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Hillary Supporter Lanny Davis: Howard Dean Should Resign If He Nixed North Carolina Debate

Hillary backer Lanny Davis, the self-appointed raging id of the Hillary campaign (or one of them, anyway), pushed the envelope pretty hard in a Fox News interview a little while ago, saying that Howard Dean should resign as DNC chair if he had anything to do with killing the North Carolina debate.

Davis said:

If Howard Dean had anything to do with this he should resign as national chairman. He has compromised himself completely.

Asked if he thought Dean did in fact have something to do with nixing the debate, Davis demurred, and pivoted off the question into a denunciation of Obama.

As I've noted here before, the tensions between Dean and Hillary's top fundraisers and surrogates has simmered behind the scenes for weeks now over Dean's inability to get the Florida and Michigan standoffs resolved.

The other day, those tensions boiled over when Hillary's top donors teed off on Dean publicly for his suggestion that super-delegates should begin deciding who to support "starting now."

But no one in the Clinton camp had ever thought to use the "R" word -- "resign" -- until now.

Late Update: Here's the video:


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This is hilarious.

The only person who should "resign" is Hillary.

...And Mark Penn, too.

Lanny Davis is the only person who rivals Penn as the 2008 Election Asshole of the Year.

...And Mark Penn, too.

Lanny Davis is the only person who rivals Penn as the 2008 Election Asshole of the Year.

...And Mark Penn, too.

Lanny Davis is the only person who rivals Penn as the 2008 Election Asshole of the Year.

Sorry, technical problems. Not intending to repeat the obvious.

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There can never be too many Bullwinkles. Never.

Agreed. She is a seriously disturbed, nasty human. Somebody has pictures on Lanny D and Jimmy Carville.

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Go away, Lanny. Far away.

Seriously. I have been disquieted by the number of folks I have seen calling for purges of the DLC types once Obama wins the nomination - we will need those votes in November so it is best not to burn our bridges, I say. That said, I will make an exception to this big-tent position for Davis. If Dean wants to purge him from the party, I would applaud.

Lanny Davis needs to be fired for being a idiot, he has proved on many occasions that he lacks a brain.

I don't mind people supporting hillary with all they fire and heart they can muster. However, I think Lanny Davis goes beyond the norm and into the realm of the delusional more often than any rational person would.

Lanny Davis needs to be fired for being a idiot, he has proved on many occasions that he lacks a brain.
Also love how Clinton supporters go on Fox to bash Obama or the DNC.

If only Hillary had agreed to a reasonable compromise in Michigan and Florida. Her supporters created this mess after all, one would think they'd have the dignity to work for a fair resolution. Sadly, with Hillary it's all or nothing.

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Excuse me - since when do these people get to make those kinds of decisions.

Howard Dean resigns over my dead body.

And Hell Yeah, the only person who should "resign" is Hillary.


They've come apart at the seams at Hillary Central.

They shold be happy he's not a strong chairman - he would have forced their candidate out by now.

Good point.

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The only person who should "resign" is Hillary.

quite rightly.

oh boo-freaking-hoo. Post about those mixed-up, inaccurate, and contradictory exit polls so we can go at each other!

Lanny, STFU.

Everytime your ugly face appears on the tube, I change the channel.

You're on a LOSING campaign.

What happened to your spin 2 days ago that the Gallup Tracking Poll was the definitive indicator of this race?

More Clintonista distractions.

As I said, STFU.

This is what clinging to negativity yields: a big boo-hoo story.

Two words sum up the Clinton Campaign: past it.

No more Obliterators In Chief.

Pax,
M.

I voted for Dean once, in 2004, after he had already dropped out of the race. Given the chance, I would vote for him again in an instant.

I love that man.

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Or for heaven's sake - self-important much, Lanny?

Dean resigns over my dead body.

Hillary however, needs to quit soonest.

This is what clinging to negativity yields: a big boo-hoo story.

Two words sum up the Clinton Campaign: past it.

No more Obliterators In Chief.

Pax,
M.

Lanny, STFU.

Everytime your ugly face appears on the tube, I change the channel.

You're on a LOSING campaign.

What happened to your spin 2 days ago that the Gallup Tracking Poll was the definitive indicator of this race?

More Clintonista distractions.

As I said, STFU.

Yeah, he had to go on Fox to get this out on the airwaves. What a tool.

