and Bill Richardson.

Self-parody much?

They are like Judas and Bill Richardson.

You can't say "he's no longer relevant"
and keep longing to have his endorsement.

Either you want his endorsement,
or drop the subject already.

~ Jess

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the anti-war activists are the establishment

yes it was only the hard work of the outsiders who have no political power that we are on our glorious adventure in iraq. only a grass-roots activist like hillary can give us the additional wars the american people so desperately want!

Actually, if Hillary wins, I'd be tempted to go to Denver and throw a few stones.

Nominating Hillary would be the stupidest thing the Democratic Party has ever done... and they've done some stupid things.

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Nominating Hillary would be the stupidest thing the Democratic Party has ever done... and they've done some stupid things.

Yep!

Rush wants a riot in Denver. Have a good time.

What's next? We need only listen to Sen Strangelove Clinton: the erasure of Iran by nukes. As in Rapture, we won't have to worry about much afterwards.

For the record (mine at least) I happen to find Limbaugh more credible than OReilly. Limbaugh is the first to say his show orbits around his OPINION - I think it would be smart for Obama to accept Hillary's OReilly appearance and raise her a Limbaugh segment.

Obama is sending out some pretty obvious smoke signals to fiscal conservatives and I think they've made a huge difference in the primaries that aren't closed to non-democrats. Hillary seems to only do well amongst closed primaries.

O Reilly on the other hand constantly congratulates himself for his journalistic neutrality - which is bullshit of course.

I think Obama on Fox News Sunday was cool, he likely reached a lot of voters that don't read TPM or watch MSNBC, (I admit not the most enlightened voters, but voters nonetheless).

Showing up on O Reilly's bullshit play-on-a-loop-everything-teenage-half-naked cable show is just gross... and lends credibility to O Reilly that he doesn't deserve.

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What's happened to our party?!!! Is that ever the truth. I used to have a long list of reasons why I didn't support Hillary but it's become much more simple. When I see her, I see a Republican.

In all likelihood he doesn't share Hillary's affection for misognyists.

Not to quibble, but he's got twice as many as she does.

Because he has good judgment, that's why. Bill-O's not going to give anybody a fair shot unless he's furthering the cause of the far right.

Which raises the question: why is she furthering the cause of the far right? That's McCain's job.

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Well well - that was one tough prediction.

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Can you tell me if, tomorrow, water will still be wet?

LOL.

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Oh good lord Bill, why don't the two of you break out the loofas and get it over with.

Of course the orcs at Fox News are going to glad hand Hillary, they want her to win the nomination. Nothing will drive up Gooper turnout like a Clinton on the ticket.

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Yes don't we love how Hillary validates that sexual predator?

what's up with the Enraged Menopausal Clinton Ladies League? How come they aren't howling over her sitting down with a damn sexual predator? Huh?

Double standard there ladies - huh? Maybe?

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I think it is cognitive dissonance.

Tena,

Hillary has a high tolerance level for sexual predators.She is still married to one.

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Zing!!!!!!!

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Damn, I think that left marks!

35 years of experience from living with one.

Someone has to!

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Well, all the Hillbots who criticized Obama for going on fox are probably eating crow. Heh.

No, it was a bunch of rabid Obama supporters (including Kos and Greg Sargent on TPM here) who were criticizing Obama for going on Fox. Get a clue.

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So you don't mind it that the Feminist Heroine was sitting there talking to a sexual predator? A sexual harasser?

Nothing, Ladies?


{{crickets}}

Yeah, about what I thought.

Clinton talking to a sexual predator isn't so far removed from Obama spending 20 years being mentored by a racist. This entire aside, by the way, is just a silly red herring.

Should she have gone Fox? Maybe not. Should Obama have gone on Fox? Maybe not.

More importantly: So what?


HUGE difference between fox news sunday and OReilly's pedophiliac cable news program. Content matters.

For the record: I am NOT a fan of Fox or O'Reilly, in spite of being a Clinton supporter. If that entire bucket of spit disappeared tomorrow the universe would be a better place. But "pedophiliac cable news program" is pretty much over the top. The rhetoric does you and your side a disservice.

And the difference between O'Reilly and the rest of Fox is pretty much one of semantics. You're trying to justify the unjustifiable, IMO.

