Does that also count the $5 million she loaned herself? If not, then she's even more in the red.

Mark Penn. The gift that keeps on giving. She should have dumped him, completely.

That line from the Times piece on her, in March, keeps running through my brain. She values loyalty more than competence. It's a shame.

Yeah, but she lets bills linger a lot longer than just a little while, small businesses have been considering taking her to collection agencies to get their money. The campaign won't even return their phone calls:

http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/04/hillarys-unpaid-bills-stack-up-some.html

Well, red is a good color for Hillary.

Where is Idiotic to tell us what we all know?

If Hillary drops out, I will donate money to get her out of debt.

It wouldn't take many of Obama's supporters before she was paid off.

Everybody wins.

REDy on Day One.

Fuck paying Hillary-Joe back!

She gambled with the money she was given just like the people who gave it to her gambled.

I have no intertest in making billionaires whole on a losing investment.

Didn't UC Davis file a suit against the campaign to get paid? Or did they just threaten to?

It's sort of odd to avoid the obvious caveats here. First, the tense is wrong; this is a number for the end of March and the game's changed substantially since then in a number of ways. Hillary back-loaded her spring numbers in April with the Elton John concert; Obama's outspent Hillary massively in April both in the advertising difference that's reported all the time and, likely, the even bigger disparity in operations costs due to Obama opening offices in every remaining state and even Guam and putting on tons of huge events. He's also undoubted raised a lot more than Hill in April, but reporting that Clinton's "In the red" (even though it's probably still true) and Obama's got $51M in the bank (undoubtedly not true for primary bucks right now) based on March reporting is a little silly.

Obama's still raising tons of money and Hillary's basically tapped everyone she can get. That's the story here going forward. Obama will probably end up helping retire Hillary's debt within a month or two anyway.

Obama will probably end up helping retire Hillary's debt within a month or two anyway.

Not until after the election, please. I don't want my donations going to help Hillary-Joe pay off what she shouldn't have spent in the first place.

I donated the money to get him elected and that's what I want to see the money used for first.

Barack Obama's new paradigm in fundraising is consistent with his persona as a transformative figure. It is one part Clinton and one Dean.

"The CEO and the WORKING CLASS & YOUTH"

This a rework of the master/slave paradigm which has traditionally benefited a Republican approach to fundraising and governing. A top-down approach with financial Elite funding and writing legislation while building support through a conservative cultural message to middle America.

With the massive wealth creation potential of corporate America, a faction of the Democratic Party were no longer willing to seed this advantage to the Republicans and formed the DLC. Of-course this created a conflict with the traditional Democratic base as it shifted the party platform on economic and social policies. Hillary comes out of this top-down approach to fundraising and governing.

Barack Obama on the other hand, has found a way to marry the grass-roots approach of Howard Dean, with the use of the internet, to the top-down approach of the Clintons. He could not sustain his high fundraising numbers without appealing and mobilizing both the CEO and the Working Class & Youth. In this paradigm the CEO and the Working Class & Youth identify with their shared interests as opposed to their position on a divisive political landscape. Obama has acknowledged to the Working Class & Youth that with their contributions they have a voice in his White House. And the CEO has access to a new market.

I agree with those who say that the financial realities will likely be a big factor in the minds of the sincerely undecided supers. I do not pretend to know any of these people personally, but I do not know anyone who is indifferent to the realities of cash on hand.

That said, I am not convinced by the line which holds that financial woes will soon drive Sen Clinton to concede. She has been broke for two months now. If she has not yet conceded on account of lack of funds, I cannot see why we should suddenly expect her to do so now or in a week from now or even in a month from now.

I find it hard to believe that these numbers aren't (or shouldn't be) a game-ender for Hillary. Her campaign continues to hoodwink the media/pundits (Todd: "numbers are irrelevant") but the reality is, unless there's been a huge groundswell of small online donors (which we'd have heard about and would really need to see actual evidence not just claims about), she's toast. It may take a few days to sink in, but she cannot continue a viable national campaign. Don't TV stations require cash up front for ads?

The vendors who did work for the Clinton campaign will be left holding the bag

Bill Clinton's old campaign still owes -$319,630 !!!

http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/cancomsrs/?_08+P20000642

Sen Hillary Clinton:

The campaign's biggest debt remains to be the $5,000,000 loaned to the campaign by Senator Clinton

The campaign, to date, owes Senator Clinton $10,879.89 in interest on the $5,000,000 loan (at a rate of 1.26%)

The Campaign's second largest debt is to Penn, Schoen & Berland Assoc. LLC
Amount: $4,577,820.61

Harold Ickes firm, Catalist, LLC, is owed $240,000. The firm provided no billable services nor did it receive payments during the month of March 08.

Top to-date Press Reimbursement comes from CBS News for a total of $112,016.27 on behalf of Fernando Suarez. Fox News' Aaron Burns is second with $107,173.41 and ABC's Eloise Harper is third with $98,948.05

Total Salaries paid: $1,589,226

Patricia Solis Doyle got paid $11,687 in March 08

Total Employee Benefits paid: $489,980.64
(Paid to Aetna Healthcare, and CareFirst BlueCross BlueShield)

$138,182 in advertising with Google. $2054 with Microsoft!

Phone Banking: $1,921,124
Mail Expense: $1,588,837
Polling: $1,348,000
Media: $885,434

New York Post subscription: $40.8
New York Times subscription: $25.6

Travel: $5,102,905

Debt too vendors
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M3/C00431569/D_DEBTS_C00431569.html

thanks to lizardbox for the preliminary breakdown