Poor Lanny. Can't he stand the heat? Methinks he should exit from the kitchen.

What a bastard. Yeah, Dean has lead the Dems to the most successful string of elections in recent history thanks to his 50 state strategy. So let's get rid of him so we can replace him with a screw 40 state strategy from a DLC Clinton puppet!

Idiots.

I wouldn't care if Dean did have something to do with it, a 22nd debate is not necessary, in fact that last 10 or so weren't necessary.

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Dean/Obama have worked out a new money raising model that is bringing in cash by the truckloads, and the traditional big funders are watching their influence over the party diminish by the day.

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Procedural question: As head of the DNC is Dean allowed to endorse a candidate?

I don't know. Being the head, he must be a superdelegate, right?

Oh Lanny... you will be missed after June 3.

Lanny, STFU.

Everytime your ugly face appears on the tube, I change the channel.

You're on a LOSING campaign.

What happened to your spin 2 days ago that the Gallup Tracking Poll was the definitive indicator of this race?

More Clintonista distractions.

As I said, STFU.

I voted for Dean once, in 2004, after he had already dropped out of the race. Given the chance, I would vote for him again in an instant.

I love that man.

Why on earth would Dean have anything to do with this? Wasn't the NC cancellation an issue between the campaigns?

Poor Lanny. Can't he stand the heat? Methinks he should exit from the kitchen.

Can you smell it? That's the scent of DES-PER-A-TION.

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Yeah - Howard Dean resigns over my dead body.

Hillary needs to quit, soonest.

lol @ that clown. (further) angering Dean IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!

LOLOLOLOL!

BEST. POST. YET.

And that is saying something.

Clinton's love using FOX and Rush for their mouthpiece.

I am sorry, she is just a BITCH.

BITCH, huh?

Blatantly, Irritating, Trifling and Childish, Hag!

That about right, huh?

As an Obama supporter, I love to see Clinton's goons to continue to attack Dean, Pelosi, and the rest of the Dem leadership.

It will only make them more determined to turn this in Obama's favor. The party and its leadership gain nothing from four more years of the Clintons. They gain a generation of young voters and independents with Obama. They aren't stupid.

Clinton does nothing for the party.

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Procedural question: As head of the DNC is Dean allowed to endorse a candidate?

Who is advising these people, are they just totally nuts?! OMG, I cannot believe the stupidity.

Nobody.

They don't take advice. They see nothing wrong with how they behave. When their actions bring about unpleasant consequences, they blame others.

We don't need people like this running our country.

The Clinton campaign has jumped the shark.

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Have you noticed how many Clinton "surrogates" are using right-wing water carriers to get their message out? Bill on Rush Limbaugh's show, Hillary getting Mellon Scaife's endorsement, Lanny Davis (and others) on Fox News? It's quite a phenomenon. If that doesn't tell us something about the Clintons, nothing will. At least this primary season has been good for separating the wheat from the chaff. Hillary can join her BFF Joe Lieberman after this thing is all over - his party will enjoy a 100% uptick in membership! ;)

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Have you noticed how many Clinton "surrogates" are using right-wing water carriers to get their message out? Bill on Rush Limbaugh's show, Hillary getting Mellon Scaife's endorsement, Lanny Davis (and others) on Fox News? It's quite a phenomenon. If that doesn't tell us something about the Clintons, nothing will. At least this primary season has been good for separating the wheat from the chaff. Hillary can join her BFF Joe Lieberman after this thing is all over - his party will enjoy a 100% uptick in membership! ;)

Can you smell it? That's the scent of DES-PER-A-TION.

Can you smell it? That's the scent of DES-PER-A-TION.

As an Obama supporter, I love to see Clinton's goons to continue to attack Dean, Pelosi, and the rest of the Dem leadership.

It will only make them more determined to turn this in Obama's favor. The party and its leadership gain nothing from four more years of the Clintons. They gain a generation of young voters and independents with Obama. They aren't stupid.

Clinton does nothing for the party.

As an Obama supporter, I love to see Clinton's goons attack Dean, Pelosi, and the rest of the Dem leadership.

It will only make them more determined to turn this in Obama's favor. The party and its leadership gain nothing from four more years of the Clintons. They gain a generation of young voters and independents with Obama. They aren't stupid.

Clinton does nothing for the party.

Can you smell it? That's the scent of DES-PER-A-TION.