Have you ever watched The OReilly Factor?

Dubbing OReilly's program a 'pedophiliac cable news program' is entirely accurate and I'm a registered Republican - although not the kind of Republican that watches Fox.

OReilly regularly latches on to any video footage of spring breakers or girls gone wild and runs it on a loop for the entire hour while doing a voice-over expressing his outrage that this filth is so accessible to our youth. Keep in mind his show is on during the day in my time zone.

My husband and I have gone so far as to block Fox News Channel because of this, (I also block ABC family because I think the 700 Club is just as dangerous to our young sons' minds) - OReilly is a pervert and uses the resources of a news network to feed his fetish for young barely dressed women caught on video.

Hillary must have a thing for men her age that ogle and exploit young women 1/3 her age.

Really, Betty, who gives a shit?

I don't think Greg is an Obama supporter.

If he is, he's hiding it very well.

Very well.

Now that I think about it, Lois, I've never actually seen the two of them at the same place at the same time...

Wait a minute!

OUCH greg....sorry to see that one.

I had no problem with it.

He should do more debates too.

Many things have changed.

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Of course you don't have any problem with it; you're a Republican who gets his news from Fox News.

And you are troll.

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This, coming from a republican that oppenly admits he gets his news from Fox news, is laughable.

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Unconscionable - good word.

Shocking. I mean shocking. Clinton actively pushing a negative story about Obama? I mean, who would have thunk it.

I'm just shocked.

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We certainly expect more from our "war heroes" don't we?

What happened to all that character Hillary was supposed to have developed while fighting the Bosnians off?

Golly, what a disappointment.

How stunningly out of character.

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LOLOLOL! Excellent post! :)

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LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!

O'Reilly: "Can you believe this Rev. Wright guy? Can you believe this guy?"

Clinton: "Well, I'm going to leave it up to voters to decide."

Is there a referendum on Wright or something?

This is the 4,895th time she's had the opportunity to stay classy. This is also the 4,895th time she's taken the low road.

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Love your comments, ph.

and this is the 5000th time you said something stupid, idiot!

I don't think Senator Clinton reads TPM. You might direct your comment to her over at her website.

"Well, I'm going to leave it up to voters to decide."

Wow, Hillary, I didn't realize Rev. Wright was up for election.

Rev. Wright has asked to be Obama's vice president.

hyuck hyuck.

And Hagee is running as McCain's.

Moron.

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Well, thanks for that reality check.

I'd say he got his answer yesterday.

mmmmm... fruit juicy Hawaiian Punch!

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Well I'll take him over any Republican you can name.

And I mean that.

Y'all are the ones with the long knives out for everyone Obama ever bumped into, even accidentally, in his life.

So has Hillary. Your point?

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Who did you think I was talking to? Your comment got put in ahead of my reply.

I was talking about Hillary - don't you recognize me well enough by now that if you are confused you can figure I'm not talking up the Clintons?


It wasn't to you. It was to Haner.

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O the innocent little lamb. O of course you will leave up to voters to decide.

So so disingenuous, for all the world like you haven't been pulling every goddam dirty trick you can out of Rove's handbook.

Yeah, Hillary, I believe you. And I'm Marie, the Queen of Romania.

No, you're not. You're Betty Nuggs.

Damn, that's the last time I vote for Wright.

It's funny.

O'Reilly, to his credit, (at least in this clip) did not directly attack Obama.

HILLARY tried to link it back to Obama, O'Reilly just wanted Hillary's views on Wright (which, coincidentally, are the same as Obama's)!

Go figure. Dead issue.

oh brother... now how do you conclude THAT??!!

She did no such thing. But if she did, its fair game.

She said, he wouldn't be HER pastor. Would he be YOURS? yeah, probably so....

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Of course he wouldn't be Hillary's pastor, Hillary lives in Indiana and North Carolina, Rev Wright lives in Chicago, the commute is a killer.

Note: Hillary will be moving again next Wednesday, to get updates on which state Hillary really calls home check back here a week from today.

"Well, I'm going to leave it up to voters to decide."

This seems like an effort to link Wright and Obama and make their association an electoral issue. Otherwise, what would the voters have to do with it?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that SCMadden concluded that by employing his/her reading comprehension skills. Maybe you should give it a try. I know you can do it. Come on everyone, give RaeK a little encouragement.

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You don't mean to suggest that public liar and sexual predator, Bill O'Lielly actually behaved better than the Feminist Heroine?


Why am I not surprised?

What do you have against sexual predators?

You were mere seconds ahead of me there....Blast!

Can the egos of Rev Bill O. and Rev Wright fit in the same room?


Wright, Hagee, Bill O and Rush are why I hate bad religion and bad politics.

HRC wants to join the club. Obama wants to smash it.

Now people, I think you're being too hard on 'ol Hillary here. You act like she's the spawn of Satan, which she's not...

...as far as I know.

I think you're discounting the possibility that she is actually Satan, and not merely the spawn.

Touche.

"I am going to sue your arse off for such a smear of my reputation" Satan

Well, I do not get cable, so I will not see the interview. This is hardly the first time that I am not the least bit sorry to miss a television program.

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O me either.


You know it strikes me that that picture is unfair - we can't see your knees.

I thought that was the whole point of a kilt.

;)

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I can't stand more than about a nanosecond of his bullshit, and the combination of the two of them would send me directly over the edge - I'd have no TV left because my shoe would be lodged in the screen.

Tena, inquiring minds want to know if Greg wears the same thing under his kilt that all good Scotsmen do wink wink... ;)

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O I see we have the same kind of inquiring mind.


I'm not sure there should be two of us egging each other on. LOL!!!

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But it's such fun and it's a relief from having to read all of the imbicilic posts from the brain-dead here. And I bet Greg doesn't mind, do you Greg? ;)

Dear Carol,

You know I do not mine. Your posts and Tena's are like cool drinks of water in the desert of inanity around here.

Er, "do not mind..." not "do not mine."

Jump!

Curb your enthusiasm, Marjorie.

I see the effects of the cognotive dissonance cocktail have kicked in for you.

As Dryden wrote in 1691 in a letter to Walsh, 'to be truly a friend, a man must seeme to exercise a little malice.' We should criticise what we revere; awed silence does damage no vigorous criticism could match. Let Wright say what he said, and rather than complaining that he said at all, refute his comments in substance. That is the greater compliment to America.

Little different in 1691 when you did not have the MSM hit job hacks.

Rev. Calvin Butts of Harlem's Abyssinian Church, whose endorsement Clinton sought and happily received, invited Fidel Castro to speak at his church. Should providing a platform for an anti-American dictator count for less than what Wright has said?

Is Hillary black? No? Sorry, not newsworthy.

As some of you will have gathered, I'm not an unalloyed Hillary fan.

But even I find O'Reilly's tone to her offensively disrespectful.

Dirk

That is just O'Reilly being O'Reilly. He always behaves that way. Hillary knew that and still opted to go on there. I can not fret about O'Reilly showing disrespect toward Hillary, after she choose to knowingly walk into the Lion's den.

This is not the first time that Hillary has done something like that. In Pennsylvania she opted to glue her lips to the arse of the Puppet Master of "the vast right wing conspiracy".

Hey! She brought up Wright back then too!!!

I am so bored with this story. If they manage to destroy Obama with crap someone else believes I will lose all faith in the USA. I might even go so far as to say God Damn America.

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Let's make it a Greek Chorus of God Damn America if that happens.

Because if we keep up this Dynasty crap, this democratic republic is finished.

Political dynasties are anathema to democracy. We aren't supposed to have these fucking idiots running around imagining they are somehow more entitled to be in charge than anyone else.

And then they drag their families in and it all gets personal and just to psychodrama for words - just like the bloody goddamn crowned heads of Europe. You think we didn't just get the idiot king electing another member of a dynasty - just like they used to get in Europe = all inbred and fucked up?

I concur, potentially a quarter century of two families in the executive is the biggest threat to democracy there is. A story that has not even been glanced at by the media.

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I think O'Lielly is really a shit demon in human disguise. I imagine he was disrespectful and I don't like it either, but see, he makes my skin crawl. I wouldn't be in the same room with him.


She would have walked out on Wright? And she can sit that close to O'Lielly? It's hard for me to feel too sorry for her.

Best line here

She would walk out on Wright, but sits there with O'Reilly.