He is correct if did Dean did this. I hope Dean was that not dumb.

Dean should focus on his job like counting the votes in Florida and Michigan.

Suck it, Lanny.

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Lanny has been off his meds for a while.

Anyway, the DLC crowd (which is Hillary's crowd) has had the long knives out for Dean for years.

They hate his 50 state strategy.

Mmmm...yes. They hate that it's working and they're slowly losing their death grip on the Democratic Party.

If fish can swim, or if they can't, hyper-annoying Lanny Davis should STFU.

He is the distilled essence of the grating, litigious, humorless tendentiousness of the Clinton campaign.


I venture that Davis' noxiousness approaches Mark Penn territory.

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Lanny Davis can go to hell.

(I'm the unofficial raging id of the rest of the world that is not part of the Hillary Campaign - to destroy America.)

pissing off dean and potentially the "dean 25" IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!

Dean is doing a great job.

Hillary and her bottomfeeders need to go.

Yes, lets see another complete meltdown.

I hope Dean was not dumb enough to do this but they do need to push him to count the votes in Florida and Michigan.

Count what votes in Florida and Michigan? Oh, the ones in which all the candidates agreed to not campaign and everybody but Hillary took their names off the ballot? I think those votes have already been counted.

I'm sick of these douche bags. I said I'd never vote against Clinton out of petulance. I changed my mind. If this cabal of corporate DLC whores steals our nomination, I will proudly vote for the lesser of two evils - John McCain!

No you won't. I'm an Obama supporter, too. But if you want to talk that way, maybe first you should go to the Republican National Committee and the John McCain for President web sites. See who your new bedfellows will be. There is a Supreme Court to consider, my friend (get used to that line), plus any number of cabinet, regulatory, and diplomatic posts that will be filled by Democrats, even if Hillary does get away with somehow grabbing the party's nomination. Neither side -- Obama nor Clinton supporters -- should get irrational over the outcome. There are indeed bigger issues than which wins the nomination to consider.

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Lanny Davis can go to hell.

(I'm the unofficial raging id of the rest of the world that is not part of the Hillary Campaign - to destroy America.)

I'm sick of these douche bags. I said I'd never vote against Clinton out of petulance. I changed my mind. If this cabal of corporate DLC whores steals our nomination, I will proudly vote for the lesser of two evils - John McCain!

I'm sick of these douche bags. I said I'd never vote against Clinton out of petulance. I changed my mind. If this cabal of corporate DLC whores steals our nomination, I will proudly vote for the lesser of two evils - John McCain!

Why are you on a Dem blog troll?

Dean is doing a great job.

Hillary and her bottomfeeders need to go.

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Lanny Davis can go to hell.

(I'm the unofficial raging id of the rest of the world that is not part of the Hillary Campaign - to destroy America.)

I'm sick of these douche bags. I said I'd never vote against Clinton out of petulance. I changed my mind. If this cabal of corporate DLC whores steals our nomination, I will proudly vote for the lesser of two evils - John McCain!

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Hillary backer Lanny Davis, [...] in a Fox News interview

Do we really need more than this? This is the the guy who spent all of 2006 pimping Lieberman as a great Democrat, when he wasn't making excuses for George W Bush. Why is this weaselly hump allowed to speak for any Democratic campaign?

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Finally - have comments been down for anyone else?

I could see that number go up, and every time I opened comments all there was was SC Madden's first comment and I couldn't post.

Ok back to business - can I just say: fuck right off, Lanny.

Howard Dean resigns over my dead body.

It's Hillary who needs to quit.

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Yes, ma'am - it just hangs when I click send. Fine time for the comments to f*ck up.

Idiotic's comment was dead on - he's going to piss off the Dean 25 and then Clinton will really be in trouble. I think they're going to set a record in pissing off the most voter groups in history - I think their voter base is down to white women over the age of 72.5 right now.

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I think you're right.

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He has the name of a kindergartener and he acts like one, too. Neener, neener, neener. Where are the grown-ups?

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Lanny why would the presumptive nominee want to debate anyone other than the candidate of the other party? You see, we need our candidate to begin his campaign against McCombover. Please, butt the fuck out and go put on your blue dress, I think I hear Bill calling.

CNN has some exit poll demographics ...

White men -- 55% for Clinton.

Over 65 -- 61% for Clinton.