Clinton is moving so far to the right, there's no room in asshole land. And half the dems want Clinton as a nominee.

I've finally made up mind on this. If she get's the nomination, I can't vote for her.


hmm... so let me this strait, Hillary can't even attack Wright when the rest of the country including obama is going crazy over his comments.. have your hatred of hillary gone so over the board that you even can;t take her criticism of wright with a strait face. this is absurd!

Dude, did you LISTEN to the clip?

The transcript does not do it service.

O'Reilly: "Can you believe this Rev. Wright guy? Can you believe this guy? What do you think."

Clinton: "Well, I'm going to leave it up to voters to decide."

O'Reilly: "But what do you think as an American, you're an American."

Clinton: "Well, what I said when I was asked directly is that I would not have stayed in the church."

O'Reilly: "No, no, no. But, you're an American citizen, I'm an American citizen, He's an American citizen, Rev. Wright. What do you think when you hear a fellow American citizen say that kind of stuff about America."

Clinton: "Well, I take offense. I think it's offensive and outrageous. I'm going to express my opinion, others can express theirs. It is part of just, you know, an, uh, atmosphere we're in today."

The criticism is obviously NOT that Clinton thinks Wright is
"offensive and outrageous". Duh, Obama said that yesterday.

No, the outrage comes in when Clinton takes the first chance she can to hit Obama on the head with an issue, when O'Reilly didn't even ask about Obama.

That's the most objective question O'Reilly has asked in years. Obviously, he and his Fox overlords love to continue their discussion of Obama, so that their mindless viewers will continue to associate him and his objectionable comments with Obama. But O'Reilly's question itself was fair -- in fact, it's the same one Obama implicitly answered yesterday when he completely, unambiguously, and in very strong terms condemned Wright's nonsense. Leave it to the Republican in faux-Democratic clothing to try - TWICE! - to answer the question by tying Wright directly to Obama.

She's a joke.

WTF?? i saw the whole interview and she was showing extreme caution not to get into this whole debate.. damn she even said. "people were not talking about these issues in the campaign trail.." did u even see the whole interview?? or are you just so blinded by hatred that you can't even think straight anymore?

HRC: "Its part of an atmopshere we are in today."

Said the Candidate whos most effective tactic is flinging non-issue crap like a zoo gorilla on crack. HRC MUST go negative because she cant win when people can compare issues, and its getting old. Hillary you really DONT want to let the voters judge, you really dont want to see and hear the truth. Yes you started 10 feet from the finish line and have lost, please move on.

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Word.


As I said - butter wouldn't melt in her mouth.

She smiles just like Rove when she's stabbing you in the back.

Sure, its a dead story.

Only 10,000 articles a day on it in google, instead of 20,000.

"Only 10,000 articles a day on it in google, instead of 20,000"

Its a shame those stories don't help your delegate count..

Try putting "guilt by association" or "Joe McCarthy" in the Search box.

I think this will be good for FOX ratings. Take your meds children.

Even I admit that Bill-O question is in the manner of Olbermann and Bill Moyers, ask leading questions with the answer in the question. Can you believe this Rev. Wright guy?

Great question.

Jack Cafferty of Keith Obamaman would never ask that question.

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Look, if O'Lielly wasn't who he is and didn't have that money, he'd already be a registered sex offender.

The only way he skates out of that is that he can afford to skate out of it because our criminal justice system is so broken that money is the only thing that talks there.

Just like Rush -


Excellent interview.

Senator Clinton is the obvious choice if the Dems want to win this time.

Its a no brainer.

"Its a no brainer."

Does anyone else see the humor in this comment?

Ah, the "Tin Man" liveth... why he "gotalife!"

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Luckily Democrats have brains, it is Republicans (like you) who watch Fox News (like you) who don't have brains.

If Clinton somehow eeks out the nomination and loses the general, I'm coming to collect your first-born.

Oh, trolls again (incl. Greg, yep I said it) in full force attracted to any post that says HRC & RW media in the same sentence. I am outta here.

This just appeared on CNN's site. Now Hillary is a factory worker. Check her hands for callouses.

"At a chilly outdoor stop in the blue-collar city last weekend, Sen. Hillary Clinton told the crowd her father, Hugh Rodham, made and sold print drapery in the region and that as a young girl, she worked the factory floor with her mother and brothers. She reminisced about the church supper "molded salads" of her youth.