African-Americans -- 92% for Obama.

Wow, President Clinton was right as usual.

Looks like the only ones lying are the Obamas.

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I hope you know what you're talking about. At least that you think you know what you're talking about.

Wow, nice non sequitor.

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Lanny Davis is the Skip Bayless of political commentary.

And Tim Russert is the Joe Morgan of analysts.

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And Bill Clinton is the Little League Dad of presidential surrogates.

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After watching Obama's last debate performance, I understand why Obama AND Dean would want to keep Obama out of any future debates.

Future debates without a teleprompter, that is.

They don't want another complete meltdown.

I'd settle for a debate not orchestrated and run by complete children.

It is unfortunate Primary Day obscures Oblitergate. If the Obliteration of Iran is what passes for Democratic foreign policy, the party is free to whither, and quickly. I will write in my cat.

Pax,
M.

What a bastard. Yeah, Dean has lead the Dems to the most successful string of elections in recent history thanks to his 50 state strategy. So let's get rid of him so we can replace him with a screw 40 state strategy from a DLC Clinton puppet!

Idiots.

I wouldn't care if Dean did have something to do with it, a 22nd debate is not necessary, in fact that last 10 or so weren't necessary.

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Just to be quite rightly about it - if Howard Dean resigns, so do I.

No more Democrat.

Why are you on a Dem blog troll?

I see the trolls are back spewing they would vote for mcwar.

Sore lose much?

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I've really enjoyed reading the comments. Particularly the multiple versions of each one. Problems with the software, TPM?

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Hey, at least you got comments; I got zilcho for about a half hour.

:)

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After 21 debates, Clinton supporters whining about the NC debate is some of the stupidest whining yet.

21 debates. Give it a rest.

The situation was resolved already, or did I miss something.

All the candidates (except Kucinich) went along with the penalty for Fla & MI ignoring the DNC rules.

I am getting tired of the dishonesty of the Clinton camp. If they came out with a little truth-and just admitted that they want to change it now because SHE needs those votes we could have a respectful debate.

But acting like some kind of travesty occurred AFTER the fact is typical of a candidate who "mis-remembered" being shot at in Bosnia.

I think the Clintons have simply worn out their welcome on the political front of the US.

How else can one explain they way the "Wright" affair and the "bitter" comments have seemingly bounced off Obama.

The people can sense this is very close to the end!

Yea!!!
Go Obama!!

If Howard Dean is trying to protect the party, rather than trying to help Hillary win the nomination, he should resign (quite rightly.) He should also resign if he does not denounce black voters, while simultaneously changing the rules mid-game to help Hillary win (quite rightly.)

Indeed -- quite rightly -- this election is not about the voters who make up the Democratic party, it is about fulfilling Hillary Clinton's hopes and desires. The rest of us don't really matter (quite rightly.)

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Kenny Loggins, quite rightly, points out the inanity that is Lanny Davis, quite rightly.

I'd have to say, quite rightly, that Kenny Loggins has done an excellent job.

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I quite rightly agree.

And it's all because your mama don't dance and your daddy don't rock 'n roll (quite rightly).

Yeah! 'Cuz, really it's all about Hillary?

Right? Isn't it?

Combination of TPM comment board problems and expecially annoying item featuring Lanny Davis -- the sort of item that makes one want to pound the keyboard, and force one's rage through the intertubes -- all equals EXCELLENT NEWS for those who, like myself, enjoy reading many iterations of observations like "STFU."

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You owe me a new keyboard for that comment.

That happened to me as well. Too many shots of Crown Royal for the web server admins, is my guess!

FLASH: NON-SHOCK POLL: EXITS: Lanny Davis wildly unpopular with everyone!

I take my direction in all matters moral, political, and legal from Lanny Davis. He is a great truth-teller, always aiming for the Higher Truth above mere legalistic self or client-serving parsing. I am so glad that someone with such integrity will be so close to our next President to guide her through the ethical jungles.

I sleep better at night just knowing that Lanny is working in my and our interests. Thank you Lanny for speaking up for all of us.

> 1 in 10 voters switched from GOP to vote in Dem primary
> Two-thirds of voters blame Clinton for negative campaign
> First time voters overwhelmingly going for Obama
> Union members going for Clinton, 58-42
> Under 50K income voters going for Clinton, 55-45
> Older voters going heavily for Clinton, 61-38
> 3 in 10 voters are 65 and older
> 4 in 10 voters own a gun
> Clinton wins church-goers 59 to Obama's 41
> Urban voters and high income voters going heavily for Obama
> More women than men have voted
> White males going for Clinton, 55-45
> Near-total black vote for Obama

Clinton wins PA.