What happened to my avatar? I finally figured out how to add one, and poof, it's gone, just like that, not even white space where it used to be.

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God, I swear I'm going to vomit. She is the most dishonest and cravenly patronizing politician I have seen in a long time. Between all of the states in which she supposedly has lived and all of the "blue collar" connections her head must be spinning right off of her body. She is truly without morals.

Good thing the Texas primary is over or she would be appealing to the polygamists, talking about her life sharing her husband.....oh, wait, that would be true.

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Oh, Kate, that was a good one. You go, girl!! :)

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O indeed, gotalife, and I just know she'll win all the remaining primary state votes by 110% and allll the SDs will go to her and on their knees they will beg her to be the nominee.

And then they'll put a crown on head, and cape around her shoulders and bouquet in her arms and she can walk down that runway, waving that queen kind of wave, tears running her cheeks - it's gonna be fabulous!!!

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I will say this again because I've read more than one comment from a Hillary supporter after my initial post upthread:

I find it absolutely breathtaking and incredible that so-called Democrats on this site (all Hillary supporters) are actually defending Bill O'Reilly. What has happened to our party? Jesus, I absolutely am stunned. What's next? Defending Rush Limbaugh's call to riot in Denver? Where will you people draw the line? It's really disheartening and it only shows how rabid and ruthless her campaign has become if her supporters are acting this way.

Hey, great idea, maybe Hillary can call in to Rush's show and get some positive time with him. Indiana's an open primary next week, plus many Democrats in NC likely also listen to him. Obama is down and no sense not taking advantage of the situation as he's had too many passes already. In the words of Wright, his chickens are coming home to roost.

Matthew

Limbaugh! Great idea!

Matt, I still haven't figured out what you were implying in a previous post when you commented on:

"Barack Obama putting his half-Black arm around a White supporter."

Sounds like you've got some big racial issues here, if it bothers you to see a bi-racial man having physical contact with a white woman. I like how you capitalize "Black" and "White", just like the Aryan Nation likes to do in its hate propaganda.

A lot of them on this site aren't actually Hillary supporters or Democrats.

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You know what? I truly hope not, but I don't believe that's true. I think they are Hillary supporters and I'm a bit fearful for the future of our party with people like them in it.

Not as breathtaking as the silliness we have seen the last two days from Obama supporters slamming Wright in much more coarse ways.

Good for Clinton. If supporters can keep this up, what will Obama denounce next? His past? Oh, that's right, he's already lied, misstated, and omitted much about it already.

Clinton should be sitting down with anyone she can to get interviews and face time. Cheap advertising and great opportunity to show he positives while Obama is stuck sputtering about his character issues and would prefer to be out of sight.

Matthew

yep, pretty much backs up what we said earlier about Clinton and her supporters.

No shame.

Matthew, just endorse McCain already, your act is wearing thin.

Matt,

I appreciate you no longer spamming us.

And, boy am I glad you share Hillary's principled strategy of sucking up to absolutely anyone who can help your candidacy, including Scaife, O'Reilly and heck, even John McCain, who we all know is your secret lover....tell the truth, you still angry about the "misleading" 100 years in Iraq ad?

Yup.

Matt, I still haven't figured out what you were implying in a previous post when you commented on:

"Barack Obama putting his half-Black arm around a White supporter."

Sounds like you've got some big racial issues here, if it bothers you to see a bi-racial man having physical contact with a white woman. I like how you capitalize "Black" and "White", just like the Aryan Nation likes to do in its hate propaganda.

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Hey now, don't ruin his day. This is the anniversary of Hilter's suicide, to people like him it is a solemn occasion, not to be ruined by pithy remarks from the likes of you!

gotalife? Are you down there?

Honey come upstairs right away! Mommy has some PB&J sammiches with the crust cut off for you and Marginal....

She's going to "leave it up to voters to decide?" Did I miss something? Is Wright running for office?

Yes, let the voters decide and let their votes count.

Democracy.

But Wright is not running for office!

I cannot wait until this is over.

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Unless the voters don't support your candidate, in which case you would prefer for the superdelegates to override their decision.

I'll remember you said that!

"Cheap advertising and great opportunity to show [t]he positives..."

She has repeatedly declined THAT opportunity.

How did they forget to mention Louis Farrakhan? And Willie Horton?

Michelle Obama is on CNN 360 tonight,
Micheal Moore is on Larry King.
Barack Obama is on Meet the Press on Sunday.

I can't wait to see Michael on Larry King. He will a very good perspective...

Go Obama 08

Hillary hit Rev. Wright? But didn't she say exactly what Obama said? She said, "I take offense. I think it's offensive and outrageous." Isn't that what Obama just spent 45 minutes saying the other day? Are we now going to try to shift the entire blame for Rev. Wright onto Hillary? Isn't she just agreeing with Obama, or did I not hear Obama correctly?

your questions have left me with much to ponder.

The problem I have with it is that she just criticized McCain for not doing enough to pull the Wright ad.

No, you are correct.

But that's the point, Otto. She could have said that this wasn't an important issue, that both she and Obama find his comments offensive.

Obama has defended Hillary from similar attacks, or refused to be baited.


"Well, why would she do that?" you'll ask.

because, on the odd chance she somehow sneaks her way to become the nominee, she'll need Obama voters to support her.

And saying stuff like "I wouldn't be a part of that church" ain't gonna cut it.


Obama has defended Hillary? Link to that please. My ass, SC. Neither one of them defends the other.

He did it during a debate defending her on the Bosnia sniper thing, she immediately stabbed him in the back. It may not have been wholehearted, but he didn't have to do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdb7gk71tGM

Timmah will keep the story going.

Something else occurred to me. When Wright said that Obama was just speaking like a politician because he has to do what politicians do to get elected, maybe he wasn't trying to hurt Obama. Maybe he was reassuring blacks that Obama really does believe what Wright believes, but just dare not say so.

hmmmm.

or maybe Wright is acting like a compete idiot so it's easier for Obama to denounce him.

They pray and bash whitey in private now.

Obama did this before he announced running.

you've jumped the shark, my friend.

Obama hates his mother? Really?

And you know this because you were there praying and bashing whitey too?

Is it okay if I pray and bash you in public?

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Is it okay if I skip the prayer and just go straight to bashing?

I got dibs on head and shoulder area... You want the gonads?

See why some people thing some Clinton supporters are racists?

Really fought off the urge to say "Those niggahs", didn't you, Goatlife?

thing = think

Hillary Murdoch Mellon-Scaife McCain Lieberman Clinton.

O'Reilly: "Can you believe this Rev. Wright guy? Can you believe this guy?"

Clinton: "Well, I'm going to leave it up to voters to decide."

Let the voters decide? I wasn't aware the Rev. Wright was running for office.

Its fun to read the comments about how the delegate count is the only criterion for picking the nominee. Its an alternate universe. Imagine a scenario where Obama faces three or fours weeks of criticism for his assocation with Wrigtht -- and then Ayers -- and then Rezko (at about verdict time). Assume, for one moment, that the polls show Obama 20 points behind both McCain and HRC. Is there any possibility that Obama will be the nominee?

The answer is yes -- in the alternate universe where winning the WH matters less than honoring the thinly-attended caucuses in red states won by BO five or six months ago.

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Nice try, Richmond. It's a ridiculous argument, but nice try. The delegate count is the only thing that matters in the Democratic primary - you are living in the alternate universe of thinking that your girl has any chance in hell.

Hmmm I disagree. I do not think it is likely that Clinton will win (yet). But if the current narrative does not change in the MSM then it will get reflected in the polls. If he is down by a lot in the polls, the supers may hand it to Clinton.

If things stay around the same as they are now, then Obama gets it. And Hilldog will continue to poison the well in hopes for 2012.

Really?? Where do you get that from? If we are going by delegate count, Obama is screwed. He can't get enough to win. Do you have any precedent we can go off of? When have we EVER awarded a nomination based off "being ahead"? If we never have, this would unprecedented, wouldn't it?

Doh!

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Of course Obama can get enough delegates to win. Of the 699 remaining, he needs only 292. Clinton needs 427. If Barack is "screwed," then what is Hillary? Mongolian cluster-fucked?

This is the real world, not some sci-fi book you're writing.