Of all the trolls, you are my favorite. I kinda want to hug you. Maybe its the booze talking, but I think you could be my new irrational friend.

Well, if you are an Obama supporter, it is his kool aid not the booze.

Crown good.

Obama kool aid very bad.

I mixed the kool-aid with crown royal. Wait isnt that Canadian? Hillary is unamerican!

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And still drops out because it doesn't matter.

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READ THIS BOYS and GIRLS:

Gravy train the expected gravy train that the inevitable presidency of Hillary is not happening so now some are going down bringing others down. I have watched Davis and he has gone overboard.

Donna Brazille has said there are those who are not thinking about the party in any way and want Clinton to go to the convention with a scorched earth strategy. They are the gravy train seekers.

For Bill, his speaking rates will fall. No more book deal, no more gravy.

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the more temper tantrums the Clinton people throw, the worse it all looks to the SDs, that's for damn sure.

Lanny Davis makes me want to vomit. I can't even stand to listen to his whiney voice, literally I need to change the channel. A lot of HRC surrogates annoy me (Terry McAullif, Kiki whatserface) but that is usually because they spout such nonsense. I get it with them though.

Lanny...he just can't accept that you can't go back.

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READ THIS BOYS and GIRLS:

Gravy train the expected gravy train that the inevitable presidency of Hillary is not happening so now some are going down bringing others down. I have watched Davis and he has gone overboard.

Donna Brazille has said there are those who are not thinking about the party in any way and want Clinton to go to the convention with a scorched earth strategy. They are the gravy train seekers.

For Bill, his speaking rates will fall. No more book deal, no more gravy.

Has anyone else noticed how Hillary and her campaign keep showing up on Fox to do their attacks on Democrats? I've been noticing it for a while and it disgusts me more and more each time.

Lanny Davis-Clinton, because I'm sure he's been adopted by now, is the biggest whiner of the Clinton Clan to come along since Chandler Bing's girlfriend Janice on Friends.

What I really can't stomach though is the Clinton Clan love fest with Fox News. I'm sure Roger Ailes is just loving it. He probably thinks it's better than having The Carter Family on The Grand Ole Opry.

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Lanny Davis should resign. Now.

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I agree, but to do that he would have to actually have a job.

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Comments are disappearing -

If Clinton is lying about her campaign finances, then she's breaking the law and is in big ass trouble.

there are laws and they require that campaigns file their financial statements and none of this is secret. So pretend away that she is playing like she's broke when she really isn't - either she's filing legal financial statements, or she's breaking the law.

d'oh.

I have another point which is a borderline process issue but it is relevant. What kind of leadership will the two candidates provide? While I give some kudos to Hillary because she has made a real effort in the senate to build consensus during her tenure in the senate, she is still a divisive figure. Conversely, Obama has a long track record of being a uniter.

Anyone who would like some first hand information regarding this issue Google Obama and Harvard Law Review. What you will find is the “conservatives” at Harvard giving him very good marks when they supported him for President of the Law Review AND afterward when his term concluded.

The reason this issue strikes me right now is that is has been well known for some time that the Clintons have been engaged in a behind the scenes power struggle within the Party since 2004. The point is, is if Hillary were less divisive she may well have discussed her campaign with Howard Dean in the run up to 2007. There is no doubt that had that happened she could have gleaned some very valuable information about using the internet. It is general knowledge that Dean revolutionized fund raising with his insurgent campaign in 2004.

I am certain that one of the historical sketches of this election will highlight the fact that Hillary missed the internet wave until it was too late. She has run out of funds, in fact there are new stories circulating about her burning several vendors, come to think of it why isn’t THIS is a story? At the same time Obama has bucket loads of money.

“Executive leadership.” Anyone care to express who IS ready already on day one?

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I been sayin this too -

They say you can tell a lot by someone's campaign and his is one of the best I've ever seen. Hers is in shambles. Total shambles - they are all reduced to screaming caricatures and I so want them to shut up and go away.

Obama has an incredibly well-run campaign, and about $51million right now.

Even Clinton's surrogates sound entitled.