And in this world, Presidential Candidates are based on these things called "votes." They sometime differ from polls, so that's why this universe does not pick Presidents from polls but from votes.

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You sir are a liar. A LIAR.

Those Texas caucuses were not "thinly attended" and you know it.

In Oak Cliff, which is a part of Dallas, 4000 people caucused for Obama. In my precinct, 1200 people showed up - 2/3s were there for Obama.

You just keep whining because Obama won Texas.

The caucuses were popular votes. I'm ever so not sorry your candidate wasn't as popular. Or as able to motivate her people.

Or whatever the fuck - but you are LYING.

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My Texas caucus was crowded like you wouldn't believe. We had to move it out to the parking lot, there wasn't enough room inside.

Almost all of us were for Obama.

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I'd rather imagine a world where it rains chocolate bunnys and everyone commutes to work on their very own flying carpet.

Holy crap! You did it! And I didn't think it was possible. You've just invented a new way for Hillary spin the Primaries!

It's the "Entire Primary Process Doesn't Count" Theory!

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Have you ever watched a convention?

They count delegates. The candidate with the most wins.

Oh, this is fun. Can I play?

Suppose it turns out that Hillary Clinton is actually an alien from the Planet Zoctor and when people find out Obama jumps ahead in the polls 90-10. (That 10% still supporting her...you know who you are.)

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Excellent!!!

Or what if it is discovered that she dug up the corpse of Vince Foster and keeps it in her attic?

Everyone knows she has some skeletons in her closet... lots and lots of skeletons.

There were caucuses in 2007?

I'm outraged that neither of them wore a flag pin!

The winner doesn't need to debate the loser.
Hillary Clinton can't and won't win.
On to defeating McCain!

John Kerry ordering MSNBC and "you guys" to "move on" past Rev. Wright. Pretty surly performance.

He also says that HRC's gas tax plan would give each taxpayer "30 cents."

Sad.

Are you defending the gas tax holiday?

Please say yes, please, oh please....

I drive. Yes, drop the tax and also drop the tax breaks for the oil and gas industries and add a windfall tax to recoup the lost pump tax for road maintenance and construction. While it goes against a free market, capitalist nation, I do think that there needs to be some control exercised upon oil speculators who are driving up costs. Unfortunately no good, simple solutions but if we can use the opportunity to get rid of a tax, lets do it.

Matthew

Matt, I still haven't figured out what you were implying in a previous post when you commented on:

"Barack Obama putting his half-Black arm around a White supporter."

Sounds like you've got some big racial issues here, if it bothers you to see a bi-racial man having physical contact with a white woman. I like how you capitalize "Black" and "White", just like the Aryan Nation likes to do in its hate propaganda.

You forgot the part about everyone getting a pony as well.

Yeah, you got it!

Let's shortchange the highway trust funds so that more bridges will collapse and kill people.
After all, those dead people were going to die sometime anyway.

Sad is w not releasing the strategic oil reserve to lower the price of oil big time and he keeps buying it.

Blame w and the gop.

Clinton and the Dems are trying but the gop are blocking because they want to drill.

He also says that HRC's gas tax plan would give each taxpayer "30 cents."

You're right, because we actually wouldn't get any money back, we would end up paying more for gas when the oil companies pass on the taxes *they* would have to pay onto the consumers. Read what every leading economist is saying about this so-called gas tax plan.

It is up to the voter's to decide if Obama's 20 year association with this man matters. And many will have a chance to answer that on Tuesday!

Yup.

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You know what's wrong with that? Nobody is looking at the 20 years they have known each other.

All anybody has looked has been a 30 second sound byte and pieces of two recent speeches.

Now how is it fair to ask anyone to make some kind of assessment about what kind of job someone would do as president based on that paltry an amount of information?

That was a completely disingenuous stream of crap that she said there, that was.

Can you quote the part of the transcript where O'Reilly asked if "Obama's 20 year association with [Reverend Wright] matters"?

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That should have been - 4000 people showed up in one precinct.

Clyburn just said the candidate with the most delegates may not be the nominee.

Uh Oh.

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Link?

Just said it on CNN.

Yeah, it is big.

gotalife -

serious question. What was the context?

Like, "well, it's POSSIBLE Hillary could win the nomination, but she'd lose in the general, I'd make sure of that."

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Was he referring to pledged delegates?

If so, it's hardly news that superdelegates are capable of overriding the will of the voters.

Where?! Is he now backpeddling to give room and support for Clinton to take the nomination? I'm sure he can see the defeat coming if Obama gets the nomination.

BTW, I heard in one of the interviews last night that there was other controversies looming for Obama in the next few weeks. Hear any details yet?

Matthew

Matt, I still haven't figured out what you were implying in a previous post when you commented on:

"Barack Obama putting his half-Black arm around a White supporter."

Sounds like you've got some big racial issues here, if it bothers you to see a bi-racial man having physical contact with a white woman. I like how you capitalize "Black" and "White", just like the Aryan Nation likes to do in its hate propaganda.

Read the post in its entirety. I don't think from you previous posts that you are too ignorant to understand it. So, I presume you are posting this everywhere for some perceived insult. Go for it as you only prove to all who read that you are simply a mindless, derogatory, and insult-filled supporter of the Dear Leader.

Matthew

Matt, I still haven't figured out what you were implying in a previous post when you commented on:

"Barack Obama putting his half-Black arm around a White supporter."

Sounds like you've got some big racial issues here, if it bothers you to see a bi-racial man having physical contact with a white woman. I like how you capitalize "Black" and "White", just like the Aryan Nation likes to do in its hate propaganda.

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This from a racist, funny!

There's no way Clinton can win without black support.

That's why all you closet McCain supporters are supporting Hillary...

it's the only way Republicans win the White House.

I find it hard to believe that this man is endorsing Hillary:

""There are African Americans who have reached the decision that the Clintons know that she can't win this," he told Reuters.

"But they're hell-bound to make it impossible for Obama to win."

Speaking with the New York Times, Clyburn said such actions could lead to a longtime division between the former president and his once most reliable constituency.

"When he was going through his impeachment problems, it was the black community that bellied up to the bar," Clyburn said. "I think black folks feel strongly that this is a strange way for President Clinton to show his appreciation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Clyburn

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You mean...he's not Perfect after all?


what a nasty piece of work you are, weaver. really nasty.

I was surprised he said it .

It was just on CNN interview with Wolf.

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Shorter Matthew Weaver:

"Barack Obama is BLACK!!! OOOGA BOOOGA!!!!"

I'm glad to see you still haven't eaten those sweet babies, Matthew.

I have heard rumors but will wait until they come out.

That's not possible. Delegates elect the nominee. The nominee will be the person with the most delegates.

The Stupid, It Burns!

Link?

Congressman Clyburn is so in the tank for Obama, the MSM should stop calling him uncommitted.

for once, I agree.

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I do too.

I said it yesterday, Hillary could go classy and when this type of question came up say something like "I really don't want to talk about that, there are serious issues the American people want to talk about. Senator Obama has said all that needs saying." but of course, she didn't. What was I thinking? Has she EVER taken the classy road?

Tirades aside, will the Democratic Party nominate Sen. Obama in Denver if the polls uniformly show him to be trailing McCain (and HRC) by 20 points?

Please answer the question.

Of course not. Will the Democratic Party nominate Clinton if the polls stay around the same or a 5 point shift?

Please answer the question.

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I have no idea. Will the Democratic Party nominate Sen. Clinton if she grows a tail?

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Tirades aside, if the polls show McCain ahead by 20 points the last week of the campaign, shouldn't we just cancel the election?

Please answer the question.

No, unless they want to lose.

how can Hillary win without the black vote?

How?

If Clinton gets the nomination, regardless of the manner in which Obama loses, she'll get half the Black vote by the time the election comes around. They likely won't vote for McCain and while many might sit out the election, I think they want a Democratic win and will quickly recall that the Clintons have been big supporters throughout their lives. So, while I do not think Blacks can be ignored any more than any other group should be, I do not think this needs to be a make-or-break consideration at this stage. The goal now is simply to win the nomination.

Matthew

Matt, I still haven't figured out what you were implying in a previous post when you commented on:

"Barack Obama putting his half-Black arm around a White supporter."

Sounds like you've got some big racial issues here, if it bothers you to see a bi-racial man having physical contact with a white woman. I like how you capitalize "Black" and "White", just like the Aryan Nation likes to do in its hate propaganda.