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Lanny Davis is a DLC goat-blowing assclown.

Nothing more needs be said.

Poor Goat: where is PETA when they are needed!!!

HILLARY STRANGELOVE CLINTON HAS LEARNED TO STOP WORRYING AND LOVE THE BOMB!!!

DLC, Harold Ford is a snake, he says he can't chose any sides beside of his position, he's dead in the tank for Hillary.

I hate him. He's jealous that Obama might win the nomination and he lost Tennesse.

Idiot Joe Scarborough was telling Harold that he won blue-collar voters in Tennesse. Bullshit. They voted against Harold.

Yeah, that exchange was maddening. Joe was driving a point with an OBVIOUS answer and all Ford could muster was, "yeah, that's a great question..."

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I have a better idea. How about Hillary, Bill, Lanny and the rest of that crowd just jump off the Tallahachie Bridge?

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Smell the fear in the air? Lanny, and all the big money-players are freaking because Obama's a wildcard. He's NOT supposed to be here. Nobody is supposed to pass through the gates without needing their money - Republican or Democrat - but Obama is doing it.

I predict McCain will suddenly find the cash he's been missing when Clinton is gone. Where else is the big money supposed to go? Watch and see what happens.

I must be channeling some young chick or something because I fall into the Hillary Clinton white-woman demographics. What is it they see in her? Are they willing to overlook all her negatives just for the historic woman in the White House? I have to stop myself from thinking that they're stupid cows. Just as I refuse to believe that I'm a kool-aid drinking sheep.

These talking heads fill air time with talk of who's overspent and who's most qualified and who speaks most to the masses and classes when it all boils down to race and gender, race and gender and race and gender. With a little ageism thrown in for good measure.

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Fuck that guy.

Dean Forever!

Oh come on Lanny! Could your devotion to Clinton be her total commitment to Israel and AIPAC? Give it a break... it's time to put America first.

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One of the great benefits of an Obama win will be the hopefully permanent eclipse of such fools as the utterly compromised Lanny Davis, James Carville, Terry McAuliffe, Mark Penn and the whole Clinton DLC wing of the party.

And good riddance, I say. Not a moment too soon.

I don't blame Obama for not agreeing to show up to another debate. The news media should be ashamed of itself for the circus the last one was. And Obama might have killed the democratic debate, but Clinton is killing the democratic party. What does she think, that it's not fractured enough already? If she goes to the convention with a lot of support, the democratic party may be destroyed. Especially if she goes after its leadership by asking Chairman Dean to resign. I mean, seriously, cut the guy some slack. It's his job to cobble together a loosely based coalition of people with conflicting agendas called collectively "Democrats." And besides, if he hadn't make one misspeak in the 2004 election cycle during a heated rally, he might have gone on to capture the nomination and then the white house. He's a good guy.

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Lanny Davis - the guy who back in January thought a McCain-Clinton ticket was just the thing! What a maroon.

BaddaBING baby! Clinton wins. Eat your heart out Obamaites. Your messiah Obama is a loser today. He can't win Penn outspending Senator Clinton 3-5 to 1. Wow. Too bad so sad.

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Why in the world would we be sad about a Penn. loss? He's going to keep the margin within single digits, which is all he needed to do.

Your girl is still way behind in delegates and votes, plus she's broke. Get used to hearing the words President Obama.

um, is this really news-worthy? does anyone care what Lanny Davis says about anything?

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More Clinton campaign incompetence. The script clearly says blame the media...

I'm proud to see that I can concur with so many in saying again that Lanny Davis is a complete jackass, but Hillary needs to resign...and Mark Penn...and Terry McAuliff. Lanny your an idiot. Go Dr. Dean!

Barhack H Obama spent about 100.00 per vote in Pennsylvania. Dang. What a waste Barhack H Obama, you could have spent that money on the needy of Pennsylvania and gotten alot more return. What a waste.

CNN has on their webpage Senator Clinton Barhack H Obama. EDGED OUT? In any other reality except the Obamamind thats a landslide people. President Hillary Clinton. Wow.

Obama is the clear loser out of this. Getting Dean to help avoid another debate fiasco is priceless. Dean's got such a winning record...

Matthew
http://www.TheProblemWithObama.com

Matthew Weaver,

Yeah, Dr. Dean took SUCH a bath in the 2006 midterm election and all.

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